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1920_me
20-11-2008, 09:33 PM
PARIS (AP) -Arsenal captain William Gallas has called for the team's coveted young stars to toughen up and accept that having the stomach for a fight is just as important as silky skill if they want to win the Premier League title.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Gallas raised concerns that Arsenal's highly rated youngsters may not always have shown the necessary bite when it mattered this season. He also revealed there have been recent arguments among team members on and off the pitch.

"We have to understand that to be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight,'' Gallas told the AP. "We are coming up against teams who are not scared to play football against us, who are not scared to take us on at our place, and this is becoming dangerous for Arsenal.''

Arsenal lost its fourth game of the season - and its second at home after being unbeaten at the Emirates last season - 2-0 to Aston Villa last weekend, putting the Gunners already nine points behind Chelsea and Liverpool in the title race.

"We are not brave enough in battle. I think we need to be soldiers. We have to be warriors,'' Gallas said. "There are teams who can do it well against us, and we have to be able to face up to these attacks.

"That is how they will forge their character, and how they will get experience. Even though they've played a certain number of matches, they're still young and still learning,'' Gallas added.

Friction is creeping into the squad and Gallas says he sometimes feels out of touch.

Revealing for the first time how he broke up an argument when Arsenal drew 4-4 with bitter rival Tottenham, Gallas also said some Arsenal players were insulted by their own teammate during another match.

Gallas said he is speaking out because "there are things that can't be said and can't be tolerated'' and because he is fed up with taking the majority of criticism because he wears the captain's armband.

Gallas was criticized for a show of petulance last season when Arsenal conceded a late penalty against Birmingham. He feels it was justified at the time, but that the criticism has unfairly carried over into this season.

One incident this season greatly upset the France defender.

"When, as captain, some players come up to you and talk to you about a player ... complaining about him ... and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us,'' Gallas said. "There comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen.''

Gallas would not reveal the player's name, although he said the incident occurred during an attacking phase of play.

"I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I'm taking it all (the blame). It's very frustrating,'' he said. "I'm 31, the player is six years younger than me.''

Gallas also broke up an argument in the Arsenal changing rooms during the halftime interval against Spurs. Arsenal went on to throw away victory after leading 4-2 with just minutes remaining.

"There was a problem at halftime,'' Gallas said. "The only thing that I could say at halftime was 'Guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at halftime.'''

Gallas says Arsenal's young stars are not guaranteed to emulate Manchester United's golden generation - when David Beckham, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville all broke through from the youth ranks - just on talent alone.

"They can have (the same success). The problem is that the Manchester youngsters have been through something, they have won something,'' Gallas said. "

Big contracts - which Arsenal's teenage players have now, and United's starlets waited years for - may be a factor. "That makes the difference, perhaps. You can rest on your laurels, that's for sure,'' Gallas said, adding that eulogies over the team's future potential masks the fact that Arsenal are not winning anything.

Having won two league titles with Chelsea, Gallas is desperate for a trophy.
"I have to win something this year. I have to win something, Arsenal has to win something,'' Gallas said. "It's four or five years since Arsenal won anything - 2004 (the league title). That's nearly five years, and that's not good.''

Another season without silverware, Gallas said, "would be a kind of failure.''
Asked if he would leave the club if Arsenal does not win the title, Gallas kept his options open.

"We will have to see. We don't know what will happen between here and then,'' he said. "For me the title is not over, it's true that we are nine points behind Chelsea, but you have to be optimistic and you can't give up.

"(Four defeats is) a lot, but it's a long season. I think it will be very tight this year and we will have to hope that Chelsea draw a few games and have a few defeats.''

Arsenal travels to play Manchester City on Saturday, and then takes on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge the following week.

Two weeks ago, Arsenal silenced the critics with a 2-1 home win over European champion Manchester United that earned coach Arsene Wenger's team rave reviews, but Gallas was horrified to see the performance slip against Villa just one week later.

Wenger has stuck by his policy of nurturing young players despite criticism that he has not spent enough in the transfer market.

"If he's worried, he hides it well,'' Gallas said of Wenger.

Gallas, however, openly questioned the level of commitment shown against Villa.

"Maybe, against Manchester, it was the whole team that fought for
victory,'' Gallas said. "But when you stop fighting together, there comes a time when the midfield will sink, the defenders, unfortunately, can also sink. That's what happened against Villa.''

Arsenal lost the spine of its midfield - Gilberto Silva (32), Mathieu Flamini (24), Alexander Hleb (27) - at the end of last season, and a lack of maturity was clinically exposed by Villa.

