Security Suites Discussion Thread

[ballastic90]

as above


have a really bad ( terrible ) experiences with Norton360 (07)
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=1868275&highlight=norton

and Panda Platinium Internet sercurity 06 .

so any really solid all in one sercurity suites to recommend ?

MCAFEE Internet sercurity 08 ?
ZoneAlarm Internet sercurity ?
Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 ?


:s22:


hope the next one wun be that bad
:s22:

[cannotliao]

try the free one.

anti-virus got AVG, Avira AntiVir, Avast, Comodo
firewall got Comodo or Online Armor Personal Firewall

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best_46_free_utilities.htm#3
for Adware/Spyware Remover pick one from above link.

then once or twice month go scan with free Kaspersky or Bitdefender online scanner. you are quite safe liao.


for pay version. you may want try Kaspersky or Bitdefender.

[Piak_Piak]

Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0

[a024601976]

Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 :) ... i mean since it's having a discount ...

[ballastic90]

Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 :) ... i mean since it's having a discount ...

Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0

wah

seems alot of people jie shao this

hmm

what about virus detection leh ?

how is it?

[mun_hoe]

Eset Smart Security.......I'm using it, no resource hog, far better than norton craps :)

[a024601976]

wah

seems alot of people jie shao this

hmm

what about virus detection leh ?

how is it?

You can always give the trial a try before you buy it. So far it's been pretty good. :)

[ballastic90]

You can always give the trial a try before you buy it. So far it's been pretty good. :)

what about the tech support ?
ok not ?


hope won't end up like the Norton360
simply horrible:s22:

[a024601976]

what about the tech support ?
ok not ?


hope won't end up like the Norton360
simply horrible:s22:

Got no reason to call so far :) ... better ask someone else.

[littleprincey]

I am using MS live onecare. It is not bad.

[ab_cat]

http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/

[ballastic90]

I am using MS live onecare. It is not bad.

but heard say the virus detection not so good ah ?:s22:

[erwinrommel]

I am using MS live onecare. It is not bad.

Good luck to you! =:p

[erwinrommel]

I am using Kaspersky IS. Both Kaspersky and NOD32 (ESET) are getting rave reviews.

If you have a powerful processor, I suggest you go for Kaspersky. If you have lower-end hardarwe, ESET security should be better. :)

[BoonMee]

Any1 knows in sls.. which shops got sell bitdefender suite.

[ballastic90]

Good luck to you! =:p

hahaha

why good luck to littleprincey ??:s22:

that 1 also lots of problems?

[ASM_HWZ]

http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/Oop... my dear friend, no no no...

[ab_cat]

lol y no? But for the list, I guess I will choose KIS ba..

[erwinrommel]

hahaha

why good luck to littleprincey ??:s22:

that 1 also lots of problems?

It has one of the worst detection in numerous tests. Only NOD32 and Kaspersky are always in the top 3 detection tests.

Anyway, its MS fault that the OS has so many flaws. You sure you wanna buy their own anti-virus to cover its own design flaws? :s22:

[mata_hippo]

bitdefender not recommended for slower coms

[hlots123]

lol y no?for one perspective on why not, see "anti-virus testing websites" apr 2007 article at av-comparatives.

[ahs3ng]

Any1 knows in sls.. which shops got sell bitdefender suite.

why buy from sls? Challenger got sell also

I just brought 2 licenses of it for my company

Review of BitDefender IMO:

Pros:
Good and cheap(brought 2 licenses for near 90sgd, 2yrs warranty), all in one. Im using BitDefender Internet Security 2008; consists of antivirus, antispyware, antiphishing(this one i dont find it useful at all), antispam, firewall(very easy to configure), parental control(not using), gamer mode(havent try)

Cons:
When you first install it, it will prompt u for ur programs's allow or deny action; quite irritating but after that is ok. Its not recommended for slow processor though.

[ballastic90]

why buy from sls? Challenger got sell also

I just brought 2 licenses of it for my company

Review of BitDefender IMO:

Pros:
Good and cheap(brought 2 licenses for near 90sgd, 2yrs warranty), all in one. Im using BitDefender Internet Security 2008; consists of antivirus, antispyware, antiphishing(this one i dont find it useful at all), antispam, firewall(very easy to configure), parental control(not using), gamer mode(havent try)

Cons:
When you first install it, it will prompt u for ur programs's allow or deny action; quite irritating but after that is ok. Its not recommended for slow processor though.

so as compared this to kapersky

which is better

in terms of better detection and scanning time
:s22:

[ahs3ng]

so as compared this to kapersky

which is better

in terms of better detection and scanning time
:s22:

this i cant comment, as i never use kapersky before :p

[erwinrommel]

so as compared this to kapersky

which is better

in terms of better detection and scanning time
:s22:

How do you define "better"?

Normally, there are a few factors to consider:

1) Resource-hogging?

2) Quick updates?

3) Good heuristic analyzer?

4) Powerful virus dictionary (signature) scan?

5) Cost?

[ballastic90]

How do you define "better"?

Normally, there are a few factors to consider:

1) Resource-hogging?

2) Quick updates?

3) Good heuristic analyzer?

4) Powerful virus dictionary (signature) scan?

5) Cost?

erms

options 1 and 3
:s22:

[Kevin10]

How abt ahnlab ? Install till now , i am still happy with it and is cheap. =)

[erwinrommel]

erms

options 1 and 3
:s22:

NOD32 for you then. :) And its more expensive.

[ASM_HWZ]

lol y no? But for the list, I guess I will choose KIS ba..I prefer the one done by av-comparatives. At least they share their view in forum, along with 1 or 2 AV developers.

[ASM_HWZ]

How do you define "better"?

Normally, there are a few factors to consider:

1) Resource-hogging? - ESS is better than KIS

2) Quick updates?KIS (depend on the setting), but there are occasion where NOD is faster

3) Good heuristic analyzer?Eset AH Engine, no doubt; this is what they are famous for... Some signature could even detect virus variants without update. They are the one and only that could do this.:s16:

4) Powerful virus dictionary (signature) scan?KIS for sure, has the bigger of all.

5) Cost?KIS is expensive than Eset:s16: Thats why they are people looking for sale in KIS/KAV. Eset, dun expect too much sale or special discount.Personally, I own NOD32, KIS and Bitdefender, I must say all are good; but BD is a good buy if your system is not slow.

[tifosi]

i think i would recommend Outpost Security Suite.

Its pretty damned good

[PsyNidE]

I'm using KIS 7.0. Prior to that I was using NOD32. Both are just as good. Kaspersky is signature base while NOD32 is heuristics based. Now NOD32 has launched their all-in-one security suite called Eset Smart Security.
I might just change back to ESS next time after my KIS expires in 2009.

[ballastic90]

I'm using KIS 7.0. Prior to that I was using NOD32. Both are just as good. Kaspersky is signature base while NOD32 is heuristics based. Now NOD32 has launched their all-in-one security suite called Eset Smart Security.
I might just change back to ESS next time after my KIS expires in 2009.

wah

not got 3 choices

1) KIS 7.0
2) NOD 32
3) Bitdefender


what about zonealarm ?

how come no1 mention it ah ?
not good?

[mun_hoe]

zonealarm used to be good when it started out a few yrs back, then it got bloated and laggy....used it back in yr 2001 till 2002

[ASM_HWZ]

zonealarm used to be good when it started out a few yrs back, then it got bloated and laggy....used it back in yr 2001 till 2002To be frank, it was good because they heavily advertised it and its free. Back then, the good one were Sygate, kerio and Agnitum, BlackICE...

Now Agnitum, OnLine Amour, Comodo... ...

[ASM_HWZ]

Anyway Guys... just one good news. Kaspersky Version 8 is release as RC. So I guess, official release will be round the corner

[ballastic90]

To be frank, it was good because they heavily advertised it and its free. Back then, the good one were Sygate, kerio and Agnitum, BlackICE...

Now Agnitum, OnLine Amour, Comodo... ...

OnLine amour ?
hmmm

heard that the sygate firewall can trace back the ip of whos trying to access ur pc ,
seems good leh

[ASM_HWZ]

OnLine amour ?
hmmm

heard that the sygate firewall can trace back the ip of whos trying to access ur pc ,
seems good lehYes... but useless foe some of us here... no point tracking back unless you want to block their IP.

