Honda Civic 1800cc

[earthyblue]

Any reviews on this make? How do you guys find it? Me intend to change to this car early next year.

4 mths back went to take a seat in the showroom, didn't quite like the interior. The exterior is nice. However when I went to take a seat in the 1300cc Hybrid model, its comfort. Later on the salesgirl told me its because the Hybrid is assembled in Japan, thats why uphostery etc are all better and feel of the car also better.

Another 2 more makes I am thinking of is Toyota Mark X (A bit beng-ish) and Toyota Camry G(parallel)

Have a penchant for parallel cars because the toyota ones are assembled in Japan and when you sit in it, feels more comfort than Toyota Camry 2.0 and 2.4

[soumayuki]

jdm civic 1.8G with hid 80k
toyota camry 2.4G 92k

mark X FC very high because of the v6 engine.

[s7460597]

i assume you went to kah since you mentioned the hybrid.
the 1.8 vti-s is also made in japan, the leather, radio/cd are factory installed.

i thought the interior of the hybrid and the 1.8 are the same? the only difference i know is in the display to show if the batt is being used and how efficient it's running.

i like the mark x. hate the huge transmission hump at the rear which makes it only a 2 seater at the back despite it being quite a big car.

maybe you should hold on and check out the new accord 08 which should be coming out very soon. it's suppose to be more roomy than the camry!

not sure what you are looking at but hard to compare the civic 1.8 with mark x and camry. different cars altogether.

btw i drive 1.8 vt-s auto. very happy with it still. got it in oct 06.

[flapdoodle]

Any reviews on this make? How do you guys find it? Me intend to change to this car early next year.

4 mths back went to take a seat in the showroom, didn't quite like the interior. The exterior is nice. However when I went to take a seat in the 1300cc Hybrid model, its comfort. Later on the salesgirl told me its because the Hybrid is assembled in Japan, thats why uphostery etc are all better and feel of the car also better.

Another 2 more makes I am thinking of is Toyota Mark X (A bit beng-ish) and Toyota Camry G(parallel)

Have a penchant for parallel cars because the toyota ones are assembled in Japan and when you sit in it, feels more comfort than Toyota Camry 2.0 and 2.4

The FD Civics are generally a great drive for an FWD, its built quality is amongst the better ones offered by Japanese marques in the same category.

[flapdoodle]

jdm civic 1.8G with hid 80k
toyota camry 2.4G 92k

mark X FC very high because of the v6 engine.

High fuel consumption on the Mark X? Subjective.

I had a Mark X for testing and evaluation over a 3 month period, mixed urban/freeway consumption was between 12~14km/l, which is decent for a 2.5L V6 unit.

Your right foot determines the mileage returns per litre of fuel. With a right heavy foot, I only manage 8km/L on the 1.5L Mazda 2 SP and 12km/L on a 1.4L i-DSI Honda Jazz.

[cscs3]

Any reviews on this make? How do you guys find it? Me intend to change to this car early next year.

4 mths back went to take a seat in the showroom, didn't quite like the interior. The exterior is nice. However when I went to take a seat in the 1300cc Hybrid model, its comfort. Later on the salesgirl told me its because the Hybrid is assembled in Japan, thats why uphostery etc are all better and feel of the car also better.

Another 2 more makes I am thinking of is Toyota Mark X (A bit beng-ish) and Toyota Camry G(parallel)

Have a penchant for parallel cars because the toyota ones are assembled in Japan and when you sit in it, feels more comfort than Toyota Camry 2.0 and 2.4


Only one comment. Over priced!

[alvinaloy]

Ya, the interior of the 1.8 and Hybrid should be the same. Only some very minor differences. Unless you tried the 1.6 instead.

[earthyblue]

Actually I am very impressed with the Honda Civic's Hybrid's rim plates. One look and that is the difference for Hybrid. Cool!!!

I actually went to Kah Motors to take a sit in the cars 2 months back then. Went in Civic 2.0, 1.8, 1.6

Didn't quite like it then, like not very comfy. So went to sit in the Hybrid, was surprised quite comfy and feels better. Even my sister thought so too. Then the salesgirl told me only Hybrid is assembled in Japan.

Went for the Accord as well, but overall still lose out to Camry's spaciousness. (but that was 2 months back then) If supposedly the new Accord 08 is coming out soon, must go and test test liao

Today saw the straits times with the new Honda Civic 1.8 2008 version. Hmmm, maybe time for me to go down showroom and take a look again.

