Starhub upgrade Ultimate plan to 10mbps upstream

[misato]

Don't know if i'm WOLS a not, but i notice that Starhub has officially upgrade their plans upstream speed. Those on ultimate will get a speed bump to 10mbps and those on the lower plans will get a 1mbps upstream.

Official link:
http://www.starhub.com/portal/site/Online/menuitem.f2b59af84f3db376da055b608324a5a0/?vgnextoid=4ce653a58baeb010VgnVCM10000038425a0aRCRD

[liangtam]

chiu ish wolswolswols :D

cant rly hit 10mbps(atm)

[NWT1978]

wow that nice of them :D

if only pacnet will do it too but also on their download :s34:

since complaining to them speed have stable again :s34:

[albertchng]

Good luck to Starhub... :s8:

Take care hor, subscribers of Starhub... :s13:

[richneo]

chiu ish wolswolswols :D

cant rly hit 10mbps(atm)
yar lor

i oni got a max of around 8mbps

[kivine]

yar lor

i oni got a max of around 8mbps

global upload?


my max was 3mbps, global upload.

my local upload - 8mbps though.

[n95crazy]

actually technically you'll never get 10mbps upload becos of how tcp/ip works and the way acknowledge flags are sent... thus the higher the speed, the more the ack flags and seq flags therefore a lower thruput...

that is, if you be testing 56k, you'll be getting maybe 54k max - difference of 2k
but if you tested 560k, difference is 20k
if you tested 56000, difference is 2000k
which will seem more significant overall

[misato]

8mbps effective is nearly good enough for streaming 720p HD video to 1 local user.

[kenloonglow]

wow...the rusty green pipe want to lure more "water-fish" to jammed the traffic? :D

[liangtam]

actually technically you'll never get 10mbps upload becos of how tcp/ip works and the way acknowledge flags are sent... thus the higher the speed, the more the ack flags and seq flags therefore a lower thruput...

that is, if you be testing 56k, you'll be getting maybe 54k max - difference of 2k
but if you tested 560k, difference is 20k
if you tested 56000, difference is 2000k
which will seem more significant overall

practically, exceeding 100Mbps on the Fat green pipe is possible and someone in this forum have done it.
Setting a limit cap of higher than 100mbps - accounting of inclusion of overhead will allowing customer to see its not fake as unlike what you've described.

You work for the Green you should know mah. Oops, I forgot to realize you(or are told to) lie thru ur teeth.

[liangtam]

wow that nice of them :D

if only pacnet will do it too but also on their download :s34:

since complaining to them speed have stable again :s34:

Try ur upload again? :)
It might increase

[Computron]

yar lor

i oni got a max of around 8mbps


I can't get more than 2mbps... power off on oledi .....:look:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/358676996.png

[liangtam]

remove ur router

[Sendoh82]

no use de la. only on local sending.

sianz the only prog i use to send fren is msn. and the speed slow.... sianz

[Computron]

I can't get more than 2mbps... power off on oledi .....:look:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/358676996.png



Thanks liangtam.!
Reset QOS engine in router.
now still dont really get 10mpbs.... but better.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/358919825.png

[NWT1978]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/358925244.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

there morning one speed :s34:

not much increase in speed :s34:

[n95crazy]

practically, exceeding 100Mbps on the Fat green pipe is possible and someone in this forum have done it.
Setting a limit cap of higher than 100mbps - accounting of inclusion of overhead will allowing customer to see its not fake as unlike what you've described.

You work for the Green you should know mah. Oops, I forgot to realize you(or are told to) lie thru ur teeth.

it is common sense that if you where to imply that you are offering 10mbps upload speed, you'll offer 10mbps upload speed...

where is the logic to offer 12mbps upload speed and then advertise 10mbps instead!?!
i think this is common sense that somehow eludes you

[misato]

I think you should better define the term 10mbps upload speed.
To a end user common sense, the term simply means one can upload at up to 10mbps speed (ie 1280kbytes/s).

From your explanation, your referring to 10mbps upstream link speed. Meaning it is has a physical link speed of 10mbps, and that max transmission speed of data including all overheads over this link is 10mbps.

[richneo]

Thanks liangtam.!
Reset QOS engine in router.
now still dont really get 10mpbs.... but better.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/358919825.png
set ur qos upstream speed manually to 10mbps and above.

do not let it auto detect speed

[bykte]

Is this already in effect? For those with the Ultimate plan, can you actually achieve 10Mbps upload speed to another local user?

Thanks in advance.

[Computron]

set ur qos upstream speed manually to 10mbps and above.

do not let it auto detect speed

Hi richneo,

I had tried (1)to set to 20480kpbs. & also (2)disable QOS totally.

both scenario the upload test using speednet is still the same.

Will later try direct conn.

--
Direct Conn still the same upload speed....

[wildcat]

When my contract end, I am going to drop Starhub already. Keep bumping up speed, yet in actual usage seems like everything so much slower than back in the good ole days of 1.5Mbps. Or better, back in the days when still trial.

:s16: :s16: :s16:

[richneo]

Hi richneo,

I had tried (1)to set to 20480kpbs. & also (2)disable QOS totally.

both scenario the upload test using speednet is still the same.

Will later try direct conn.

--
Direct Conn still the same upload speed....
if direct connection also same speed, only thing that can help u is to contact starhub liaoz

[LemonT]

practically, exceeding 100Mbps on the Fat green pipe is possible and someone in this forum have done it.
Setting a limit cap of higher than 100mbps - accounting of inclusion of overhead will allowing customer to see its not fake as unlike what you've described.

