Anyone to test out? Aztech HomePlugs available

[Aztech HQ]

We're offering some HomePlugs as review/trial sets.

Objective:

- To allow avid forum members (especially those hardcore networking fanatics or console gamers =:p ) to experience the ease of using HomePlugs as the easiest, fastest cable-free solution.

How to try a pair of 200Mbps HomePlug?
- tell us why you wanna try it out, and how u going to use it


We have 10 pairs available right now.

[liangtam]

wow, now aztech provides test products :D

[kao]

I was wondering does it use up more power than normal switch ? Or less OO

If not in use does it also consume power ?

[alanchia67]

ofcourse the homeplug consumes power - it's just another networking device but shrink into a small form factor. there's also firmware patches available too for homeplug.

[newbird2005]

Any clauses? Do I have to return after trial or can buy at special price?

[richneo]

yar any special rate or etc after trial?

im going to do test and compare between the other models from other brands

[Aztech HQ]

yar any special rate or etc after trial?

im going to do test and compare between the other models from other brands

Yes. We will surely offer you a very good price after the review. =:p

[richneo]

k count me in den hehehe

[fflover2004]

trying to find a way to stream movies/music via my laptop in my room to my main PC in the living room. as it's near my TV, i may occasionally plug it in there for bigger resolution. of course, to surf internet for the 2 PCs too.

my wireless keep dropping, and i'm constantly in the 1Mbps rage. it's frustrating really. was wondering if homeplug can help.

[tech010101]

How? When? Where?

:yawn:

:s13:

:s12:

[chaicka]

wow, now aztech provides test products :D
Now, someone else finally understand the value and importance of consumer trials and evaluations, esp. trustworthy ones. :)

Good, really good to see the community moving forward as a whole.....

[vitaminc1231]

I actually got a pair before during my IPTV trial. It works I can say. But I did not test out any variance comparing direct cable vs home plug. I do expect some degration since the powerline may be not in good condition.

Quite keen to see any test result.

[haipeng]

Please count me in for a pair or even two! My wireless media player doesn't work as advertised and I'm also intending to setup a media player in the bedroom.

[alanchia67]

how your media player doesnt work? please explain.

[ekin101]

My bro desktop in his room is connected via LAN cable into my room's MIO modem. As the cable are exposed. It will be great if homeplug can removed the unsightly looks of the LAN cable.

[umpimp]

cool i would like to join in too

i would like to try out on

1) m2btv
2) HD stream movies on HDTV any lag....etc
3) lan gaming and game console
4) file transfer rate also check different point any different rate of file transfer

:)

[AS1]

from what i see, for home plug/powerline the direct competitor would be Netgear since Shiro and Aztech are basically the same. Most people will ask for Netgear first rather then other brands..

its good that Aztech is taking the initiative to promote their brand. As much as i would like to review this product, its more interesting to be on the sidelines and see how it develops.

Good luck.

[wellman]

We're offering some HomePlugs as review/trial sets.

Objective:

- To allow avid forum members (especially those hardcore networking fanatics or console gamers =:p ) to experience the ease of using HomePlugs as the easiest, fastest cable-free solution.

How to try a pair of 200Mbps HomePlug?
- tell us why you wanna try it out, and how u going to use it


We have 10 pairs available right now.1. Will this be faster than my wireless D-Link 655?

2. Got an IP camera and a switch. Can this Homeplug connect or it is only direct to a computer?

Right now thinking of alternatives to laying cables for my new house.Thanks.

[seowbin]

wlan is too slow for me... cable solution is too troublesome and messy in my house.....

so i need something which it can go together with my laptop anywhere :D

so do consider me :P

[newbird2005]

from what i see, for home plug/powerline the direct competitor would be Netgear since Shiro and Aztech are basically the same. Most people will ask for Netgear first rather then other brands..

its good that Aztech is taking the initiative to promote their brand. As much as i would like to review this product, its more interesting to be on the sidelines and see how it develops.

Good luck.Ya, Netgear is more branded than Aztech. But, Comparing the retail price between Netgear and Aztech is so much different. Netgear $309 and $248 for Aztech. That lot of different. Not sure about the different in performance.

By the way, I'm using a pair Aztech 85mbps now. Don't mind to try the 200mpbs model. Do count me in.

[imjustakid]

wow just yesterday i was looking for a solution to my unstable wireless connection. some helpful forum member pointed me here. if this can solve my woes of disconnecting from online games do count me in! :D

[alanchia67]

2. Got an IP camera and a switch. Can this Homeplug connect or it is only direct to a computer?


You can connect your IP camera directly to the Homeplug at one end, and the other pair of Homeplug to the switch. Thus you dont have to lay a cable between the IP Camera and the switch.

[alanchia67]

2) HD stream movies on HDTV any lag....etc

:)

I am interested to find out how you setup this. Can share with us what equipment you have?

[alanchia67]

For you guys going to try the Homeplug AV 200Mbps, you may want to book mark this URL
http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-av.htm

It has the latest firmware available for update. Am using 1.4.5 SP2 at the moment and I can see improved performance (comparing factory shipped firmware). Will give 2.0 a try (though sacrificing 1.0 backward support - which shouldnt be a problem if you update in pair).

*warning* dont hold me responsible if the updating process 'clashed' the Homeplug as this may not be endorsed by Aztech.

[praveenkreddy]

Hi i would like to join the test team for doing evaluation of my Singtel IPTV,VOIP (Sipura ATA) and Filetransfer

[xravenx]

i will like to request for a trial unit of the home plug for my home use, as the wireless signal from my 2wire modem from Singtel is not very good at getting through the bedroom doors to my pc/laptops and i am looking for a reliable connection for online games, msn voice and video conference and will like to reduce the hassle of doing network cable wiring for home.