[spinning_quirK]

For an antivirus comparison, www.av-comparatives.org is a good reference.

For a firewall comparison, this is a good reference: http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php

Basically shows that although KIS' firewall isn't the best, it still thrashes Eset's firewall, because the latter's firewall doesn't fight leaktests.

[ballastic90]

For an antivirus comparison, www.av-comparatives.org is a good reference.

For a firewall comparison, this is a good reference: http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php

Basically shows that although KIS' firewall isn't the best, it still thrashes Eset's firewall, because the latter's firewall doesn't fight leaktests.

wheres norton firewall in that link ?
not even in that leauge ah ?

[erwinrommel]

wheres norton firewall in that link ?
not even in that leauge ah ?

Most probably its not tested. Otherwise, McAfee will surely appear in the list. Their firewall is quite good and it simply does'nt make sense that the MS Live One-care can make it to the list while McAfee doesn't.

[yslimsg]

using F-secured.. Lol

[ballastic90]

Most probably its not tested. Otherwise, McAfee will surely appear in the list. Their firewall is quite good and it simply does'nt make sense that the MS Live One-care can make it to the list while McAfee doesn't.

yea lor
kinda werid
MS live actually beat McAfee ??

[MPH]

Would highly recommend SOPHOS. They are 1 of the elite in internet securities.

[dragonics]

Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 now selling $38 for 3PC 1yr

[ASM_HWZ]

Would highly recommend SOPHOS. They are 1 of the elite in internet securities.Yes, and their firewall technology is base on Agnitum Outpost, same as Ad-Aware.

[ASM_HWZ]

wheres norton firewall in that link ?
not even in that leauge ah ?He has minimized the list... as they don't respond to him... he tested most of the firewall in the market, one that he didn't touch on si far is Injoy.

[spinning_quirK]

wheres norton firewall in that link ?
not even in that leauge ah ?
They switched to new testing criteria recently. Their previous round of testing somewhere on the website had a long list of firewalls.

[hlots123]

The old list is still there wot, http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php

But I think his tests seem more like a reflection of how strong / weak the firewall's HIPS-component is. So the top firewalls there, many novices (like moi) simply rush to install then dunno how to configure or answer pop-ups & cause unnecessary problems for themselves. Or complain too noisy or too complicated etc...

Q.: You conduct extensive research of firewalls’ functionality. Can you name the five top features that should be present in every firewall of choice?

A.: It should be noted that the products we mostly focus on are not common firewalls. We work with products that implement process-based security, we call them personal firewalls.
There are many software firewalls that do not do that and just filter packets. These firewalls are not worse than personal firewalls, they are just different kind of software - for different kind of users. We require personal firewalls to include host protection features too.
Now, if it is clear what kind of products we are talking about, we can discuss what we expect from them.http://www.securityteacher.com/2008/02/26/david-matousek-matousec-transparent-security-shares-his-views-of-internet-security/

[spinning_quirK]

Well, most firewalls filter packets perfectly. There are only 3 things left that allow them to be differentiated:

1) resource usage
2) price
3) strength of the anti-intrusion system

The top two firewalls in terms of 3 are also free and use very little resources.

[hlots123]

I agree too. But wat I meant was, some pple look at the list & write-off those "middle or bottom" firewalls w/o understanding - when actually those may suit them better than "top" firewalls after considering the user's pc usage, knowledge, tolerance of pop-ups etc...

[ballastic90]

Well, most firewalls filter packets perfectly. There are only 3 things left that allow them to be differentiated:

1) resource usage
2) price
3) strength of the anti-intrusion system

The top two firewalls in terms of 3 are also free and use very little resources.

what about simplcity useage ?
one thing good about norton is their firewall mostly all automatic configure de leh
and hence lesser pop out :s22:

Kapersky got not ah ?

[techmatic]

Kapersky is AV or just IS ?

looking into buying one to replace my expiring LiveOneCare.. If no promo, going back to LiveOneCare I think since I can get rebates..

[PsyNidE]

Kapersky is AV or just IS ?

looking into buying one to replace my expiring LiveOneCare.. If no promo, going back to LiveOneCare I think since I can get rebates..
Kaspersky has only the AV standalone or KIS= Kaspersky Internet Security ... so you decide on which product of theirs do you need?

[NWT1978]

Kapersky is AV or just IS ?

looking into buying one to replace my expiring LiveOneCare.. If no promo, going back to LiveOneCare I think since I can get rebates..

LiveOne Care their detection bad

promo at challenger for Kapersky 3 users at 34.50 for member and 38.50 for non member :D just purchased it today and now updating hope it better than zonealarm...

[ballastic90]

LiveOne Care their detection bad

promo at challenger for Kapersky 3 users at 34.50 for member and 38.50 for non member :D just purchased it today and now updating hope it better than zonealarm...

so for now kapersky the latest version is which 1 ah ?
later i buy liao got new one coming out
wah :s22:

[a024601976]

so for now kapersky the latest version is which 1 ah ?
later i buy liao got new one coming out
wah :s22:

Then you just go to www.kaspersky.com and download the new version and reuse your old license key. Upgrades are FREE! :P

[ballastic90]

Then you just go to www.kaspersky.com and download the new version and reuse your old license key. Upgrades are FREE! :P

wah
sure bo
so good !? :s22:
but kapersky is it resource hog and sucks alot of power from processor ?

downloading the trail soon
hope all goes well
:s22:

[PsyNidE]

wah
sure bo
so good !? :s22:
but kapersky is it resource hog and sucks alot of power from processor ?

downloading the trail soon
hope all goes well
:s22:
have you actually used kaspersky? I've been using it since last year and it's not a resource hog for sure.

[ballastic90]

have you actually used kaspersky? I've been using it since last year and it's not a resource hog for sure.

nope
never leh

stick with norton now regret
but lucky expiring soon

[PsyNidE]

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=259304

Someone is selling away KIS 7.0 with 3 licence

[Jas007]

nope
never leh

stick with norton now regret
but lucky expiring soon

be sure to uninstall Norton thoroughly
make sure you follow the steps given on their webbie
may have to use their Removal Tool
i not sure for N360 ...
but by not doing a full uninstall .. you WILL be in a world of mental anguish when you do install the new IS or AV kit

[ballastic90]

be sure to uninstall Norton thoroughly
make sure you follow the steps given on their webbie
may have to use their Removal Tool
i not sure for N360 ...
but by not doing a full uninstall .. you WILL be in a world of mental anguish when you do install the new IS or AV kit

will conflict right ?
hmmm

but norton 360 when uninstalled from the add/remove programs should be ok bahs ?:s13:

[Jas007]

will conflict right ?
hmmm

but norton 360 when uninstalled from the add/remove programs should be ok bahs ?:s13:

but Norton has been notorious for its uninstalling problems
best to visit Symantec wbebie to check if there's any Removal Tool for your Norton 360
failure to do so if need be ... you might have to :
(1) repair your windows (and no, you cant use sticky tape to pave over the cracks)
(2) do a fresh install of your OS
dont play play ok :s13:

slightly OT ...
when i suspected my system had viruses ... i installed a few at once and scanned them one at a time ...
my main one then was Trend Micro IS ...
i also installed Avira, Avast, Spyware Terminator ... all in the system together ...
didnt encounter any problems :s13:
but then again i was already prepared to do a fresh install .. ultimately if need be
tot i see how much of a salvaging act i can perform lol
kiasu .. no .. i was desperate ...
kiasu is when u install a few in your system for everday use lol

[erwinrommel]

I just help my brother installed the first KIS 7 3 user license that I have bought. He was originally using Norton 2006 OEM copy.

To uninstall, I went to Add/Remove program and uninstall, followed by reboot. Next, I went to their website and download the correct removal tool. This will run slowly and remove all the update options, registries, etc.

Next, I run a CCleaner and remove those invalid registry entries.

Lastly, I install KIS 7, and then run an update, followed by a full system scan while tweaking the scan settings. :s13:

[Jas007]

I just help my brother installed the first KIS 7 3 user license that I have bought. He was originally using Norton 2006 OEM copy.

To uninstall, I went to Add/Remove program and uninstall, followed by reboot. Next, I went to their website and download the correct removal tool. This will run slowly and remove all the update options, registries, etc.

