The mother of all superhero movies: Watchmen

[Jerry007]

Info from hollywoodreporter.com:

Zach Snyder has come aboard to develop and direct "Watchmen," the seminal DC Comics limited series created by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, for Warner Bros. Pictures. Alex Tse is writing the script of the long-gestating project, which is being produced by Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin. "Watchmen" has a development history almost as epic as the story the comic tells. The project has seen such studios as Fox, Universal and Paramount come and go and has seduced and vexed such filmmakers as Terry Gilliam, Darren Aronofsky, Paul Greengrass and screenwriter David Hayter. Sources say Snyder has impressed Warners with "300," an adaptation of a Frank Miller graphic novel that he directed and co-wrote. Snyder shot the movie -- a Greek epic about the battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C. -- on soundstages in Montreal using partial sets and greenscreens, similar in technique to Robert Rodriguez's "Sin City."

Here's the synopsis from IMDB:
An adaptation of Alan Moore's landmark comic book series, Watchmen is a story set in an alternative 1985, where the world is ticking closer to the brink of nuclear war, and a plot to eliminate a band of ex-crimefighters is instigated, but why? and by whom? It is up to two of those ex-crimefighters to investigate the plot that seems to go beyond the unthinkable.

[Wzierbovsky]

I still have the 12 issue comic book series from so many years ago. First print too. I wonder how much it'll sell for these days heh.

[Poet]

wonder which actor gets to play Rorschach

[Jerry007]

Info from http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=9090

By Devin Faraci

For the last couple of months I have been hearing rumors coming from the Watchmen camp. Most of them were about casting – a very reliable source told me that some of the biggest names in Hollywood were in talks to star in the film. So when another source told me that Tom Cruise was in talks, I knew that it was quite likely true.

My source was right. While on the phone with Watchmen director-to-be Zack Snyder yesterday, talking about the pending release of 300, I asked him point blank about Cruise, and he confirmed that he and Tom had been talking about it. A lot. But that now it looked like Cruise would not be appearing in the film.

“He was interested,” Snyder confirmed to me. “I did talk to him about it for a while.” And would the role he wanted be Ozymandias? “That would be the role,” Snyder said.

I can feel the shudders passing through fandom right now, but I have to say that Cruise would have actually been great casting for Ozymandias. The character in the comic is the baby-faced most famous man in the world, and bringing in Cruise’s monolithic fame would add a layer to what’s onscreen. And Cruise would probably view this as a film in the vein of Magnolia – one that he does to heal his cred. He’s doing that with Robert Redford’s Lions for Lambs, but that’s not a commercial picture – playing this role in a commercial film (and people who have read the graphic novel know why this would be an especially interesting role for someone like Cruise to play, based on what happens with him towards the end) would go a long way towards helping mass audiences like him again. And since Ozymandias is a crucial character but not the lead, it means the whole film doesn’t hinge on Cruise.

It also shows the kind of scope that Snyder and company are looking to bring to Watchmen. 300 is a visually arresting film, but it was done comparatively on the cheap, and without marquee names - people are going to come to theaters on Friday based on the visuals, mostly. Watchmen is looking to be a major, major project.

Snyder talked a bunch more about Watchmen, much of which I’ll save for the full interview, which will run on Monday, but I found this interesting: Snyder’s Watchmen is definitely going to be an R-rated picture, no matter how Warner Bros feels about it. “They’re mad at that,” he said. “They don’t want an R-rated movie, but they’re cool with me. They’re like, ‘OK, if that’s what you think, Snyder. But it’s a bummer.’”

While I don’t agree with everything Snyder is doing with the adaptation – including setting it in 1985 and filming the Tales of the Black Freighter pirate comic book stuff – I do completely agree with him that the time is exactly right for this movie. “I believe audiences are ready for what’s the next stop of the genre. It’s an exhausted genre right now, at least that’s what I believe,” he said.

When Watchmen the comic came out, it was in many ways a critique and deconstruction of the superhero genre in general. When Watchmen the film started percolating, almost 20 years ago, movie audiences hadn’t been immersed in superhero films yet. “That’s the cool part about it, for me anyway. Your movie audience is basically where your comic book audience was when the graphic novel was written – you’re basically in a place where you can make a satirical comment about a superhero and the audience will get it, because they have the frame of reference.”

300 is out next Friday. Watchmen may begin shooting as early as this summer.

[ufo8mydog]

is the comic series timeless? or will it bore me to ****z like V. no offense to fanz. it'll be interesting to see what mr.300 could do to this antique

[Jerry007]

Read all about the Watchmen here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen)!

[Jerry007]

Info from AICN:
The web is a-buzzin' about an image that is 1minute and 52 seconds in the R0rated trailer from 300.

The image seems to be of Rorshach... a major character from WATCHMEN, Zach Snyder's next project. Although - there seems to be some question about whether or not that image is genuine.

Well, I guarantee you it is. At Butt-Numb-A-Thon, Zach let me have a peek at his iPod, where that image was stored at the time, with a good deal more images, that I didn't get a peek at. After BNAT - I asked Zach if I could have a copy of that image for my personal desktop, and Zach being the sweetheart he is, gave in - asking that I not post it, til a later date. Given he's snuck the image onto YouTube, I guess he won't mind if I give y'all a better peek.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/rorshach_badge_sm.jpg

[Pyre]

Secret 'Watchmen' Image Hidden in '300' Trailer!

Sharp-eyed Youtubers have discovered a hidden image inside an extended 300 trailer available on the Web. If you carefully scroll to minute 1.52 in the 5.30 trailer, you'll suddenly see an incongruous image of a man in a headwrap and noir duds standing in what looks like a seedy landscape. The shadowy figure is instantly recognizable to fans as Rorschach, from the DC comic series 'Watchmen.' Rorschach is a series protagonist who wears an inkblot-type mask to conceal his identity while battling crime.

The Watchmen series is set in an alternate 1985 -- get out your checkbook, Robert Zemeckis -- and focuses on the adventures of a few heroes and villains as nuclear war between the U.S. and the Soviets edges closer and closer. 300 director Zack Snyder is set to move forward with a Watchmen adaptation, and hopes to begin production as early as this summer. The presumed success of 300 will probably make a fast-track possible, despite Synder's assertions that the film will be an R-rated story, not aimed at youngsters. Given Snyder's (presumed) sneaky insertion of Rorschach into this trailer, you can probably expect the character to feature prominently in the film adaptation.

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/03/09/secret-watchmen-image-hidden-in-300-trailer/

[Jerry007]

Secret 'Watchmen' Image Hidden in '300' Trailer!



http://www.cinematical.com/2007/03/09/secret-watchmen-image-hidden-in-300-trailer/

I have oredi posted the image above ur post. :D

[Pyre]

I have oredi posted the image above ur post. :D
my bad. forgot and did a blind post. i usually turn off images for forums.

[AJ_Style]

sounds interesting hehe.......................

[lordlad0]

sounds interesting hehe.......................
R u freaking me ??!!! Watchmen is the BEST comics ever!!! The only comics to won a Hugo Award!!! The only Comics to make it to Times Best 100 Novels of the last century.!!!

[Jerry007]

Anyone knows where I can get hold of the graphic novel? Thanks!

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/96/51/6cfed250fca0a156d0f72010._AA240_.L.jpg

[Wzierbovsky]

Easily at Kinokuniya - there should still be paperback compilation copies on sale. It should also be available at Comics Mart (e.g. Cinelesiure, Raffles City branches).

It's a good read; mine's the original single issue version from 1986. I'm withholding buying the compilation for the moment as I think there'll be most likely commerative editions released soon to coincide with the movie.

Anyone knows where I can get hold of the graphic novel? Thanks!

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/96/51/6cfed250fca0a156d0f72010._AA240_.L.jpg

[Jerry007]

Easily at Kinokuniya - there should still be paperback compilation copies on sale. It should also be available at Comics Mart (e.g. Cinelesiure, Raffles City branches).

It's a good read; mine's the original single issue version from 1986. I'm withholding buying the compilation for the moment as I think there'll be most likely commerative editions released soon to coincide with the movie.

Ok thx! I'll try Borders first coz I'm holding some discount vouchers. :D

[Jerry007]

Check out the interview with director Zack Synder on Watchmen here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9982)!

[Jerry007]

Info from comingsoon.net:

Director Zack Snyder also said that he is trying to develop Watchmen with Warner Bros. as an R-rated film. He hopes that with the success of 300 it will be easier to get it going. One of the aspects they are concentrating on is the costumes, because he said "you want people to take the movie seriously." He said, like the "Spider-Man" movie costumes, people have come to expect that kind of detail.

Miller added that he knows who he wants to play The Spirit, but he said, "If I told you, I'd have to kill myself."

[AJ_Style]

haha can't wait............................

[Jerry007]

I bought the graphic novel liao! Can't wait to read. :D

[Jerry007]

Info from AICN:

A longtime source reared his head today and passed on a few tips about faces we’re likely to see in WATCHMEN when Zack Snyder’s film version of the long-in-development graphic novel adaptation finally makes its way to the screen in 2008, and some of it’s surprising, while some of it isn’t at all.

Right now, there are offers out to three people to join the cast. If the studio’s gotten to the point where they’re officially making an offer, you can expect that these people will most likely make it into the film.

So that means we’ll see The Prom King, Patrick Wilson, suit up as Night Owl. I think he’s a great choice for Dan, and all you need to do is look at the work he did in LITTLE CHILDREN as an example of the sort of quiet sadness he’ll bring to the role.

Dr. Manhattan is a tricky part, and there’s something alien and otherworldly about him. Keanu Reeves always seems to me to be on a different wavelength than anyone else on the planet, so when he steps into the part as the big blue superbeing, it might be a nice fit.

And in the biggest “duh” of the year, Jude Law has been offered the role of Adrien Veidt, aka Ozymandias. Perfect choice, and Law’s been saying for years that he is a huge fan of the material. If anyone out there is more right for the role, I don’t know who it is.

Hopefully we’ll have more WATCHMEN news for you as it develops, and my thanks to the always-watchful Boss Hogg for the heads up.

[Jerry007]

Here's an interview with Zack Snyder on casting rumours of his latest movie, Watchmen, taken from http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1561936/20070607/story.jhtml

A few weeks back, we broke the bad news from Gerard Butler on the MTV Movies Blog that his post-"300" schedule was looking too tight to squeeze in an appearance in "The Watchmen." But this week, director Zack Snyder assured us that he'll get his Spartan leading man into the highly anticipated comic book flick somehow.

"Yeah, we'll find a spot for him," Snyder told us on the red carpet at the MTV Movie Awards (see "MTV Movie Awards Get Dirty: Baron Cohen, Ferrell Mash; Rihanna Sizzles; Silverman Says 'Bleep!' " and "Jessica Biel, Jay-Z, More Go Casual-Chic On Anything-Goes Movie Awards Red Carpet"). "They'll let him [off the other sets for a while]; he's not gonna get out that easy."

The red-hot director, intent on using his newfound Hollywood clout to stay true to Alan Moore's refreshingly dark comic classic, also offered a promising non-denial regarding rumors that names like Jude Law, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Wilson had been offered roles. "Um — you know what? I would say 'No,' but then you'd call me later and go like, 'Dude, what are you doing?' " Snyder laughed. "I don't know who's leaking this stuff, but they're good."

Snyder is hard at work finalizing his shooting script, casting A-list stars and defending his vision against the suits who'd make the story of hunted superheroes somewhat cheerier (see "Director Zack Snyder On 'Watchmen' Flick: 'I Don't Wanna Screw It Up' "). As he does so, he told us that he's most looking forward to shooting the opening scene of the flick. "At the beginning of the movie there's a character called the Comedian," Snyder said of the ill-fated former hero whose murder begins the story. "He gets in a fight with a guy that we don't know who it is, and [the Comedian] gets thrown out a window. That's what I'm working on right now, and it's pretty intense."

"[We'll be shooting] up in Canada, starting in September," Snyder said of the film, which Hollywood has been trying to get off the ground for a decade and a half, under directors ranging from Terry Gilliam to Paul Greengrass. "[We'll be shooting] real soon."

Snyder also commented on those pesky rumors about a "300" sequel, saying that he'll leave the door open for whatever Frank Miller has in mind (see " '300' Trivia: Albino Giants, Sequel Chances — And Sienna Miller"). "Hey — if Frank wrote it, and drew something cool, absolutely."

But until then, Snyder is focused on the only comic to make Time's 100 best English-language novels list, a book that many consider the greatest graphic novel ever written. "We're drawing and getting everything together, and I think it's looking pretty cool," he said, promising that we'll soon be watching the "Watchmen" movie. "It's gonna be awesome."

[Jerry007]

Info from comingsoon.net:

Despite rumors to the contrary, Club-Keanu received word from Keanu Reeves' manager, who said that Keanu had been offered a role in Zack Snyder's Watchmen but turned it down.

Watchmen, created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons, was released as a 12-issue comic book in 1986 and is one of the most critically acclaimed series in the genre. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

[Jerry007]

Info from joblo.com:

John Cusack is a great fit for Nite Owl, so why has he not been cast yet? Apparently, there's no problem for Cusack, since he tells MTV in an interview (that you can check out HERE) that he most definitely wants to do it.

“So, the people on the internet want me to do it? I haven’t read the script nor have I ever met Mr. Snyder. We have to talk to talk to Zack’s representatives... [But] I’m in. Talk to Zack".

How often does something like this happen? Not very, especially not when it's actually someone really cool, that a lot of people want for the role. Of course, as fate would have it, there is a complication, since apparently Patrick Wilson is being sought to play the Nite Owl. And he's pretty damn good too. Cusack talks about having a real interest in the comic book, although it's hard to tell how genuine it is, given the fact that he seems to be unaware of the movie's existence, and the fact that... well... he's an actor! Still though, who would you guys prefer? Cusack is Cusack, he's cool by default, but Patrick Wilson's work recently has been pretty darn good.

[TheoDR]

I'd say Bruce Campbell will be the PERFECT actor for The Comedian! He has the chin, the hair, the same crazy eyed stare...everything! And he's also known for being the funnyman. What say you all? :o

[TheoDR]

And to prove my point...

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/tdr_racing/misc/TheComedian.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/tdr_racing/misc/135BruceTheComedian.jpg

It's not the most fitting pic of Bruce Campbell that I found (to Photoshop) that has him looking like The Comedian...but hopefully you get my point. Hehehe... =:p

[Jerry007]

Info from comingsoon.net:

Actor Paddy Considine, who was attached to play masked vigilante Rorschach in Watchmen back when Paul Greengrass was directing, has revealed on his official fan site that Warner Bros. has now gone out to Jackie Earle Haley for the role.