Do let me know if there are any procedures and if you require more information.

[alanchia67]

Hi i would like to join the test team for doing evaluation of my Singtel IPTV,VOIP (Sipura ATA) and Filetransfer

You already have Singtel IPTV installed? Did you choose to use a long Ethernet cable or the wireless access point for the setup (assuming you arent using Homeplug)?

[Shadow_R]

I am interested to try the product and compare it to the performance of my wireless router. Mainly for gaming and downloading stuff. Good job guys, it's good to see Aztech proactively getting feedback and reviews.

[Aztech HQ]

Guys,
Thanks for the good response. Yes, it is the 1st time we're embarking on pure end-user trials. We want to hear YOUR feedback, your results ... simple. :s8:

Due to the overwhelming response, we'll be closing the selection criteria by end this week.
Thus, please hurry.

What we do need from you in terms of info is:
1) How you going to test them?
2) How you going to show YOUR results?
3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

[Aztech HQ]

1. Will this be faster than my wireless D-Link 655?

2. Got an IP camera and a switch. Can this Homeplug connect or it is only direct to a computer?

Right now thinking of alternatives to laying cables for my new house.Thanks.

Well .... hmm.. i do not have D-link's wifi results, can't comment. Look at it this way, HomePlugs is cable-free .. yet .. it uses cable primarily :D We've done plenty tests on our HomePlugs to ensure that regardless of pluggin in extra appliances (hairdryer, vaccuum, etc), the HomePlug still delivers lag-free, reliable HD content to media centers.

Yes, HomePlugs are well used for IP cams.

[fflover2004]

What we do need from you in terms of info is:
1) How you going to test them?
2) How you going to show YOUR results?
3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

sorry, but do you mean we are to answer the above points now(ie. by posting here) to increase our chances to get selected?

[alanchia67]

I think since Aztech is providing this loan set for testing, and surely there'll be more than 10 who requests for it, perhaps the usage and willingness to provide updates on the usage may increase your chance.

If I didnt read it wrongly, you can keep it by buying it at a discounted rate after the test.

[Trees]

Please include me in your trails. I intend to test Home Plug playing multi-user online games Command and Conquer 3. Presently, I am on Singnet 10mbps plan, which is very fast, so 200mbps, I must try!

I also intend to test large downloads form Rapid Share. Please PM me if I am selected, thanks.

[aeng]

Hi,

I'd like to take a pair of Homeplugs on trial.

1) How you going to test them?

I have a Starhub Digital Cable STB and a Slingbox in the living room.
I need to connect the Slingbox to my DLink router in the study so that I can watch my tv overseas on my notebook wherever I travel.

Have tried using a wireless bridge but not successful in configuring it to work.

2) How you going to show YOUR results?

Will post screenshots and pics of local tv programs viewed on laptop while overseas.

3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

Will post my review here in these forums.

[alanchia67]

Please include me in your trails. I intend to test Home Plug playing multi-user online games Command and Conquer 3. Presently, I am on Singnet 10mbps plan, which is very fast, so 200mbps, I must try!

I also intend to test large downloads form Rapid Share. Please PM me if I am selected, thanks.

In case you got the wrong picture - the Homeplug is to extend your home network beyond your ethernet cable. Thus you wont get internet access beyond what SNBB can provide.

[newbird2005]

For you guys going to try the Homeplug AV 200Mbps, you may want to book mark this URL
http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-av.htm

It has the latest firmware available for update. Am using 1.4.5 SP2 at the moment and I can see improved performance (comparing factory shipped firmware). Will give 2.0 a try (though sacrificing 1.0 backward support - which shouldnt be a problem if you update in pair).

*warning* dont hold me responsible if the updating process 'clashed' the Homeplug as this may not be endorsed by Aztech.Interesting....

Solwise same design as Aztech. So, is it manufacture by Aztech or Aztech buy from them?

[leeds82sg]

Hi,

I'd like to have a pair of Homeplugs on trial which I may consider to recommend to my company to use this if the result is good.

1) How you going to test them?

I going to test them in my company which do a lot of high downloading and uploading of large files to and from the server which causing high traffic in our network. Hopefully to try the Homeplugs to see whether it will help.

2) How you going to show YOUR results?

Screenshots and other users' comments of it.

3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

Will post my review here.

[sbkoh]

Is it possible to use Homeplug together with a wireless router? I have more than 1 laptop at home. So it would be good if I can connect some 1 notebook via Homeplug and the other via wifi. It would then be possible to perform speed tests simultaneously.

[carey]

We're offering some HomePlugs as review/trial sets.

Objective:

- To allow avid forum members (especially those hardcore networking fanatics or console gamers =:p ) to experience the ease of using HomePlugs as the easiest, fastest cable-free solution.

How to try a pair of 200Mbps HomePlug?
- tell us why you wanna try it out, and how u going to use it


We have 10 pairs available right now.

Hmmm...I wonder where is that test pair that Martin say he would pass to me? hahah

[liangtam]

Is it possible to use Homeplug together with a wireless router? I have more than 1 laptop at home. So it would be good if I can connect some 1 notebook via Homeplug and the other via wifi. It would then be possible to perform speed tests simultaneously.
Yes. So there is 3 possible ways for you to connect.

[galliano]

Interesting....

Solwise same design as Aztech. So, is it manufacture by Aztech or Aztech buy from them?

FYI, Aztech -20yr old Singapore Company has been selling HomePlugs for quite awhile loh. Under OEM/ODM, Europe and North America is their main HomePlug customers. Not surprise that Solwise is their customer too. Latest news on TODAY, states that they ship 4k of HomePlugs per month.

Side track - anybody got buy their shares? Hot buy a couple of weeks cos of their increasing CAGR.