Next, I run a CCleaner and remove those invalid registry entries.

Lastly, I install KIS 7, and then run an update, followed by a full system scan while tweaking the scan settings. :s13:

hmm ... just wondering if it would have been batter to :
1) website and download the correct removal tool
2) disconnect from internet and network
3) Add/Remove program and uninstall, followed by reboot.
4) run the removal program
5) run cCleaner
my thinking is that no unnecessary risk cos without protection, since you already uninstalled your Norton 2006 and then connecting to the internet
6) install KIS 7
7) at the prompt for activation, enable internet connection ... then proceed to activation AFTER making sure UPDATES are being downloaded already

[SpinNaker]

Then you just go to www.kaspersky.com and download the new version and reuse your old license key. Upgrades are FREE! :P

have u tried downloading? from their website, they only say there's 30% discount for recurring customers... nowhere does it state free upgrades...

[a024601976]

have u tried downloading? from their website, they only say there's 30% discount for recurring customers... nowhere does it state free upgrades...

Download from here and install as per usual regardless of which version activation code you got (http://www.kaspersky.com/downloads). Only thing is if you have KIS you have to upgrade to another KIS and vise-versa.

[ballastic90]

Download from here and install as per usual regardless of which version activation code you got (http://www.kaspersky.com/downloads). Only thing is if you have KIS you have to upgrade to another KIS and vise-versa.

o.O

so ish got or dun have ah ?
wah
left 9days b4 360 Expire !!

:s13::look:

[Jas007]

o.O

so ish got or dun have ah ?
wah
left 9days b4 360 Expire !!

:s13::look:

brother,
i willingly forfeited 2 months (balance) of my Trend Micro after getting myself KIS v7 :s13:

[smith2006]

For an antivirus comparison, www.av-comparatives.org (http://www.av-comparatives.org) is a good reference.

For a firewall comparison, this is a good reference: http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php

Basically shows that although KIS' firewall isn't the best, it still thrashes Eset's firewall, because the latter's firewall doesn't fight leaktests.

This site is good but it has not been updated for awhile.

http://www.firewallleaktester.com/

[ballastic90]

brother,
i willingly forfeited 2 months (balance) of my Trend Micro after getting myself KIS v7 :s13:

must make money's worth .
haha

trend micro not so good also huh?

[Jas007]

must make money's worth .
haha

trend micro not so good also huh?

let's just say KIS 7 is better :D
almost everything about it is better, the looks, the interface, the configurations, etc
and more importantly, i think KIS has a wider AV database

[ballastic90]

brother,
i willingly forfeited 2 months (balance) of my Trend Micro after getting myself KIS v7 :s13:

wah
2months alot leh :s22:

[ov2rey]

still prefer Symantec Endpoint Protection

[ballastic90]

still prefer Symantec Endpoint Protection

huh
whats that ?

[ov2rey]

huh
whats that ?

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=26784597&postcount=90

[ballastic90]

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=26784597&postcount=90

wah

but that 1 seem not pretty popular ?
seems solid though

[ov2rey]

wah

but that 1 seem not pretty popular ?
seems solid though

lorxz... it's cost super super big bomb on ur pocket if u able to buy it..

cost 5 users 499 dollars!!!!! SG!!!!!

1 usrs 399DOLLAR!!!!!! do u think good anot?

[hlots123]

Excluding SEP's proactive intrusion module, wudn't it's malware detection capability be on par with norton's?

[Jas007]

lorxz... it's cost super super big bomb on ur pocket if u able to buy it..

cost 5 users 499 dollars!!!!! SG!!!!!

1 usrs 399DOLLAR!!!!!! do u think good anot?

its targeted at corporate clients aint it ?

[ov2rey]

its targeted at corporate clients aint it ?

normal home os also can use

like Xp Home
Xp professional

Vista all kind of edition also can use...

i using that software it's great easy setup and never get any virus

and eating lesser ram

[Jas007]

normal home os also can use

like Xp Home
Xp professional

Vista all kind of edition also can use...

i using that software it's great easy setup and never get any virus

and eating lesser ram

so then it brings about my next question ....
why cant they (Symantec) IMPROVE on their Norton 360 / NIS / etc
this suite you showed us ... shows that they are more than capable of doing so ...
now why wont they ?

[ov2rey]

so then it brings about my next question ....
why cant they (Symantec) IMPROVE on their Norton 360 / NIS / etc
this suite you showed us ... shows that they are more than capable of doing so ...
now why wont they ?

a..
i don't know how to answer ur question but norton did release 360 version 2...

and their NIS improve alot since like version 2007

[ballastic90]

a..
i don't know how to answer ur question but norton did release 360 version 2...

and their NIS improve alot since like version 2007

hmmm
dun think got much improvement de bahs
especially their tech support.

need improvment
yea lor
also want know why the suite u show use never release for we all to use de ?
werid


:yawn:

[Jas007]

a..
i don't know how to answer ur question but norton did release 360 version 2...

and their NIS improve alot since like version 2007

no lah bro ...
not pressing you for an answer lah :s13:
you not spokesman for Symantec lah
but appreciate you trying out all the softwares and posting your findings in the forum
is that part of your job scope ?

as for Norton, i last time i always use Norton ... cos i naive :s13:
now i dun trust their products anymore ... well, the one u using is an exception :D

[ov2rey]

no lah bro ...
not pressing you for an answer lah :s13:
you not spokesman for Symantec lah
but appreciate you trying out all the softwares and posting your findings in the forum
is that part of your job scope ?

as for Norton, i last time i always use Norton ... cos i naive :s13:
now i dun trust their products anymore ... well, the one u using is an exception :D

okie.. let me explain i use alot of software for testing and recommend which anti virus or any tweak tools software is good.. that why i posted alot of software thread for people to preveiw it before buying it...

rather test before buy right?

and for ballastic90

i can tell you that Symantec Endpoint Protection software is way better high then KIS or normal Home edition Norton like NIS, Norton 360 ver 2, Norton anti virus.. etc.. other brand

but maybe there is one or more software is better then Symantec Endpoint Protection but we never know it..

and Symantec Endpoint Protection is a newer technology for detect and scanning for virus, it's newer then Norton 360 and NIS..

and Symantec Endpoint Protection have been recommended to those File Server or networking or company, it can be use as home too

i would say that Symantec Endpoint Protection is a very good product that they release..

anyway i not Symantec FAN!!!!

i only use software that are eating lesser memory and loading and good detecting..


i can say that

Symantec Endpoint Protection is 100% better then NOD32,NIS,Norton 360,Norton anti vius, Symantec Anti vius, McAfee ANti -virus or other ....


i have tested between NOD32 and Symantec Endpoint Protection

Symantec Endpoint Protection detect virus is faster then NOD32.

that all i can say since i am using that software now.

and Symantec Endpoint Protection firewall protect is very good easy to use for those torrent or p2p downloader...

Symantec Endpoint Protection also got build in a techology that can block a software to load or open the file.

[a024601976]

okie.. let me explain i use alot of software for testing and recommend which anti virus or any tweak tools software is good.. that why i posted alot of software thread for people to preveiw it before buying it...

rather test before buy right?

and for ballastic90

i can tell you that Symantec Endpoint Protection software is way better high then KIS or normal Home edition Norton like NIS, Norton 360 ver 2, Norton anti virus.. etc.. other brand

but maybe there is one or more software is better then Symantec Endpoint Protection but we never know it..

and Symantec Endpoint Protection is a newer technology for detect and scanning for virus, it's newer then Norton 360 and NIS..

and Symantec Endpoint Protection have been recommended to those File Server or networking or company, it can be use as home too

i would say that Symantec Endpoint Protection is a very good product that they release..

anyway i not Symantec FAN!!!!

i only use software that are eating lesser memory and loading and good detecting..


i can say that

Symantec Endpoint Protection is 100% better then NOD32,NIS,Norton 360,Norton anti vius, Symantec Anti vius, McAfee ANti -virus or other ....


i have tested between NOD32 and Symantec Endpoint Protection

Symantec Endpoint Protection detect virus is faster then NOD32.

that all i can say since i am using that software now.

and Symantec Endpoint Protection firewall protect is very good easy to use for those torrent or p2p downloader...