If Mark X can have a FC of 12-14km/l, then it is considered quite low consumption already. Anything above 11km/l I think is fuel efficient :o

My requirement in driving a car is it must be comfort in the inside and not a drinker. Nissan, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, all I driven before liao. Honda(not including during my learning licence days) haven't try yet. So preference is on Honda. Camry, my sister said I look ah pek if I drive it. hehehe

[ahtea]

Any reviews on this make? How do you guys find it? Me intend to change to this car early next year.

4 mths back went to take a seat in the showroom, didn't quite like the interior. The exterior is nice. However when I went to take a seat in the 1300cc Hybrid model, its comfort. Later on the salesgirl told me its because the Hybrid is assembled in Japan, thats why uphostery etc are all better and feel of the car also better.

Another 2 more makes I am thinking of is Toyota Mark X (A bit beng-ish) and Toyota Camry G(parallel)

Have a penchant for parallel cars because the toyota ones are assembled in Japan and when you sit in it, feels more comfort than Toyota Camry 2.0 and 2.4
Does that mean the Civic 1.8L is not assembled in Japan?

[vblues]

Actually I am very impressed with the Honda Civic's Hybrid's rim plates. One look and that is the difference for Hybrid. Cool!!!

I actually went to Kah Motors to take a sit in the cars 2 months back then. Went in Civic 2.0, 1.8, 1.6

Didn't quite like it then, like not very comfy. So went to sit in the Hybrid, was surprised quite comfy and feels better. Even my sister thought so too. Then the salesgirl told me only Hybrid is assembled in Japan.

Went for the Accord as well, but overall still lose out to Camry's spaciousness. (but that was 2 months back then) If supposedly the new Accord 08 is coming out soon, must go and test test liao

Today saw the straits times with the new Honda Civic 1.8 2008 version. Hmmm, maybe time for me to go down showroom and take a look again.

If Mark X can have a FC of 12-14km/l, then it is considered quite low consumption already. Anything above 11km/l I think is fuel efficient :o

My requirement in driving a car is it must be comfort in the inside and not a drinker. Nissan, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, all I driven before liao. Honda(not including during my learning licence days) haven't try yet. So preference is on Honda. Camry, my sister said I look ah pek if I drive it. hehehe

All the Civics are made in Japan.

[marlerocks]

you wont go wrong with a honda civic, the paddle shifts on the 1.8 is GREAT!

[vblues]

I'll be collecting my Civic 2.0Si on the 27th or 28th. Been waiting too damn long liao. :s27:

[alvinaloy]

Actually I am very impressed with the Honda Civic's Hybrid's rim plates. One look and that is the difference for Hybrid. Cool!!!

I actually went to Kah Motors to take a sit in the cars 2 months back then. Went in Civic 2.0, 1.8, 1.6

Didn't quite like it then, like not very comfy. So went to sit in the Hybrid, was surprised quite comfy and feels better. Even my sister thought so too. Then the salesgirl told me only Hybrid is assembled in Japan.

Went for the Accord as well, but overall still lose out to Camry's spaciousness. (but that was 2 months back then) If supposedly the new Accord 08 is coming out soon, must go and test test liao

Today saw the straits times with the new Honda Civic 1.8 2008 version. Hmmm, maybe time for me to go down showroom and take a look again.

If Mark X can have a FC of 12-14km/l, then it is considered quite low consumption already. Anything above 11km/l I think is fuel efficient :o

My requirement in driving a car is it must be comfort in the inside and not a drinker. Nissan, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, all I driven before liao. Honda(not including during my learning licence days) haven't try yet. So preference is on Honda. Camry, my sister said I look ah pek if I drive it. hehehe
The salesgirl must be bull****ting you. All Civics are made in Japan. Slight difference for the 1.6 where the leather seats are fitted locally.

Anyway, the 2008 Civic is still the same look and feel. Honda only included more features like boot release button in the key, cruise control, etc in all the models now.

I'm driving the Hybrid now and am very satisfied with it. Collected it about 3 weeks back.

[earthyblue]

The salesgirl must be bull****ting you. All Civics are made in Japan. Slight difference for the 1.6 where the leather seats are fitted locally.

Anyway, the 2008 Civic is still the same look and feel. Honda only included more features like boot release button in the key, cruise control, etc in all the models now.