Glad to see their A&P efforts here. Bout time they do smthing bout branding loh.

[galliano]

Yes, HomePlugs are well used for IP cams.

FYI, I remember got this fren who used a NTUC plastic bag to wrap round his HomePlug. Cos it was in the garden, connected to this house security IP cam. HAhaha.. =:p Prob the HomePlug not meant for outdoor use.

[newbird2005]

Is it possible to use Homeplug together with a wireless router? I have more than 1 laptop at home. So it would be good if I can connect some 1 notebook via Homeplug and the other via wifi. It would then be possible to perform speed tests simultaneously.That's what I'm doing with Aztech 85mbps Homeplug:

1. SH modem connects to Homeplug in my Living room
2. Dlink Wireless router connects to Homeplug and 2 PCs in my Studying room
3. Use wireless for my notebook

Serve me well so far

[umpimp]

Guys,
Thanks for the good response. Yes, it is the 1st time we're embarking on pure end-user trials. We want to hear YOUR feedback, your results ... simple. :s8:

Due to the overwhelming response, we'll be closing the selection criteria by end this week.
Thus, please hurry.

What we do need from you in terms of info is:
1) How you going to test them?
2) How you going to show YOUR results?
3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.


How you going to test them?

1) m2btv
2) HD stream movies on HDTV any lag....etc
3) lan gaming and game console
4) file transfer rate also check different point to see any different rate of file transfer

How you going to test them?

screenshots pics tell the results as for hd video stream i guess need to use video cam to recorde to prove the results .....etc

post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online

we will post our results/comments in results/comments folder

[kao]

Few Q:

1) Can different brands work together ?

2) Does it has limitations on max. no.of units can be used ? 8, 10 or unlimited

tx tx

[richneo]

Few Q:

1) Can different brands work together ?

2) Does it has limitations on max. no.of units can be used ? 8, 10 or unlimited

tx tx
so far i tried 3 brands of 200mbps AV home plug and they dun work together

[alanchia67]

i thought they should if certified under homeplug consortium. could it be 'password' key/pairing network name issue?

[richneo]

i tried liaoz but din work leh

thats why i thinking of doing the test again

[Tartan]

1) How you going to test them?

Online gaming on Xbox 360 and PS3.
Streaming video, both SD and HD video from Vista Ultimate to Xbox 360.
We browsing and raw network performance betwen laptop and pc.

2) How you going to show YOUR results?

opinion, pictures if they work out and data rates where possible.

3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

not a problem.

As a seperate note I asked in the 'where to buy?' forum ages ago about where to buy this kit but did not get a response. I ended up buying some crap netgear kit which i've just left in a cupboard so really keen to get a solution that works.

cheers
Tartan

[richneo]

1) How you going to test them?

Online gaming on Xbox 360 and PS3.
Streaming video, both SD and HD video from Vista Ultimate to Xbox 360.
We browsing and raw network performance betwen laptop and pc.

2) How you going to show YOUR results?

opinion, pictures if they work out and data rates where possible.

3) post your personal (regardless positive/negative) results/comments online.

not a problem.

As a seperate note I asked in the 'where to buy?' forum ages ago about where to buy this kit but did not get a response. I ended up buying some crap netgear kit which i've just left in a cupboard so really keen to get a solution that works.

cheers
Tartan
be it netgear or aztech or etc, their performance should not differ much

[kao]

one question. It says 200 mbps. Does it means it can run at 200 mbps with cat5e or better cables/gigabit switch ?

[tecqueme]

i tried liaoz but din work leh

thats why i thinking of doing the test again
check to see if there is any logo that state Homeplug Alliance on the box. I noticed Aztech one does.

[alanchia67]

one question. It says 200 mbps. Does it means it can run at 200 mbps with cat5e or better cables/gigabit switch ?

no - the actual throughput is much lower.

[liangtam]

The Aztech ish using Intellon INT6000 chip. Wonder what the rest does.

[alanchia67]

netgear isnt using intellon for HD (aka 200Mbps) - it's DS2.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/22/review_netgear_hdx101/

could it be the reason behind incompatibility?

[jhquek]

Any spec sheet for this thingie?

Sounds like an interesting and rather expensive alternative to my 15m cat5e cable.

[alanchia67]

seek and you shall find

http://www.aztech.com/prod_homeplug_hl108e.html

[jhquek]

So where can I signup for the trial?

any max distance between 2 plugs?
can neighbours house link up?

[alanchia67]

you response here for trial.

the electricity meter serves as damper thus cant share between household.

[sbkoh]

Yes. So there is 3 possible ways for you to connect.

Excellent! I can help to test the performance for online gaming. Will write a review here. :s13:

[Aztech HQ]

Yo, I have PMed those selected on the collection details. Please check your PM box. :)

[newbird2005]

Yo, I have PMed those selected on the collection details. Please check your PM box. :)I did not recv your PM. Me not selected:o?

[alanchia67]

I did not recv your PM. Me not selected:o?

Did you response according to the format requested?

[tecqueme]

I think that maybe the reason, as DS2 belong to UPA while Intellon belong to Homeplug Alliance. Not the same standard.

[tian002]

just give me a good price i buy from you. How about that?

[Shadow_R]

Sigh... No PM for me... Looks like must wait for review then decide whether to buy or not...

[shadowandy]

One thing I have been dying to find out. Will it work behind a UPS? Cos I was tempted to get these homeplug devices to solve a wireless dead spot problem and the thought of linking my network core device(s) to the power without a UPS (inbetween) is putting me off.

Would be glad if anybody tell me the answer. I understand that these homeplugs play with modulation but will a UPS strip them out? Or does these homeplugs have surge protection built in?

Anyway if I get to play with them I would test them out myself.