The north London team took on Villa with Cesc Fabregas (21), Denilson (20), Abou Diaby (22) and Samir Nasri (21) in midfield.

He has a good point indeed, maybe its time for the player to reflect on themselves and make the change needed. He was either referring to Adebayor or RVP

ahgohgoh
20-11-2008, 10:28 PM
"I'm 31, the player is six years younger than me.''

humanc0w
20-11-2008, 11:25 PM
He should learn how his Ex-Chelsea team Terry takes blame for his team (Both Blues & England) & turns things around on his own effort.....even when John is really injured!

sugarkittyx
21-11-2008, 01:02 AM
i'm guessing who the player is..
either rvp or sagna.
does seem more likely to be rvp.

Carova.
21-11-2008, 01:06 AM
gallas noobz rehs...

Jackson Ng Ghim Pheng
21-11-2008, 01:22 AM
Should not come out in public like this to say about the club

but maybe the fans always blame him for lack of leadership and everything else on his head that why he can't stand it anymore.

Alpha_Hippo
21-11-2008, 07:24 AM
Feel it should be RVP. Adebayor got money happy liao.

othniel80
21-11-2008, 08:57 AM
I also think its RVP but i think he should be better to resolve this within Arsenal itself than "wash the dirty linen" in the public.

Asakura
21-11-2008, 09:29 AM
RVP looks more likely the villian then the rest in the list.

Asakura
21-11-2008, 09:42 AM
but maybe the fans always blame him for lack of leadership and everything else on his head that why he can't stand it anymore.

then again, as a captain, if you wanna make a point to your team and make it public.
don't go public and than hush hush on details.
"I have something great to share, but i'm not telling you what it is"
if you don't intend to tell the public who he is, then keep everything within your 4 walls.
just imagine, for EXAMPLE. terry/neville/gerrard comes out and say "someone in my team is distrupting the team with insults and comments. he's younger then me, im not telling who he is cuz i dont wan to be the bad guy. " sissy right?

Alpha_Hippo
21-11-2008, 10:35 AM
what u expect from french faggots?

Asakura
21-11-2008, 11:45 AM
what u expect from french faggots?

pls refrain from such comments

poring24
21-11-2008, 12:47 PM
most likely RVP. He's got quite a temper

Sagna, Eduardo, Eboue all seem like nice guys so i doubt any of them are

Maybe can be adebayor also, if gallas isn't very good at math

Jackson Ng Ghim Pheng
21-11-2008, 01:15 PM
then again, as a captain, if you wanna make a point to your team and make it public.
don't go public and than hush hush on details.
"I have something great to share, but i'm not telling you what it is"
if you don't intend to tell the public who he is, then keep everything within your 4 walls.
just imagine, for EXAMPLE. terry/neville/gerrard comes out and say "someone in my team is distrupting the team with insults and comments. he's younger then me, im not telling who he is cuz i dont wan to be the bad guy. " sissy right?

Gerrard never get the blame @ all don't worry

No 1 always put / point the blame towards terry and neville

but when everyone think that it is gallas at fault from the start then slowly realize it is not him only.

xavier4
21-11-2008, 01:53 PM
lol.. it all started from last season's birmingham match..

oh well.. but seriously.. i think the part of saying someone in arsenal is causing trouble is redundant..


if wan pick out who's the one the gallas is referring to.. hmmm.. i hope its not nasri.. i doubt is a french ba..

so i thinking its bendtner or RVP..

xavier4
21-11-2008, 01:57 PM
my bad.. gallas said its someone 6 yrs younger than him..

the most 'popular culpurit' are ade or rvp..

likely ba.. cause if u all notice.. after rvp score the 3rd goal for arsenal during tat match.. if i didnt remb wrong.. gallas didnt come celeb.. but what i remb correctly.. rvp and ade celebrate among themselves after tat

anfielder
21-11-2008, 02:00 PM
he really shouldn't be washing dirty linen in public. doesn't help the club at all.

othniel80
21-11-2008, 02:59 PM
incidentally, I wonder what Wenger has to say about Gallas' public antics?

1920_me
21-11-2008, 03:10 PM
lol.. it all started from last season's birmingham match..

oh well.. but seriously.. i think the part of saying someone in arsenal is causing trouble is redundant..


if wan pick out who's the one the gallas is referring to.. hmmm.. i hope its not nasri.. i doubt is a french ba..

so i thinking its bendtner or RVP..

Bendtner is 10 years younger than him. He says its an attacking player, so its either adebayor or RVP. More likely to be Adebayor to me...