I'm driving the Hybrid now and am very satisfied with it. Collected it about 3 weeks back.

The good thing about Hybrid on paper is the Fuel Consumption. Because of its 1.3 status, cheaper road tax too. I think the Hybrid Rim plates are very very nice. And the interior somehow looks better than the Normal Civics

I also think the salesgirl trying to smoke me. =:p
Seriously, I do have a question regarding your Hybrid. Is it really Fuel Efficient? For the past 3 weeks, do you mind sharing with us how much Fuel consumption have you used? I read some reviews that on paper it saves Fuel, but in real situations, about the same as normal cars.

[gogreen]

I agree with earthyblue. the sales staff are either not trained in their product or trying to bluff. I asked about the NiMH battery, the sales staff correct me and said it is a Lithium Ion type. As petrol prices are on the rise, I also checked on the type of OCTANE level that the 1300 cc engine could take. I was informed that the hybrid could only take 95 or better. When I checked the brochures, it clearly states 92 or better.

Alvinaloy,

I am about to buy the CIVIC HYBRID. May I check with you the km per litre that you clocked from day 1? I know it will depend on the way we drive, the road we travel. perhaps, just let us know how many % on highway and km/l. Thank you.

Oh yes. 1 more question. Are you telling us that your CIVIC HYBRID is fitted with cruise control?

I am not so happy that the CIVIC HYBRID comes with drum brakes at the rear.

[alvinaloy]

Well, I'm using the FC meter in the Hybrid as a measure but I hear that actual figures (if you calculate manually) are actually slightly better than what the meter reads. So far, my 1st 1000km is average of 14.4km/L. Calculating my 2nd tank of petrol works out to around 16.55km/L. But well, I don't drive conservatively all the time (my first car mah) and it's about 45/55 highway/city driving for me.

However, when I measure on per trip, I can get up to 20km/L if I watch how I drive. From the Civic FD forums, folks say that the FC would gradually get better after the 1st few maintenances.

My Hybrid does not have the cruise control (mine is not the 2008 version) but I read the Japanese site (Kah imports from Japan) that the 2008 version has it, though I'm not sure if the ones that Kah bought as specially fitted for Singapore. We'll just have to see if those folks who collected the Hybrid recently has it.

Frankly, I'm not the expert on it. You can check out the local Civic Hybrid forums at http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewforum.php?f=17 for more information. Think someone also mentioned something about drum brakes there too.

[gogreen]

You are right. The fuel meter in your car is a rough gauge. A better, more accurate way will be to top up your tank to the brim. reset the trip meter to 000. take note of the distance traveled the next time you top up to the brim ( there could still be pockets of air in the tank - which may contribute to the minor calculation error ). the amount of gas you top up = the amount of gas you have used. divide the distance traveled by the amount of gas you top up will give you a relatively accurate km per liter.

thanks for the indicative numbers. really appreciate it.

KAH MOTORS only has cruise control on the 2l Civic. That's why I check.

it's ok. we all are learning from each other. thanks for your time.

[syww]

I'll be collecting my Civic 2.0Si on the 27th or 28th. Been waiting too damn long liao. :s27:

Hi vblues, hows the drive so far and hows the fuel consumption? Am considering the 1.8 or 2.0 and can't really make up my mind.

[Si1128]

Hi vblues, hows the drive so far and hows the fuel consumption? Am considering the 1.8 or 2.0 and can't really make up my mind.

go for the 2.0Si its DOHC engine ,I was also unbale to decide between 1.8 & 2.0 and after much consideration settle down for the 2.0..being driving for a year now ..enjoying the FD2 everyday.

[gohsj89]

according to a thread i started last 2 month ago, regarding 4at, 5at and cvt...
some say that paddle shift is quite useless with CVT

thus i think the civic hybrid quite useless with the paddle shift as it is a CVT transmision
unlike the 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 which is 5AT

[s7460597]

according to a thread i started last 2 month ago, regarding 4at, 5at and cvt...
some say that paddle shift is quite useless with CVT

thus i think the civic hybrid quite useless with the paddle shift as it is a CVT transmision
unlike the 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 which is 5AT

The paddle shift is not useless. It's just that the AT for the Civic is good enough for the majority of drivers on Singapore roads. I for one only used it couple of occasions to try it out.