1) testing would be transferring files from my DNS-323 (on gigabit network core) to one of my room's computer (which is in a wireless deadspot). So purely measuring tx and rx speed using application like du meter. Testing the increase in latency by using ping.

2) results gathered will be screen captured.

3) posting of results along with other forumers and perhaps on my personal blog :P

[alanchia67]

I dont think it works behind a UPS.

Anyway, a FAQ for Homeplug 1.0 seems to confirm this.
http://www.gigafast.com/tech/faq/homeplug/index.htm#10

But then, there are UPS built to be compatible with Homeplug. Such as Belkin 800VA UPS W/SFTW.

[shadowandy]

I dont think it works behind a UPS.

Anyway, a FAQ for Homeplug 1.0 seems to confirm this.
http://www.gigafast.com/tech/faq/homeplug/index.htm#10

But then, there are UPS built to be compatible with Homeplug. Such as Belkin 800VA UPS W/SFTW.

Well then it is quite bad. Unless the homeplug comes with a internal surge protector (hopefully those resettable ones).

[molecule]

mr aztech any more trial?

[alanchia67]

Well then it is quite bad. Unless the homeplug comes with a internal surge protector (hopefully those resettable ones).

surge protector in homeplug, to protect what, the built-in ethernet port?

[shadowandy]

surge protector in homeplug, to protect what, the built-in ethernet port?

the computer/device that is connected to the homeplug (thru the ethernet)?

[alanchia67]

the computer/device that is connected to the homeplug (thru the ethernet)?

i can only guess it should be okay, if understanding the faq in url
ftp://ftp.aztech.com/sgp/HomePlug/HL108E%20HomeplugAV%20Frequently%20Asked%20Questions.pdf

Question:
Do I have to worry about an electric shock by the Ethernet?
Answer:
No, you don't have to. The two electric circuits are separated from each other.

[liangtam]

Open up device to look at circuit better :)

[alanchia67]

Open up device to look at circuit better :)

i aint doing that to mine - you wanna try? =:p

[liangtam]

I dun habe it :o

[Aztech HQ]

No worries,

2 reviews here:

http://digital.asiaone.com/Digital/Reviews/Story/A1Story20070710-17800.html

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2007/aztech/homeplug-HL108E-200MHz-Ethernet-Adaptor/g1.htm

+ Silver award - Hardwarezone



Sigh... No PM for me... Looks like must wait for review then decide whether to buy or not...

[galliano]

Geesh. I did not recieve any PMs from Aztech.

Anyway brudders, who is planning to buy HomePlugs this week @ the show?
Probably buy the wireless version IF price is reasonable lah. Was at InvestFair yesterday, saw Aztech booth also and got many people asking about HomePlug itself. :s11:

[newbird2005]

I already have 2 units of Aztech 85mbps Homeplug. Thinking of buying 2 more. Hope there is better discount during Comex.

[aeroblox]

Check out the linksys one la. today digital life got linksys one.

looks quite good and sleek but no pricing.


I already have 2 units of Aztech 85mbps Homeplug. Thinking of buying 2 more. Hope there is better discount during Comex.

[Aztech HQ]

See pictures of Aztech booth @ Hong Kong PC Show last week!

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc135/aztechmarketing/HWZ/DSCF3610.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc135/aztechmarketing/HWZ/DSCF3618.jpg

[aeng]

my review of the Aztech homeplugs:

I am using these to connect my Slingbox (in the living room) to my DLink router in my study.

I have tried using a wireless bridge but couldn't get it to work properly.
In the living room, wifi strength is ok but not that great.
Running an Ethernet cable from the living room to the study is not a good option.
Got these HomePlugs to try.

Setup:
Very simple, just place HomePlug into the wall socket and plug the Ethernet cable into my Slingbox and the HomePlug.

In my study, same thing except I plug into my router.

At first I had used a multi-plug adaptor and put the HomePlug into that. Didn't work.
Rearranged all the plugs and put the HomePlug straight into the wall socket.

Tried again and everything works like it should.

I can now view and control my Starhub Digital cable on my PC and notebook thru my Slingbox.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/245/dscf3358wq7.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf3358wq7.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9612/dscf3357mm7.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf3357mm7.jpg)

Overall, the speed is quite good.
No problems streaming video from my Slingbox over my internal Wifi network at around 3+Mbps sustained rate.

No configuration needed, just plug n play, almost idiot proof.
But don't know why extension plugs or multiplugs can't be used and it has to be plugged directly into the wall socket.

I think I will be getting a pair of these for myself.

ae

update:

been watching my tv from all the way in HK.
not too bad but pic not that great. streaming at abt 350kbps+ only.
but still watchable if u r not too fussy.

[alanchia67]

But don't know why extension plugs or multiplugs can't be used and it has to be plugged directly into the wall socket.
ae

that's a good review. i used to have problems using extension plug/cord with the factory default firmware, but seems fine after updating to 1.4.5 SP2 (now I am on 2.0 anyhow).

[aeng]

haven't had time to rearrange or try out different extension cords and multiplugs to see which works.

right now it does and everything's ok so i'm a bit lazy to tinker (and maybe break things).

anyway, i won't be in singapore so will have to leave it as it is for a while.


ae

[shadowandy]

At first I had used a multi-plug adaptor and put the HomePlug into that. Didn't work.
Rearranged all the plugs and put the HomePlug straight into the wall socket.

Tried again and everything works like it should.


Just curious, is your multiplug those which can "clean" and regulate power? Cos nowadays some multiplug strips filter out slight spikes in the power.

[newbird2005]

ae,

your setup is almost same as me. However, both of my homeplugs are power extension sockets cause I do not have enough wall socket. And, working fine.

[alanchia67]

likely ae's extension has surge protection. does yours has that?

