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converse2010
01-11-2007, 11:50 PM
Hi guys, helping my dad to post this thread.

My dad currently want to change from his Toyota Wish to Toyota Estima.

But the problem is, we like what we saw in Estima Aeras, but main problem is that my dad wants the Aeras comes with center row of seats which is so called 8 seater.

We went to a few PIs and they do not have any Aeras with 8 seater, any other good PIs that has got Aeras 8seater ?
XiaoMan
02-11-2007, 01:26 AM
think u have to call more PI to check. There are some many PI. Did u try Richburg(although I think price is at high side)?

http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/P10007.php
ben0704
02-11-2007, 09:32 AM
your dad want ready stock? if he can wait, i can help him to indent the car into singapore. :)
converse2010
02-11-2007, 11:15 AM
My dad wants an immediate delivery i guess. :)

Haven try RichBurg before, is it good ?
xertini
02-11-2007, 11:19 AM
saw alot of aeres estima was PI from richburg, the reputation quite well known
flapdoodle
02-11-2007, 11:20 AM
My dad wants an immediate delivery i guess. :)

Haven try RichBurg before, is it good ?

Richburg is decent, as long as you're willing to pay the slight premium.

I'd avoid the 2.4L variant with the CVT transmission, its performance is abysmal.
XiaoMan
02-11-2007, 03:29 PM
Richburg is decent, as long as you're willing to pay the slight premium.

I'd avoid the 2.4L variant with the CVT transmission, its performance is abysmal.


CVT save petrol mah. Think performance quite ok lar.

I remembered Richburg, the only PI, can send their cars to Borneo Motors for servicing.
flapdoodle
02-11-2007, 04:18 PM
CVT save petrol mah. Think performance quite ok lar.

I remembered Richburg, the only PI, can send their cars to Borneo Motors for servicing.

I've driven both the 3.5 6AT as well as the 2.4 CVT up north to Sepang, all I can say is the CVT was a pain.
xertini
02-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Lol, care to share the pain?? about CVT
flapdoodle
02-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Lol, care to share the pain?? about CVT

Overtaking was a pain as the downshifts are retarded resulting in frustration and unneccessary exposure to the traffic on the overtaking lane.
converse2010
02-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Overtaking was a pain as the downshifts are retarded resulting in frustration and unneccessary exposure to the traffic on the overtaking lane.
Really that serious ?

How's the performace compared to Wish Pre-FL ?
flapdoodle
02-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Really that serious ?

How's the performace compared to Wish Pre-FL ?

Estima and Wish are in totally different leagues.

Can't compare apples and oranges.

Estima in all sense of the word is superior to the Wish in MPV terms, better comfort (cabin and ride NVH is good), better performance (2.4 is rather thrifty but with sufficient power for urban use), better in-cabin amenities (seats are more comfortable, superb leg room, flexible interior configuration), better access design (automated sliding doors and low platform height is a bonus).
XiaoMan
02-11-2007, 07:58 PM
Overtaking was a pain as the downshifts are retarded resulting in frustration and unneccessary exposure to the traffic on the overtaking lane.

The key is the capacity not the transmission. A 3.5l generated more torque/Hp than a 2.4l.
xertini
02-11-2007, 10:38 PM
xiaoman i think you should do a google about auto gearbox.. Cvt was Fuel saving, but flap said that the gears was retarded, that will not bother till the capacity of the engine..
converse2010
02-11-2007, 10:43 PM
Estima and Wish are in totally different leagues.

Can't compare apples and oranges.

Estima in all sense of the word is superior to the Wish in MPV terms, better comfort (cabin and ride NVH is good), better performance (2.4 is rather thrifty but with sufficient power for urban use), better in-cabin amenities (seats are more comfortable, superb leg room, flexible interior configuration), better access design (automated sliding doors and low platform height is a bonus).
Okay, most prolly my dad will go for the 2.4 version, X model.
xertini
02-11-2007, 10:46 PM
But converse, 1st thing is ur father like it.. But for sg 2.4 is enuff liao unless he is going m'sia every week.. 3.5cc is a waste of money, be it road tax, fuel etc.
XiaoMan
02-11-2007, 11:40 PM
xiaoman i think you should do a google about auto gearbox.. Cvt was Fuel saving, but flap said that the gears was retarded, that will not bother till the capacity of the engine..

retarded? CVT don't have a set of gears. I think u have to read more on CVT and its advantages. Disadvantage of course is its inability to handle high torque due to its design limitation. Estima with its over 2 tonnes weight, even 2.4l manual transmission, u can't expect much from it.
xertini
03-11-2007, 12:30 AM
Hmm, i really dont know much about cvt, but u should ask flap for more info as he did test drive long distance with estima b4..
flapdoodle
03-11-2007, 01:09 AM
retarded? CVT don't have a set of gears. I think u have to read more on CVT and its advantages. Disadvantage of course is its inability to handle high torque due to its design limitation. Estima with its over 2 tonnes weight, even 2.4l manual transmission, u can't expect much from it.

There's a reason why the 3.5 was mated to the conventional automatic transmission, the torque.

CVT is as its abbreviation suggests, continuously variable, the slippage and restricted rate of change in the ratios results in poor response.

The previous model saw the 2.4 with a conventional automatic transmission and I can safely say its more assuring compared to the current CVT when you need to floor it.
converse2010
03-11-2007, 12:19 PM
But converse, 1st thing is ur father like it.. But for sg 2.4 is enuff liao unless he is going m'sia every week.. 3.5cc is a waste of money, be it road tax, fuel etc.
He does goes to Malaysia, but not that frequent, say once in a few months ?