[emahnic]

Well, I'm using the FC meter in the Hybrid as a measure but I hear that actual figures (if you calculate manually) are actually slightly better than what the meter reads. So far, my 1st 1000km is average of 14.4km/L. Calculating my 2nd tank of petrol works out to around 16.55km/L. But well, I don't drive conservatively all the time (my first car mah) and it's about 45/55 highway/city driving for me.

However, when I measure on per trip, I can get up to 20km/L if I watch how I drive. From the Civic FD forums, folks say that the FC would gradually get better after the 1st few maintenances.

My Hybrid does not have the cruise control (mine is not the 2008 version) but I read the Japanese site (Kah imports from Japan) that the 2008 version has it, though I'm not sure if the ones that Kah bought as specially fitted for Singapore. We'll just have to see if those folks who collected the Hybrid recently has it.

Frankly, I'm not the expert on it. You can check out the local Civic Hybrid forums at http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewforum.php?f=17 for more information. Think someone also mentioned something about drum brakes there too.

Huh so ave is only 15km/L ah. Seen reviews previously saying that ave is 20+km/L

[dareth]

whatever it is, dont go for the 1.6L .

i was deciding whether to get the 1.6L of 1.5vtec city and get up getting the city. I cannot withstand the look of the 1.6's interior. If u are the one looking for nice dark or black interior, u will know what i mean. If not, go and take a look at the city vtec and 1.6l . GO for Si, how much different is the road tax for 1.8 and 2.0L ? beside that, the FC are relatively fine. U only live once, get a car u like, and not drive for the sake of driving. :o

[alvinaloy]

Huh so ave is only 15km/L ah. Seen reviews previously saying that ave is 20+km/L
Please read the thread. I live in town and work in Eunos. Traffic is bad where I live and work.

[gohsj89]

The paddle shift is not useless. It's just that the AT for the Civic is good enough for the majority of drivers on Singapore roads. I for one only used it couple of occasions to try it out.

u mean u tried on the 1.8 or the 1.3?

[s7460597]

u mean u tried on the 1.8 or the 1.3?


I am driving the 1.8 VTI-S auto.

I had test driven the 1.3 hybrid, pick up and power is ok for normal use in Singapore. My test drive was with my wife, 2 kids and the SE.

[gohsj89]

I am driving the 1.8 VTI-S auto.

I had test driven the 1.3 hybrid, pick up and power is ok for normal use in Singapore. My test drive was with my wife, 2 kids and the SE.

ohh.. but that time the 1.3 got paddle shift?

[s7460597]

ohh.. but that time the 1.3 got paddle shift?

Actually don't remember. SE insisted I test drive the hybrid even though I wasn't interested. LOL. He said since the test car is available why not try.

[gohsj89]

Actually don't remember. SE insisted I test drive the hybrid even though I wasn't interested. LOL. He said since the test car is available why not try.

lol.. to my knowledge CVT transmission (the 1.3) no not need any paddle shift (if there is). more of a gimmicks only :o

[vblues]

Hi vblues, hows the drive so far and hows the fuel consumption? Am considering the 1.8 or 2.0 and can't really make up my mind.

Does the 4-5k difference between the 1.8 and the 2.0 makes a lot of difference to you? If not go for the 2.0. You won't regret it.

Been driving for 6 months and I'm very satisfied with the performance. Hadn't done any mods yet so totally stock.

[vblues]

The paddle shift is not useless. It's just that the AT for the Civic is good enough for the majority of drivers on Singapore roads. I for one only used it couple of occasions to try it out.

I concur. The Sports mode is more than sufficient for me so thus far I've used the paddle shifts only once.

[Cyberbaby]

go for the 2.0Si its DOHC engine ,I was also unbale to decide between 1.8 & 2.0 and after much consideration settle down for the 2.0..being driving for a year now ..enjoying the FD2 everyday.

You driving TypeR ? :D

[s7460597]

Does the 4-5k difference between the 1.8 and the 2.0 makes a lot of difference to you? If not go for the 2.0. You won't regret it.

Been driving for 6 months and I'm very satisfied with the performance. Hadn't done any mods yet so totally stock.

My 1.8 is also stock and happy with the car.

It comes down to what you need. 2.0 you get nicer rims, cruise control (do you want or need it?, steering different (for me 1.8 steering is direct and good enuf), 200 cc more capacity. forgot what else. if you can afford it go for it but even if you don't the 1.8 is a good car. nowadays unless you are rich have to keep it for long time so go for something that YOU like.