[newbird2005]

likely ae's extension has surge protection. does yours has that?I can't remember but I think dun hv.

[slee76]

I already have 2 units of Aztech 85mbps Homeplug. Thinking of buying 2 more. Hope there is better discount during Comex.

how much for 1pc now?

[Aztech HQ]

how much for 1pc now?

Prices now:

HL105E(TWIN) 85mbps - $128 (2 units of HL105E in a single retail pack)
HL105EW(STARTER PACK) - $208 (1 unit of HL105E + 1 unit of HL105EW in a single retail pack)
HL108E(TWIN) 200mbps - $238 (2 units of HL108E in a single retail pack)

[slee76]

Prices now:

HL105E(TWIN) 85mbps - $128 (2 units of HL105E in a single retail pack)
HL105EW(STARTER PACK) - $208 (1 unit of HL105E + 1 unit of HL105EW in a single retail pack)
HL108E(TWIN) 200mbps - $238 (2 units of HL108E in a single retail pack)

noted. thks!

[Aztech HQ]

Aztech HomePlug Special Prices @ Comex


http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/teckliang/Aztechpromo1_Comex.jpg

[Scuderia]

See pictures of Aztech booth @ Hong Kong PC Show last week!
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc135/aztechmarketing/HWZ/DSCF3618.jpg
HK PC Show prices are more competitive!
HomePlug 200Mbps = HK$410 @ S$82
HomePlug 85Mbps = HK$270 @ S$54

[shadowandy]

HK PC Show prices are more competitive!
HomePlug 200Mbps = HK$410 @ S$82
HomePlug 85Mbps = HK$270 @ S$54


Yeah. I also noticed that HK PC Show prices are more competitive.

[zer0ne]

Good find there! $50+ difference.

[Scuderia]

Yeah. I also noticed that HK PC Show prices are more competitive.
Aztech as a Singapore company should give the locals better discount. It is listed on the Singapore Stock Exchange some more, should give share holders good discount.

[alanchia67]

it's always about economy of scale. not sure will we see homeplug in so many boxes like those in HK event.

[newbird2005]

it's always about economy of scale. not sure will we see homeplug in so many boxes like those in HK event.Ya lor. Look at the boxes that they stack up, Hong Kong shld hv high demand on Homeplug where Singapore is just started

[Redsunns]

Now, someone else finally understand the value and importance of consumer trials and evaluations, esp. trustworthy ones. :)

Good, really good to see the community moving forward as a whole.....

Its the power of EDMW. wahahaha :s12:

[Redsunns]

Aztech as a Singapore company should give the locals better discount. It is listed on the Singapore Stock Exchange some more, should give share holders good discount.

ya... My first PC was Aztech... got discount? wahahahahaha

[galliano]

Ya lor. Look at the boxes that they stack up, Hong Kong shld hv high demand on Homeplug where Singapore is just started

Just came back. Aztech got this BIG board showing off all its HomePlug reviews and newspaper coverages. Got crowded, with people checking out the HomePlugs they pile up. But their booth quite hard to find. Right at the back of the hall6. =:p

Btw, their wireless router was dirt cheap $49.

[liangtam]

Shiro booth ish much bigger. But its strange why both are not placed together.

[Shadow_R]

Shiro booth ish much bigger. But its strange why both are not placed together.I heard that they are going separate ways. Aztech not sold by Shiro anymore. Shiro booth was really bigger, but Aztech booth seems more crowded. Maybe due to the size.

[shadowandy]

The built of the adaptors felt cheap. It's probably due to the weight (it is light) and quite hollow sounding. I do prefer hardwares with robust feel (having a certain mass and solid sounding). Well, I guess it is purely my preference. At the end of the day, if the device delivers what it states/promises, I am pretty fine with it.

The very first thing I did with the units was to hook them up to my 100mbps spare switch. I would hook it up to my Gigabit network when I am doing data transfer test in the near future. Hopefully I would be able to free up a couple of ports on my Gigabit switch.

I attempted to set up the homeplugs without referring to the included manuals or softwares.

For the first unit, I hooked it up to my surge protected power strip. Connected the ethernet cable to the 100mbps switch. For the other unit, it was hooked up to my media server and a free wall power socket. Without any configurations, the setup worked. All the 3 leds (PWR, PL-ACT, ETH-LINK/ACT) lighted up. I presume that as long as all of them lights up, I am good to go.

The very next test I did was to get answer to my question. Will the homeplugs work behind my UPS? The reason for this is that all my network equipments and PC are behind a UPS hence the network is always up and running even in the event of short power outrages. I would want the communication link (using powerline networking) to be up as well. The result? It was quite expected. It doesn't work.


Link (http://www.shadowandy.net/_html/archives/2007/08/powerline_networking.html)

[Aztech HQ]

Thank you Aeng and Shawdowandy for your personal reviews. :)

Its support from you forum members that results in our success @ Comex. Stocks are going out faster than we expected. Big thanks. We hope that with this show, the Aztech name will be associated with powerline networking in the minds of many.

FYI, rest assured that we'll continue to "breed" in this thread even after the show. Do feel free to ask any questions, as we'll surely continue to provide this direct support via HWZ.

Some of the common questions asked:
Warranty: All Aztech products comes with 2 years warranty.

We welcome more personal reviews as well (good/bad).

Thanks.

[shadowandy]

Decided to perform a simple speed test earlier on. The setup are pretty simple.

First test was conducted using the homeplugs and transferring files over my local area network from various devices and systems on my network.