Symantec Endpoint Protection also got build in a techology that can block a software to load or open the file.

I find it interesting that you have published results of other antivirus performance without testing them and can come up with a '100% better' score :).

I have SEP in my workplace, it is definitely more a resource hog than NIS not to mention the bootup is quite sloooww. As for detection rate i cannot comment ... but i can assure you we got hit by our fair share of viruses.

It has tons of features i dun think the home user needs. Disabling of external drives, centralized management (setup a server room in the toilet? :))

[ov2rey]

I find it interesting that you have published results of other antivirus performance without testing them and can come up with a '100% better' score :).

I have SEP in my workplace, it is definitely more a resource hog than NIS not to mention the bootup is quite sloooww. As for detection rate i cannot comment ... but i can assure you we got hit by our fair share of viruses.

It has tons of features i dun think the home user needs. Disabling of external drives, centralized management (setup a server room in the toilet? :))

lorx.. u should read more on NOd32 forum there are fews virus that NOD32 unable to detect.. and SEP can detect it and ur working place it loading slow becasue of the mainboard checking networking when starting up and lot of services is running on the background.

if u don't use centralized management just don't set anything for centralized management option since it's not using... no point to care about it.

you are wrong.. SEP is loading faster then NIS and it look me less then 10 sec to load finish all my start up.

i think u have too many services that are not in use that are running might slow up the start up and boot up.

"I find it interesting that you have published results of other antivirus performance without testing them and can come up with a '100% better' score ."

pls search ur answer at the norton web site. and it have already give the answer at the official web site of norton and they got proof of the flash video that SEP is better then NIS and Norton 360.

SEP is design for server use and also can use it for home users
but it's recommended for company use..

it's same as Symantec ANti virus

i wish i have answer ur question.

[a024601976]

lorx.. u should read more on NOd32 forum there are fews virus that NOD32 unable to detect.. and SEP can detect it and ur working place it loading slow becasue of the mainboard checking networking when starting up and lot of services is running on the background.

if u don't use centralized management just don't set anything for centralized management option since it's not using... no point to care about it.

you are wrong.. SEP is loading faster then NIS and it look me less then 10 sec to load finish all my start up.

i think u have too many services that are not in use that are running might slow up the start up and boot up.

"I find it interesting that you have published results of other antivirus performance without testing them and can come up with a '100% better' score ."

pls search ur answer at the norton web site. and it have already give the answer at the official web site of norton and they got proof of the flash video that SEP is better then NIS and Norton 360.

SEP is design for server use and also can use it for home users
but it's recommended for company use..

it's same as Symantec ANti virus

i wish i have answer ur question.

Vice-versa there are some that SEP cannot detect that others can. I do not see that as a definitive conclusion really :). Last thing i need is to visit a Norton website for them to tell me Norton is better ... i mean what else can they say? :)

[ov2rey]

Vice-versa there are some that SEP cannot detect that others can. I do not see that as a definitive conclusion really :). Last thing i need is to visit a Norton website for them to tell me Norton is better ... i mean what else can they say? :)

what u mean..
i don't understand. let have a talk about anti virus and not for war..

SEP is a newer product that release by Symantec company

and Norton is a brand name for home users..

SEP is a high end product by Symantec.

i would recommend SEP for company if u got money..

NIS is eating more ram then SEP and loading lot of services then SEP.

[a024601976]

what u mean..
i don't understand. let have a talk about anti virus and not for war..

SEP is a newer product that release by Symantec company

and Norton is a brand name for home users..

SEP is a high end product by Symantec.

i would recommend SEP for company if u got money..

NIS is eating more ram then SEP and loading lot of services then SEP.

Yup i understand your feelings, but i think my IT dept is going to change out of it. They seem to find that it gets disabled by viruses here and there, and updates are not frequent enough and hence there is a too large a window of opportunity for a virus attack. And the proactive defenses it has is not up to par to not have frequent updates to narrow the window of opportunity for attacks.

[ov2rey]

Yup i understand your feelings, but i think my IT dept is going to change out of it. They seem to find that it gets disabled by viruses here and there, and updates are not frequent enough and hence there is a too large a window of opportunity for a virus attack. And the proactive defenses it has is not up to par to not have frequent updates to narrow the window of opportunity for attacks.

SEP have already release a newer version. maybe just wait for more newer version of SEP since that product just release might have fews bug..

anyway what is ur comment for SEP?

like to hear it from u

[a024601976]

SEP have already release a newer version. maybe just wait for more newer version of SEP since that product just release might have fews bug..

anyway what is ur comment for SEP?

like to hear it from u

Dun think waiting is a solution for corporates, i believe the license is expiring. Either renew or review and change.

Well personally my computer was taken away twice for reformatting due to viruses of some sort last year ... what else can i say ...

[hlots123]

lorx.. u should read more on NOd32 forum there are fews virus that NOD32 unable to detect.. and SEP can detect it
"I find it interesting that you have published results of other antivirus performance without testing them and can come up with a '100% better' score ."

pls search ur answer at the norton web site. and it have already give the answer at the official web site of norton and they got proof of the flash video that SEP is better then NIS and Norton 360.I personally think ur 2 posts above says alot about how "factual" ur views are about SEP....

[cannotliao]

personally i Wont install or use any Symantec or Norton product again.

[ov2rey]

I personally think ur 2 posts above says alot about how "factual" ur views are about SEP....

okie sorry if done or say any things that i shouldn't say

for gamer i recommend

1st NOD32 "Becsaue it taking lesser ram and loading
2nd KIS "because it is a good protection"
3rd Norton anti virus 2008 "it taking less or improve from 2007 from ram and loading scanning ... etc..

as for McAfee they are still so many bug and too many start up and service it taking long time to load finish. but their protection is good too.

it's better to have a tweak tools software as like ccleaner, Registry Mechanic,Your Uninstaller! 2008

those software are good for speeding up and remove junk file... and fix.

for my comment for SEP there are too many option that we don't need to use it. those option might taking up ram and service from loading.
but SEP bad things is that they do not dialy updating...

[ballastic90]

SEP have already release a newer version. maybe just wait for more newer version of SEP since that product just release might have fews bug..

anyway what is ur comment for SEP?

like to hear it from u

wah
SEP out of the question liao

too X
haha

Poll added .
3more days to expiry
:s22::yawn:


So confrim now , the kapersky if i get ver 7 and a new 1 comes out . can i upgrade for free??

[Jas007]

So confrim now , the kapersky if i get ver 7 and a new 1 comes out . can i upgrade for free??

no one here can confirm that for you cos Ver 8 is not out yet
but based on their past policies, upgrading of KIS6 to KIS7 is free
previously someone reported that there is a $30 payment which WAS misleading
you need to pay if u upgrading from KAV to KIS
see here (http://www.kaspersky.com/upgrade)

[ballastic90]

ok
finally
360 Has EXPIRED ( Happy ! )

but since i haven't made a decision to get which internet security, for now can the norton stil protect even though is has expired ?


and is the firewall still as what is is used to be before the expiring ?
got any changes to the firewall besides the updates for the anti virus ?
:s22:

[Jas007]

ok
finally
360 Has EXPIRED ( Happy ! )

but since i haven't made a decision to get which internet security, for now can the norton stil protect even though is has expired ?


and is the firewall still as what is is used to be before the expiring ?
got any changes to the firewall besides the updates for the anti virus ?
:s22:

i shld think that you are still protected ... but that you are no longer entitled to any updates
this leaves you vulnerable to virus attacks ... esp if your email is scanned by Norton
the other thing i would urge you to monitor is the status of the expired suite
make sure Protection status is ON ...
i've encountered old version NIS where it deactivated by itself cos i had overlooked the expiry date

why not try out freewares ...
Comodo Firewall is pretty decent
as for AV .. u may try Avira or Avast
these free wares comes with regular updates ... and shld be a wiser option than sticking out with an expired protection suite

my 2 cents

[ASM_HWZ]

Sorry for the late reply

no one here can confirm that for you cos Ver 8 is not out yetNo, it's not out yet... but 8.0.0.343 Pre RC2 has just being released.
but based on their past policies, upgrading of KIS6 to KIS7 is freeYes, it's free
previously someone reported that there is a $30 payment which WAS misleadingyou need to pay if u upgrading from KAV to KIS
see here (http://www.kaspersky.com/upgrade)Yes, you are right

[ASM_HWZ]

ok
finally
360 Has EXPIRED ( Happy ! )

but since i haven't made a decision to get which internet security, for now can the norton stil protect even though is has expired ?


and is the firewall still as what is is used to be before the expiring ?
got any changes to the firewall besides the updates for the anti virus ?
:s22:Use the one you are confident in... If you hanged around AV/Security forum, each have their own said... go to Wilder Security; you won't expect much cos most of NOD32 users camp there... but there are people there who can give you good advise.