[dareth]

You driving TypeR ? :D

FD2 = Si
FD2R = TypeR

;)

[dareth]

according to a thread i started last 2 month ago, regarding 4at, 5at and cvt...
some say that paddle shift is quite useless with CVT

thus i think the civic hybrid quite useless with the paddle shift as it is a CVT transmision
unlike the 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 which is 5AT

due to the technology behind this cvt, with paddle shift / steermatic control will definitely be helpful.. once u switch over, u will drive like a manual car without clutch..

this will compensate the "rubber-band" effect.... go and try it and u will know the differences..

In sg context, we dont use it often as there's too many cars on the road. U can easily sped off and overtake a car when u switch to manual mode ;)... but petrol also :D

[seller4]

FD2 = Si
FD2R = TypeR

;)
The complete list.

FD1 = Civic 1.8
FD2 = Civic 2.0 aka Si
FD3 = Civic 1.3 Hybrid
FD4 = Civic 1.6
FN = Civic Euro Type R (KM)
FD2R = Civic JDM Type R (PI)

[ahtea]

according to a thread i started last 2 month ago, regarding 4at, 5at and cvt...
some say that paddle shift is quite useless with CVT

thus i think the civic hybrid quite useless with the paddle shift as it is a CVT transmision
unlike the 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 which is 5AT
Is useful if you need the extra power frequently (eg. overtaking). Otherwise, useless as it will affect your FC.

[ahtea]

whatever it is, dont go for the 1.6L .

i was deciding whether to get the 1.6L of 1.5vtec city and get up getting the city. I cannot withstand the look of the 1.6's interior. If u are the one looking for nice dark or black interior, u will know what i mean. If not, go and take a look at the city vtec and 1.6l . GO for Si, how much different is the road tax for 1.8 and 2.0L ? beside that, the FC are relatively fine. U only live once, get a car u like, and not drive for the sake of driving. :o
Was told FC for 1.6L and 1.8L is quite close.

In my opinion, if going for 1.6L engine, might as well go for the Altis. Cheaper as well.

[ahtea]

ohh.. but that time the 1.3 got paddle shift?
All the while, 1.3 Hybrid has no paddle shifts.

[dareth]

Was told FC for 1.6L and 1.8L is quite close.

In my opinion, if going for 1.6L engine, might as well go for the Altis. Cheaper as well.


its ur right foot that tells u ur FC, not the car or rather the capacity..

imagine u are on 2k - 2.5k rpm, can u withstand driving the 1.6L dragging a 2L body patiently up to the 100km/h mark? isnt a 1.8l or a 2.0l with the similar rpm can reach 100km/hr faster than 1.6l?

y 1.6L has bad fc or complain about power is weak? becos u need to press harder to reach the desired speed.

basically, light-footed for altis, civic... it shall be ard 12 to 14 km/l :)

I probably can tell u prefer civic but the differences for 1.6 and 2.0l is about 10k. If u intend to go for 10 yrs, take the Si model, no regrets... if not, RSZ also good.. :D

[ahtea]

its ur right foot that tells u ur FC, not the car or rather the capacity..

imagine u are on 2k - 2.5k rpm, can u withstand driving the 1.6L dragging a 2L body patiently up to the 100km/h mark? isnt a 1.8l or a 2.0l with the similar rpm can reach 100km/hr faster than 1.6l?

y 1.6L has bad fc or complain about power is weak? becos u need to press harder to reach the desired speed.

basically, light-footed for altis, civic... it shall be ard 12 to 14 km/l :)

I probably can tell u prefer civic but the differences for 1.6 and 2.0l is about 10k. If u intend to go for 10 yrs, take the Si model, no regrets... if not, RSZ also good.. :D
Yes, I guess the poor FC on the 1.6L Civic is mainly attributed to the 1.6L engine trying to move a heavy 1.8L/2.0L body. Thus more steppung is required to pull the car to pickup.

My preference for 1.6L range is Altis for it is value for money, not Civic unless you are talking about the 1.8L. :D

[syww]

Tested the hybrid yesterday with CFO and SE. Drive is definately better than my gustler altis now clocking 10km/l.
Juz need to get use to the start-stop cut-off. But that's what its all about in the 1st place...zero fuel consumption at traffice lights.

Good news. For those waiting for the 2008 Civic, yeah...its out...got the remote unlock for the boot!
And yes, the 1.3 FD3 has the same ergonomical seat as the 2.0 FD2 as with side air-bags for these 2 models not available for 1.6L & 1.8L.
Bad, the FD3 only has one color(beige) for the leather.