The speed recorded by DU meter is:
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/3777/aztechhomeplugrx01lw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)
55.22mbps with Aztech Homeplugs

Repeated the same test without the homeplugs and keeping the test variables constant. My 100mbps network throughput is as follow:
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2265/aztechhomeplugrx02kd9.gif (http://imageshack.us)
96.83mbps without Aztech Homeplugs

Conclusion
The homeplugs definitely performed worst than my ethernet connection. But it is certainly better than my wireless G!

The good points of the homeplugs are:

There is not a need to lay messy ethernet cables
Performs faster than wireless G
No problem of wireless deadspot



Full entry can be found here (http://www.shadowandy.net/_html/archives/2007/09/aztech_200mbps_speed_test.html)

[Tartan]

Hi,

Well I didn't get picked for the trial so I bought them at Comex today instead.

I've got both adaptors plugged into power surge strips at either sides of my apartment so I can hook up my 360 or PS3 (will get round to sticking a switch in at some point). Initially I had issues with the strip in the lounge and plugging it into a different one fixed the problem. I thought this was quite odd as the original strip is the same as the one where the net connection is being hosted from and it was also strange as my router could see the connected device and the homeplug lights were all good but the 360 and PS3 just would not play ball.

Anyway, they work a treat and when I get a chance i'll try out streaming media across the network and let you know how it goes. Really pleased with the results so far!!!

Cheers
Tartan

[sbkoh]

Thanks to Aztech, I have been using the homeplugs for the past 2 days in place of my wireless G network. Setup was too easy. This has to be the most significant advantage over wireless G - no need to configure anything and no fear of anyone using your wireless network to surf. And of course, good speed. I have just one issue though - the plug is too fat and will not fit on some power extensions if there is another power adaptor on one side, such as ST536v6's power adaptor.

[Tartan]

I guess the alternative is a standard plug leading to another box with the bits and pieces in, which some manufacturers do do instead.

Anybody concerned by the heat these things give off?

[alanchia67]

For my powerplugs, both power strips are well ventilated thus not concerned. I dont hide them like some do within an enclosed cabinet.

[Aztech HQ]

We continue our support here in this thread.

Some common questions regarding HomePlugs.
1) Surge protectors on extension cords/multiplugs may effect the performance of the Homeplug due to the surge circuit implementation. We recieve a feedback during Comex that he was getting intermittant connection. Upon further discussion, it was realise that the extension cord was power surge protected.

[Aztech HQ]

How to maximise your powerline performance - from Personal Computer World (UK, Oct issue)

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/teckliang/article1.jpg

continue

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/teckliang/article2.jpg

[galliano]

Wao!! :s31: Keep up the good ...and "hopefully" consistent support.

[newbird2005]

What is the brand of the Homeplug shown? Swee!:s7:

[alanchia67]

What is the brand of the Homeplug shown? Swee!:s7:

in thread 112? it's a netgear. unfortunately i dont think it's homeplug av compliant/compatible because it's based on DS2.

[Aztech HQ]

Lab test results from Personal Computer World (UK, Oct issue)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/benchua2000/untitled1.jpg

[Aztech HQ]

Shiro booth ish much bigger. But its strange why both are not placed together.

Anybody with more personal test results?

Our HomePlugs did well at Comex (thanks to your support). Any feedback?

[galliano]

Posted on GameAxis too =:p Got the most basic (and I mean basic) set-up for my Playstation3 in my study rm.

Just my 20' Amoi LCD (via component cable) and PS3 with the HomePlug. Sony's inbuilt wifi too crappy.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/teckliang/16092007333.jpg

[alanchia67]

ps3 wifi is ok - the performance depends on wifi router (for example i using 2wire in study room, ps3 in living with no problem).

[quixote2nd]

Thank to Aztech, I'm able to try out the HomePlug on IP surveillance camera setup and compared against using Wireless G setup.
Below are the reports:

HomePlug Setup

Camera:
Axis 213 PTZ camera with highest quality setting possible - 740 x 576 resolution at 25 frames per seconds, using Motion JPEG compression(more bandwidth intensive as compared to MPEG-4)

Network interface:
Aztech 200Mbps HomePlug

Distance:
10 metres

WirelessG Setup

Camera:
Axis 213 Pan-Tilt-Zoom camera with same settings as above

Network interface:
Linksys WirelessG Router - WRT54G (At server side)
D-Link Wireless G Access Point - DWL-2100AP(At camera side)

Distance:
10 metres

NOTE: Commercial or industrial buildings use three-phase power supply - for HomePlug to work, make sure you connect to the same color phase power socket(e.g. if one end is red, then the other end must be plugged into red). There is usually a label indicating the color phase on the power socket

Conclusion:

Surveillance:
Slight delay and jerking in video encountered for wireless G setup vs smooth consistent footage for HomePlug
Controlling camera to Pan-tilt-zoom seems smoother over HomePLug setup
Initial bootup(switch off/on) is slower for WirelessG setup as it takes time for router to establish wireless connection with access point

Installation:
Wireless G setup is not dependent on location of power socket

Reliablility: Power trip or blackout will terminate operations of both. However, for wireless setup, you can run on backup power(UPS or external battery pack) to continue operation

Security:
Wireless G is more prone to cracking - anyone within the range can crack and tap on network + easy availability of cracking tools for WEP/WPA encryption. Not heard of it for Power=over-Ethernet which HomePlug is based on.

Safety:
Growing Concerns on health risk over WiFi exposure
E.g. Germany's Ruling against Wifi
http://environment.independent.co.uk/lifestyle/article2944417.ece

HomePlug - Seems quite hot after extended hours of usage(1 week)

Overall, the HomePlug makes a good alternative for homes/offices who wants a CCTV surveillance system without the messiness of wired connection and the security lapse for wireless connection.
It works woth any IP camera & setup is easy via the configuration of IP addresses

[shengsheng]

hi i have been trying for 2 hours but still can't get my 2 homeplugs HL108 to connect properly.