Haley received an Oscar nomination for his role in Little Children. He also recently starred in All the King's Men and played Kelly Leak in the "Bad News Bears" films in the '70s.

Zack Snyder (300) is directing the big screen adaptation, based on the 12-issue comic book created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin are producing.

[Jerry007]

Info from comingsoon.net:

ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype!'s Max Evry recently talked with actor Patrick Wilson about his upcoming drama Evening and decided to try to put to rest the rampant rumors that he's in talks to play Nite Owl in Zack Snyder's adaptation of Alan Moore's Watchmen. Wilson didn't deny the rumors, but you can read their discussion and decide for yourself if Wilson is "pulling a Shia" or whether he's already cinched that key role.

SHH!: Recently Zack Snyder made a statement to a reporter basically confirming that there had been an offer put out to you to play Nite Owl in "Watchmen." Is it true?

Patrick Wilson: (Laughs) Umm... you know... what'd he say? I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this stuff. It's been confirmed on a lot of websites, I'll just say that.

SHH!: Are you familiar with the material?

Wilson: I am, very.

SHH!: Are you enthusiastic about the material?

Wilson: (laughs) The material's phenomenal, let's put it that way. It's pretty unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Just as we were talking about, you know with every huge... and that's a totally different, when you talk about comic book movies that doesn't even do an ounce of justice to that script, both the movie script and the original graphic novel is pretty phenomenal writing.

SHH!: Totally, and if it is true you'd be a good fit for that role, if you were hypothetically to play it.

Wilson: (sarcastic) If by chance I did have... when does your story run?

SHH!: Probably a couple weeks.

Wilson: Oh yeah, well by then I would imagine there might be... I mean, I would blab my mouth 'cause I certainly haven't been told to keep quiet. It's just out of respect for them trying to get everybody else on board before I go ahead and blab my mouth, but it's pretty cool. It's exciting stuff.

In the meantime, you'll be able to see Wilson in Michael Cunningham's Evening, which opens on June 29 and you can read the rest of this interview later this week.

[Jerry007]

Here's the rumoured cast list for the anticipated Watchmen. Info from http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/06/nice-big-slice-of-watchmen-cast-cake.html :

Regular reader Antonello alerted me to a rumoured Watchmen cast list. Of course, I haven't been able to confirm it, so take it for what it is: a group of actors who may or may not have signed, or be in talks, but that certain whispering voices insist is 100% genuine. Of course, it is almost certainly not genuine at all and is a combination of already exisiting rumours and fanboy wish fulfillment. Why so many Little Children alum? It's not Little Children was any good or anything.

We'll soon know more Watchmen casting for sure, but myself... I'd like to believe this list. Not least because I don't have much patience for weeks of rumours and I'd just like to see it all locked off as soon as possible.

Snyder's clearly a talented filmmaker but, honestly, this isn't going to touch the book. It will probably end up looking really very redundant.

Here's the list:

Kate Winslet as Silk Spectre
Patrick Wilson as Night Owl
Jason Patric as Dr. Manhattan
Jude Law as Ozymandias
Thomas Jane as The Comedian
Jeremy Irons as Moloch
Virginia Madsen as Sally Jupiter
Jonah Hill as Seymour
Henry Gibson as Mr. Figure
William Fichtner as Detective Fine
Noah Emmerich as Captain Metropolis
Gretchen Mol as Janey Slater

[Jerry007]

Info from comingsoon.net:

CHUD is reporting that Billy Crudup, who starred in Almost Famous and Mission: Impossible III, and is the voice of the MasterCard commercials, has been cast as Dr. Manhattan in Zack Snyder's Watchmen.

A very reliable source tells me that Snyder has settled on Crudup for the role of Watchmen's only super-powered character, a scientist who accidentally gets annihilated on an atomic level and reconstructs himself into a big, naked, blue, floating demigod.

[Jerry007]

Info from superherohype.com:

ComingSoon.net has posted Warner Bros. Pictures' new synopsis for the Watchmen movie, to be directed by Zack Snyder. It goes like this...

"Watchmen" is set in an alternate 1985 America in which costumed superheroes are part of the fabric of everyday society, and the "Doomsday Clock" – which charts the USA's tension with the Soviet Union – is permanently set at five minutes to midnight. When one of his former colleagues is murdered, the washed up but no less determined masked vigilante Rorschach sets out to uncover a plot to kill and discredit all past and present superheroes. As he reconnects with his former crime-fighting legion – a ragtag group of retired superheroes, only one of whom has true powers – Rorschach glimpses a wide-ranging and disturbing conspiracy with links to their shared past and catastrophic consequences for the future. Their mission is to watch over humanity... but who is watching the Watchmen?"

No release date has been set for the big screen adaptation of the graphic novel.

[ExK]

And to prove my point...

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/tdr_racing/misc/TheComedian.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/tdr_racing/misc/135BruceTheComedian.jpg

It's not the most fitting pic of Bruce Campbell that I found (to Photoshop) that has him looking like The Comedian...but hopefully you get my point. Hehehe... =:p

ok ok you got me ... which of the above is the real Bruce Campell? :s7:

[Jerry007]

Info from hollywoodreporter.com:

"Watchmen," the long-gestating big-screen adaptation of the seminal DC Comics limited series, has finally found its superheroes.

Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Malin Akerman have been cast in the Warner Bros. movie, which Zack Snyder is directing. Larry Gordon, Lloyd Levin and Deborah Snyder are producing.

Set in an alternate America, "Watchmen" follows costumed hero Rorschach, who is living a vigilante lifestyle because most masked heroes have retired or been outlawed. While investigating a murder, Rorschach learns that a former masked-hero colleague has been killed, prompting him to begin investigating a possible conspiracy.

Haley will play Walter Kovacs, aka Rorschach, who ignores the ban on costumed vigilantes.

Crudup will play Dr. Manhattan, a superpowered being with godlike powers and temperament.


Akerman will play Laurie Juspeczyk/the Silk Spectre, who is involved with Dr. Manhattan -- but that relationship begins to fall apart as he becomes more disconnected from humanity.

Goode will play Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias, a costume adventurer who retired voluntarily, disclosed his identity and built a large fortune. He hatches a plot to avert a global catastrophe he believes will be caused by Dr. Manhattan.

Wilson will play the Nite-Owl, a crime-figher who uses technical wizardry and has an owl-shaped flying vehicle.

Morgan will play the Comedian, a cigar-chomping, gun-toting vigilante-turned-paramilitary agent.

"Watchmen," created by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, is one of the most critically acclaimed series in the genre. The comic is credited for redefining the superhero genre and often is referred to as the "War and Peace" of comic books. It is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes. "Watchmen" appeared as the only graphic novel on Time magazine's list of the 100 best novels since 1923.

A feature adaptation was in preproduction at Paramount with director Paul Greengrass at the helm. Casting was under way when the studio pulled the plug in June 2005 and let go of the project.

Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves and Jude Law were interested in the Snyder incarnation, though they balked when it became clear that the studio was holding the line on the budget.

Shooting is set to start in the fall in Vancouver, with Snyder employing many of the filming techniques he used for his boxoffice success "300."

[Pyre]

if u need pics to associate the actor names...

http://www.filmwad.com/watchmen-cast-revealed-it-s-mostly-crap--3450-p.html

[Wzierbovsky]

From the looks of it, IMO casting Patrick Wilson and Jackie Earle Haley as Nite Owl and Rorschach is spot on. Wilson looks the part, as does Haley. Only thing about Haley is that in the comic books Rorschach is a pretty tall character, but Haley as an actor IIRC isn't very tall and almost skinny build even.

[boreboor]

i thought rorschack was pretty short, and he wore high boots?

[AshleyRiot]

Well, those interested can borrow it from the library...that's where I read this awesome comic...

I can't imagine what the screen version would look like seriously...but I can't wait for it...

[Jerry007]

Info from superherohype.com:

Warner Bros. Pictures has launched the official website (http://www.watchmenmovie.com/) for Zack Snyder's Watchmen, opening in theaters on March 6, 2009.

If you click the smiley face on the site, you'll be taken to a menu that will soon include photos, the Comic-Con poster and a Production Blog.

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

The official website for director Zack Snyder's Watchmen adaptation has been updated with a cool new entry by executive producer Herb Gains:

As we approach the last days of shooting Watchmen -- yes, the end is nigh -- it's time to reflect on the whole Watchmen experience. I think back to January 2007 when I first met Zack and he walked me through his drawings for the title sequence. I remember my initial reaction was, How can we shoot all of it? Why do we have to shoot all that? And if we do, how do we shoot all of it? We spent the next two months scouting, researching and budgeting locations all over the world, including Australia, London, Prague, Spain -- at one point we even considered New York -- and, of course, Los Angeles.

I now sit in my Vancouver hotel room one year later, and guess what? We did shoot all of it -- every frame of it, and not just the title sequence drawings but all of Zack's drawings are now committed to film. The combination of modern-day technology and the level of artistic ability of so many people has made the Watchmen experience second to none. The spirit behind the making of this film was nothing short of total pleasure and love. As I wandered from room to room at the wrap party, there was not only a sense of accomplishment from everyone involved but a feeling of sadness that it's coming to an end. The one thing that remains for me is the anticipation and excitement of seeing the finished product, knowing that we've all worked on something very special.

Thank you Zack, for allowing me to be a part of it.

Warner Bros. Pictures will release the film, starring Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Malin Akerman, Carla Gugino, Stephen McHattie and Matt Frewer, on March 6, 2009.

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

Watchmen director Zack Snyder has revealed on the official website a first look at five characters from the highly-anticipated movie, which is now exactly one year away from being released on March 6, 2009. Here are Jeffrey Dean Morgan as The Comedian, Patrick Wilson as Nite Owl, Matthew Goode as Ozymandias, Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach, and Malin Akerman as Silk Spectre!

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/ComedianFull-thumb.jpg

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/NIteOwlFull-thumb.jpg

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/OzymandiasFull-thumb.jpg

[Jerry007]

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/RorschachFull-thumb.jpg

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/SilkSpectreFull-thumb.jpg

[Wzierbovsky]

Of the five, only The Comedian and Rorschach look like it's lifted straight out of the comic book. By the time the story takes place in the book, Nite Owl has gained a lot of weight and is basically plump. Ozymandias looks the part facially, but the costume colors don't look right.

Then again, it's Snyder's production and he doesn't need to follow Alan Moore's color schemes or illustrations - though that'll definitely not make the whacko, whoops, writer happy.

[spielberg]

So long!!! 6 March 2009. *faint*

[boreboor]

yeah why must they make their costumes so fanciful?
The whole purpose is that they are past their prime and still playing "superhero in tights" !

[Jerry007]

yeah why must they make their costumes so fanciful?
The whole purpose is that they are past their prime and still playing "superhero in tights" !

They still have to wear their tights when in action mah. :D

[Wzierbovsky]

In the series they did wear tights when selected heroes attempted to relive their glory days. But one of the central themes of Alan Moore's story is heroes in retirement and past their prime, exactly as boreboor's said. So, tights are OK, but if the movie version also has these actors with six pecs and nothing indicative of their middle-ages, then it's a smack on how faithful is the movie to the original source.

[Jerry007]

In the series they did wear tights when selected heroes attempted to relive their glory days. But one of the central themes of Alan Moore's story is heroes in retirement and past their prime, exactly as boreboor's said. So, tights are OK, but if the movie version also has these actors with six pecs and nothing indicative of their middle-ages, then it's a smack on how faithful is the movie to the original source.

The Nite Owl seems to have a beer belly. :D
Anyway, I hope this movie is done right or it's gonna piss many fans.

[Jerry007]

Check out the teaser trailer for Alan Moore's WATCHMEN here (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1670081657)!

Looks absolutely cool and is one of my most anticipated for 2009!

[Wzierbovsky]

Wow Looks like a lot of scenes were taken directly from the comic book frames. Dr. Manhattan exploding Mexicans while Yank choppers fly over head - what more can I say? :s13:

Nite Owl though looks and fights like Batman-lite and that so didn't work for me.

[Jerry007]

Wow Looks like a lot of scenes were taken directly from the comic book frames. Dr. Manhattan exploding Mexicans while Yank choppers fly over head - what more can I say? :s13:

Nite Owl though looks and fights like Batman-lite and that so didn't work for me.

It seems that Alan Moore is still not pleased.

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

In addition to the teaser trailer which you can now watch here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/) at Apple, Warner Bros. Pictures has updated the official website (http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/)for the Zack Snyder-directed Watchmen movie as well!

At the site, you can read the synopsis, get new downloads such as wallpapers and icons, view the photo gallery and read the production diary. Oh, and there's a countdown clock and cool Flash animations!!

Meanwhile, Entertainment Weekly is going all-out with coverage on the movie this week. You can read their exclusive feature that includes more photos here (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213273,00.html) (view the magazine's cover here (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213257,00.html)) and an interview with Snyder is up here (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213273_6,00.html).

[Jerry007]

From joblo.com:

Friday belongs to the Bat, but today is WATCHMEN day on the internets!

While the new trailer pumps hot full-motion joy into ocular devices, some comic fans may ponder just how close the film will be to the printed masterwork. Rope of Silicon has - with astonishing swiftness -- posted a side-by-side comparison of key scenes from the trailer against the source material. And while director Zack Snyder has taken occasional (and perhaps necessary) license with adapting, the accuracy should appease even the most persnickety fan.

Click on here (http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/watchmen_trailer_to_comic_comparison/) for the article!

[Wzierbovsky]

Moore will never be pleased. He's permanently pissed, even after marriage. The guy's got ego the size of a Everest.

It seems that Alan Moore is still not pleased.

[Swordsman]

Rorschach my fav character :s13:

[Jerry007]

Check out the posters of the movie from IGN (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/034/034260/imgs_2.html):

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055359018_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055403986_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055405377_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055400705_640w.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055402611_640w.jpg

[Jerry007]

From joblo.com:

Well sorta... We here at JoBlo.com haven't seen the entire WATCHMEN film yet (though we're free at a moment's notice Mr. Snyder...) but someone out there has. And that someone is Kevin Smith. Smith shared the Comic-Con stage during the Entertainment Weekly "Visionaries" panel (along with Judd Apatow and Frank Miller) and shortly thereafter Snyder invited Smith to screen a rough cut of the film. While Smith is sadly hamstrung by a non-disclosure agreement, he did post some thoughts on his MySpace blog:

And just so it's not all about me and my ****... I saw "Watchmen." It's f*cking astounding. The Non-Disclosure Agreement I signed prevents me from saying much, but I can spout the following with complete joygasmic enthusiasm: Snyder and Co. have pulled it off.