Jian19
21-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Bendtner is 10 years younger than him. He says its an attacking player, so its either adebayor or RVP. More likely to be Adebayor to me...

think its RVP, rvp also got attitude problem ones

lyfeforce
21-11-2008, 03:58 PM
As much as I empathise with Gallas and his situation, he's hardly the leader figure that Arsenal sorely needs. I don't remember a match where he inspired those around him to play better. That is a key trait that captains/vice-captains like Terry, Beckham, Gary Neville, Gerrard, Carragher and Viera all had.

Dutch players are notorious for having attitude problems, one of the many reasons my beloved Netherlands has yet to win the World Cup. But players like Bergkamp, Overmars and van Bronckhorst were exceptional players with equally exceptional character.

Litmuss
21-11-2008, 05:57 PM
So glad gallas not at Chelsea anymore. :D

ahgohgoh
21-11-2008, 07:16 PM
So glad gallas not at Chelsea anymore. :D

i'm upset for the same matter :s13::s13:

1920_me
22-11-2008, 11:39 AM
Gallas dropped and stripped of captaincy

William Gallas has been dropped and stripped of the Arsenal captaincy, according to reports.

France Football claim that the outspoken defender has paid the price for his verbal attack on his Arsenal team-mates and will not appear in Saturday's trip to Manchester City and will be forced to relinquish the armband to either Gael Clichy or Manuel Almunia.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=594795&sec=england&cc=4716

anfielder
22-11-2008, 12:09 PM
what a mess. hope the gunners don't implode on themselves.

Boi_racer
22-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Gallas is a bad choice for the captain.. Shd have retain the captaincy with Giberto Silva, he left cos he was stripped of the armband, and have limited playing time..

The player he blame should most likely be RVP..

Boi_racer
22-11-2008, 07:14 PM
As much as I empathise with Gallas and his situation, he's hardly the leader figure that Arsenal sorely needs. I don't remember a match where he inspired those around him to play better. That is a key trait that captains/vice-captains like Terry, Beckham, Gary Neville, Gerrard, Carragher and Viera all had.

Dutch players are notorious for having attitude problems, one of the many reasons my beloved Netherlands has yet to win the World Cup. But players like Bergkamp, Overmars and van Bronckhorst were exceptional players with equally exceptional character.

Yup agree that dutch players are very problematic, they dun fight for the team cause. But Liverpool currently hav Kuyt who is a little different from typical dutch players, he work tirelessly for the team till he drops lol .:s13::s13:

1920_me
22-11-2008, 09:59 PM
Kuyt is not dutch..he is a spartan!

goukiakuma
23-11-2008, 04:00 AM
remind me of roy keane before he was terminated by man utd after outspoken :D

ahgohgoh
23-11-2008, 09:44 AM
remind me of roy keane before he was terminated by man utd after outspoken :D

yeah his contract was terminated prematurely but he was gonna leave after that season anyway...

wenger reacted (correctly) by dropping gallas out totally... let's see if he will select him again...

dreamer75
23-11-2008, 10:27 AM
Gallas accused teammates of lacking the fight necessary for success and of behaving disrespectfully to each other. Robin van Persie, Samir Nasri and Nicklas Bendtner are thought to be among those Gallas was talking about, although he declined to name anybody.

dreamer75
23-11-2008, 10:34 AM
November 23, 2008
Arsene Wenger: William Gallas must apologise to his teammates

Arsenal’s outspoken captain is given an ultimatum by his angry manager
Wayne Veysey

WILLIAM GALLAS has been told by Arsène Wenger that he must apologise to the manager and the rest of the squad for his scathing comments about his younger teammates. Sources say Gallas has been put on gardening leave and that Arsenal may even consider beginning the process of finding the controversial Frenchman another club in the January transfer window.

The row between Wenger, the Arsenal manager, and Gallas developed when the 31-year-old France defender was summoned to a meeting upon his return from international duty and informed that he was being stripped of the captaincy and fined two weeks’ wages [the maximum permitted] in response to his outburst against an unnamed teammate, believed to be Robin van Persie, on Wednesday evening.

It is understood that Wenger still wanted Gallas to take his place in the Arsenal team for yesterday’s trip to Manchester City. However, Gallas reacted furiously to losing the role of which he was so proud, telling Wenger that he believed his controversial comments to a French journalist were off the record. The outcome was that the defender stayed behind in London as his team headed north.

The rift between Wenger and Gallas is now believed to be so deep that many insiders feel he has played his last game for the club, although last night Wenger maintained the player still had a future at the Emirates. Gallas has long been known as a prickly character and a dressing-room loner who would not find it easy to apologise. It is understood that he has not one ally among his mostly younger colleagues, a situation that has worsened since his good friend Thierry Henry moved to Barcelona.