1. i have a linksys wireless router with starhub motorola model. i plugged the home plug into socket and ethernet cable into linksys router. PWR and ETH green light turns on. PL-ACT has no light.

2. I connect other homeplug to socket and into my desktop pc in the next room. PWR and ETH is on but PL-ACT is not on.

Windows shows "limited" connectivity for the desktop. Internet does not work. I installed the software and could see both MAC addresses in the drop down box, but I cannot find any connected devices.

I used a long ethernet cable to connect the same ethernet ports from my router to my desktop and it does connect well, so it is not the wifi router problem.

See attached network details and screen capture in this file.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/k1ddx4

Can someone help, thanks!

[Aztech HQ]

Hi Shengsheng,

The setup is ok, 1 HL108E connects to the Linksys wireless Router, Router connects to the
Motorola Cable Modem and the other Plug connects to some other computers in the house.

There seems to be an issue with the Homeplugs, it could be a pairing
issue or it could be that the limits between the plugs have been
maximized resulting into plugs that are not communicating.

To troubleshoot, you can check the following,

1. Setup the plugs side by side first and check the PLACT lights.

2. If PLACT lights are on, that means they are communicating.

3. If PLACT lights are OFF, you can do the following.

a. Open the software, Homeplug AV Utility, Click on the Encryption Tab and set the Encryption key, recommended is "HomePlugAV", without the quotes.

b. Click on Apply, the HomePlug will auto reboot.

c. Repeat the same procedure with the other HomePlug

d. Notice that the status bar at the bottom of the HomePlugAV Utility will show the MAC address and firmware information of the plugs connected to the computer locally, this signals the readiness of the Homeplug to accept the command.

4. Check and deploy the other HL108E unit to the intended power outlet and check on the PLACT light, if it's ON, your computer will get the DHCP address from your Linksys Router.

[shengsheng]

Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. I found out the problem. My EXTENSION CORD! Somehow I swtiched to another extension cord and it works. Mine does not have any surge protection so I don't know why the homeplug doesn't work across the extension cord. It's a great product, but somehow my online game still lags. Just wondering, if I set the TOQ for GAMEs optimisation, does it reset everytime i turn off my power?

[alanchia67]

online gaming lag can be due to cable modem (technology).

[Aztech HQ]

Just wondering, if I set the TOQ for GAMEs optimisation, does it reset everytime i turn off my power?

The answer is NO

[Cyberboy128]

The answer is NO

Read in forums here that there is an upgraded firmware for HL105E. I have written to Aztech support but gotten no reply from them. Care to help out? I do not know what is wrong with them but it is not good service by not replying.

[Aztech HQ]

Read in forums here that there is an upgraded firmware for HL105E. I have written to Aztech support but gotten no reply from them. Care to help out? I do not know what is wrong with them but it is not good service by not replying.

HL105E firmware upgrade requires to open up the casing. So, it cannot be done by user.

You may email to support@aztech.com if you are facing prob or PM me your contact.

[avanade]

is there another set available for trial??

have 3 computers at home and
the cabling is driving me crazy...

[chercm]

i am also interested in the trials

[Aztech HQ]

Trial over liao. Thanks for your interest.

[themarxx]

I'm keen on getting the homeplug on my home network. It certainly looks like it can help resolve the problem with poor signal strength from the router provided by a local ISP.

Just one question:

Assuming I only have 2 plugs and one goes into the router: am I able to connect a switch/ router to the other point to allow multiple access?

[alanchia67]

you should be able to connect like this:

router->homeplug1->powerline->homeplug2->network switch->all your network devices

or get a homeplug with builtin switch like this:
http://www.homeplug.org/kshowcase/view/view_item/0ff2214e6ab649ad96970be7b384fefb9abc85dd

[themarxx]

thanks. that looks like just what I need!

[alanchia67]

np, just make sure all the homeplugs you want to use has the same 'version' (aka standard/technology). for example Homeplug AV is a recognized standard.

[bomberman]

btw what is the latest pricing for PLC products? still look pricey..

[alanchia67]

btw what is the latest pricing for PLC products? still look pricey..

what is plc?

[scorpio88]

Hi,

I am using Linksys WCG200 router, may I know which plug 85 or 200 is suitable?

[newbird2005]

Hi,

I am using Linksys WCG200 router, may I know which plug 85 or 200 is suitable?Homeplug does not hv any compatibility issue with any router.

I'm connecting Aztech HL105E (85mbps) between Dlink Router and Motorola Cable Modem (Fm Starhub).

[newbird2005]

what is plc?I think is PowerLine Connector

[Aztech HQ]

Take note:
There are different chipsets used for different HomePlugs. Thus its is highly recommended that you use the same brand across board, for guaranteed compatibility.

Just for info: Our 200Mbps HomePlug has gotten yet another award. This time from PC-Magazine in this month's issue.

Do check it out.
http://www.aztech.com/retail_singapore/awards.html

;)

Thanks to everyone for your support.

[kueko]

Anyone can advise if the Homeplugs are really secure? I believe my neighbors are all connected to the same main power supply. (Similar to cable concept right? Sharing the green pipe?) If my neighbour shares one of the Homeplug, will they be able to tab into my network?

[danxiaogui86]

Anyone can advise if the Homeplugs are really secure? I believe my neighbors are all connected to the same main power supply. (Similar to cable concept right? Sharing the green pipe?) If my neighbour shares one of the Homeplug, will they be able to tab into my network?

IIRC, ur house main switch (dunno if i use the term correctly) act as boundaries for ur homeplug network, ur neighbour wun be able to tap into ur :) do not worry.

[alanchia67]

the electric meter acts as damper thus will more or less eliminate data going out of the home unit. if still paranoid regarding securing, homeplugs has encryption keys you can used for the pair (similar to wifi).