Did some calculation these few days and here are my prelimary results comparing cost to maintain between the 2L, 1.8l and hybrid 1.3l.

Over 4yrs and distance covered of 90,000km using current gaugue of $2 per litre petrol.
Includes road tax of $668, $1,150 & $1,426 yearly respectively. Excludes insurance, upfront captial differences.

Using 2 groups of comsumption values
Normal - 10km/l, 11km/l and 17km/l (2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)
Optimistic - 11km/l, 12km/l & 19km/l 2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)

[Cost to maintain 2L, 1.8L and 1.3 L are(for 4 yrs 90,000 km, $2 per litre petrol)
Normal - $23.7K, 20.3K, 13.2K
Optimisatic - $22.0K,$ 19.6K, $12.1K
]

Difference comes up to (savings in dollars), using 1.3l as baseline
Normal - $10.4K (FD2), $7.00K(FD1)
Optimistic - $9.92K(FD), 7.45K(FD1)

cfo says go green and save $$$, sighz....still cannot decide...

Anyone got news of upcoming coe? SE says will go up because of release of new Jazz

[spyder79]

Tested the hybrid yesterday with CFO and SE. Drive is definately better than my gustler altis now clocking 10km/l.
Juz need to get use to the start-stop cut-off. But that's what its all about in the 1st place...zero fuel consumption at traffice lights.

Good news. For those waiting for the 2008 Civic, yeah...its out...got the remote unlock for the boot!
And yes, the 1.3 FD3 has the same ergonomical seat as the 2.0 FD2. Further, the FD3 only has one color(beige) for the leather.

Did some calculation these few days and here are my prelimary results comparing cost to maintain between the 2L, 1.8l and hybrid 1.3l.

Over 4yrs and distance covered of 90,000km using current gaugue of $2 per litre petrol.
Includes road tax of $668, $1,150 & $1,426 yearly respectively. Excludes insurance, upfront captial differences.

Using 2 groups pof comsumption values
Normal - 10km/l, 11km/l and 17km/l (2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)
Optimistic - 11km/l, 12km/l & 19km/l 2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)

[Cost to maintain 2L, 1.8L and 1.3 L are(for 4 yrs 90,000 km, $2 per litre petrol)
Normal - $23.7K, 20.3K, 13.2K
Optimisatic - $22.0K,$ 19.6K, $12.1K
]

Difference comes up to (savings in dollars), using 1.3l as baseline
Normal - $10.4K (FD2), $7.00K(FD1)
Optimistic - $9.92K(FD), 7.45K(FD1)

cfo says go green and save $$$, sighz....still cannot decide...

Anyone got news of upcoming coe? SE says will go up because of release of new Jazz

sure go up one.... faster book 1st..

i just booked my blue hybrid 10 day ago...

[ahtea]

Tested the hybrid yesterday with CFO and SE. Drive is definately better than my gustler altis now clocking 10km/l.
Juz need to get use to the start-stop cut-off. But that's what its all about in the 1st place...zero fuel consumption at traffice lights.

Good news. For those waiting for the 2008 Civic, yeah...its out...got the remote unlock for the boot!
And yes, the 1.3 FD3 has the same ergonomical seat as the 2.0 FD2 as with side air-bags for these 2 models not available for 1.6L & 1.8L.
Bad, the FD3 only has one color(beige) for the leather.

Did some calculation these few days and here are my prelimary results comparing cost to maintain between the 2L, 1.8l and hybrid 1.3l.

Over 4yrs and distance covered of 90,000km using current gaugue of $2 per litre petrol.
Includes road tax of $668, $1,150 & $1,426 yearly respectively. Excludes insurance, upfront captial differences.

Using 2 groups of comsumption values
Normal - 10km/l, 11km/l and 17km/l (2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)
Optimistic - 11km/l, 12km/l & 19km/l 2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)

[Cost to maintain 2L, 1.8L and 1.3 L are(for 4 yrs 90,000 km, $2 per litre petrol)
Normal - $23.7K, 20.3K, 13.2K
Optimisatic - $22.0K,$ 19.6K, $12.1K
]

Difference comes up to (savings in dollars), using 1.3l as baseline
Normal - $10.4K (FD2), $7.00K(FD1)
Optimistic - $9.92K(FD), 7.45K(FD1)

cfo says go green and save $$$, sighz....still cannot decide...