Remember that feeling of watching "Sin City" on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals? Triple that, and you'll come close to watching "Watchmen." Even Alan Moore might be surprised at how close the movie is to the book. March can't come soon enough.

[gumballz]

cant wait for this...dr manhattan looks uber cool!!!

[Jerry007]

Let's hope the lawsuit won't result in the delay of the release of the movie.

From movieweb.com:

While Zack Snyder's new film Watchmen won't be released in theaters until March 6 of next year, it seems the film could be embroiled in a legal studio battle. According to Variety, a judge has dismissed a motion from Warner Bros. to dismiss the lawsuit brought against them by 20th Century Fox over the rights to the Watchmen film.

The ruling is a huge victory for Fox, which may end up as being a profit participant in the film. Fox retained the rights to the graphic novel by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, which the studio originally purchased in 1991. When producer David Gordon picked up the option on the project out of turnaround in 1994, the judge ruled, he never excersised that option for Fox's remaining interest in the film, therefore, Fox's rights to the film should still be intact.

[Jerry007]

This is just another fine example of corporate greed in the form of 20th Century Fox, which is not doing anyhting good to its corporate image.

Info from movieweb.com:

New York Times claims that the legal battles going on between Fox and Warner Bros. over the release of Watchmen are getting extremely sticky.


Fox has said it will seek an injunction blocking Warner's planned release of the film next March. Warner has argued that Fox should not be allowed to stop the movie, after standing by while Warner and its partners on the film, Paramount Pictures and Legendary Pictures, spent more than $100 million on the production, directed by Zack Snyder (300).

In a summary of its position in Friday's report, Warner said Fox "sat silently" as one of the producers of Watchmen, Lawrence Gordon, took the project "to studio after studio with Fox's express knowledge."

Fox, which filed a lawsuit in February, has claimed in its own filings that Mr. Gordon did not keep the studio apprised of his plans, as required by a 1994 agreement. That deal granted Mr. Gordon rights to Watchmen in "turnaround" - an industry term for arrangements under which producers can move a project from one studio to another under certain conditions.

In Warner's version of events, Mr. Gordon, who is not named as a defendant in the Fox suit, actually offered the project to Fox in 2005, shortly before bringing it to Warner after years of trying to make the movie with Paramount. "Fox simply rejected it," Warner said in the Friday filing.


As of now, Watchmen is still scheduled to be released on March 6th, 2009.

[Jerry007]

From movieweb.com:

Superhero movies are big business, and you don't need to look any farther then this site to realize that people want to know about every possible sequel to any superhero film. But are they really considering a sequel to the not-yet-released Watchmen? Well, Patrick Wilson, who plays Nite Owl in the film, recently told MTV that he does, in fact, have a sequel clause in his contract for the film.

"It's all been talked about," laughed Wilson. "Financially, they like to do that. But all of us, [director] Zack [Snyder] included, all go, 'How on Earth could you do a sequel or prequel?'" Wilson went on to explain that such a clause is fairly standard in contracts for superhero films. These movies tend to make big money, and it's logical that the studio wants to know that if they turn the film into a franchise, that they can ensure the return of the talent from one film to the next.

So, despite the unlikelihood of a Watchmen sequel or prequel, would Wilson be interested in donning Nite Owl's costume again?

"Certainly, artistically, I can't fathom how it would happen," said Wilson. "But hey, if Alan Moore writes it, I'd love to read it."

Considering that Moore has publicly stated, on more than one occasion, that he finds the idea of a sequel (or a film adaptation!) to Watchmen repellant, and he isn't really on speaking terms with DC Comics and their parent company, Warner Brothers, that doesn't seem to be real likely.

Watchmen is set in an alternate 1985 America where costumed heroes are a part of the world's history, and the "Doomsday Clock", which measures the tension between the USA and the U.S.S.R. is constantly at five minutes to midnight. Rorschach, a vigilante who refused to retire when his teammates did, is drawn out by the murder of one of his colleagues, and pulled into a world-wide conspiracy with terrifying implications for the future of mankind.

Watchmen stars Patrick Wilson, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Jackie Earle Haley, Malin Akerman, Matthew Goode, Stephen McHattie, Carla Gugino and Matt Frewer. The film hits theatres March 10, 2009.

[defn]

Wow, David Hayter's one of the screenwriters? :D

[Jerry007]

Check out the teaser poster from one of the most anticipated movies in 2009!

http://media.movieweb.com/img/z/D/D/PHzhXEzG5yRzDD_m.jpg

[deathan9el]

saw de trailer to de abv movie tdy while watchin' tropic thunder .. muz say it looks impressive .
hope it doesnt disappoint . :o

[TheoDR]

Loved the comic! Think I'll love the movie too :D

[Jerry007]

saw de trailer to de abv movie tdy while watchin' tropic thunder .. muz say it looks impressive .
hope it doesnt disappoint . :o

Yeap, the trailer was gorgeous without giving too much away. Those who are not familiar with the comic will be quite confused with the trailer.

[deathan9el]

Yeap, the trailer was gorgeous without giving too much away. Those who are not familiar with the comic will be quite confused with the trailer.

tbh .. am not a comic fan but juz love to watch dis kinda movies ..as long as me dun get too lost of de plot .

... & when me saw de middle part of de trailer ..me thot it's abt silver surfer or smthn' . :o

[Wzierbovsky]

Talking about the comic though; stylistically speaking, I think Zack Snyder has it spot on now. But the movie's gonna have to do a lot of condensation of the 300+ page comic book into a 2-2.5 hour movie. Especially with Moore's use of so many flashbacks. Though hopefully the movie will send movie goers to Kino or similar bookshops to get their hands on the trade version of the 12 book series to read the full story.

[Jerry007]

Talking about the comic though; stylistically speaking, I think Zack Snyder has it spot on now. But the movie's gonna have to do a lot of condensation of the 300+ page comic book into a 2-2.5 hour movie. Especially with Moore's use of so many flashbacks. Though hopefully the movie will send movie goers to Kino or similar bookshops to get their hands on the trade version of the 12 book series to read the full story.

Yea, I have to settle for the trade version coz cant find the hardcover one.

[Jerry007]

From movieweb.com:

Warner Bros. Pictures has unleashed six new character posters for Watchmen, the comic book adaptation by director Zack Snyder. Opening in theaters March 6th, the film stars Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Malin Akerman, Carla Gugino, Stephen McHattie and Matt Frewer.

http://media.movieweb.com/img/G/x/D/PHupmzzxnMaGxD_m.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/img/q/F/H/PHCkwHHF855qFH_m.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/img/f/x/v/PHtSTyyw9Wffxv_m.jpg

[Jerry007]

http://media.movieweb.com/img/s/9/7/PH6aGbb9Pnxs97_m.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/img/I/H/J/PHDuKIIGlU7IHJ_m.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/img/i/E/F/PHAdRFFDDnXiEF_m.jpg

The posters feature The Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan), Dr. Manhattan (Billy Crudup), Ozymandias (Matthew Goode), Rorschach (Jackie Earle Haley), Silk Spectre II (Malin Akerman) and Nite Owl II (Patrick Wilson).

[Jerry007]

Check out the new trailer HERE (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/video/10658091)!

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

Devin Faraci at CHUD.com got a chance to watch the first 22 minutes of Warner Bros. Pictures' Watchmen this weekend at Butt-Numb-A-Thon in Austin and has described what he saw in full. Here's a clip:

It will look and feel like a real movie.

That's a weird thing to say, but there are lots of people out there who, having only seen the trailers released to the public, are jumping to the conclusion that Zack Snyder has made a Watchmen filled with speed ramping and flashy money shots. From what I've seen this isn't even remotely true at all. The footage is stylish - well shot, with rich visuals and dynamic compositions - but it looked more like a modern take on a noir film than anything else. What I saw was moody, sometimes muted. Snyder allows his takes to be long, eschewing a quick cut style that many seem to think would rule the day in this film. The 22 minutes I saw didn't feel like an action film at all.

You can check out his full article here (http://chud.com/articles/articles/17450/1/WATCHMEN-THE-FIRST-22-MINUTES/Page1.html)!

[TheoDR]

Yea, I have to settle for the trade version coz cant find the hardcover one.

I daresay the Absolute version is something you won't regret getting. :D I think they've reprinted the "normal" hardcover version. Just got myself Absolute Watchmen recently, about $80 with the current Kinokuniya member sale. :)

[Wzierbovsky]

Looks like the Fox vs Warner battle on the release of the movie is hotting up LOL.

http://news.google.com/?ncl=1283313789&hl=en&topic=e

Fox will fight for 'Watchmen' delay

By Borys Kit

Dec 29, 2008, 03:46 PM ET

"Warner Bros.' message to Fox regarding "Watchmen" copyright infringement can be summed up this way: Bring it on.

In a defiant statement issued Monday, Warners said it was prepared to go to trial or to appeal last week's ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Gary Feess, who stated that the studio had infringed on Fox's copyright in making the adaptation of the Alan Moore superhero graphic novel.

"We respectfully but vigorously disagree with the court's ruling and are exploring all of our appellate options," the studio said. "We continue to believe that Fox's claims have no merit and that we will ultimately prevail, whether at trial or in the Court of Appeals."

Fox, meanwhile, is looking for an injunction against the March 6, 2009, release of the movie."

etc.

[boreboor]

Check out the new trailer HERE (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/video/10658091)!

this new trailer is much better, and it seems that the movie is sticking pretty close to the story!
I'm re-reading watchmen now just to refresh my memory :s13:

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

Warner Bros. Pictures has provided us with a new featurette on director Zack Snyder's Watchmen, coming to conventional theaters and IMAX on March 6th. The big screen adaptation stars Malin Akerman, Billy Crudup, Matthew Goode, Carla Gugino, Jackie Earle Haley, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Patrick Wilson. You can watch the featurette using one of the links below:

QuickTime (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/watchmen/video/WatchmenNCM_Lg.mov), Hi-Res
QuickTime (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/watchmen/video/WatchmenNCM_Med.mov), Med-Res
QuickTime (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/watchmen/video/WatchmenNCM_Sm.mov), Lo-Res

[Jerry007]

Here's the final Watchmen poster:

http://media.movieweb.com/img/q/d/d/PHaJcediwHpqdd_m.jpg

[RipperJack]

http://media.movieweb.com/img/q/F/H/PHCkwHHF855qFH_m.jpg

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/b/images/batman-and-robin-6.jpg








even the nipple patches are uncanny :o

[Jerry007]

Here's the IMAX poster which I feel looks better than the movie one-sheet:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/020209_watchmanimax.jpg

[deathan9el]

definitely me would catch it .. even though not a hardcore fan myself . :D

[lordlad0]

i wanna dressed as roschache for the premiere......who's on ?? :)

[secret_boy]

tis movie look nice...although i totally dunno wat is it about.....

[gumballz]

lovin da silk spectre skin tite suit

[lordlad0]

Official Viral video for the Watchmen movie.............a public service announcement of the Keene Act!!! I just explode with fanboyism!!!

n5WsciSNVS0

[HOTROD1988]

Watchmen has been rated R21 in Singapore! Here: http://www.mda.gov.sg/wms.www/resources_result.aspx?search=Watchmen&actor=&producer=&rating=&language=&decision=

[Swordsman]

Watchmen has been rated R21 in Singapore! Here: http://www.mda.gov.sg/wms.www/resources_result.aspx?search=Watchmen&actor=&producer=&rating=&language=&decision=

what the hell that means must go cathay to watch liao.

[Jerry007]

Watchmen has been rated R21 in Singapore! Here: http://www.mda.gov.sg/wms.www/resources_result.aspx?search=Watchmen&actor=&producer=&rating=&language=&decision=

That's good news! At least the movie will be shown intact.

[secret_boy]

Watchmen has been rated R21 in Singapore! Here: http://www.mda.gov.sg/wms.www/resources_result.aspx?search=Watchmen&actor=&producer=&rating=&language=&decision=

wat the hell........superheroes movie still need to R21......

[MatrixFanatic]

wat the hell........superheroes movie still need to R21......

This is not Spiderman.:o

[Krug]

Uh no that's not the final rating. The company releasing it will probably cut it so it gets a NC-16 or M-18 rating.

[Providence]

The superheroes are damn colorful and funny-looking. :s13:

[partlycloudy]

Uh no that's not the final rating. The company releasing it will probably cut it so it gets a NC-16 or M-18 rating.

Don't worry guys, I just got news that Watchmen is confirmed M18. Simply can't wait for it to come out!!

[Jerry007]

Don't worry guys, I just got news that Watchmen is confirmed M18. Simply can't wait for it to come out!!

Any cuts for M18?

[secret_boy]

Don't worry guys, I just got news that Watchmen is confirmed M18. Simply can't wait for it to come out!!

is this for real???? glad to hear tat.....how u noe?

[trickle_on]

I've been watching this thread and the MDA movie classification site.

What we are going to get is the 'CE' a.k.a. "Bloody Stupid Cut Version".

May consider catching it when I travel overseas next week.

To say it is disappointing would be a damn understatement.

[kennyboy]

ah crap...they submitted a cut version for them to rate.

WATCHMEN - ENGLISH M18 CE

Screw them.

[kennyboy]

I'm SO PISSED OFF....SCREW THEM ALL!!!!

[Jerry007]

I'm SO PISSED OFF....SCREW THEM ALL!!!!

Calm down kenny. We can always wait another 6 months for the blu-ray / dvd and see it in its entirety.

[kennyboy]

Calm down kenny. We can always wait another 6 months for the blu-ray / dvd and see it in its entirety.
haiz...still can't beat the big screen experience. :(

Guess I'm just a big watchmen fan..... There wasn't that much nudity and violence in it anyway.

[Jerry007]

It is at 92% fresh at rottentomatoes.com now! Check out the reviews HERE (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/watchmen/)!

[trickle_on]

Movies like this are meant to be enjoyed, in their entirety, on a big screen.

Another case of celluloid-murder.

Anyone knows any cinema in Paris that show English language movies without the crappy French audio dubs?