[nicholaslee]

My Homeplug works like this now.


Wall Socket --> 8 plugs Extension stripe with "surge protector" --> HomePlug ----------POWERLINE---------> Wall socket --> HomePlug


It works without any problems! :D

[alanchia67]

My Homeplug works like this now.


Wall Socket --> 8 plugs Extension stripe with "surge protector" --> HomePlug ----------POWERLINE---------> Wall socket --> HomePlug


It works without any problems! :D

yeah, my current homeplug is also plugged to a extension strip which i think has a surge protector. it works too.

[rinni]

hi, i've read some mixed reviews about the 105E. so i'm wondering how does it actually fare?

i have in total 3 PCs. the main rig is wired to the router, the laptop is on wireless. i would like to use the homeplug on the 3rd PC. the main rig and laptop is often on BT. so i'm wondering if the 105E would be sufficient for the 3rd PC, which will mainly be used for web surfing..

[Aztech HQ]

hi, i've read some mixed reviews about the 105E. so i'm wondering how does it actually fare?

i have in total 3 PCs. the main rig is wired to the router, the laptop is on wireless. i would like to use the homeplug on the 3rd PC. the main rig and laptop is often on BT. so i'm wondering if the 105E would be sufficient for the 3rd PC, which will mainly be used for web surfing..

You need a pair of HL105E:
- 1 unit to your router
- 1 unit to your 3rd PC

HL105E is 85mbps. The bandwidth is more than your internet speed unless you are using SH 100mbps plan.

[abstractthoughts]

hi, just posted this at the sitex forums. do you have special deals for powerline adaptors?

[Aztech HQ]

hi, just posted this at the sitex forums. do you have special deals for powerline adaptors?

We are in Sitex Hall 6 (booth 6E56A)

Offering below:

HL105E (Twin pack) - $114.90
HL105E + HL105EW - $184.90
HL108E (Twin pack) - $218.90

[steventay]

can homeplug use in private house 3 floors... heard the power are different in different floor..

[Niaoson]

How about for an additional HL105E?

[aeroblox]

How about for an additional HL105E?
sell only in pair...

Flyer promos:
http://www.aztech.com/retail_singapore/images/singapore_sitex.gif

[worksucks]

WOW...

there is a market for PLC products?

I thought PLC was an oprhan technology esp in a small, constructed broadband market like Spore's.

[rinni]

purchased the HL105E, freaking easy to use.

so far so good.. quite happy with it

[newbird2005]

purchased the HL105E, freaking easy to use.

so far so good.. quite happy with itya, even my 9yrs old daughter oso can install:s22:

[mambo10]

SLS or Funan got sell this?? same offer?? thx

[gray]

Not sure whether this makes sense, was just thinking whether it is possible to use home plugs with an external harddisk with ethernet port? i.e. one home plug connected to the modem, the modem itself is a router, and connected to a PC. The other home plug is connected to an external hard disk. Will the PC be able to access the files on the external hard disk this way?

[mingming2]

yes, it is possible if i understood correctly your setup as below.

external hd <-> homeplug <-> powerline <-> homeplug <-> modem <-> PC

[Niaoson]

Need help with my new homeplug wireless.

i tried using the mac filter. enabled it and tried to block myself from using it but i can still access the wireless and surf the net. enabled it and tried to allow access to only my laptop but my cousin's could access it too. disabled it and of course, everyone could use it.

tried it with and without WEP security, offed and on-ed the plug each time i switched the settings, maked sure i clicked save, restarted the homeplug from the web interfact but still doesn't work.

however, there was once i tried only letting my laptop in. sure, my cousin's couldn't use the wireless but neither could i.

in other words, the mac filter feature seems to be non functional.

i've exhausted all my ideas. can aztech help? or someone please?

[nicholaslee]

Hi guys,

Credit to "sunsetbay" bro who loaned me his power meter
http://www.myimghost.com/img/d61e2227d206d6cbcef13d6dc43ecdf6/powermeter02.jpg

I did a test on these homdplugs when they were on idle, it actually showed 0 watts! Meaning to say this device actually is very very very low power consumption during idle mode!!

To proof that the meter is not faulty, I went to power up a bulb and yep~ it showed 7 watts. :D

but am too lazy to measure how much electricity will it consume while it is running la :s22:

[AttentioN]

Hi guys,

Credit to "sunsetbay" bro who loaned me his power meter
http://www.myimghost.com/img/d61e2227d206d6cbcef13d6dc43ecdf6/powermeter02.jpg

I did a test on these homdplugs when they were on idle, it actually showed 0 watts! Meaning to say this device actually is very very very low power consumption during idle mode!!

To proof that the meter is not faulty, I went to power up a bulb and yep~ it showed 7 watts. :D

but am too lazy to measure how much electricity will it consume while it is running la

Wow.. I have the same device too :D bought from ebay for only $45 including shipping. Very very useful for use around household. However, it is not as accurate as industrial grade ones which can cost above $150 SGD. But this is good enough to get a rough measurement. :)

[liangtam]

Errm, 220w for ur rig seems to be dubious leh.
I still prefer a multimeter for current measurement, followed by P = IV formula.

[AttentioN]

Errm, 220w for ur rig seems to be dubious leh.
I still prefer a multimeter for current measurement, followed by P = IV formula.

Why not? you didnt ask what is connected to the power line. It may well be a 60w filament bulb, big speakers, starhub STB etc etc. The figures are quite accurate.

[Chopperz]

this product released in 2007 ? now then i know of the elite product :s22:

[MrJacky]

this product released in 2007 ? now then i know of the elite product :s22:
Wow is there really a need for you to bring up a year old's topic?