Anyone got news of upcoming coe? SE says will go up because of release of new Jazz
Wonders if the current FD3 has similar enhancement which FD1,2,4 got early this year (60:40 split seats, 3rd headrest for FD1/2 and remote boot unlock).

The initiative to go green is definately worthwhile a commendation. However, personally I feel that you might want to hear more comments from other users before committing as I do hear feedbacks from friends who drove it before that the Hybrid Civic does have some problems climbing up steep slopes. Normal city drive acceleration is ok though (test drove it once before).

COE is already climbing up for Cat A.

[ahtea]

sure go up one.... faster book 1st..

i just booked my blue hybrid 10 day ago...
Congrats on your booking of your new ride. ;)

[zenvey]

Tested the hybrid yesterday with CFO and SE. Drive is definately better than my gustler altis now clocking 10km/l.
Juz need to get use to the start-stop cut-off. But that's what its all about in the 1st place...zero fuel consumption at traffice lights.

Good news. For those waiting for the 2008 Civic, yeah...its out...got the remote unlock for the boot!
And yes, the 1.3 FD3 has the same ergonomical seat as the 2.0 FD2 as with side air-bags for these 2 models not available for 1.6L & 1.8L.
Bad, the FD3 only has one color(beige) for the leather.

Did some calculation these few days and here are my prelimary results comparing cost to maintain between the 2L, 1.8l and hybrid 1.3l.

Over 4yrs and distance covered of 90,000km using current gaugue of $2 per litre petrol.
Includes road tax of $668, $1,150 & $1,426 yearly respectively. Excludes insurance, upfront captial differences.

Using 2 groups of comsumption values
Normal - 10km/l, 11km/l and 17km/l (2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)
Optimistic - 11km/l, 12km/l & 19km/l 2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)

[Cost to maintain 2L, 1.8L and 1.3 L are(for 4 yrs 90,000 km, $2 per litre petrol)
Normal - $23.7K, 20.3K, 13.2K
Optimisatic - $22.0K,$ 19.6K, $12.1K
]

Difference comes up to (savings in dollars), using 1.3l as baseline
Normal - $10.4K (FD2), $7.00K(FD1)
Optimistic - $9.92K(FD), 7.45K(FD1)

cfo says go green and save $$$, sighz....still cannot decide...

Anyone got news of upcoming coe? SE says will go up because of release of new Jazz
civic 2008 out for very long already :s13:

[seller4]

civic 2008 out for very long already :s13:
Now waiting for Nov for Civic 2009. :s13:

[ahtea]

Now waiting for Nov for Civic 2009. :s13:
So fast? Would that be a facelift?

[xspace]

2.0si sibei songs... ...

[ahtea]

2.0si sibei songs... ...
Go petrol kiosk also pay until very songs. Haha.

[Cyberbaby]

Tested the hybrid yesterday with CFO and SE. Drive is definately better than my gustler altis now clocking 10km/l.
Juz need to get use to the start-stop cut-off. But that's what its all about in the 1st place...zero fuel consumption at traffice lights.

Good news. For those waiting for the 2008 Civic, yeah...its out...got the remote unlock for the boot!
And yes, the 1.3 FD3 has the same ergonomical seat as the 2.0 FD2 as with side air-bags for these 2 models not available for 1.6L & 1.8L.
Bad, the FD3 only has one color(beige) for the leather.

Did some calculation these few days and here are my prelimary results comparing cost to maintain between the 2L, 1.8l and hybrid 1.3l.

Over 4yrs and distance covered of 90,000km using current gaugue of $2 per litre petrol.
Includes road tax of $668, $1,150 & $1,426 yearly respectively. Excludes insurance, upfront captial differences.

Using 2 groups of comsumption values
Normal - 10km/l, 11km/l and 17km/l (2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)
Optimistic - 11km/l, 12km/l & 19km/l 2L. 1.8L amd 1.3L)

[Cost to maintain 2L, 1.8L and 1.3 L are(for 4 yrs 90,000 km, $2 per litre petrol)
Normal - $23.7K, 20.3K, 13.2K
Optimisatic - $22.0K,$ 19.6K, $12.1K
]

Difference comes up to (savings in dollars), using 1.3l as baseline
Normal - $10.4K (FD2), $7.00K(FD1)
Optimistic - $9.92K(FD), 7.45K(FD1)
cfo says go green and save $$$, sighz....still cannot decide...