And mostly going to KL :D
converse2010
04-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Oh yea, one last thing I wanna ask is that, does the X model comes with HID ?
flapdoodle
04-11-2007, 03:26 PM
Oh yea, one last thing I wanna ask is that, does the X model comes with HID ?

Its an optional extra, IIRC.
converse2010
04-11-2007, 08:12 PM
Its an optional extra, IIRC.
Oh okay, might nego with that dealer to give HID or top up abit :D

And one more question, is the meter same as the Aeras with optitron ?

Cos that SA told me that it's the same, also optitron anot not analogue ?
flapdoodle
05-11-2007, 10:27 AM
Oh okay, might nego with that dealer to give HID or top up abit :D

And one more question, is the meter same as the Aeras with optitron ?

Cos that SA told me that it's the same, also optitron anot not analogue ?

The current X model does have Optitron meters as a, IIRC.
converse2010
05-11-2007, 09:43 PM
The current X model does have Optitron meters as a, IIRC.
Thanks flapdoodle, for enlighten me so many things on Estima that my dad is getting.

:D
converse2010
05-11-2007, 09:48 PM
BTW, do you know any local SG Estima club ?
flapdoodle
06-11-2007, 11:00 AM
BTW, do you know any local SG Estima club ?

None.

If you're interested in getting your Estima all jazzed up, I suggest you visit, William @ Naga Motor, 162 Yio Chu Kang Road.

He used to have the most outrageous Estima Aeras locally, a multiple custom show winner.

Here's the link (http://www.duke.com.sg/ours.html) to his previous (2.4 Aeras) and current (3.5 V6 Aeras).
suakukia
06-11-2007, 11:27 AM
Oh okay, might nego with that dealer to give HID or top up abit :D
If you get the dealer to give HID, he might pop in an aftermarket kit, and that's illegal too.
converse2010
07-11-2007, 11:54 PM
If you get the dealer to give HID, he might pop in an aftermarket kit, and that's illegal too.
Yea, that's what the dealer told me, anyway, awaiting for loan approval. :D
mikeeeey
15-11-2007, 07:46 PM
LECO at ubi there got 8seater aeras..

my dad got one from them. nice service.

love the original bodykit of aeras.. really make it looks very much from the X model
converse2010
27-11-2007, 12:09 AM
LECO at ubi there got 8seater aeras..

my dad got one from them. nice service.

love the original bodykit of aeras.. really make it looks very much from the X model
Ok, abit of thread digging here.

So after almost one month, my dad and the dealer finally settle down on buying, cos past few wks was either downpayment not enough, or dad went overseas or SE on leave...

I guess now is awaiting the bank's call to verify the loan.
mikeeeey
28-11-2007, 07:49 PM
cool... what color ur dad getting?
suakukia
28-11-2007, 07:59 PM
Ooh. Color and Model?

Aeras i suppose?

:D
converse2010
29-11-2007, 01:02 PM
X Model with Moon roof, Silver colour.

:(

Wanted the Aeras... :(
debadgeda6
17-03-2008, 04:42 PM
BTW, do you know any local SG Estima club ?


I'm trying to set it up.. Looking for members. Interested please PM me with email address. Thanks!
converse2010
18-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Bro, PM sent already.

And BTW, my dad din get the X model, instead he went to another company and get Aeras, moonroof and pearl white. :D
shin_girl
15-04-2008, 01:27 PM
after much sourcing...... i got the estima aeras too last week...... in cng.... but i guess the convertion took so time....

cant wait.... =)
debadgeda6
26-06-2008, 07:44 AM
Join the Singapore Previa Estima Club (S.P.E.C.) here -> www.f1-0.com !
gohsj89
26-06-2008, 10:01 AM
what's IIRC

any y pple all go estima and not previa ner?
debadgeda6
26-06-2008, 10:21 AM
Estima 3rd row seats can fold into the floor board. Previa cannot.
debadgeda6
02-07-2008, 06:41 PM
what's IIRC

any y pple all go estima and not previa ner?

IIRC - If I remember correctly.
canopus88
07-07-2008, 11:08 PM
Today went to S**auto to look at Aeras CNG and was quoted
$96.8 k (same for both 7 or 8 seater) . Is this price reasonable? The terms and conditions require at 70% loan for 7 years. I was also advised that if I want to fully cash out, then jus need to pay another 3210, not too sure if this is a good deal though? Read from SPEC that some of the member had some argument with S**Auto. Btw, the lead time is 4 months includin 2 months wait for CNG conversion.

If u guys have better lobang do tell me about it, I am quite sick of my Wish as I have driven both FL and NFL for the last 4 years. ;)
debadgeda6
07-07-2008, 11:31 PM
Today went to S**auto to look at Aeras CNG and was quoted
$96.8 k (same for both 7 or 8 seater) . Is this price reasonable? The terms and conditions require at 70% loan for 7 years. I was also advised that if I want to fully cash out, then jus need to pay another 3210, not too sure if this is a good deal though? Read from SPEC that some of the member had some argument with S**Auto. Btw, the lead time is 4 months includin 2 months wait for CNG conversion.

If u guys have better lobang do tell me about it, I am quite sick of my Wish as I have driven both FL and NFL for the last 4 years. ;)

I think you will have a far greater chance of getting an answer at SPEC. And iirc, the arguement is not with Sun Auto, it's another dealer.