See... if AV ABC miss certain virus; and AV XYZ detect it, that does not mean that AV XYZ is good... One must know that, there are different type of Virus, and some might be good at detecting Virus A but some might be good at detecting virus Z... and some are capable to detect virus variant without updating it signature/database... All software do have bug; NOD32, Kaspersky, Bitdefender etc etc all have it, U don't have to worry, at least they are open to public and there are users and developers willing to assist you.

When choosing an AV... look into their respond time in updating new signature/database, next will be the resource usage, easy of use... lastly the confident U have for that Brand.

Security is a Process not a Product...;)

[ov2rey]

wah
SEP out of the question liao

too X
haha

Poll added .
3more days to expiry
:s22::yawn:


So confrim now , the kapersky if i get ver 7 and a new 1 comes out . can i upgrade for free??

SEP just release new version fews days ago

version 11.0.2000.1562

[ballastic90]

Use the one you are confident in... If you hanged around AV/Security forum, each have their own said... go to Wilder Security; you won't expect much cos most of NOD32 users camp there... but there are people there who can give you good advise.

See... if AV ABC miss certain virus; and AV XYZ detect it, that does not mean that AV XYZ is good... One must know that, there are different type of Virus, and some might be good at detecting Virus A but some might be good at detecting virus Z... and some are capable to detect virus variant without updating it signature/database... All software do have bug; NOD32, Kaspersky, Bitdefender etc etc all have it, U don't have to worry, at least they are open to public and there are users and developers willing to assist you.

When choosing an AV... look into their respond time in updating new signature/database, next will be the resource usage, easy of use... lastly the confident U have for that Brand.

Security is a Process not a Product...;)

now no confidence in any leh .
cos 2 years having a really been experience with Panda , than now Norton m

hmmm but since alot of people recommend KIS than maybe lor
:s22:
though all is not 100% safe

[ASM_HWZ]

now no confidence in any leh .hmmm... its common when come to choosing Av and Firewall
cos 2 years having a really been experience with Panda , than now Norton mPanda used to be a good AV but...recent versions are really a let down... Norton has improve a lot, that's a sure thing. Many years back, they are not even in top 5 on the VB test result; but now they are back in business and is doing good...

hmmm but since alot of people recommend KIS than maybe lor
:s22:
though all is not 100% safeOK, go for KIS then, seem NOD32 Ver 3 still got some bugs and will be reduces as time goes by... and Bitdefender gave False Positive now and then... you can go for KIS but remember to hang around their forums. Users there are friendly:), nothing to hide from public... if there is bugs in beta or new build, they will alert you; and at least you know you are not alone...;)

[erwinrommel]

KIS 7 3 license now costs $75 instead of $38. :s22: Didn't have the chance to stockpile them.

[Jas007]

KIS 7 3 license now costs $75 instead of $38. :s22: Didn't have the chance to stockpile them.

u mean at challenger ?
wat abt Software Boutique ?

[ballastic90]

hmmm... its common when come to choosing Av and Firewall
Panda used to be a good AV but...recent versions are really a let down... Norton has improve a lot, that's a sure thing. Many years back, they are not even in top 5 on the VB test result; but now they are back in business and is doing good...
OK, go for KIS then, seem NOD32 Ver 3 still got some bugs and will be reduces as time goes by... and Bitdefender gave False Positive now and then... you can go for KIS but remember to hang around their forums. Users there are friendly:), nothing to hide from public... if there is bugs in beta or new build, they will alert you; and at least you know you are not alone...;)

but 1 thing good about norton ish that not alot of pop out leh
all automatic configure whichj programs can access the net
guess thats just the good point about it
:s22:
think go KIS is the best choice among all liao bah

[Jas007]

but 1 thing good about norton ish that not alot of pop out leh
all automatic configure whichj programs can access the net
guess thats just the good point about it
:s22:
think go KIS is the best choice among all liao bah

read 2 posts up before yours ...
i hope you are still able to get it at <$40

good luck bro :)

[a024601976]

but 1 thing good about norton ish that not alot of pop out leh
all automatic configure whichj programs can access the net
guess thats just the good point about it
:s22:
think go KIS is the best choice among all liao bah

You can set it to not show any popup or which ever ones you wanna see. It is totally customizable :). But i personally i rather see a popup of an issue rather than have the program not tell me anything till it is too late.

[ov2rey]

anti virus still so expensive... since ram drop so much never see any antivirus price drop like ram price....................

[a024601976]

anti virus still so expensive... since ram drop so much never see any antivirus price drop like ram price....................

Well if you look at the old antivirus software (pre year 2000). We are getting more features and stuff for the same amount of money. Similarly for ram ... we are getting more GIGs per dollar :) ..

[ballastic90]

Well if you look at the old antivirus software (pre year 2000). We are getting more features and stuff for the same amount of money. Similarly for ram ... we are getting more GIGs per dollar :) ..

but for norton , not much improvment leh :s22:
instead got worst

[ballastic90]

wah
today went funan see .
KIS going for 79.

dunno whether want to but not leh
got 1 package AcronisTrueImage with Bitdefender going for 79dollars leh
looks tempting
but now realise that alot of internet security suites comes with lots of features we the causal users no need de leh

PARENTAL CONTROL
ANTI PHISPISHING
ANIT SPAM
Online identity protection and so on
all these consume resources de right ?

btw
does anyone knows whether KIS tech support is good ?

[Jas007]

wah
today went funan see .
KIS going for 79.

u procrastinated lah ... missed the boat (KIS promo) liao
that time only $38.50
your best bet now is Software Boutique ... $64
cos i wanted to buy another one ... and missed the boat too lol

[ballastic90]

u procrastinated lah ... missed the boat (KIS promo) liao
that time only $38.50
your best bet now is Software Boutique ... $64
cos i wanted to buy another one ... and missed the boat too lol

hmmm
wasted !!:s22:

btw

out of all the suites, which has the best virus detection and intrusion rates ah ?
( nvm about resources hog or big space )

went to funan and
saw that bitdefender BOX behind they put Kapersky the worst among all leh :)

[Jas007]

hmmm
wasted !!:s22:

btw

out of all the suites, which has the best virus detection and intrusion rates ah ?
( nvm about resources hog or big space )

went to funan and
saw that bitdefender BOX behind they put Kapersky the worst among all leh :)

as mentioned before by some bros here, no one suite is able to detect every virus
Kaspersky is one of the best in that it has one of the largest virus databases

best way to avoid being hit by virus is not to open email attachments (esp .exe files), avoid using freewares (free programs until you google to verify that it comes without all the wares with it), and dont dl program files from torrents etc

as for bitdefender, you need a 'powerful' pc
if not u will suffer from slowdowns
best to try the trial versions of the one you consider buying first, that way you dont waste your $$

[ballastic90]

saw from this website review , that guy said :

I chose the option to prompt for actions on completion of the scan, thinking I'd get a list of found threats and a chance to determine their fate. That's what most scanners do. Instead, KIS7 displayed a pop-up for each threat asking what to do with it. Kaspersky technicians confirmed that's how the program is supposed to work, but I don't like it.

so alot of pop out will be expected ??:s22:
so out of all, KIS would be the less rescoures hogging ?
KIS ?:s22:


and btw ,
if i remove my norton 360, still need download the removal tool ah?