You work for the Green you should know mah. Oops, I forgot to realize you(or are told to) lie thru ur teeth.

Wah evil leh u..:s13:
Anyway 10mbps is reachable, but not for all conditions. so your mileage may vary.
Most of the time the upstream server are the limiting factor.

I used a SNBB 10mbps plan to ftp download from a MOL-U with 10mbps upload. I can get 8+mbps, good enough already lar. =:p

[CI]

it is common sense that if you where to imply that you are offering 10mbps upload speed, you'll offer 10mbps upload speed...

where is the logic to offer 12mbps upload speed and then advertise 10mbps instead!?!
i think this is common sense that somehow eludes you

Under Promise and Over Deliver?

[liangtam]

Cannot reach leh, i oso onli saw 8mbps oso.
unless the dl cap has extra assigned for overhead while ul does not

[phuque99]

Possible your test flawed? Should ask 1633 or starhub marketing what's their test tool. One use centimeter, the other use inches, like chicken and duck talk :D

[Sendoh82]

set ur qos upstream speed manually to 10mbps and above.

do not let it auto detect speed

eh using dir 655. need to set also?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/359584791.png

[n95crazy]

Under Promise and Over Deliver?

precisely!
some people talk until like during the days of 56k modem, they were actually getting 89k bandwidth to support their 56k activities...

somehow common sense eludes them that this is what ALL ISPs have been providing all along...

[n95crazy]

Cannot reach leh, i oso onli saw 8mbps oso.
unless the dl cap has extra assigned for overhead while ul does not

for your info there's almost no download cap becos of the very large bandwith that you have been offered...

infact it is already very surprising that people can reach 8mbps from test sites...
imagine if you are the network administrator of the test site,

given that at any 1 time there'll be an estimated 10 people testing their connection speeds, the bandwidth that your must allocate to support these 10 people is 10mbps x 10 = 100mbps for upload AND download therefore total combined bandwith is 200mbps

allowance for overheads + extra factors, you'll need around 300mbps to be efficient and effective...

couple bandwidth costs with server, maintenance, software, data warehouse costs... from a practical point of view, which test server would be rich enough to constantly allocate 300mbps for testing!?

if you can hit 8mbps upstream it's already clap hand for you...
for a more practical test case, use icq and perform file transfer to a friend within singapore...

[liangtam]

if you can hit 8mbps upstream it's already clap hand for you...
for a more practical test case, use icq and perform file transfer to a friend within singapore...

clap hands for me for what? im not interested in fat green pipe cos latency high :)

if i told u the practical test is done based on what you've described, what say u? :yawn:

[n95crazy]

clap hands for me for what? im not interested in fat green pipe cos latency high :)

if i told u the practical test is done based on what you've described, what say u? :yawn:

then 2 thumbs up for starhub
this is a new era in singapore where we REALLY have broadband now!
wtf is 1mbps upload!?

as i've said before, i have used 56k modem to frag in cs and i was able to maintain 3:1 and above frag ratio... but when i play dota and i get backstabbed too often, i always blame the lag...

we all know that latency is only an excuse for unskilled losers...
but some people prefer to blame latency more than anything... :s22:

btw, i was [Elm]Godfather and [FragX]ponent later [;(]aRch@ng3L during those cs days...
on 56k i managed to hit top 3 weekly on sgwargamers.com...
if you could find the records, i'm sure you'll know i'm telling the truth :)

[ry0suk1]

they give from 2mbps to 10mbps but everyone getting 8mbps.. 8mbps is more then enuff to play local game lag free..
i can run BT and play game yet still lagless..
even play US server game i did get a good ping..
dont complain so much la.. must learn to be satisfied.
unless they give u half the speed of what u pay..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359892140.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359892974.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359893367.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359893896.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
the speedtest website not that true one..

[hengweychuan]

Some of my tests for references :)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/359902745.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359899591.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359895375.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359900166.png

[liangtam]

then 2 thumbs up for starhub
this is a new era in singapore where we REALLY have broadband now!
wtf is 1mbps upload!?

as i've said before, i have used 56k modem to frag in cs and i was able to maintain 3:1 and above frag ratio... but when i play dota and i get backstabbed too often, i always blame the lag...

we all know that latency is only an excuse for unskilled losers...
but some people prefer to blame latency more than anything... :s22:

btw, i was [Elm]Godfather and [FragX]ponent later [;(]aRch@ng3L during those cs days...
on 56k i managed to hit top 3 weekly on sgwargamers.com...
if you could find the records, i'm sure you'll know i'm telling the truth :)

yar, and during those days every tom dick and harry oso on par, cos using 56K also. :s22:

[glacieraze]

they give from 2mbps to 10mbps but everyone getting 8mbps.. 8mbps is more then enuff to play local game lag free..
i can run BT and play game yet still lagless..
even play US server game i did get a good ping..
dont complain so much la.. must learn to be satisfied.
unless they give u half the speed of what u pay..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359892140.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359892974.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359893367.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/359893896.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
the speedtest website not that true one..

A comparison between my Singnet 10Mbps. Look at the Ping.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/360206339.png


http://www.speedtest.net/result/360206997.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/360207429.png

[ry0suk1]

as ppl always says.. wan good ping move to singnet..
but seriously, how many really play alot of oversea game?

[n95crazy]

yar, and during those days every tom dick and harry oso on par, cos using 56K also. :s22:

empty vessels make the most noise
i refuse to talk to fools.

[MarineX]

empty vessels make the most noise
i refuse to talk to fools.

thumbs up, i agree on that.

[richneo]

empty vessels make the most noise
i refuse to talk to fools.

this is the best example from u