[secret_boy]

It is at 92% fresh at rottentomatoes.com now! Check out the reviews HERE (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/watchmen/)!

the movie out liao meh????

[Da_Face]

world premiered in the UK few days ago, and of course the press/media previews lor

[Jerry007]

Movies like this are meant to be enjoyed, in their entirety, on a big screen.

Another case of celluloid-murder.

Anyone knows any cinema in Paris that show English language movies without the crappy French audio dubs?

I like the phrase "celluloid-murder". Hope it's not copyrighted. :D

[ExK]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/957/957462p1.html

atrocious score from IGN - another Spirit?

[kennyboy]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/957/957462p1.html

atrocious score from IGN - another Spirit?
Conflicting full marks from IGN AU....methinks that one should enjoy this movie as a movie adaptation, and not expect that they squeeze everything from the comics into the show, which is the feeling I got when reading the IGN UK review.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/956/956111p1.html

[zencro]

Hi guys, I have 2 brand new copies of Watchmen graphic novel for sale..

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2284745 :s12:

[galliano]

Attending the premiere tonight @ Lido 1.

Will update when I'm back hm. I've never read a Watchman comic before. Not even sure on what's happening. Thus, i guess my "review" tonight should be from someone totally new to this.

[secret_boy]

so the final rating for tis movie ish confirm M-18???

Edited: i tink ish confirm M-18 le......cos the shaw website had updated......and the running time is 162 minutes.....damm long.....

http://www.shaw.sg/sw_moviedetails.aspx?filmCode=18%20201%20221%20234%2075%20199%20192%20243%20175%2093%2046%20236%20234%2083%20230%2054

[kennyboy]

so the final rating for tis movie ish confirm M-18???

Edited: i tink ish confirm M-18 le......cos the shaw website had updated......and the running time is 162 minutes.....damm long.....

http://www.shaw.sg/sw_moviedetails.aspx?filmCode=18%20201%20221%20234%2075%20199%20192%20243%20175%2093%2046%20236%20234%2083%20230%2054
M18 also no use...cut already.

[secret_boy]

M18 also no use...cut already.

haiz.....no choice.....me still got 1 more year den can watch R21....M-18 better than nth lor.....

[kennyboy]

haiz.....no choice.....me still got 1 more year den can watch R21....M-18 better than nth lor.....
hehehe...it's precisely because the retarded distributor wants to capture your market that's why they cut.

Go and feel guilty. Sit in one corner.









nvm lah...That's why we got loud home theatres with BIG screens to watch uncensored versions at home. :D

[caveman89x]

secret boy :love: ~~~

[Da_Face]

just came back from the preview.... all i'll say at this point is that if there were cuts, they were not noticeable... and I was looking out for any suggestions of a snip

given its runtime, it's rewarding for the patient viewer... if one equates snyder with 300-styled action, don't be expecting any whackfest in this one, just to set the expectations right

[galliano]

Attending the premiere tonight @ Lido 1.

Will update when I'm back hm. I've never read a Watchman comic before. Not even sure on what's happening. Thus, i guess my "review" tonight should be from someone totally new to this.

Back from a rather torturous 2 1/2 hours.. Sorry .. as much as I watch alot of films and enjoy good films ... Watchman is NOT one of them. My affirmation came when there were crowds walking out of the cinema before it ended.

I honestly wished it was good. I'm more of a mainstream comic fan, but have never touched Watchman before. Maybe I'm missing out on smthing ... but I feel that there's gonna be lots of folks out that who will share my exact sentiments after catching the movie.

Sorry folks .. this is not the same as 300. Its deep .. too deep in fact.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.

Pros:
1) The action scenes were gorgeously shot (aka Zack's 300 style). Especially the beginning which i thought was brilliantly done. (or maybe cos Lido 1's sound system was pretty good)

2) There were teeny weeny snippets of flashbacks which revealed more on how each character came to be .. which i felt was very interesting

3) Kudos to the really cool opening credits.. its the nicest form of comic imitation I've seen on screen . .very sureal

4) The Rorschach character and escapades was most interesting. Wished it could have been a movie on its own.

5) Soundtrack's pretty cool ... 80's stuff.

Cons (sigh.......):
1) Can proudly say that half the film ... i had no idea what the objective or motive was

2) Some scenes were borderline corny .. and did not seem to help "move" the plot

3) Way too draggy storyline .. Hmm .. or maybe cos I just could not follow it to have any interest

I read that this film was "impossible" to produce!! I can understand why considering the plot was messy but i did not think it was too special.

Read a review somewhere that this flick was a much "deeper" Dark Knight genre ... i think that's an understatement ... its simply too chim. :D

[kennyboy]

well, it's the pioneer of bring maturity to comics, so some complexity is to be expected.

The graphic novel also must read a few times to catch everything, so this is a movie made for fans I guess? :)

[Jerry007]

Back from a rather torturous 2 1/2 hours.. Sorry .. as much as I watch alot of films and enjoy good films ... Watchman is NOT one of them. My affirmation came when there were crowds walking out of the cinema before it ended.

I honestly wished it was good. I'm more of a mainstream comic fan, but have never touched Watchman before. Maybe I'm missing out on smthing ... but I feel that there's gonna be lots of folks out that who will share my exact sentiments after catching the movie.

Sorry folks .. this is not the same as 300. Its deep .. too deep in fact.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.

Pros:
1) The action scenes were gorgeously shot (aka Zack's 300 style). Especially the beginning which i thought was brilliantly done. (or maybe cos Lido 1's sound system was pretty good)

2) There were teeny weeny snippets of flashbacks which revealed more on how each character came to be .. which i felt was very interesting

3) Kudos to the really cool opening credits.. its the nicest form of comic imitation I've seen on screen . .very sureal

4) The Rorschach character and escapades was most interesting. Wished it could have been a movie on its own.

5) Soundtrack's pretty cool ... 80's stuff.

Cons (sigh.......):
1) Can proudly say that half the film ... i had no idea what the objective or motive was

2) Some scenes were borderline corny .. and did not seem to help "move" the plot

3) Way too draggy storyline .. Hmm .. or maybe cos I just could not follow it to have any interest

I read that this film was "impossible" to produce!! I can understand why considering the plot was messy but i did not think it was too special.

Read a review somewhere that this flick was a much "deeper" Dark Knight genre ... i think that's an understatement ... its simply too chim. :D

Sounds good! I'm actually looking forward to a cerebral stimulating superhero movie, not superficial, crash-boom-bang ones like Ghostrider and Fantastic 4. Can't wait to catch it this week!

[Jerry007]

Movie is at 75% fresh at rottentomatoes.com now! Just got the final poster yesterday. Looks cool! :D

[megalarijuana]

Cant wait to watch this with my friends this Friday. :D :D

[Jerry007]

Cant wait to watch this with my friends this Friday. :D :D

I'm planning to watch on Friday too! :D

[partlycloudy]

Back from a rather torturous 2 1/2 hours.. Sorry .. as much as I watch alot of films and enjoy good films ... Watchman is NOT one of them. My affirmation came when there were crowds walking out of the cinema before it ended.

I honestly wished it was good. I'm more of a mainstream comic fan, but have never touched Watchman before. Maybe I'm missing out on smthing ... but I feel that there's gonna be lots of folks out that who will share my exact sentiments after catching the movie.

Sorry folks .. this is not the same as 300. Its deep .. too deep in fact.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.

Pros:
1) The action scenes were gorgeously shot (aka Zack's 300 style). Especially the beginning which i thought was brilliantly done. (or maybe cos Lido 1's sound system was pretty good)

2) There were teeny weeny snippets of flashbacks which revealed more on how each character came to be .. which i felt was very interesting

3) Kudos to the really cool opening credits.. its the nicest form of comic imitation I've seen on screen . .very sureal

4) The Rorschach character and escapades was most interesting. Wished it could have been a movie on its own.

5) Soundtrack's pretty cool ... 80's stuff.

Cons (sigh.......):
1) Can proudly say that half the film ... i had no idea what the objective or motive was

2) Some scenes were borderline corny .. and did not seem to help "move" the plot

3) Way too draggy storyline .. Hmm .. or maybe cos I just could not follow it to have any interest

I read that this film was "impossible" to produce!! I can understand why considering the plot was messy but i did not think it was too special.

Read a review somewhere that this flick was a much "deeper" Dark Knight genre ... i think that's an understatement ... its simply too chim. :D

I went for the preview too and I feel that it's SO DAMN GOOD. Yes it's abit long but so is lord of the rings. You just have to be mentally prepared.

The dialogue is so beautifully written it's amazing. Not to give out any spoilers, when Roschach say that line in the prison cookhouse, everybody in the cinema is like: "HWAHH!"

I bought the comic immediate the next day and i'm definitely watching it again when it opens to catch the things I've missed.

[galliano]

I went for the preview too and I feel that it's SO DAMN GOOD. Yes it's abit long but so is lord of the rings. You just have to be mentally prepared.

The dialogue is so beautifully written it's amazing. Not to give out any spoilers, when Roschach say that line in the prison cookhouse, everybody in the cinema is like: "HWAHH!"

I bought the comic immediate the next day and i'm definitely watching it again when it opens to catch the things I've missed.

Wao .. totally contradicts my opinions. Hahaha.. =:p guess there 2 sides in every coin.

Glad you liked it.

[Jerry007]

I went for the preview too and I feel that it's SO DAMN GOOD. Yes it's abit long but so is lord of the rings. You just have to be mentally prepared.

The dialogue is so beautifully written it's amazing. Not to give out any spoilers, when Roschach say that line in the prison cookhouse, everybody in the cinema is like: "HWAHH!"

I bought the comic immediate the next day and i'm definitely watching it again when it opens to catch the things I've missed.

Seems like it's a like it or hate it kinda movie?

[Da_Face]

I suppose everyone would have known by now how Alan Moore really distanced himself from the cinematic version of his highly acclaimed graphic novel. And in all honesty, it's all about control, given that you've written one of your career's best, only for some other guy to roll along, and to interpret it in another medium. It's akin to acceding and handing over your pet project to someone else whom you have no inkling of whether they can do a good job out of it, and it's really a risk put out there since it’s a mass medium, different from where Moore insists Watchmen should belong to – in print.

Continues at http://anutshellreview.blogspot.com/2009/03/watchmen.html

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

Warner Bros. Pictures' Watchmen has set its first record before even opening - its 3,611 theater count will be the most ever for an R-rated film.

Also, the Zack Snyder-directed graphic novel adaptation will play in an impressive 1,600 locations starting at midnight Thursday. That's substantially more than the 656 midnight shows that helped Snyder's 300 earn $28 million in only the first day of its $71 million opening weekend in March 2007.

The first-day haul for 300 was the second-highest ever for an R-rated film, after the $42.5 million tally that Warners registered with 2003's The Matrix Reloaded. The previous widest release for an R-rated movie was the distributor's 3,603-theater bow for "Reloaded."

The Watchmen theater count includes 124 engagements in IMAX which all will have midnight shows.

[RipperJack]

should i read the graphic novel first b4 watching the movie? :(

[Swordsman]

should i read the graphic novel first b4 watching the movie? :(

you should watch movie first ? lol

[tribal10]

one advise...dun drink too much water.or u must pee before u watch the movie.kekekeke

[Krug]

should i read the graphic novel first b4 watching the movie? :(

Either way, one is going to spoil the other. ;)

But I think the graphic novel is a classic that has withstood the test of time. Not sure about the movie.

[lordlad0]

i cant believe ppl complain some movie being too complex...

seems that most moviegoers nowadays can only consume CG heavy popcorn summer blockbuster (like transformers or other equivilant)


anyway, i havent watch it yet but i am like the greatest alan moore fan ever (i have ALL his books) and am also one of the biggest Watchmen fan. I will try to watch with an open mind but the original source material will always remained untouched and untopped...............

To those that liked the film, read the book and get your minds frakking blown away.........remember, a book that is written in the 1980s where comics were seen as kiddie stuff and funny books.

[RipperJack]

Either way, one is going to spoil the other. ;)

But I think the graphic novel is a classic that has withstood the test of time. Not sure about the movie.
then better watch moobee first :D




good movie to watch with chicks on hot dates? :o

[boreboor]

ST's Life section just gave it 2/5!

dun care, definitely going to watch!

[tribal10]

sometimes all this rating not jun one......those ah lee movie that get awards they will give very high rating......like one of the recent movies i watch,let the right one in.....i believe they will give very high....but when i watch it,i fall asleep....so bored.....

[kennyboy]

ST's Life section just gave it 2/5!

dun care, definitely going to watch!
ST is crap for movie reviews. Don't bother reading it if you want any balance review.

[megalarijuana]

cant wait to watch this! :D

[Swordsman]

then better watch moobee first :D




good movie to watch with chicks on hot dates? :o

noo.... unless yr chicks like to watch violent movie..

[reno77]

Spent the last 4 hours reading all 12 comics. Hope can catch the movie tomorrow.
Not sure why the movie is RA.. the comics isnt that violent they could have made it PG.

[secret_boy]

me oso cant wait to watch tis movie!!!!!! maybe catching it on next tues.......

[Jerry007]

Most cinemas in town almost full house for evening show! Will be catching this tonite and posting later. :D

[Krug]

then better watch moobee first :D




good movie to watch with chicks on hot dates? :o

Uh no. Def not a date movie.

[Jerry007]

Some spoliers ahead....

I do not know where to begin to dissect Watchmen becoz there are so many interesting ideas and concepts being tossed around. I guess the movie really do warrant repeat viewings to appreciate it at a level as intended by the director or Alan Moore. The setting may seem dated to some (the story happens in a parallel universe during the Cold war era) but the ideas presented are well ahead of its time, exploring the decadence of modern society and humanity and even the concept of being a hero.

The Comedian and Rorschach are the most interesting of the Watchmen as they can almost be described as psychopaths, maniacs or murderers acting as masked vigilantes, something that contradicts what we usually associate with the wholesome goodness of a superhero. It is ironic that these ruthless killers, who kill with sheer brute force and without mercy, will weep for the impending deaths of millions of people, at the sick and twisted excuse of saving billions.

The 2 1/2-h movie was engaging enough though it started out slow after the first killing. However, the entire movie experience was simply rewarding. Plenty of signature editing by Zack Synder as witnessed from "300" but this was done to enhance the intensity and brutality of the action sequences and i feel he has succeeded. Kudos to Zack Synder for having the vision to make such a visually stunning movie (the movie seems right out of the graphic novel) and bombarding us with a harsh reality that could prove too difficult for us to swallow! Watching the Watchmen reminds me of V For Vendetta which balances engaging action scenes with stimulating, challenging ideas.