[ballastic90]

wahh
Kaspersky not so good leh ??

laptop infected with spyware ( lots of pop out even though never open anything )
scan with KIS , still got pop out leh
somemore updating from database is slow and so does scanning.
1hour plus
and one more thing , lots of pop out for msn .
each converstion sure do have 1 pop out =(

:s22:

[a024601976]

wahh
Kaspersky not so good leh ??

laptop infected with spyware ( lots of pop out even though never open anything )
scan with KIS , still got pop out leh
somemore updating from database is slow and so does scanning.
1hour plus
and one more thing , lots of pop out for msn .
each converstion sure do have 1 pop out =(

:s22:

You have to thank your old antivirus for all those spyware. To remove them best if you turn off the auto restore in windows xp/me and reboot into safe mode and do a full scan there. Windows tend to restore files for whatever reason. Once your windows is clean you should be fine. I get no popups from mine but that's because i installed over a clean windows.

[GetaBlue]

Oii, 9 pages of posts and only 15 plp voted, the rest leh?

[MPH]

Just tested McAfee total protection 2008. It is faster and responsive. Have sample trail a few virus AUTO.INF and trojans.PSW, it detects immediately.

[ballastic90]

Oii, 9 pages of posts and only 15 plp voted, the rest leh?

hahahahaha
everyone is MIAING liao


:yawn::s22:

[ballastic90]

Just tested McAfee total protection 2008. It is faster and responsive. Have sample trail a few virus AUTO.INF and trojans.PSW, it detects immediately.

what about McAfee detection rate ah ?
anyone using it?

ok not?:s22:

[ballastic90]

how come kaspersky block off youtube videos ?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/hyperX88/Untitled-2.jpg?t=1211543702

[hlots123]

do u google? http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=33202

[erwinrommel]

Hi Ballistic 90, I can see that you are really struggling what to do with KIS7.0. Most of the symptoms that you encounter like KIS block off youtube, etc is simply because you do not know how to configure.

Spend a few moment to

1) remove any single trace of your previous anti-virus by downloading their un-installer

2) Use CCleaner to remove invalid registry entries

3) Do a clean KIS7.0 installation if needed to

The pop-ups can be reduced by adding them into trusted zones. Check that your Proactive Defense under the "Application Integrity Control" is not ticked. If there are some images that cannot be viewed (red cross instead of a picture originally), disable anti-banner. If you feel that the scan is too slow, reduce the heuristic settings and don't concede to other resources. If you don't know what I am talking, I suggest you use another anti-virus. :s22:

KIS is not really meant for novice users or impatient users who don't wish to spend time configuring.

[ballastic90]

Hi Ballistic 90, I can see that you are really struggling what to do with KIS7.0. Most of the symptoms that you encounter like KIS block off youtube, etc is simply because you do not know how to configure.

Spend a few moment to

1) remove any single trace of your previous anti-virus by downloading their un-installer

2) Use CCleaner to remove invalid registry entries

3) Do a clean KIS7.0 installation if needed to

The pop-ups can be reduced by adding them into trusted zones. Check that your Proactive Defense under the "Application Integrity Control" is not ticked. If there are some images that cannot be viewed (red cross instead of a picture originally), disable anti-banner. If you feel that the scan is too slow, reduce the heuristic settings and don't concede to other resources. If you don't know what I am talking, I suggest you use another anti-virus. :s22:

KIS is not really meant for novice users or impatient users who don't wish to spend time configuring.

wah
tried norton internet security 08 trial verison , seems pretty alright leis. but will seriously slow down alot on my computer guess due to old age of my com or something including boot time and slows down even more when scanning for virus .
so what u guys recommend for antivirus thats light weight and detection rate is very good ?
but the best thing about NIS is the pop up for now is not even 1 !? thats pretty good unlike others which keeps poping out leiss.
so what to hoot at PCSHOW ???

:look::s13:

[ahger_2311]

can recommend solid one yet wun lag my com so much or require alot of config?

[ballastic90]

can recommend solid one yet wun lag my com so much or require alot of config?

think for antivirus would be Nod32 liao .
good detection rate and lightweight

but what about firewall??


:s22:

[Swordsman]

which is the best among these 3 secuirty suite ? Bit defender, Kaspersky and nod32 ? headache choosing. you guys bought the package or the anti-virus stand alone ?

[ahger_2311]

think for antivirus would be Nod32 liao .
good detection rate and lightweight

but what about firewall??


:s22:

hey. i went to nod32 weby. wanted to buy online but notice got few types. which is the one u recommend for nod32?

[wiShfulStone]

The new KIS2009 feels much faster than version 7, plus don't forget, can try out with 6 month trial :D
http://www.kaspersky.com/de/20814_72814_329

[ballastic90]

The new KIS2009 feels much faster than version 7, plus don't forget, can try out with 6 month trial :D
http://www.kaspersky.com/de/20814_72814_329

izzit still in beta??

[wiShfulStone]

izzit still in beta??

Nope, officially out

[Jas007]

Nope, officially out

any bugs or dislikes abt the new version ?
holding back updating my ver 7

[lucied]

Use Kaspersky 8 + some other Firewall. Don't use those bundled antivirus/antimalware with firewall built in.

[ballastic90]

Use Kaspersky 8 + some other Firewall. Don't use those bundled antivirus/antimalware with firewall built in.

why ?
kaspersky firewall not good?

[wiShfulStone]

any bugs or dislikes abt the new version ?
holding back updating my ver 7

Seems better to me compared to .325 of version 7.. much faster. Only glitch I noticed was the graphs sometimes disappear, but its a small problem, no one really looks at it the whole day..

[Jas007]

Seems better to me compared to .325 of version 7.. much faster. Only glitch I noticed was the graphs sometimes disappear, but its a small problem, no one really looks at it the whole day..

thanks for the feedback :)
might upgrade one of my systems to v2009 for trial first :D

[Jas007]

ok i updated one of my machines from KIS 7 to KIS 2009 ...
major dislike :
Firewall Filtration Rules ...
this new interface is too damn complicated unlike the previous one ...
when you need to DENY certain programs from accessing the internet

certainly needs some getting used to ... whereas KIS 7, i had no problems setting up at all

holding back upgrading of other systems till i am able to tackle this problem of restricting programs

[ballastic90]

ok i updated one of my machines from KIS 7 to KIS 2009 ...
major dislike :
Firewall Filtration Rules ...
this new interface is too damn complicated unlike the previous one ...
when you need to DENY certain programs from accessing the internet

certainly needs some getting used to ... whereas KIS 7, i had no problems setting up at all

holding back upgrading of other systems till i am able to tackle this problem of restricting programs

hmmm
what about the likes of KIS 2009?
the good points ??

[aaaaaaaaaa]

I'm shopping for AV and came across the charts below and wonder how's ur opinions?

http://www.eset.com/images/Missed-In-the-Wild-Viruses.jpg

http://www.eset.com/images/VB-tests-passed.jpg

Those were extracted from eset webpage (http://www.eset.com/products/compare-NOD32-vs-competition.php).

[PsyNidE]

Login to Virus Bulletin site itself to verify the claim of ESET. www.virusbtn.com

You need to register and login to see the statistics

[ballastic90]

I'm shopping for AV and came across the charts below and wonder how's ur opinions?

http://www.eset.com/images/Missed-In-the-Wild-Viruses.jpg

http://www.eset.com/images/VB-tests-passed.jpg

Those were extracted from eset webpage (http://www.eset.com/products/compare-NOD32-vs-competition.php).

wahs
wonder izzit accurate ?
Norton actually is second ??
surprise surprised
:s22:

[BaLtO]

Then go install norton

[hlots123]

I'm shopping for AV and came across the charts below and wonder how's ur opinions?Yes eset & norton do well at vb100. But dun use the graph for comparing among the OTHERS since the graph is cumulative, u dun know if the failures were gathered recently or many years ago (irrelevant now).

Also look at results from a spread of tests, & try to understand a little abt the testbeds or procedures. For example, vb100 testbed is very small iirc, also dun contain trojans or droppers i think. Eg, one perspective offered here, http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/wildlist-battles.html

[Jas007]

wahs
wonder izzit accurate ?
Norton actually is second ??
surprise surprised
:s22:

u were Norton user ...
u should know how 'good' it really is/was (where applicable)
the least you could do is not to mislead "aaaaaaaa"

[ballastic90]

u were Norton user ...
u should know how 'good' it really is/was (where applicable)
the least you could do is not to mislead "aaaaaaaa"


Then go install norton

no thanks
1yr with norton is more than enuf
:s22::yawn:
but wonder norton version 2.0 ok not?
anyone tried liao??