Anyone got news of upcoming coe? SE says will go up because of release of new Jazz

Care to explain more in layman terms? Dun quite understand on the saving? :)

[ahtea]

Care to explain more in layman terms? Dun quite understand on the saving? :)
I think he is calculating based on the car's FC. How much he could save by travelling 90,000km for the respective models.

[Cyberbaby]

I think he is calculating based on the car's FC. How much he could save by travelling 90,000km for the respective models.

O.K, so the fuel saving between a FD2 and FD3 is around $10K for 4 yrs which is around $2.5K per year. :)

[ahtea]

O.K, so the fuel saving between a FD2 and FD3 is around $10K for 4 yrs which is around $2.5K per year. :)
Yep. You save further from your annual road tax (green rebate + smaller cc). However, on the side note, resale value will be on the low side due to lower paper value (all the incentives our government give to buy a green car). So end of the day, cost savings or not is really hard to determine as of yet.

[seller4]

So fast? Would that be a facelift?
I think just add some new features like 2008 model lor.

[Cyberbaby]

I think just add some new features like 2008 model lor.

Is the 2008 or 2009 model going for keyless?

[ahtea]

Is the 2008 or 2009 model going for keyless?
2008 model is already out. No keyless yet. Keyless for 2009? Still a question mark.

Was told by a KM SE that there might possibly be a facelift of Civic coming this year - aka. 2009 Civic and might have a chance of having build in GPS as standard -- Don't know how true is it.

Features? I think the features are somewhat complete already. With the exception of 60:40 split seats from the cabin.

[seller4]

I think the 2008 Civic has the 60:40 seats feature.

I hope the 2009 Civic has the rain sensor feature like Mit EX. :D

[ahtea]

I think the 2008 Civic has the 60:40 seats feature.

I hope the 2009 Civic has the rain sensor feature like Mit EX. :D
The 08 Civic has 60:40 splits. But it is not accessible via cabin - you can only "activate" it through the boot which is inconvenient in an event of a heavy downpour when you need to access to the umbrella in your boot from the cabin.

[Cyberbaby]

I have read somewhere that Civic will be implementing keyless, same as FD2R. I so used to my Latio keyless now. :D

[alvinaloy]

Wonders if the current FD3 has similar enhancement which FD1,2,4 got early this year (60:40 split seats, 3rd headrest for FD1/2 and remote boot unlock).

The initiative to go green is definately worthwhile a commendation. However, personally I feel that you might want to hear more comments from other users before committing as I do hear feedbacks from friends who drove it before that the Hybrid Civic does have some problems climbing up steep slopes. Normal city drive acceleration is ok though (test drove it once before).

COE is already climbing up for Cat A.
FD3 is not possible to have 60:40 split seats as the battery is located behind the rear seat. Haven't heard about the 3rd headrest (no point IMO) nor remote boot unlock (this is so much more useful).

Problem climbing steep slopes? Yes and no. No problems when there still is battery power. Zips up Benjamin Shears and car parks with no problems at all. However, once battery low or gone. It's basically a 1.3L. Need to rev up to 3k or 4k in order to properly accelerate from a junction.

[seller4]

The 08 Civic has 60:40 splits. But it is not accessible via cabin - you can only "activate" it through the boot which is inconvenient in an event of a heavy downpour when you need to access to the umbrella in your boot from the cabin.
Oh i see. :D Thanks for the info.

[ahtea]

I have read somewhere that Civic will be implementing keyless, same as FD2R. I so used to my Latio keyless now. :D
As in having a RFID key and start the engine by pressing a button (ie. no need to insert key)?

I think some countries already have that if i am not wrong (read the user manual of the FD Civic and saw it). Nice to have though.

[ahtea]

FD3 is not possible to have 60:40 split seats as the battery is located behind the rear seat. Haven't heard about the 3rd headrest (no point IMO) nor remote boot unlock (this is so much more useful).

Problem climbing steep slopes? Yes and no. No problems when there still is battery power. Zips up Benjamin Shears and car parks with no problems at all. However, once battery low or gone. It's basically a 1.3L. Need to rev up to 3k or 4k in order to properly accelerate from a junction.
Thanks for the input.

[ahtea]

Oh i see. :D Thanks for the info.
No problem!

[eurofunk]

accord 08 :D