Watchmen will definitely end up in my top 10 list for this year's best movies!

[Krug]

Just saw it. Enjoyed it even though it started out slowly with the character and background establishment. But once that was out of the way it wasn't bad. I did like the new ending and how Snyder tied things together.

Will post more tom.

[Jerry007]

Just saw it. Enjoyed it even though it started out slowly with the character and background establishment. But once that was out of the way it wasn't bad. I did like the new ending and how Snyder tied things together.

Will post more tom.

Yea, I like how the backstory of each individual characters got fleshed out, giving us a peek into their psychic and intention.

[Swordsman]

just watch it,my favourite character gotta be Rorschach. I think rorschach should be everyone's favorite watchmen character but his death was extremely important to the story. something would have been lost if they'd kept him alive. rorschach represents the black-and-white view of good and evil. those who do wrong must be punished, those who do not do wrong must be protected, and as he said near the end, without compromise. to die at the hands of dr. manhattan is fitting because manhattan and veidt represented the shrewd reasoning based on reality rather than ideals. they try to create a better world by meeting evil somewhere in the middle, and this is our typical nature. there are so few people unwilling to compromise truth, justice, and honor, and those people get walked over by the whores of the "real world". it is about the choice between working toward an ideal world and working within the already existing world. the ideal usually loses.

[Swordsman]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/707799-3276903748_bee39c2677_super.jpg

[ralliart12]

just watch it,my favourite character gotta be Rorschach. I think rorschach should be everyone's favorite watchmen character but his death was extremely important to the story. something would have been lost if they'd kept him alive. rorschach represents the black-and-white view of good and evil. those who do wrong must be punished, those who do not do wrong must be protected, and as he said near the end, without compromise. to die at the hands of dr. manhattan is fitting because manhattan and veidt represented the shrewd reasoning based on reality rather than ideals. they try to create a better world by meeting evil somewhere in the middle, and this is our typical nature. there are so few people unwilling to compromise truth, justice, and honor, and those people get walked over by the whores of the "real world". it is about the choice between working toward an ideal world and working within the already existing world. the ideal usually loses.

Yah man, I read e graphic novel, hated this part of e ending, watched e movie last night; god I hate Dr Manhattan...:s27:

And btw, Besides Dr Manhattan, the rest of the Minutemen no special ability right? Then how come:

1. How come Rorschach's mask can change pattern?
3. He's pure agile when scaling buildings is it? Or he's damn good at parkour?

...I did like the new ending and how Snyder tied things together.

Will post more tom.

I was half waiting to see how they r gonna manifest e alien on-screen, but guess they went the safe route of nuclear holocaust.

Spent the last 4 hours reading all 12 comics. Hope can catch the movie tomorrow.
Not sure why the movie is RA.. the comics isnt that violent they could have made it PG.

How come got 12 comics? I tot is only 1 thick graphic novel?

Erm, as for the PG, confirm no-go; u watch u will know.

Uh no. Def not a date movie.

I watched it with my date; she commented it is almost, but not quite the "level" of "V for Vendetta".

just came back from the preview.... all i'll say at this point is that if there were cuts, they were not noticeable... and I was looking out for any suggestions of a snip...

R u sure?! I tot the erratic "jumps" were damn obvious? Esp. the part where Night Owl and Silk Spectre were having "fun"?

[Krug]

Yah man, I read e graphic novel, hated this part of e ending, watched e movie last night; god I hate Dr Manhattan...:s27:

And btw, Besides Dr Manhattan, the rest of the Minutemen no special ability right? Then how come:

1. How come Rorschach's mask can change pattern?
3. He's pure agile when scaling buildings is it? Or he's damn good at parkour?


1. The mask was developed by a substance by Doc Manhattan. It's only in B&W b/c that's how Rorschach sees the world. In B&W.
3. Yeap. Other than Doc Manhattan, the rest of the guys are just supposed to be human, but prob like 'Batman' human. I mean what Veidt did at the end when Silk Spectre used the gun.. uh ok. The movie though did kinda make the supposedly normal superheroes into practically that, especially Veidt, who looked he could jump 100m in the air.



How come got 12 comics? I tot is only 1 thick graphic novel?



R u sure?! I tot the erratic "jumps" were damn obvious? Esp. the part where Night Owl and Silk Spectre were having "fun"?

When it first came out it was a 'maxi-series' of 12 issues. The graphic novel collects all 12.
Thought the jumps during the Night Owl and SS part were quite obvious.

[TrueBeliever_jh]

quite nice movie for mi...

good time was spent on building up the characters.. especially Comedian which die so early in the movie.. but really a good backstory he got..

[Swordsman]

quite nice movie for mi...

good time was spent on building up the characters.. especially Comedian which die so early in the movie.. but really a good backstory he got..

lol i don't like comedian a farking womanizer and rapist.

[catachan]

wat is the name of the song at comedian's funeral ar??

[Jerry007]

wat is the name of the song at comedian's funeral ar??

The Sound of Silence

[Krug]

Opening credits are online: http://io9.com/5166169/the-best-part-of-watchmen-online-now

[symbiote28]

though i didnt know a thing about watchmen, i still find the movie quite good. 7/10

[boreboor]

[QUOTE=Krug;36242298]1. The mask was developed by a substance by Doc Manhattan. It's only in B&W b/c that's how Rorschach sees the world. In B&W.

Can't remember if the material for the mask was developed by Dr Manhattan, but I remember that it was made for a new fashion line, where they trap a layer of ink between 2 thin pieces of cloth so that the ink will be fluid, constantly moving and creating new designs. But it did not go well with the fashion industry, and Rorsharch who was working (can't remember as what) came along and saw the discarded cloth and was mesmerised by the moving blobs and used it to make his mask.

[playst,]

I watch untill I want to fall asleep. The only thing that caught my attention is Dr Manhatten dangling p__is.

:love:

[HoldenCaufield]

awesome film. it was a near carbon copy of the graphic novel. even the silk spectre's mole was at the same place.

but the fact that it was cut really sucked. i wonder what they cut out. they left dr. manhattan's blue cock and nixon's gigantic nose untouched. what can be worse than those two?

[MatrixFanatic]

Sounds to me like this film is one that's ahead of its time, where much more appreciation will be showed as the years go by.

Can't wait to see this for myself.

[saysuzu]

i thought push was bad, but this one is..even worse i think

[playst,]

i thought push was bad, but this one is..even worse i think

Good in certain way but definitely will make you want to fall asleep. As I said earlier on, the only attention grabber is Dr Manhattan's p__is.

[Krug]

Good in certain way but definitely will make you want to fall asleep. As I said earlier on, the only attention grabber is Dr Manhattan's p__is.
-scratch head-
Not sure why folks are so bugged by it. The audience behind me kept on giggling every time it appeared.

[tigerwoods]

what was censored in our spore version?

[Jerry007]

what was censored in our spore version?

I noticed 2 censored scenes. The sex scene between Nite Owl 2 and Silk Spectre 2 and something Silk Spectre I commented.

[Jerry007]

-scratch head-
Not sure why folks are so bugged by it. The audience behind me kept on giggling every time it appeared.

Those people are juz immature.

[Jerry007]

From boxofficemojo.com:

Watchmen clocked in with a vibrant estimated $55.7 million on approximately 7,500 screens at 3,611 theaters, handily topping a weekend where overall business was up around ten percent over last year but a relative cool down compared to 2009's prior blistering pace.

The $150 million adaptation of Alan Moore's graphic novel notched the 12th highest-grossing opening weekend for a comic book movie, behind Fantastic Four (though drops to 20th when ticket-price inflation is factored). With the biggest theater count ever for an R-rated movie, Watchmen had the sixth-highest grossing R-rated start (though, again, adjusting brings it down to 14th), behind The Matrix Reloaded, The Passion of the Christ, 300, Hannibal and Sex and the City. Among Alan Moore adaptations, it doubled the openings of V for Vendetta and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Distributor Warner Bros. revealed who was watching the Watchmen. Their exit polling indicated that 65 percent of the audience was male and 54 percent was over 25 years old.

Less than three and a half percent of Watchmen's theaters accounted for nearly ten percent of its weekend gross. At 124 IMAX venues, the movie pulled in an estimated $5.5 million. That's the second largest IMAX launch on record behind The Dark Knight, which began with $6.3 million at 94 sites (with 24-hour shows unlike Watchmen) or about four percent of that picture's record-breaking debut. "This solidifies in our mind that we're the choice for the fan boys, and we love having them," said Greg Foster, Chairman and President of Filmed Entertainment for IMAX. Watchmen's trailer was attached to all Dark Knight IMAX prints from the start.

Many unrealistically compared Watchmen to 300, the previous picture from Watchmen's director Zack Snyder that was prominently cited in its advertising, and were expecting records to be shattered. However, just because a picture has a massive marketing campaign or a fervent fan base doesn't mean it's going to be a blockbuster. 300 set the March opening benchmark at $70.9 million on around 4,800 screens at 3,103 sites (which included $3.6 million at 62 IMAX venues). While technically 300 was a comic book adaptation like Watchmen, that's where the similarities ended, because 300 was first and foremost a harrowing, clearly-wrought tale based in history with a then-striking visual style.

As visually punchy as Watchmen's marketing tried to be, the movie's story was left obscure to the uninitiated. Considering that style and mystery took precedence over clarity and relatability, Watchmen's opening was terrific. Eventually, ads vaguely revealed that someone was killing off superheroes and that the Watchmen had to figure out why. However, the superheroes in question were not previously well known to the general public, making it an uphill battle to earn audience investment, especially given the picture's ensemble nature. Typically, the biggest superhero movies are the ones where the superheroes are ingrained in the culture, like The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Superman and X-Men. Watchmen's source material had a following but never reached a high level of cultural saturation. What's more, the advertising presented no heroes to root for and no villains to root against (a potent combination that worked like gangbusters with The Dark Knight); instead raising the question "will they save us or destroy us?"

[tribal10]

my was worse...watch at vivo on sat.FULL HOUSE........halfway through saw alot of people going off....left onli half cinema of people only......after movie while walking out,heard afew people said"LAME"show...."STUPID SHOW"...........

[playst,]

The worst part is the ending. I thought the fierce cat got special power or it is going to put up a good fight end up they just zap it and it vapourised.

:s8:

[BiGhaPPyJer]

my was worse...watch at vivo on sat.FULL HOUSE........halfway through saw alot of people going off....left onli half cinema of people only......after movie while walking out,heard afew people said"LAME"show...."STUPID SHOW"...........

It's a show you'd either love or hate.

I loved it, and I really want to catch it again - but there're simply many people out there who'll giggle at the blue penis, and laugh at the soundtrack, and simply not get the complexities of the storyline. People like that should stick to Marley & Me.

[Wzierbovsky]

Watched it, loved it, and looking forward to the extended cut.:)

[gumballz]

i dont care whateva bad reviews this movie had...i watched it on sat at vivo...and was practically blown away by the film's idea....doing bad for the greater good...even my gf who is more into chick flicks and romantic comedies...commented that watchmen is thoroughly a thumbs up movie....except maybe a wee bit too violent for her....

my heart goes out to rorschach....it didnt have to end dat way...sigh...well i tink i need to pick up the comicbook and experience the story in the original medium...

be waiting for a unrated uncut limited collectors edition dvd for this movie....this movie rocks big time!!!

[___jeff]

my gf and i give 5/5 for this movie

[Tuakong]

Many pple thought Watchmen will be like another superhero movie action-packed from begining to end and thus were disappointed.
Watchmen is not for everyone bcos of its mature & at times abstract theme and the politics during the Nixon/Kennedy era.
Defintely not for the mainstream audience....

I enjoyed the movie esp the soundtrack...2 tracks by Leonard Cohen made my day. :D

[warr]

It's a show you'd either love or hate.

I loved it, and I really want to catch it again - but there're simply many people out there who'll giggle at the blue penis, and laugh at the soundtrack, and simply not get the complexities of the storyline. People like that should stick to Marley & Me.

a lot of people go in there without knowing the original story. these people can't understand what these watchmen are about. it is not their fault, but the movie's, because the movie can't explain clearly what it is supposed to be. And this director is good at the gore fest and violence as in 300, but he can't make simple narrations easy to understand by people who don't have the background. I can't call this as a good movie. Having Zack Snyder as the director probably ruined the intent of Allan Moor.

The movie can't represent the original book. the book was good, but the movie can be lame.
Playing "halalujia" song during a sex scene? LOL. and the sound track mix just make some serious parts jokes.

[Jerry007]

a lot of people go in there without knowing the original story. these people can't understand what these watchmen are about. it is not their fault, but the movie's, because the movie can't explain clearly what it is supposed to be. And this director is good at the gore fest and violence as in 300, but he can't make simple narrations easy to understand by people who don't have the background. I can't call this as a good movie. Having Zack Snyder as the director probably ruined the intent of Allan Moor.



Well, have to disagree with u on that. Zack Synder did a superb job by NOT underestimating the intelligence of the audience and trying to make the abstract and heavy themes from the original graphic novel simple for everyone. It makes me excited to want to share and talk about the movie's ideas with my friends. This movie is bordering between the artistic and mainstream so people expecting another dumbed-down Fantastic 4 can juz skip this movie.

[BiGhaPPyJer]

The movie can't represent the original book. the book was good, but the movie can be lame.
Playing "halalujia" song during a sex scene? LOL. and the sound track mix just make some serious parts jokes.

I wonder - did you read the graphics novel? If you read it, you'd probably love the movie.

Anyway, re the song choice, it's a very apt piece.

Hallelujah is a sex song for cryin out loud. Just look at the lyrics!!

Hallelujah

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Baby I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you.
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you
The holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though
It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah

[tribal10]

i would advise people to wait for the dvd or download....dun waste yr 2 & 1/2 hrs iniside......for me i think it's a nice show coz i read the comic....but most people dunno what;s it's all about and go in and hope to c some superheros like spiderman and superman....but i can't blame them as the tv adv did show it as though it was some superheros movies.