Gallas has a particularly difficult relationship with Arsenal’s Spanish midfielder, Cesc Fabregas. The pair had a dressing-room row last March after Arsenal had let slip a one-goal lead to lose at Chelsea, a defeat that dealt a severe blow to their title chances. The Frenchman is also believed to have had a row along similar lines recently with Theo Walcott, demonstrating the growing gap between him and Arsenal’s tyros.

Wenger, who made his decision to demote Gallas before details emerged yesterday of a second rant against club and country colleague Samir Nasri in his newly released autobiography, privately feels let down. The saga could well end with Gallas leaving, probably back to his native France, when the transfer window reopens in six weeks.

Even before the latest furore, only a few optimists ever thought Arsenal could win the Premier League this season. Those hopes were killed off when Gallas publicly criticised his teammates for lacking courage. He accused some of Arsenal’s young Guns of “not being brave enough”, revealed that Walcott and Van Persie “fought” at half-time during the 4-4 draw with Tottenham and said an unnamed player “continually insulted” the others.

Those internal divisions help to explain Arsenal’s inconsistency in a season in which they have beaten Manchester United but have already lost five league games, to Fulham, Hull, Stoke, Aston Villa and Manchester City. The form of the first team has been in marked contrast to that shown by the reserves, who have seen off Sheffield United [6-0] and Wigan [3-0] in the Carling Cup, and those with some sympathy with Gallas’s views will point to the fact that the reserves are largely free of the “Billy Bigtime” attitudes to which he alludes.

Others, in a comfortable majority, are likely to feel that Gallas has been one of the worst culprits in terms of behaviour.

His petulant one-man protest when Birmingham were awarded a late penalty at St Andrew’s in February is too recent to have been forgotten. Teammates have privately admitted that the sight of their captain sitting in the centre circle, crying, did nothing for their morale.

Cynics will say he may be engineering a lucrative transfer, in much the same way as when he allegedly threatened to score in his own net to leave Chelsea. In any case, the Emirates dressing room he portrays is not a happy place. Most damaging of all, Gallas suggested some of the younger players were more interested in their celebrity lifestyles than football. He said: “You can rest on your laurels. At Manchester United, the difference is that the youngsters have won something.”

The contenders to replace Gallas as captain long-term are Manuel Almunia, Gael Clichy and Fabregas.

dreamer75
23-11-2008, 10:35 AM
GALLAS ROW

Wednesday 10pm After France’s 0-0 draw with Uruguay, William Gallas tells reporters of problems in the Arsenal dressing room, saying his teammates were unwilling to fight for the title. He details bust-ups he has had with Robin van Persie and, in his autobiography, with Samir Nasri [without naming them]

Thursday 10am Arsène Wenger talks to English reporters unaware of Gallas’ comments

Thursday noon Gallas’ words are translated in the English media and the furore builds

Friday morning Gallas is stripped of the captaincy and told he can leave the club if he does not apologise. He does not travel for yesterday's match at Manchester City

Yesterday Goalkeeper Manuel Almunia captains Arsenal at the City of Manchester stadium

Asakura
23-11-2008, 10:47 AM
This came from SPURS - Darren Bent

Tottenham striker Darren Bent can trace Arsenal's turmoil back to when he heard Arsene Wenger's players bickering among themselves before they "crumbled'' against their rivals last month.

Gunners skipper William Gallas this week revealed the dressing-room arguments during the 4-4 draw at the Emirates Stadium, just one of the recent revelations from the Frenchman that have appeared to destabilise Wenger's squad.

Bent could hear the arguing from Arsenal before Spurs snatched two goals at the death to deal a famous result.

"It's not that hard to feel the tension between them and we knew that something was going on,'' Bent said.

"We always felt at 4-3 that if we could get the ball in the box one more time they'd crumble and luckily enough that happened.

"You could definitely hear the players arguing between themselves but we were just focusing on what we had to do and we put them under pressure and got our rewards.''

Arsenal had already lost to Hull and Fulham at that stage of the campaign, but Gallas' comments have made the Spurs draw symbolic of the problems Wenger faces. Spurs, in contrast, won four on the trot after that result.

"If there's something going on in their dressing room then that's something they need to address themselves,'' Bent said.

"As far as our dressing room is concerned everybody's happy, everybody's upbeat and looking forward to the next game.

"Maybe once you get under their skin and play as well as we did, it's always going to frustrate you and obviously it got to them.''

source (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=595238&sec=england&cc=4716)