[Jas007]

no thanks
1yr with norton is more than enuf
:s22::yawn:
but wonder norton version 2.0 ok not?
anyone tried liao??

:s13: u try and then let us know
i for one will never go back to Norton (or Symantec) for that matter
once bitten, thrice shy :D

btw, what u using now ?

[ballastic90]

:s13: u try and then let us know
i for one will never go back to Norton (or Symantec) for that matter
once bitten, thrice shy :D

btw, what u using now ?

for now still nothing lor
surviving on windows firewall only
1month plus liao
still cannot decide leh
haiz


hopefully wun have any problems bahs
:s22:

muahahaha

[hlots123]

still cannot decide leh
haizlol, now pg11 liao! :s22:

[Jas007]

lol, now pg11 liao! :s22:

:s13: INDEED ! :s22:

[aaaaaaaaaa]

Login to Virus Bulletin site itself to verify the claim of ESET. www.virusbtn.com

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Yes eset & norton do well at vb100. But dun use the graph for comparing among the OTHERS since the graph is cumulative, u dun know if the failures were gathered recently or many years ago (irrelevant now).

Also look at results from a spread of tests, & try to understand a little abt the testbeds or procedures. For example, vb100 testbed is very small iirc, also dun contain trojans or droppers i think. Eg, one perspective offered here, http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/wildlist-battles.html

Thanks for those informative links:)

I was using NAV corp edition for 3yrs before my pc got messed up by malware. Source of malware was from a =:pwebsite. Now i've safeguarded pc with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript and on KAV7 trial -11th day.

For KAV i've encountered my folder by the name of 'security' has produced error. I've to rename it to 'se_curity' sort of to access it. Also caught a trojan in a subsubfolder while opening it. All these while under default recommended settings.

[Jas007]

Thanks for those informative links:)

I was using NAV corp edition for 3yrs before my pc got messed up by malware. Source of malware was from a =:pwebsite. Now i've safeguarded pc with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript and on KAV7 trial -11th day.

For KAV i've encountered my folder by the name of 'security' has produced error. I've to rename it to 'se_curity' sort of to access it. Also caught a trojan in a subsubfolder while opening it. All these while under default recommended settings.

u do know that the one most dangerous source of malwares, spywares, kitchenwares, housewares, etc etc :s13: are those =:psites
try not going to them and you'll be safe
no amount of protection will guarantee your system stays safe 100%
just like sex, doesnt mean using a cap makes u 100% safe :D

[ballastic90]

Thanks for those informative links:)

I was using NAV corp edition for 3yrs before my pc got messed up by malware. Source of malware was from a =:pwebsite. Now i've safeguarded pc with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript and on KAV7 trial -11th day.

For KAV i've encountered my folder by the name of 'security' has produced error. I've to rename it to 'se_curity' sort of to access it. Also caught a trojan in a subsubfolder while opening it. All these while under default recommended settings.

wah
use until so much protection ah ??:s22:

wun they conflict with each other later?

[aaaaaaaaaa]

My reason for visiting :osites was to test my system immunity:D But too bad I've forgotten that site's address.

Well now, with with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript turned on together, my laptop is much healthier than i am:)

Only problem is KAV trial is slowing down my comp. I'm going to try Nod32 trial to see how?

[Jas007]

...... Well now, with with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript turned on together, my laptop is much healthier than i am:)

what's wrong with your health ? :D
or is it due to a lack of 'exercise' since you forgotten the :osites' address(es) ? :D :s13:

[aaaaaaaaaa]

My health? I got messed up with high temperature by eating too much chocolate and took 1 full week to get recovered. My computer got back to condition within 24hr since malware attacked.

Lesson learned: Body requires regular excercises; Computer - You knew the ans...:)

[erwinrommel]

My reason for visiting :osites was to test my system immunity:D But too bad I've forgotten that site's address.

Well now, with with XP SP3, Spybot, Spywareblaster, MS AntiSpyware, Firefox3 browser w/NoScript turned on together, my laptop is much healthier than i am:)

Only problem is KAV trial is slowing down my comp. I'm going to try Nod32 trial to see how?

How does KAV slow down your computer? Other than the initial startup which is slightly longer due to the updates, the rest should be OK right? I am typing this post while doing a full system scan.

[kai_87]

1 thing i wan to know, it is recommend to get a paid AntiVirus than those free AntiVirus?

[PsyNidE]

1 thing i wan to know, it is recommend to get a paid AntiVirus than those free AntiVirus?
From the reviews that I've read, the detection rate of Paid AVs are better than those Free AVs.

[ballastic90]

From the reviews that I've read, the detection rate of Paid AVs are better than those Free AVs.

1 thing i wan to know, it is recommend to get a paid AntiVirus than those free AntiVirus?

but depends on which anti virus u are talking abt also right?
but one of the most solid free antivirus is AVG ???

[PsyNidE]

but depends on which anti virus u are talking abt also right?
but one of the most solid free antivirus is AVG ???
The last time I used Free AVG when it was still ver 6 i think, it detected a virus which the program wasn't able to delete it. I need to purge away the infected file manually from windows explorer. For free AVs, I still prefer Avast over AVG. I've not tried Avira. I've also used NOD32 and Kaspersky. I kind of prefer NOD32. Someday I will switch back to Eset Smart Security once my KIS 2009 licence expires in 2010.

[WhiteFox]

AntiVir Premium Security Suite, any users here? I'm using the free version and I'm happy with it. Wonder if the Premium Security suite is worth the moolah to get

[ballastic90]

AntiVir Premium Security Suite, any users here? I'm using the free version and I'm happy with it. Wonder if the Premium Security suite is worth the moolah to get

seems like no1 using it leh .
anyway is that resources hog ??

The last time I used Free AVG when it was still ver 6 i think, it detected a virus which the program wasn't able to delete it. I need to purge away the infected file manually from windows explorer. For free AVs, I still prefer Avast over AVG. I've not tried Avira. I've also used NOD32 and Kaspersky. I kind of prefer NOD32. Someday I will switch back to Eset Smart Security once my KIS 2009 licence expires in 2010.


now AVG still free?

[ASM_HWZ]

Zone Alarm using Kaspersky engine, maybe 0.5 vote should be given to KIS 7.

[ASM_HWZ]

1 thing i wan to know, it is recommend to get a paid AntiVirus than those free AntiVirus?Update priority is given to the paid one. So in worse scenario, aggressive virus with variants that need to update few times a day for some AV... this will be a loose out.

[ducth1vs1]

KIS is one of the best All-in-one security! Recommended!

[Jas007]

KIS is one of the best All-in-one security! Recommended!

yeah, finally upgraded all my KIS 7 to KIS 2009

[ballastic90]

KIS is one of the best All-in-one security! Recommended!

yeah, finally upgraded all my KIS 7 to KIS 2009

is the 9 series of KIS resource hog?
install kis 7 on my laptop , on slowed down alot leh
especially when scanning virus:s22:

[erwinrommel]

is the 9 series of KIS resource hog?
install kis 7 on my laptop , on slowed down alot leh
especially when scanning virus:s22:

KIS 2009 is faster than KIS 7. In fact, the user interface is nicer and has more features.

But then I am trying to figure out how to configure the firewall. KIS7 firewall is easier to configure. You either allow it to access, or just simply block it. :o

[PsyNidE]

seems like no1 using it leh .
anyway is that resources hog ??




now AVG still free?
AVG got ver 8 free edition mah ...

[Jas007]

*EDITED this original post*
haha ... i faced that problem too when i migrated to v2009
thing is you must not put your programs into Untrusted
if you must, try Restricted or Low-Restricted
then select Deny under Network tab

ok allow me to elaborate ...
select Application Filtering (under System Security)
Settings
click on Settings button next to "Enable Application Filtering"
if your application is not already included anywhere, decide which group (Trusted/High Restricted, etc) you wanna place your program to be filtered into click "Add" at bottom
once done, to modify its internet/network access rules, just Right-Click its Networks

[snipes14]

From the reviews that I've read, the detection rate of Paid AVs are better than those Free AVs.

Well when you think about it, if a free AV can be better than a paid AV, then all the paid AVs will go out of business.

It's just like how Cabal Online will never be better than World of Warcraft, ever.