[mee_goreng]

Well, have to disagree with u on that. Zack Synder did a superb job by NOT underestimating the intelligence of the audience and trying to make the abstract and heavy themes from the original graphic novel simple for everyone. It makes me excited to want to share and talk about the movie's ideas with my friends. This movie is bordering between the artistic and mainstream so people expecting another dumbed-down Fantastic 4 can juz skip this movie.

ok i dont know why you claim Fantastic 4 as "dumbed-down", i quite like Fantastic 4 (part 1 not Silver Surfer though)
well if you really want to compare, i dont think it's up to standard of dumber-down superhero flicks like The Dark Knight, that's if you want to compare

in the first place i wont really compare, cos i feel they're just different movies, just that I prefer Fantastic 4 and Dark Knight than this show

[mee_goreng]

It's a show you'd either love or hate.

I loved it, and I really want to catch it again - but there're simply many people out there who'll giggle at the blue penis, and laugh at the soundtrack, and simply not get the complexities of the storyline. People like that should stick to Marley & Me.

you see, i dont understand why you guys get defensive for this show, telling people who dont like it to watch "simple" or "dumb" shows like Marley & Me or Fanstatic 4
if it's a good show like the Dark Knight, it doesnt need to be defended cos majority of people praise it naturally

you guys think its good cos it's your type of movie but unfortunately, it's only a minority of you guys who appreciate it
but you dont have to tell off people who dont like the show to watch "simple" shows or "dumb" shows like Marley & Me or Fantastic 4
what's with the comparing out of the blue?
generally, people may say this show is not nice but the reason may be other than that it is too "profound" for them

for example, i find that it is not nice because i feel the story throughout is not moving, keep revolving and grinding on the past untill towards the end of the show, then it starts moving
even as they talked about the past, it wasnt interesting in the first place anyhow
the character development isnt interesting too

what i mean is, it's probably not about the complexity of the show which people dont like
what they dont like about is probably the story plot and the structure of the story-telling

so no need for you guys to get defensive support for it, unless you tell me you guys are fan boys
maybe you guys can take one step back and look at this show in the eyes of a non-fan then you guys can understand why there're people who dont like it



for me i give it a 4/10, but i definitely wont say dumb people should just watch it
i think it is a very detailed movie, but the story just dont appeal to me thats all

[MatrixFanatic]

AratTMGrHaQ

[Jerry007]

ok i dont know why you claim Fantastic 4 as "dumbed-down", i quite like Fantastic 4 (part 1 not Silver Surfer though)
well if you really want to compare, i dont think it's up to standard of dumber-down superhero flicks like The Dark Knight, that's if you want to compare

in the first place i wont really compare, cos i feel they're just different movies, just that I prefer Fantastic 4 and Dark Knight than this show

Batman is a well-known superhero and The Dark Knight is a mainstream movie. Watchmen is rather obscure and not many people except the fanbase know about it. Like I've said before, Watchmen borders on the artistic and mainstream and has heavy adult themes that may not run well with the younger audience who expect more physical action rather than cerabral action. Fans of the graphic novel will be pleased with the fact that it is a faithful adaption of Alan Moore's well-regarded graphic novel, perhaps except for the ending. To me, Dark Knight is almost a masterpiece and even though Watchmen may be flawed, the movie represents the best comic adaptation there is of the graphic novel and I am very pleased with the entire movie experience. Fantastic 4, on the other hand, is more cheese than substance and the movie is not satisfying, especially the showdown at the end.

[Swordsman]

each to his own, i give this movie 7/10, Fans and those previously unfamiliar with Watchmen should watch with an open mind. read the comic before watching or after watching movie to understand better.

[gumballz]

one mans meat another mans poison... :s7:

[jamesrobinn]

Watchmen for me is my kind of tea. Really nice. Its not for everyone, but its perfect for me. :)

[Krug]

Watchmen for me is my kind of tea. Really nice. Its not for everyone, but its perfect for me. :)

You sure you don't mean it's your cup of coffee? :D
http://www.organiccoffee.com/Nite-Owl-Dark-Roast/M/B001O2KSZA.htm

[Jerry007]

you see, i dont understand why you guys get defensive for this show, telling people who dont like it to watch "simple" or "dumb" shows like Marley & Me or Fanstatic 4
if it's a good show like the Dark Knight, it doesnt need to be defended cos majority of people praise it naturally

you guys think its good cos it's your type of movie but unfortunately, it's only a minority of you guys who appreciate it
but you dont have to tell off people who dont like the show to watch "simple" shows or "dumb" shows like Marley & Me or Fantastic 4
what's with the comparing out of the blue?
generally, people may say this show is not nice but the reason may be other than that it is too "profound" for them

for example, i find that it is not nice because i feel the story throughout is not moving, keep revolving and grinding on the past untill towards the end of the show, then it starts moving
even as they talked about the past, it wasnt interesting in the first place anyhow
the character development isnt interesting too

what i mean is, it's probably not about the complexity of the show which people dont like
what they dont like about is probably the story plot and the structure of the story-telling

so no need for you guys to get defensive support for it, unless you tell me you guys are fan boys
maybe you guys can take one step back and look at this show in the eyes of a non-fan then you guys can understand why there're people who dont like it



for me i give it a 4/10, but i definitely wont say dumb people should just watch it
i think it is a very detailed movie, but the story just dont appeal to me thats all

BTW, I'm a non-fan boy. I've not read the graphic novel even though I've bought it last year. I went into the cinema not knowing much and came out loving it for its visuals and theme. Am definitely rewatching it on blu-ray later.

[PC_Dreamer]

BTW, I'm a non-fan boy. I've not read the graphic novel even though I've bought it last year. I went into the cinema not knowing much and came out loving it for its visuals and theme. Am definitely rewatching it on blu-ray later.


Could'nt really believe that you're a non-fan boy after all the promoting of this show and putting-down of others. Also wondered at how you could have not read and known much about the comic and talked so much about its themes and faithful adaptation.

To me, as a non-fan boy, how close an adaption is, is secondary. A satisfying movie should either be entertaining or memorable. This show did none for me. It tried, like many movies, to do too much at one time. It tried to tell too many histories, yet none of which detailed enough to allow me to develop interest into. And in the end, the story that is to be told lacked punch and concluded the 2 & 1/2 hours building of anti-climax. The show tried, but failed to capture my attention and interest with its story, action and cheeky techniques.

Fan boys may like it for the adaptation, non fan boys might like it for its action and the "300's" techniques but I remain unimpressed.

I give it a 3/10.

[Jerry007]

Could'nt really believe that you're a non-fan boy after all the promoting of this show and putting-down of others. Also wondered at how you could have not read and known much about the comic and talked so much about its themes and faithful adaptation.

To me, as a non-fan boy, how close an adaption is, is secondary. A satisfying movie should either be entertaining or memorable. This show did none for me. It tried, like many movies, to do too much at one time. It tried to tell too many histories, yet none of which detailed enough to allow me to develop interest into. And in the end, the story that is to be told lacked punch and concluded the 2 & 1/2 hours building of anti-climax. The show tried, but failed to capture my attention and interest with its story, action and cheeky techniques.

Fan boys may like it for the adaptation, non fan boys might like it for its action and the "300's" techniques but I remain unimpressed.

I give it a 3/10.

I based my strong opinions on the movie, not the graphic novel. The movie got me thinking about the various themes I lifted from the movie, which are many. I love the movie and will read the graphic novel later. I've already stated rite from the beginning that Watchmen is either a love-it or hate-it kinda movie and I like it more than Ghost Rider and Fantastic 4. I have always tot that F4 is dumb, even without comparing it to Watchmen. U are entitled to ur opinion of coz but I tot Watchmen's ending was very powerful, when Dr Manhattan did what I tot was almost unthinkable for the general good of mankind.

[ixoral]

just watched it last night. not very fantastic imo. The plot is not strong, and it's really not those typical 'superhero movie'. more of like a documenting the lives of the so-called superheroes instead. Just my personal opinion. No offence to watchmen fans :)

[ArtURtlE]

i just watched it last night too...i Thought it was pretty awesome...i read the comics a few years back and i was quite happy zack snyder managed to nail it. It had that sufficient amount of gore and rawness that many superheroes movies have lost and oh yeah did i mention i was so bored with dark knight i dozed off in the midst of the movie in the cinema?. Watchmen's Visuals were perfect, lines were beautifully written and loved the soundtrack ( apart from desolation row that MCR butchered)
would give it a 9/10 :)

[Wzierbovsky]

Well, let me say a few things that didn't work for me though I've already posted earlier on that I liked the movie at large. Minor spoilers, possibly.

I thought the Hallelujah backdrop to that makeout scene was cringe-worthy.

The actress playing Silk Spectre II was just awful.

And not withstanding that, the backstory of Silk Spectre II in relation to The Comedian was given the short stick. But I'm guessing it'll be fleshed out in the extended cut.

I can understand Snyder's decision not to include Ozymandias' squid because it would have required more time to explain, but including that it would have introduced a component that's akin to sci-fi horror.

That in turn also meant that the premise for people getting killed by Ozy's joke would be different. In the movie, it's by the nuclear bomb blast. In the comic, it was (partially) sensory overload. It would have meant a really graphic sequence when Dr. Manhattan and Silk Spectre II teleport back from Mars to New York: people awashed in blood and a nightmarish squid hanging over the theatre LOL.

Last gripe: one of the key scenes at the end of the graphic novel is a couple of wordless panels where the aged Silk Spectre kisses The Comedian in the group portrait. That's a really powerful scene that would had been the perfect ending of the movie (keeping Rorschach's journal coda) as it completes The Comedian's story arc: that despite his brutality and act of rape, the Spectre loved him.

Funnily, I was ok with the removal of the story-within-a-story comic components from the graphic novel. That it'll be released as a separate animated feature was the right decision IMO.

[tigerwoods]

very cool Watchmen Poster Comparison
http://www.plasmicstudio.com/watchmen/poster_comparisons/

[tigerwoods]

I based my strong opinions on the movie, not the graphic novel. The movie got me thinking about the various themes I lifted from the movie, which are many. I love the movie and will read the graphic novel later. I've already stated rite from the beginning that Watchmen is either a love-it or hate-it kinda movie and I like it more than Ghost Rider and Fantastic 4. I have always tot that F4 is dumb, even without comparing it to Watchmen. U are entitled to ur opinion of coz but I tot Watchmen's ending was very powerful, when Dr Manhattan did what I tot was almost unthinkable for the general good of mankind.

comparing Watchmen to Ghost Rider and Fantastic 4 is an insult to Watchmen.

[Wzierbovsky]

Wow - very nifty.:)

very cool Watchmen Poster Comparison
http://www.plasmicstudio.com/watchmen/poster_comparisons/

[secret_boy]

caught it yesterday.....i find it still not bad & watchable......i like the best is Rorschach....in the movie, the way they fight are quite violent & hardcore.....i would rate it 7/10.....

[Iop]

okay. I think that the movie fantastic 4 is a nice show for one very good reason. They got Jessica Alba. Other than that, as a fan of marvel comics, I don't think that the movies did the books any justice.

I never read watchmen before, But after watching the movie, I think it is great. Better than
F4. I admit it requires alot more thinking after the show. Even when I am taking a crap in the loo, I keep thinking that should Dr Manhattan did what he did. And if Oxy was infact really the right one all along.

[Deimos]

watched it, liked it very much \^0^/

not a fanboy , dunno anything abt watchmen before

and to echo something someone said before

some movie deserves a better audience :D

[DenverSuker]

I kind of like this movie........ if you are to pay more attention
to the development of each characters I do think that anyone would find that its not really
a bad show..... its basically about humanity.,..

"Who watches the watchmen?"

[nikeey]

im sorry, the movie was sub-par to me. maybe im too brained-washed out by the spiderman series, batman's uber mind boggling mind games, but watchmen is just not for me. besides the on-cue kissing and the subtle twist of events, nothing seemed impressive. i was lucky i watched the movie paying 7.50. the only character that i really liked was Rorschach, who has depth in his character. THATS ALL! lol

[secret_boy]

I kind of like this movie........ if you are to pay more attention
to the development of each characters I do think that anyone would find that its not really
a bad show..... its basically about humanity.,..

"Who watches the watchmen?"

yup.....i agree wif u.....:)

[upslorry]

Watchmen (other than Rosharch) really falls out of my liking.
Imagine, an almost god-like blue penis who can :

increase in size
split image multi-task
read his past and future
teleport to anywhere in the universe
stay in non-air atmosphere
create protective-shields
move objects
probe human minds
immaterialize himself
destroy matter
shoot ligtning
anti-gravity
also smart and intelligent


can neither lead nor satisfy his wife
unable to stay faithful to his woman
cannot solve the world's problem with his power
unable to stop or at least delay the cold war
never even try to do something
cannot handle his own emotions well
has nothing better to cry than his own wife's cancer/accusations
dare not face the reporters and public
then betrays to kill his good friend who sided with him and used to fight with him
cannot choose between proper right and wrong
almost becoming a wimp hiding away in another planet
wasting time away when people asking him for help
had to rely on pretending to be the world's bad guy
saving the world in his own convenient way


he definitely fails as a hero


then again, we know the Cold War ended without any nukes fired
so the so-called "general good of man-kind" of killing millions to save billions is to serve what purpose other than evil itself?

ya you may tell me the story was written during the cold war so the ending was an imaginative end to it
but then as an audience, a person of modern time, i feel it is outdated and unrealistic about its ending, same feeling as watching War of the Worlds where the super-intelligent aliens die of bacteria

its just how i feel, well
batman may suck and has no power, but at least he tried. Very hard.
On comparing, watchmen seems like a bunch of slackers
Not to mention saving people trapped in the burning building was only a fun outing for them.

Rosharch was the only one good enough for my liking. He too, tried very hard.

[boreboor]

That's the whole point about the movie and the book. None of them are "superheroes". I'm not sure how much backstory the movie covered, but in the book this "masked adventurer" and "costumed vigilante" phenomenon was more of a fad than anything else. Especially with the first generation of Watchmen, I remembered it mentioned how those small-time crooks and villains also took to wearing ridiculous outfits, and how some of them actually loved being nabbed by Silk Spectre I.

Then came along the 2nd generation (pre-Dr Manhattan), where the 2nd Night Owl took over because he idolised the first one and the 2nd Silk Spectre was "forced" into the role because of her mom (the first Silk Spectre). Rorsharch was a new addition, but nobody knew who he was. The Comedian was the only from the previous generation of costumed heroes. Ozymandias joined the team very late, and it was a short while before the Keene act was passed and he moved on to build a business empire based on his own heroic character. And when Dr Manhattan came into the picture, Night Owl began to wonder whether there was still a need for costumed heroes such as himself who didn't really have any powers. Even the "villains" began to tire of this masked fad and moved on to more lucrative white-collared crime without the need of costumes.


Watchmen (other than Rosharch) really falls out of my liking.
Imagine, an almost god-like blue penis who can :

increase in size
split image multi-task
read his past and future
teleport to anywhere in the universe
stay in non-air atmosphere
create protective-shields
move objects
probe human minds
immaterialize himself
destroy matter
shoot ligtning
anti-gravity
also smart and intelligent


can neither lead nor satisfy his wife
unable to stay faithful to his woman
cannot solve the world's problem with his power
unable to stop or at least delay the cold war
never even try to do something
cannot handle his own emotions well
has nothing better to cry than his own wife's cancer/accusations
dare not face the reporters and public
then betrays to kill his good friend who sided with him and used to fight with him
cannot choose between proper right and wrong
almost becoming a wimp hiding away in another planet
wasting time away when people asking him for help
had to rely on pretending to be the world's bad guy
saving the world in his own convenient way


he definitely fails as a hero


then again, we know the Cold War ended without any nukes fired
so the so-called "general good of man-kind" of killing millions to save billions is to serve what purpose other than evil itself?

ya you may tell me the story was written during the cold war so the ending was an imaginative end to it
but then as an audience, a person of modern time, i feel it is outdated and unrealistic about its ending, same feeling as watching War of the Worlds where the super-intelligent aliens die of bacteria

its just how i feel, well
batman may suck and has no power, but at least he tried. Very hard.
On comparing, watchmen seems like a bunch of slackers
Not to mention saving people trapped in the burning building was only a fun outing for them.

Rosharch was the only one good enough for my liking. He too, tried very hard.

[mee_goreng]

That's the whole point about the movie and the book. None of them are "superheroes". I'm not sure how much backstory the movie covered, but in the book this "masked adventurer" and "costumed vigilante" phenomenon was more of a fad than anything else. Especially with the first generation of Watchmen, I remembered it mentioned how those small-time crooks and villains also took to wearing ridiculous outfits, and how some of them actually loved being nabbed by Silk Spectre I.

Then came along the 2nd generation (pre-Dr Manhattan), where the 2nd Night Owl took over because he idolised the first one and the 2nd Silk Spectre was "forced" into the role because of her mom (the first Silk Spectre). Rorsharch was a new addition, but nobody knew who he was. The Comedian was the only from the previous generation of costumed heroes. Ozymandias joined the team very late, and it was a short while before the Keene act was passed and he moved on to build a business empire based on his own heroic character. And when Dr Manhattan came into the picture, Night Owl began to wonder whether there was still a need for costumed heroes such as himself who didn't really have any powers. Even the "villains" began to tire of this masked fad and moved on to more lucrative white-collared crime without the need of costumes.

probably it was the expectation when i stepped into the theatre
i went in the movie expecting the heroes to do something great
end up they did nothing much, so wasted my time i feel
now since you bothered to explain the story, (instead of throwing insults like some others)
i think the story is justifiable

[DenverSuker]

This is how is gather from the moive alone

Manhatten... Viewing the world from n alien point of view..... so he need an reason to save humanity, seeing how cruel man are.

Silk Spectre...someone whom is always seeking approval from her mum...

Owl..... Being a superhero give him a his mojo... his impotency and his needs to talk about the past ..

Ozymandias.. whom willl do whatever it take to achieve what he think as right.

Rorsharch... Viewing the world in only right and wrong ( black or white same as his mask ) ...no shade of Grey..

Comedian.. I think he is the one whom really understand humanity ( weakness to greed and power )

[Deimos]

Watchmen (other than Rosharch) really falls out of my liking.
Imagine, an almost god-like blue penis who can :

increase in size
split image multi-task
read his past and future
teleport to anywhere in the universe
stay in non-air atmosphere
create protective-shields
move objects
probe human minds
immaterialize himself
destroy matter
shoot ligtning
anti-gravity
also smart and intelligent


can neither lead nor satisfy his wife
unable to stay faithful to his woman
cannot solve the world's problem with his power
unable to stop or at least delay the cold war
never even try to do something
cannot handle his own emotions well
has nothing better to cry than his own wife's cancer/accusations
dare not face the reporters and public
then betrays to kill his good friend who sided with him and used to fight with him
cannot choose between proper right and wrong
almost becoming a wimp hiding away in another planet
wasting time away when people asking him for help
had to rely on pretending to be the world's bad guy
saving the world in his own convenient way


he definitely fails as a hero


then again, we know the Cold War ended without any nukes fired
so the so-called "general good of man-kind" of killing millions to save billions is to serve what purpose other than evil itself?

ya you may tell me the story was written during the cold war so the ending was an imaginative end to it
but then as an audience, a person of modern time, i feel it is outdated and unrealistic about its ending, same feeling as watching War of the Worlds where the super-intelligent aliens die of bacteria

its just how i feel, well
batman may suck and has no power, but at least he tried. Very hard.
On comparing, watchmen seems like a bunch of slackers
Not to mention saving people trapped in the burning building was only a fun outing for them.

Rosharch was the only one good enough for my liking. He too, tried very hard.


are u watching "watchmen" or "heros" ?
:D

[deathan9el]

just watched it ytd & thought that it's a pretty "decent" movie overall . pun intended . :o
am not a fan nor knows much of its existence of the comic book tho' its not really that hard for the clueless one like myself to follow thru' whats the story all about .

as what the above had already mentioned ..
yeah ..rorschach impressed me most .

my rate on the movie : 3.5/5

:)

[liuzg150181]

I kind of like this movie........ if you are to pay more attention
to the development of each characters I do think that anyone would find that its not really
a bad show..... its basically about humanity.,..

"Who watches the watchmen?"
Couldnt agree wif u more, despite it being a superhero movie, almost none of them have super-power(except Dr Manhattan & arguably "The smartest man on Earth" with his lightning reflexes), it is really about humanity from different perceptions of the main characters.

Therefore the movie seems perculiar for it ilks, since there's no clear-cut supervillian to go against for showdown(it was in fact referenced in the movie when Ozymandias made a snide remark on comicbook supervillian), and the superheroes dont behaved liked their conventional counterparts, hence the anti-climax which many audience couldnt stomach.

Oso the movie contains some references to philosophical outlook, for example the Comedian's nihilistic remarks, Dr Mahattan's quotation on "watch without watchmaker" in reference to the renowned "Watchmaker analogy",Ozymandias's echoing Alexander the Great's vision of universal world to name a few.

[Jerry007]

Couldnt agree wif u more, despite it being a superhero movie, almost none of them have super-power(except Dr Manhattan & arguably "The smartest man on Earth" with his lightning reflexes), it is really about humanity from different perceptions of the main characters.

Therefore the movie seems perculiar for it ilks, since there's no clear-cut supervillian to go against for showdown(it was in fact referenced in the movie when Ozymandias made a snide remark on comicbook supervillian), and the superheroes dont behaved liked their conventional counterparts, hence the anti-climax which many audience couldnt stomach.

Oso the movie contains some references to philosophical outlook, for example the Comedian's nihilistic remarks, Dr Mahattan's quotation on "watch without watchmaker" in reference to the renowned "Watchmaker analogy",Ozymandias's echoing Alexander the Great's vision of universal world to name a few.

All these ideas, concepts and different perspectives on humanity made the movie so delectable that I could go on discussing about it for days. Definitely a movie to think about and u may need a few viewings to understand some of the motives and intentions made by the characters. Just dun go into the cinema expecting another usual kinda superhero movie.

[kawaiineh]

before i watched the movie, i have zero idea about the plot. but i enjoyed it tremendously. this is definitely not superman or spiderman. rather, it is a reflection of the contradictions and ironies in the real world onto superhero settings. there's no black and white. every "superheros" is contridictory and flawed. in the end, there is no hero, no right or wrong, no good or bad, just dark, ugly, but real world of lies and deceptions.

this is definitely one movie that i'll watch again in near future

[ExK]

I went to watch Watchmen without any prior knowledge of the story. It was just an ok movie for me.

Depending on how you look at it, the premise of some flawed, costume-wearing humans playing vigilante is either refreshing or weird. Sadly, it’s a bit weird for me to see some ‘superheroes’ bicker, rape, brawl, have lesbian sex, shoot pregnant woman and make out in loud, funny outfits. I suppose that’s an allusion to America, who tries to police the world but fails to clean up her own backyard, right?

The story doesn’t flow very well. A centre mystery is regularly interrupted by flashbacks, love triangle and bland make-outs that fail to engage me emotionally. I think it’s probably due to a really bad cast. With the exception of ‘road shack’ (sp?), everyone else delivers a very flat performance. Actually, I’ve never seen that many make-out sessions in a superhero movie before. Hollywood’s ‘head thrusts backward in orgasm’ choreograph is getting too old by now.

It’s not a bad movie, but I’m puzzled that it’s a classic.

[li_chenwei48]

I went to watch Watchmen without any prior knowledge of the story. It was just an ok movie for me.

Depending on how you look at it, the premise of some flawed, costume-wearing humans playing vigilante is either refreshing or weird. Sadly, it’s a bit weird for me to see some ‘superheroes’ bicker, rape, brawl, have lesbian sex, shoot pregnant woman and make out in loud, funny outfits. I suppose that’s an allusion to America, who tries to police the world but fails to clean up her own backyard, right?

The story doesn’t flow very well. A centre mystery is regularly interrupted by flashbacks, love triangle and bland make-outs that fail to engage me emotionally. I think it’s probably due to a really bad cast. With the exception of ‘road shack’ (sp?), everyone else delivers a very flat performance. Actually, I’ve never seen that many make-out sessions in a superhero movie before. Hollywood’s ‘head thrusts backward in orgasm’ choreograph is getting too old by now.

It’s not a bad movie, but I’m puzzled that it’s a classic.

Classic because while the mainstream comics are immersed with idealised superheroes with superhuman abilities and superhuman moral standing who are basically infallible,

Alan Moore's watchmen went against tradition showing that heroes are human too. Everyone has their own ghost which is why we see so many flashbacks.

Saving the world is not as easy as just killing the antagonist and everyone can hug each other at the end of day.
Alan Moore showed us that saving the world may involve sacrifice as did by Ozzy who destroyed a few cities to save the world. This is the utilitarian view, to sacrifice a smaller number to achieve a greater a good. And it also bring about the question "Can the end justify means?"

Unlike your normal comic when there is a clear antagonist from the start to the end of story, watchmen doesn't have any(depending on which ethic view you share). You can say Ozzy is the ultimate villain for destroying cities but you can also say he is the hero for saving mankind, the line here is blurred.

If you are familar with Moore's material you know that his stuff is always very thought-provoking. I know many people here are familar with V for Vendetta which it also by Moore. However it is not only about people's power which is the impression I got when reading the posts in this forum. It is about one's freedom fighter is another terrorist. Here the line is also blurred depending on which side you stand. Eg. If you stand on the Israeli side, Palestinian attacks are considered as terrorist acts but if you are on the other side, you are just fighting for your own freedom.

This is not your usual shallow hollywood movie. There are lot of things to explore in this film. A simple line like "Who watches the watchmen?" brings the idea of unchecked power.

Never for once did my mind wandered off during the film. Great movie.

[upslorry]

I went to watch Watchmen without any prior knowledge of the story. It was just an ok movie for me.

Depending on how you look at it, the premise of some flawed, costume-wearing humans playing vigilante is either refreshing or weird. Sadly, it’s a bit weird for me to see some ‘superheroes’ bicker, rape, brawl, have lesbian sex, shoot pregnant woman and make out in loud, funny outfits. I suppose that’s an allusion to America, who tries to police the world but fails to clean up her own backyard, right?

The story doesn’t flow very well. A centre mystery is regularly interrupted by flashbacks, love triangle and bland make-outs that fail to engage me emotionally. I think it’s probably due to a really bad cast. With the exception of ‘road shack’ (sp?), everyone else delivers a very flat performance. Actually, I’ve never seen that many make-out sessions in a superhero movie before. Hollywood’s ‘head thrusts backward in orgasm’ choreograph is getting too old by now.

It’s not a bad movie, but I’m puzzled that it’s a classic.

it's just weird that if according to the forumers here, these Watchmen arent super heroes, then why are they wearing vain-looking costumes??

They could have wear something like Rosharch's instead of those cloak, stylish suits and mask stuffs which made them look like costume-parties

[Wzierbovsky]

I think the reference to 'super heroes' is in the emphasis of the word 'super - i.e. the characters don't have inhuman abilities like flight, invisibility (with the exception of the Blue Torpedo). They are, rather, crime fighters.

it's just weird that if according to the forumers here, these Watchmen arent super heroes, then why are they wearing vain-looking costumes??

They could have wear something like Rosharch's instead of those cloak, stylish suits and mask stuffs which made them look like costume-parties

[li_chenwei48]

it's just weird that if according to the forumers here, these Watchmen arent super heroes, then why are they wearing vain-looking costumes??

They could have wear something like Rosharch's instead of those cloak, stylish suits and mask stuffs which made them look like costume-parties

I dont know but from my point of view I do think they have some powers.

If you observe Rorschach some of his leaps are just not humanly possible.
Ozymandias speed and ability to dodge bullet at the end of the movie?
The Comedian strength that is can punch through walls and able to survive the hits that Ozymandias was thrashing at him?

All these doesnt look human to be.

[jerichoo]

i juz wasted $6 and 2.5 hrs of my time.

why in the world is that guy's mask changing images when beneath he is juz human?

and why in the world is the love scenes censored? it tries to be an arty farty film and fails in a pathetic attempt.

the vehicle is probably the worst i've ever seen. an air borne submarine that shoots flames and nothing else? why not drive a car instead?

not to mention the horrific acting and cheesy one liners.

that blue guy is so powerful, why the hell doesn't he juz teleport to russia and destroy all the nuKES??!!!

the whole movie was to prevent a nuclear war! and he could juz prevent it by destroyin all the nukes! its as simple.

but one thing was good. the ending. its been a darn long while i've seen a ending that is not happy and i applaud it. i'm sick of happy endings. this is realistic stuff.. kudos to the ending. the rest of it suck to the max..

[Jerry007]

i juz wasted $6 and 2.5 hrs of my time.

why in the world is that guy's mask changing images when beneath he is juz human?

Think u must understand the backstory here. Some forumers did explain the origins of Rorschach's mask though I dun know whether it's according to the graphic novel. Just do a search from the thread.

and why in the world is the love scenes censored? it tries to be an arty farty film and fails in a pathetic attempt.

Why is the love scene censored even though it's rated M18? That u gotta ask MDA.

the vehicle is probably the worst i've ever seen. an air borne submarine that shoots flames and nothing else? why not drive a car instead?

not to mention the horrific acting and cheesy one liners.

that blue guy is so powerful, why the hell doesn't he juz teleport to russia and destroy all the nuKES??!!!

Think it was mentioned in the movie that even Dr Manhattan could not be everywhere to stop the missles when they were launched. U gotta pay attention man. :P

the whole movie was to prevent a nuclear war! and he could juz prevent it by destroyin all the nukes! its as simple.

The movie is not about preventing the start of a nuclear war. Its setting was during the Cold War in the 80s when both the US and the USSR were on the brink of nuclear war. The movie tries to put forth an argument as to whether it is right or justifiable to kill millions in order to save billions. It also presented realistically very humane and flawed superheroes who not only need to fight evil but also the demons within them. The movie also presented different perspectives of humanity through the eyes of these superheroes. If u wanna know more, try reading the graphic novel.

but one thing was good. the ending. its been a darn long while i've seen a ending that is not happy and i applaud it. i'm sick of happy endings. this is realistic stuff.. kudos to the ending. the rest of it suck to the max..

[Wzierbovsky]

It's in the graphic novel.

Think u must understand the backstory here. Some forumers did explain the origins of Rorschach's mask though I dun know whether it's according to the graphic novel. Just do a search from the thread.

[Jerry007]

It's in the graphic novel.

Thx man! Think I must really find time to read the graphic novel. :D

[Seraphim13]

[Spoiler for comic]Imagine if the squid had appeared I think it would have put off even more pple, [End Spoiler]I wonder if Zack Synder had filmed it and will put it into the ultimate collector edition and splice it with the Black Freighter (maybe the 10th year anniversary edition), problem is the show is not as huge a hit.

The comic book was a hard read to start with so I tot Zack did a fairly good job to make it the relatively good movie.

[Wzierbovsky]

Yeah. The monstrosity would have turned Watchmen from a superhero movie into a horror / superhero movie. :s13:

Agreed too on what Snyder pulled off. What he's managed to pull off... that he took what many have concluded as an unfilmable book and turn it into a movie that was not just merely watchable but actually coherent, IMO is on the equivalent of what Peter Jackson did for LOTR. Not that the overall production of Watchmen matches that of LOTR of course, but referring to just the translation from comic book to motion picture, it was an amazing feat.

Though from this thread, not everyone liked the movie. But oh well.:)


[Spoiler for comic]Imagine if the squid had appeared I think it would have put off even more pple, [End Spoiler]I wonder if Zack Synder had filmed it and will put it into the ultimate collector edition and splice it with the Black Freighter (maybe the 10th year anniversary edition), problem is the show is not as huge a hit.

The comic book was a hard read to start with so I tot Zack did a fairly good job to make it the relatively good movie.

[secret_boy]

i liked the movie.......

[Jerry007]

Yeah. The monstrosity would have turned Watchmen from a superhero movie into a horror / superhero movie. :s13:

Agreed too on what Snyder pulled off. What he's managed to pull off... that he took what many have concluded as an unfilmable book and turn it into a movie that was not just merely watchable but actually coherent, IMO is on the equivalent of what Peter Jackson did for LOTR. Not that the overall production of Watchmen matches that of LOTR of course, but referring to just the translation from comic book to motion picture, it was an amazing feat.

Though from this thread, not everyone liked the movie. But oh well.:)

Those who liked the movie really appreciated it. That is more than enuff. I've also heard of people not liking Dark Knight. Guess u can't really please everybody, esp those who saw Watchmen thinking it was something else.

[li_chenwei48]

i juz wasted $6 and 2.5 hrs of my time.

why in the world is that guy's mask changing images when beneath he is juz human?

and why in the world is the love scenes censored? it tries to be an arty farty film and fails in a pathetic attempt.

the vehicle is probably the worst i've ever seen. an air borne submarine that shoots flames and nothing else? why not drive a car instead?

not to mention the horrific acting and cheesy one liners.

that blue guy is so powerful, why the hell doesn't he juz teleport to russia and destroy all the nuKES??!!!

the whole movie was to prevent a nuclear war! and he could juz prevent it by destroyin all the nukes! its as simple.

but one thing was good. the ending. its been a darn long while i've seen a ending that is not happy and i applaud it. i'm sick of happy endings. this is realistic stuff.. kudos to the ending. the rest of it suck to the max..

Dr Manhattan can only stop 99% of the nukes but still that 1% of nuke can destroy the whole world.

[Jerry007]

Dr Manhattan can only stop 99% of the nukes but still that 1% of nuke can destroy the whole world.

Yup. Dun think Superman can do anything to stop that too.

[sevensomerset]

I think this movie is not about showing what superhero can ,
not to promote superheroes worship de lay.

so why compare it with superman?
in fact superman is action movie, this one more like drama type ley,
btw, after watch this, superman movies. fantastic four... those are make for children to watch.
This is like after watch, it provoke thinking wan ley...

haha, many ppl went in cinema with the wrong expectation.

[Jerry007]

I think this movie is not about showing what superhero can ,
not to promote superheroes worship de lay.

so why compare it with superman?
in fact superman is action movie, this one more like drama type ley,
btw, after watch this, superman movies. fantastic four... those are make for children to watch.
This is like after watch, it provoke thinking wan ley...

haha, many ppl went in cinema with the wrong expectation.

Pls read the previous postings leading to my reply which has nothing to do with comparing Watchmen to Superman. :s8:

[li_chenwei48]

Pls read the previous postings leading to my reply which has nothing to do with comparing Watchmen to Superman. :s8:

Yep Jerry was just saying even if you give Superman the same scenario he couldn't have stop the nuclear war much less Dr Manhattan.

[sevensomerset]

sorry my bad,
juz ppl judging it like superheroes action movie is not right... jus my worthless thought...

[ExK]

Classic because while the mainstream comics are immersed with idealised superheroes with superhuman abilities and superhuman moral standing who are basically infallible,

Alan Moore's watchmen went against tradition showing that heroes are human too. Everyone has their own ghost which is why we see so many flashbacks.


To me, there is a difference between flawed and evil. Some of the watchmen strike me as very evil (must Adrian poison all the scientists? cant he just lock them up?), so in the short 2+ hours when I was exposed to the lore for the first time, I was startled by the contradiction in characterisation, and failed to reconcile their noble missions and their true natures. If I'm confused, I'm sure there are others who are also. :eek:

I've no problem with the flashbacks, but I've problem with the flow, on how the flashbacks are inserted into the main story arc. At first I was confused .. how come the silk spectre dyed her hair?? Then I realised they are different people, mother and daughter lol :s22:

[li_chenwei48]

To me, there is a difference between flawed and evil. Some of the watchmen strike me as very evil (must Adrian poison all the scientists? cant he just lock them up?), so in the short 2+ hours when I was exposed to the lore for the first time, I was startled by the contradiction in characterisation, and failed to reconcile their noble missions and their true natures. If I'm confused, I'm sure there are others who are also. :eek:

I've no problem with the flashbacks, but I've problem with the flow, on how the flashbacks are inserted into the main story arc. At first I was confused .. how come the silk spectre dyed her hair?? Then I realised they are different people, mother and daughter lol :s22:

I believe Ozy killed the scientist so as to hide his masterplan just like why Dr Manhattan killed Rorschach as he wanted to leak the truth to the world.

I dont see anything wrong here, cos' as I said earlier it is simply a case of "Ends justifying the means".

"I want to save the world from total destruction and for that I am willing to do anything including killing innocents who might jeopardize the plan"

That sums up Ozy's actions. That's why saving the world sometimes isn't as simple as just kicking villains ass.

In the real there isn't just black and white, there is grey.

[ExK]

thanks chenwei, I appreciate the movie a little bit more :).

[Jerry007]

sorry my bad,
juz ppl judging it like superheroes action movie is not right... jus my worthless thought...

Well, we can't penalise people from having different entry points. Just that I think most people would appreciate Watchmen even more if they went with an open mind and take it as it is. As a non-fanboy, I think this is a monumental achievement for Zack Synder for bringing an unadaptable script to the big screen and I enjoyed every minute of it. :D

Now I'm hoping for a director's cut for the upcoming DVD/Blu-ray.

[li_chenwei48]

Well, we can't penalise people from having different entry points. Just that I think most people would appreciate Watchmen even more if they went with an open mind and take it as it is. As a non-fanboy, I think this is a monumental achievement for Zack Synder for bringing an unadaptable script to the big screen and I enjoyed every minute of it. :D

Now I'm hoping for a director's cut for the upcoming DVD/Blu-ray.

I feel you need to compare it mainstream superheroes genre then you will understand why watchmen is labeled a classic and the greatest graphic novel of all time.

[Jerry007]

I feel you need to compare it mainstream superheroes genre then you will understand why watchmen is labeled a classic and the greatest graphic novel of all time.

I agree and that's what I did. But some felt that it was an unjust comparison. Well, from the kinda discussion this movie has ignited, we can see that Watchmen is definitely no ordinary superhero movie.

[ExK]

I enjoyed 'V for Vendetta' very much, and I think the reason is that, being the only anti-hero in the movie, there is enough screen time to show the good sides and the bad sides of V. On the contrary, compressing the screen times of 4,5 heroes into a short 2+ hours, most of the time only the sunset, decadent or unglamorous sides of the watchmen are highlighted. If the film doesn't build up enough charisma for the characters who pull off 'ends justifying the means', the result would be like Watchmen, which divides the audience, as apparent here.

This is definitely not an easy film to make.

[li_chenwei48]

Watched it the second time and I got a even clearer picture of the movie.

[sevensomerset]

Wah, y watch 2 times?
Paid 9.5sgd to watch it on saturday, though its a gd movie,
Bt 9.5sgd for a movie mk me wonder wats the diff when 4~5yr bk, a movie ticket cost ~6.
Btw, it mk me less guilty bukit timah-ing good movies for collection ;p
Actually, wanna watch it for 2nd time too,
Waiting for uncut or director cut if there's any.

[Jerry007]

Check out this Watchmen Night Owl Ship Blu-ray exclusive to Amazon going at US$83.99! Very tempted! :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wKTHfGZUL._SS400_.jpg

[gumballz]

Check out this Watchmen Night Owl Ship Blu-ray exclusive to Amazon going at US$83.99! Very tempted! :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wKTHfGZUL._SS400_.jpg

oooo...got any special edition dvd boxset?

[kennyboy]

oooo...got any special edition dvd boxset?
get bluray lah....a show like this deserves to be watched in nice HD. :D

[Jerry007]

oooo...got any special edition dvd boxset?

Come come...dun hesitate! Join the blu-ray club! :D

[Jerry007]

From comingsoon.net:

Gearing up for next month's home video premiere of Watchmen and "300: The Complete Experience," Warner Bros. invited Zack Snyder to show off some of the innovative special features that are set to debut with both Blu-ray editions.

Hitting July 21st, Watchmen boasts a new twist - Director's Commentaries with something called a "Director Walk-On". Watching the film in the mode actually features Snyder stepping in front of the screen and offering video insight. Unlike the standard commentary, the video of Snyder can pause or rewind segments that need greater focus as well as link to various featurettes or still images. 300 offers a similar feature, letting the viewer choose one of three different "commentary" modes, either focusing on the graphic novel, the film's production, or the history behind the story.

Though WB confirmed that an "Ultimate Edition" will be hitting later (around Christmas), Snyder emphasized that the July edition's features won't be repeated and that the later release will be a more or less "movie-only" version, incorporating the "Black Freighter" footage back into the film. Though the later set's running time will be the longest version possible, Snyder's preferred cut will be the version hitting July 21st and that that version will contain the greatest special features. While the "Ultimate" version will not include the walk-ons, it will have an exclusive audio-only commentary.

The Director's Cut version of Watchmen will, meanwhile, get a theatrical release the weekend of July 17th in four cities: Los Angeles, New York, Dallas and Minneapolis.

[Jerry007]

Though WB confirmed that an "Ultimate Edition" will be hitting later (around Christmas), Snyder emphasized that the July edition's features won't be repeated and that the later release will be a more or less "movie-only" version, incorporating the "Black Freighter" footage back into the film. Though the later set's running time will be the longest version possible, Snyder's preferred cut will be the version hitting July 21st and that that version will contain the greatest special features. While the "Ultimate" version will not include the walk-ons, it will have an exclusive audio-only commentary.



That's a smart way to get you to double-dip.

[kennyboy]

That's a smart way to get you to double-dip.
the one with more extras buy, the one without DL. :D

They wanna make us pay more, wait long long.

[gumballz]

no blu ray player..so lan lan...wait for dvd...

[enimsaj85]

i didnt really know how to appreciate the movie but it was cool overall :)

[deathan9el]

few mths back me bought the watchmen complete motion comic DVD at HMV .. havent watch it yet tho' . :o

[kennyboy]

few mths back me bought the watchmen complete motion comic DVD at HMV .. havent watch it yet tho' . :o
it's ok, but very very slow. Read the comics much better.

[Jerry007]

From bluray.highdefdigest.com:

Warner Brothers has just officially announced that 'Watchmen: The Ultimate Cut' is headed to Blu-ray on November 3.

The 4-disc set will present Zack Snyder's 'Watchmen: Director's Cut' with the "Tales of the Black Freighter" comic-within-a-comic actually woven into the film for a complete 'Watchmen' experience.

Instead of the Maximum Movie Mode found on the Director's Cut already released, The Ultimate Cut will include two new audio commentaries with Zack Snyder and Dave Gibbons. This release will also include: The Phenomenon: The Comic that Changed the World; Real Super Heroes, Real Vigilantes; Mechanics: Technologies of a Fantastic World; Watchmen: Video Journals; and My Chemical Romance Music Video.

But that's not all, folks. Also included will be the 'Under the Hood' mockumentary as well as the 'Watchmen: The Complete Motion Comic' making for one ultimate 'Watchmen' release.

[Deimos]

haiz.... just received my dir cut not ultimate cut !

cut their head off better

[Jerry007]

haiz.... just received my dir cut not ultimate cut !

cut their head off better

Get 2 versions. Both blu-rays have different content. :D

[caveman89x]

blu ray ! blu ray !

[deathan9el]

hmmm .. any idea when their DVD wud be out here in sg ?
not thru' online tho' . :o