[ballastic90]

AVG got ver 8 free edition mah ...
that 1 quite ok right?
think dl that 1 liao bahs

Well when you think about it, if a free AV can be better than a paid AV, then all the paid AVs will go out of business.

It's just like how Cabal Online will never be better than World of Warcraft, ever.

actually it depends also right?

some free ones performs better when catching in the 'wild' virus .
btw , what is heuristic scan ?
is that good?

:s13:

[lonely5]

does anyone knows whether nod32 is good ?
between nod32 and this
:)

[PsyNidE]

ur comparing between NOD32 and ?

[ballastic90]

think will hoot at COMEX liao

anyone knows f secure anitvirus?
that one ok not ??


:yawn:

[erwinrommel]

think will hoot at COMEX liao

anyone knows f secure anitvirus?
that one ok not ??


:yawn:

Its using Kaspersky scan engine if I am not wrong.

[aaaaaaaaaa]

How does KAV slow down your computer? Other than the initial startup which is slightly longer due to the updates, the rest should be OK right? I am typing this post while doing a full system scan.

I'm not sure what exactly was hogging my computer with KAV but it truly bugged on me. I've not had similar encounter while using NAV. Just tested with nod32 although it works smoothly, too bad the trial periods was very short. I can't really tell much from such a short trial.:s27:

[ASM_HWZ]

AVG Paid vs Free (http://download.grisoft.cz/softw/70/filedir/presale/cmpsheets/mm_pfp_cmp_us_2.pdf)


Support for alternate update servers(Paid)Yes
(Free)Not available

Virus/program updates via Internet(Paid)High-speed and high-capacity download serves
(Free)Non-priority download servers

Scheduled update frequency(Paid)Flexible scheduling of updates
(Free)Once a day

Scheduled scanning frequency(Paid)Flexible scheduling of scanning
(Free)Once a day

Detection of Potentially Unwanted Programs(Paid)Yes
(Free)Not available

[MPH]

I'm not sure what exactly was hogging my computer with KAV but it truly bugged on me. I've not had similar encounter while using NAV. Just tested with nod32 although it works smoothly, too bad the trial periods was very short. I can't really tell much from such a short trial.:s27:

You mean slow or hanged ?

[ballastic90]

I'm not sure what exactly was hogging my computer with KAV but it truly bugged on me. I've not had similar encounter while using NAV. Just tested with nod32 although it works smoothly, too bad the trial periods was very short. I can't really tell much from such a short trial.:s27:

i'm using the 6 months on a laptop ,
and quite true, its slows down alot leh.
especially when booting up , maybe its due to my processor or the startup scan which is a pain at times
:s13:

[lonely5]

ur comparing between NOD32 and ?

sorry for the late reply
nod32 and AVG free edition

which is lighter on resources?and good detection rate?

[PsyNidE]

sorry for the late reply
nod32 and AVG free edition

which is lighter on resources?and good detection rate?
of coz NOD32 is better than AVG free edition but you'll need to pay for NOD32

[lonely5]

of coz NOD32 is better than AVG free edition but you'll need to pay for NOD32
oh i c..

AVG Paid vs Free (http://download.grisoft.cz/softw/70/filedir/presale/cmpsheets/mm_pfp_cmp_us_2.pdf)


Support for alternate update servers(Paid)Yes
(Free)Not available

Virus/program updates via Internet(Paid)High-speed and high-capacity download serves
(Free)Non-priority download servers

Scheduled update frequency(Paid)Flexible scheduling of updates
(Free)Once a day

Scheduled scanning frequency(Paid)Flexible scheduling of scanning
(Free)Once a day

Detection of Potentially Unwanted Programs(Paid)Yes
(Free)Not available


does daily updates really helps?
think update once a week is more than enough right?

[rabboni]

is nod 32 'easier' to use than kaspersky?
as in having to tweak the settings n configs wise

[jtjt00]

Any1 knows in sls.. which shops got sell bitdefender suite.
You can get it from Challenger or Tec-Drome.

[PsyNidE]

is nod 32 'easier' to use than kaspersky?
as in having to tweak the settings n configs wise
Both have their own support forums for you to check out if you intend to tweak them. you can just follow the screenshots.

[Malakite]

Hey guys, I've just switched over from a Mac to a windows based laptop.

So i'm actually a bit 'lost'. What would my completely new Virgin laptop need in terms of 'defense' software? I'm still using the Mac now, so I haven't connected the new Lappy to the internet yet.

[ballastic90]

Hey guys, I've just switched over from a Mac to a windows based laptop.

So i'm actually a bit 'lost'. What would my completely new Virgin laptop need in terms of 'defense' software? I'm still using the Mac now, so I haven't connected the new Lappy to the internet yet.

Get norton 360 2.0
Not bad
big improvments over 1.0
:s13:

[tingyuan]

any recommended antivirus, i currently using Norton Internet Security, but it always block clubbox.exe, quite irratating.

i need to buy antivirus before uninstall Norton Internet Security,

[tech_specialist]

there r many gr8 antiviruses that u can buy , like nod32 / avg / norton 2009 (havnt used it , but many says its really excellent and impressive )
dont use free antiviruses , they r nothing more than viruses !

[ASM_HWZ]

any recommended antivirus, i currently using Norton Internet Security, but it always block clubbox.exe, quite irratating.

i need to buy antivirus before uninstall Norton Internet Security,Isn't there a function for you to allow clubbox.exe...

[eventidephoenix]

eh dun get nod32... it's terrible... didn't even properly block an autorun virus... had a hectic afternoon cleaning everything up

[MPH]

eh dun get nod32... it's terrible... didn't even properly block an autorun virus... had a hectic afternoon cleaning everything up

It dont blocks, it kills the autorun virus. :D

[silverstone]

Hi guys, sorry for digging this thread, but i would like to ask for recommendation/opinion on anti virus/ internet security.

Currently using norton internet security 2008, but going to expire soon, so im considering either bit defender internet security 2009 or norton internet security 2009. My house has got 2 PCs.

so wat do u guys think ? :)

[akloaklo]

why are people getting those "security suites"

Free firewall/antivirus programs works better.

[erwinrommel]

why are people getting those "security suites"

Free firewall/antivirus programs works better.

The poll results don't lie. :o

I have tried using free AVG before, but I gave up and switched to Kaspersky IS. And what a world of difference as compared to McAfee, AVG, and Norton!

[eventidephoenix]

It dont blocks, it kills the autorun virus. :D

didnt kill...

why are people getting those "security suites"

Free firewall/antivirus programs works better.

very true... avira / comodo... however, i dont wanna risk incompatibility or conflicts :o

Trying Norton 09 next... cannot stand nod32's incompetencies... heard that they rewrote the UI so much so it is no longer as computer-taxing as before... norton has always been infamous for being a bloatware :o

[eventidephoenix]

The poll results don't lie. :o

I have tried using free AVG before, but I gave up and switched to Kaspersky IS. And what a world of difference as compared to McAfee, AVG, and Norton!

well AV sites have tested and kaspersky is on par with AVG free and beaten hands down by avira :s34:

[a024601976]

well AV sites have tested and kaspersky is on par with AVG free and beaten hands down by avira :s34:

Not too sure what you are smoking but AVG is crap (avast is better if you want a free one). AVG has tons of false alarms and is pretty slow at scanning. I'm sure they are working at getting to 100% detection by getting very high false alarms :).

[benghacks]

AV is useless today. U need something which detects behaviour. Sadly if u hate vista uac, u'll hate a true behaviour program. the irony is of cuz that's the real type of protection u need.

[singaporesuperboy]

I always associate virus detection rate with a running tap.

To determine if a file is malicious depends on the detection algorithem right? To improve detection rate, all need to be done is open the tap and naturally, your pail will collect more water...

To get a good antivurs solution, do more reading and understand how the technology works... trust me... eye opener!

[ceecookie]

Is there any (antivirus)performance for Norton 360 ver 3 over AVG internet security and McAfee Enterprise? I have a complimentary 1 year copy and is intending to switch once my AVG expires(McAfee is for life)

[ballastic90]

Is there any (antivirus)performance for Norton 360 ver 3 over AVG internet security and McAfee Enterprise? I have a complimentary 1 year copy and is intending to switch once my AVG expires(McAfee is for life)

Norton is your best bet:s12: