Singapore Trend: Finding a Foreign Brides.

[Visitor]

Have we come to a point where local ladies are not longer attractive, capable or tender enough like as it used to be 30 years ago?

Is it not to our observation that our local ladies lack of the rack size, that nice contour or the elvish features and double eyelids that our poorer countries counter parts possess?

Or have the modern economic catch up with our ladies that without cars, condo or credit cards, we can no longer live happily?

Or maybe without our maids or parents, our ladies can no longer efficiently cooks, sew and care for their love one as moms did some years ago?

Or was it with higher education, our ladies become more calculating and demanding to a point that it become poison to our ears?

Or was it our ladies think too much when uncessary or too little when nesscary and believe too much in faith that their whole brain seem screw up and the only way to save them is not to marry them?

If the answer is yes. then prehaps it is time for us as ladies to petition to the governement to stop our Local man from marry foregin brides.

http://www.littlespeck.com/content/lifestyle/CTrendsLifestyle-021126.htm

A woman's plea for government help to stop Singaporean men marrying foreign women

Discuss!:D

[tqx]

All I can say is the article is so old...2002. Although nothing changed much till today. Anyway it is noted the problem is the men 40+ chinese educated cannot find local wife which is understandable.

Which Singapore girl would want to marry say a char Kway Teow hawker or a foreman. Also their work means long hours and no time to socialise

[tequila_powered]

Have we come to a point where local ladies are not longer attractive, capable or tender enough like as it used to be 30 years ago?

Is it not to our observation that our local ladies lack of the rack size, that nice contour or the elvish features and double eyelids that our poorer countries counter parts possess?

Or have the modern economic catch up with our ladies that without cars, condo or credit cards, we can no longer live happily?

Or maybe without our maids or parents, our ladies can no longer efficiently cooks, sew and care for their love one as moms did some years ago?

Or was it with higher education, our ladies become more calculating and demanding to a point that it become poison to our ears?

Or was it our ladies think too much when uncessary or too little when nesscary and believe too much in faith that their whole brain seem screw up and the only way to save them is not to marry them?

If the answer is yes. then prehaps it is time for us as ladies to petition to the governement to stop our Local man from marry foregin brides.

http://www.littlespeck.com/content/lifestyle/CTrendsLifestyle-021126.htm

A woman's plea for government help to stop Singaporean men marrying foreign women

Discuss!:D

My opinion -

I think you got that "If the answer is yes" bit wrong. It should be "If the answer is No". Yes?

[cannotliao]

not only spore facing this problem go look at japan, korea, taiwan..
living standard getting higher, higher and expectation too so more and more local men cannot afford the golden cheesespie got to import and look for cheaper alternative.

[adix_82]

门当户对。

竹门对竹门，猪门对猪门

[Visitor]

All I can say is the article is so old...2002. Although nothing changed much till today. Anyway it is noted the problem is the men 40+ chinese educated cannot find local wife which is understandable.

Which Singapore girl would want to marry say a char Kway Teow hawker or a foreman. Also their work means long hours and no time to socialise

that Char Tkway Teow Hawker or foreman at the age of 40 can just pay $10000 for a nice tendering caring, loving vietnamese 20 yr old wife to love and share his life with.
Imagine a guy have all the fun of being single until 40 and marry a 20 yr old wife.
Which man here would say that He is a loser?

As say, the article is so old since 2002, but what have our ladies done throughout all these years to restrain our local man from finding a lovely wife aboard?
It is time for us ladies to stand up to prove them wrong!
Did you learn how to cook?

[pete98]

All I can say is the article is so old...2002. Although nothing changed much till today. Anyway it is noted the problem is the men 40+ chinese educated cannot find local wife which is understandable.

Which Singapore girl would want to marry say a char Kway Teow hawker or a foreman. Also their work means long hours and no time to socialise

Why not? Its a honest living with stable income. Its likely that mentality similar to yours and pass down through the generations is why foreign bride agency existed.

Btw I doubt the problem is strictly limited to 40+ Chinese educated men, considering the numbers of foreign bride agency that keep popping up. Not to mention the latest fad of parent attending sessions of matchmaking for their childrens.

[reimina]

I think there's a 21 yr old NS guy married a Vietnamese girl. :P

[cal127]

lol... a small price to pay for gender equality in a consumerist society :s13:

[Seller222]

Have we come to a point where local ladies are not longer attractive, capable or tender enough like as it used to be 30 years ago?

Is it not to our observation that our local ladies lack of the rack size, that nice contour or the elvish features and double eyelids that our poorer countries counter parts possess?

Or have the modern economic catch up with our ladies that without cars, condo or credit cards, we can no longer live happily?

Or maybe without our maids or parents, our ladies can no longer efficiently cooks, sew and care for their love one as moms did some years ago?

Or was it with higher education, our ladies become more calculating and demanding to a point that it become poison to our ears?

Or was it our ladies think too much when uncessary or too little when nesscary and believe too much in faith that their whole brain seem screw up and the only way to save them is not to marry them?

If the answer is yes. then prehaps it is time for us as ladies to petition to the governement to stop our Local man from marry foregin brides.

http://www.littlespeck.com/content/lifestyle/CTrendsLifestyle-021126.htm

A woman's plea for government help to stop Singaporean men marrying foreign women

Discuss!:D


HAHAHAHA:s13::D

That was good....:D

[StarSeven]

Erm, if you think about it, there are in fact girls who would only go for foreign man.

I'm not sure about the exact number though.

[simage]

Definitely not limited to 40+ Chinese educated men not marrying. This is typical way of looking at this problem. I have many friends who are well beyond their 40s, educated with diploma or degrees and still single.

Not by choice in most cases. Is because our local ladies walk with their face up most of the time and demanded for some of the Cs:s22:. At the same time, must keep or make them happy all the time.....very unrealistic.

So why blame the men for choosing a foreign wife? The local girls should take a hard look in the mirror and try to answer this question before throwing the blame on the local guys.



Why not? Its a honest living with stable income. Its likely that mentality similar to yours and pass down through the generations is why foreign bride agency existed.

Btw I doubt the problem is strictly limited to 40+ Chinese educated men, considering the numbers of foreign bride agency that keep popping up. Not to mention the latest fad of parent attending sessions of matchmaking for their childrens.

[PhuaTehKor]

I prefer local girls but I think I will probably still end up with a foreign wife or remain single due to the very high expectations of MOST local girls.

[adix_82]

I prefer local girls but I think I will probably still end up with a foreign wife or remain single due to the very high expectations of MOST local girls.

THere are some bimbo out there.. not all are smart girl with high expectation..

[superman]

A woman's plea for government help to stop Singaporean men marrying foreign women


I think in that case you should also plea with the Govt for stop Singaporean Woman from marrying foreign Man so as to be fair. You can't expect to ask only Singapore men to compete with FTs while Singapore Women have the luxury not having to face Foreign Competition.

[ramlee]

THere are some bimbo out there.. not all are smart girl with high expectation..

Go Zoukout tomorrow night and check 'em out.

[Biogentic]

Given a choice who would want to marry a foreigner with our culture so far apart from their. However circumstances often force us to look for alternatives... want to blame probably can blame on the higher education of girls that brought to their materialistic and bimbo behavior....

But seriously, given a choice i would still choose a malaysian chinese just a feel that they are more hardworking and caring.

[cannotliao]

that what happen when woman in this island want to become man.

[Visitor]

Erm, if you think about it, there are in fact girls who would only go for foreign man.

I'm not sure about the exact number though.

I know of a girl that would only go for western guy. she like metal rock, think that all westerner are cool. after i educated her why westerner are pretty much as normal as any guys here. I fall short of telling her that a westerner like all rich countries including Singapore coming to search a nice wife will not choose singaporean ladies, as they lack of the rack size, features, caring ability, home economic skill and yet are demanding, calculating than that of their poorer counter parts。

Like my fishmonger cousin crudely say "肝门是一样的，我要多美有多美，怕没老婆 是不可？的，耶南， 中国，马来西亚 一大把等你呀。” :o

[Emo My Ass]

There is a wrong perseption that foreign brides are better than singaporean women.
It is like hiring a foreign maid, everything upfront is being powdered, decorated, but the hell starts when the maid moves in, start stealing things, shabby work, flirting with foreign workers etc.

But the fault does not lies entirely on those uncles in their 40s, i believe they surely have tried finding a soulmate, however, Singaporean women are well known for being picky, complainers, materialistic. This leaves those older chinese men with little choice.

Not to mention that these men are comparing a 30+ women to a 20+ vietnamese bride. Obviously, the younger old wins. Sexier figure, possibly a virgin, housewife image, obedient. These are what exactly the older men wants, thus vietnamese brides wins again.

[Emo My Ass]

I know of a girl that would only go for western guy. she like metal rock, think that all westerner are cool. after i educated her why westerner are pretty much as normal as any guys here. I fall short of telling her that a westerner like all rich countries including Singapore coming to search a nice wife will not choose singaporean ladies, as they lack of the rack size, features, caring ability, home economic skill and yet are demanding, calculating than that of their poorer counter parts。

Like my fishmonger cousin crudely say "肝门是一样的，我要多美有多美，怕没老婆 是不可？的，耶南， 中国，马来西亚 一大把等你呀。” :o
I have a bad experience with a vietnamese b!tch before.
She is ugly as hell, yet she thinks that she is the hottest.
She fake a caucasian accent and thinks that her english is one the best.
And lastly she likes foreigners because she thinks that hanging out with a caucasian is classy, and she is "good" enough to smitten a caucasian.

But the actual fact, caucasians go for less pretty women because they find a sence of superiority over the lesser being.

[enriqueyang]

foreign babes usually more more pretty than "pure" local ones... on average, PR is also much more pretty than PURE singapore ones...

[seePyou]

There are no complex reasons for me to take a foreign partner.

The primary reason - they are exotic.

[enriqueyang]

and many local girls who are nt capable and CMI looks still demand so much...

[bilaprem]

:D haha...that's a good one. Well, most local girls cannot make it or shall i say not good enuff for local guys therefore they throw themselves to foreign men to be made use of~

[zaine10]

hmmm i feel that local girls are getting more demanding... being educated, it is natural that female nowadays they want the best for themselves... singapore being a 2nd-world country, is not a cheap country to live in... Thus guys will rather spend money marrying foreign bride... they are generally more submissive and traditional and that meet the requirement and objective y guys would wan foreign bride. no one would want a bossy and fussy wife who pick on u and find fault with YOU...

[omnisilent]

Marrying a girl just because she has a large rack size sounds superficial to me.

Looks fade with time, character and intelligence do not.

[Shiki Tohno]

I still remember the quan yi feng variety show... now still have.. that Cynthia koh say at least 5k per month in order for local guys to marry local girls here... So how? Of course find FT la..

[Globe]

FT .... some of them are also starting to be weary of local girls.

the 5C also turn them off ....

[sacrificium]

Ask SG Gals to stop expecting the 5C then they can get a guy easily...

[enriqueyang]

Ask SG Gals to stop expecting the 5C then they can get a guy easily...

agree! if not in sg we will end up with alot of old virgin not so good looking woman around...

[Visitor]

Marrying a girl just because she has a large rack size sounds superficial to me.

Looks fade with time, character and intelligence do not.

I agree with you but a bouncing rack was already normally not part of our local deal. It is other qualities that make a female a vaiable one.

Character and intelligence is somewhat lost/corrupted too in our local deal.

We love our local girls until our government started to in-sourced them, that we open our eyes and see a real woman and now we are outsourcing too. Double whammy yeah!

[Fabiano]

With regards to SG girls being materialistic. I feel girls of any nationality would want to know her guy has the resources to raise a family.

The thing is SG girls nowadays are not that "simple" anymore. They expect guys to jump through hoops.

and the media play a huge role.

You have the korean dramas, MTV, female magazines. All of these dramatises the whole courtship process.

And SG men are well-known for being unromantic, and the trouble of going through the whole dating thing is just too tiresome for single-professionals in the 30s-40s.

Thats when the foreign brides come it. Just pay up and get married.

Personally i prefer simple girls. But that does not equate to dumb.

[lloop9]

Just want to know - many girls ask for 5Cs, how about man? What do they ask for? Some yardstick perhaps to counter the so-called 5Cs, make them wake up their f%&king idea! :D

[Emo My Ass]

Just want to know - many girls ask for 5Cs, how about man? What do they ask for? Some yardstick perhaps to counter the so-called 5Cs, make them wake up their f%&king idea! :D
Like what everyone else says, they got golden cheesepie.

[zulufili]

what golden cheesepie?? more likely rusty cheespie!! god noes how many usb drives have been inserted there...

they expect 5 c,but they dunnoe the 5 simple procedures of a woman should noe,
-cooking
-washing n ironing clothes
-taking care of kids and parents
-wet market shopping
-household chores

they expect the men to be take care of their needs, but they dunnoe how to take care of men's one basic need...they put work before family values,they want us men to be faithful to them, but the way they wear in public is nothing short of an intention to flirt and seek attention..

[simon_84]

what golden cheesepie?? more likely rusty cheespie!! god noes how many usb drives have been inserted there...

they expect 5 c,but they dunnoe the 5 simple procedures of a woman should noe,
-cooking
-washing n ironing clothes
-taking care of kids and parents
-wet market shopping
-household chores

they expect the men to be take care of their needs, but they dunnoe how to take care of men's one basic need...they put work before family values,they want us men to be faithful to them, but the way they wear in public is nothing short of an intention to flirt and seek attention..

you have said it all...funny eh...these modern women...

[Morriane]

My neighbour who is a NUS grad. When she was younger, she would nvr date any guy who does not drive and she would flirt with her colleague who drives and ask them to drive her to and fro work everyday. She was of cos pretty and earning quite alot herself.

But all those guys who dated her were just in for the sex and had no intention of marrying her. Ended up she arrived at the age of 34, she panic and married a man who was intro by her mom. All I know was the guy works at the macdonalds near my house. lol

[IceDrift]

what golden cheesepie?? more likely rusty cheespie!! god noes how many usb drives have been inserted there...

they expect 5 c,but they dunnoe the 5 simple procedures of a woman should noe,
-cooking
-washing n ironing clothes
-taking care of kids and parents
-wet market shopping
-household chores

they expect the men to be take care of their needs, but they dunnoe how to take care of men's one basic need...they put work before family values,they want us men to be faithful to them, but the way they wear in public is nothing short of an intention to flirt and seek attention..

Do most Singaporean women really expect the 5 Cs? That has not been so from my own experience. They have been funny, intelligent and independent. They don't expect the 5 Cs as some prerequisite for marriage but you are right Zulufili, they do expect their men to be faithful to them. But wouldn't you want your own girl to be faithful to you as well?

I don't know which age group you guys are talking about but those I've dated span the ages of 20 to 30. With the exception of some university students, all the rest are career women. All are tall, slim, attractive and intelligent. I guess you would label them SPGs?

I do know why they hesitate to get married. They have their fears and really, it sounds quite terrible to me.......Imagine this:

You are a career woman and your job demands long, stressful hours in the office ( everyone knows how hard we have to work in Singapore compared to other countries like say, in Europe. But lets not whine about this )
You come home and are expected to have dinner ready for the parents, the husband and the kids.
You are expected to cook, clean, wash, iron etc after a long day at work.
On weekends, you are expected to get up early to do your wet market shopping and even more household chores.
You are expected to take care of the kids and put them to bed and make breakfast for them before they go to school ( and everyone knows school starts so damn early ).
It's another day in the office and everything repeats again and oh, you are expected to make love to your husband and be sexy all the time.

Do you see why they hesitate to get married now? They are searching for the "right" guy ( and YES! I blame all the soppy Korean dramas etc and the "perfect guy" character for this ) before they will commit. Sometimes, they wait too long for "THE ONE".

We tell them to lower their expectations. That's easy to say. How many of us are willing to lower ours? How many of us can honestly say " I don't expect my wife to be beautiful, intelligent, caring. I don't expect her to contribute to household finances. I don't expect her to wash or cook or clean or take care of parents or kids all the time. I don't expect her to be ready to make love everytime I'm in the mood. etc etc etc" ?

[Morriane]

I don't expect my wife to be beautiful, intelligent and caring. Just don't expect anything from me too.

[anddrool]

At the end of the day, its just one's expectation vs the other's expectation. If they did not meet each other expectation, are they willing to compromise.

eg. Assuming a man only interested in slim woman and a fat woman is interested in him. Definitely the man is not interested in fat woman, so is the fat woman willing to lose weight and slim to meet his expectation. If not she should just move on and find a guy that loves fat woman. She can't just keep complaining that man is not interested in her because she is fat. She should slim down or find someone who like fat woman or remain single.

Woman cannot complain that man only like woman who knows how to cook, look after family, caring, etc
Similarly, Man can't complain woman want a man to have 5Cs, attend to her needs, etc

Its just like someone want a job that pays 10K and not willing to lower down. But he cannot find a job that pays that well and complain that there is no job.

The question is are both party willing to comprise and low down expectation.
If the local Singaporean(men or women) cannot find their ideal partner and not willing to compromise then of course they will try to look somewhere to is able to meet their expectation.

[Fabiano]

My neighbour who is a NUS grad. When she was younger, she would nvr date any guy who does not drive and she would flirt with her colleague who drives and ask them to drive her to and fro work everyday. She was of cos pretty and earning quite alot herself.

But all those guys who dated her were just in for the sex and had no intention of marrying her. Ended up she arrived at the age of 34, she panic and married a man who was intro by her mom. All I know was the guy works at the macdonalds near my house. lol

Typical of sg girls trying to hold out for their prince charming. Along the way she will reject decent working class guys. Of course there is nothing wrong with that,
everyone choose who he/she wants to bed.

When she hits 30, suddenly she realise prince charming only exist in korean dramas.

No prize for guessing, by then Mr decent-working-class guy marries Ms young-attractive-caring viet girl.

SG girls then ask where are all the good local men?

[Visitor]

well said!
at least i know at 34, i can still go for a viet girl, if no one want a decent working class guy. but at 34 i wont choose a 30. dont ask why. i want 18.
for local max 28

Girls pick yr age! a good time is 24, then married at 26 play dice at 28. good luck at 30.

[cal127]

I'm maybe starting to think singapore women in general can't make any more rules in their choice of spouses than they already have...even that doesen't mean guys should start playing and acting as bigots on the exclusivity and insularity of their game. :s13:

[Emo My Ass]

Frankly speaking, i don't need a wife to cook for me, wash for me, clean for me.

Those are just value added.

I want a person whom can share my woes, understands me, share our friendship circle, share my burden. Thats all

Cooking alone isn't fun. It is more interesting when both of us can cook, wash, eat together... More love is in it.

[octacon]

It's not only about high expectation from women , some women look down at men and do what pleases them ,smoking , drinking , sleeping around, believe in funny cult etc... and worse of all , simply lack of the virtue of being humble. What SG guys do , most of these gals do the same , so it's like you are marrying a brother instead of a women.

Most of them still believe they have the time when they are in their mid 20s. by the time they reach their 30s not many able to find what they look for , worse still they still come up with expectations that are hard to believe , good guys are all snapped up because most of us guys believe to get marry during the mid 20s and early 30s.

Some of the local gals believe they are upper classed when they marry ang mos, nothing wrong when they spread their legs wide open and invite them, and the kids are nothing but rojak. :s13:


This is my views : Most local gals are anti traditions ( they do what pleases them) and lack of asian valves which other gals like malaysian and vietnamese have .

[Fabiano]

Im actually looking forward to some female opinion on this issue.

[octacon]

Im actually looking forward to some female opinion on this issue.

Me too, I am waiting for their view .

[cal127]

Im not curious but haven't you guys heard...celibacy is becoming the new fad these days :s13:

[simon_84]

My neighbour who is a NUS grad. When she was younger, she would nvr date any guy who does not drive and she would flirt with her colleague who drives and ask them to drive her to and fro work everyday. She was of cos pretty and earning quite alot herself.

But all those guys who dated her were just in for the sex and had no intention of marrying her. Ended up she arrived at the age of 34, she panic and married a man who was intro by her mom. All I know was the guy works at the macdonalds near my house. lol

haha, sounds like a dumb lady even though she study in nus.
guess she must have lots of experience inside the car already :s13:

[Emo My Ass]

haha, sounds like a dumb lady even though she study in nus.
guess she must have lots of experience inside the car already :s13:
She ain't dumb, she is probably smart, but too smart for her own good.

Thats the main problem with SG ladies, they are "smart alecs" and of cause, majority of the men don't really like that.

[tqx]

Just have to say the "market value" of a women drops rapidly once she enters her 30s.

[pete98]

I blame shows like 'Meteor Garden' for some gals unrealistic expectations. Maybe they should rated these shows 'PG' :s13:

[et3rnity84]

my lady now is a sillyporean, but is the type which contrasts with the majority of SG LADIES. i.e: materialistic, makeup artist, ghost to club squeeze and loves getting touched, NMNH kind, no car no talk kind, think bf is superman kind etc.

so much to list.. my ex used to be a malaysian, and she can cook and works hard for what she earns. i think its just a trait and character that SG ladies don't have. they think they're god damn pretty.

yes they are, but to me its just eye candies.. i see them on e streets. see them abit more if they wear mini skirts, its FOC anyway. but to live together, no thanks.

once your COE up is nothing to talk, then they will return back to earth

:mad:

[Assimilator]

I blame shows like 'Meteor Garden' for some gals unrealistic expectations. Maybe they should rated these shows 'PG' :s13:
Hahaha... just nice there's a study done on ppl who watch too much romantic shows.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7784366.stm


Rom-coms 'spoil your love life'

Watching romantic comedies can spoil your love life, a study by a university in Edinburgh has claimed.

Rom-coms have been blamed by relationship experts at Heriot Watt University for promoting unrealistic expectations when it comes to love.

They found fans of films such as Runaway Bride and Notting Hill often fail to communicate with their partner.

Many held the view if someone is meant to be with you, then they should know what you want without you telling them.

Psychologists at the family and personal relationships laboratory at the university studied 40 top box office hits between 1995 and 2005, and identified common themes which they believed were unrealistic.

The problem is that while most of us know that the idea of a perfect relationship is unrealistic, some of us are still more influenced by media portrayals than we realise

The movies included You've Got Mail, Maid In Manhattan, The Wedding Planner and While You Were Sleeping.

The university's Dr Bjarne Holmes said: "Marriage counsellors often see couples who believe that sex should always be perfect, and if someone is meant to be with you then they will know what you want without you needing to communicate it.

"We now have some emerging evidence that suggests popular media play a role in perpetuating these ideas in people's minds.

"The problem is that while most of us know that the idea of a perfect relationship is unrealistic, some of us are still more influenced by media portrayals than we realise."

The study says watching romantic comedies can spoil your love life

As part of the project, 100 student volunteers were asked to watch the 2001 romantic comedy Serendipity, while a further 100 watched a David Lynch drama.

Students watching the romantic film were later found to be more likely to believe in fate and destiny. A further study found that fans of romantic comedies had a stronger belief in predestined love.

Kimberly Johnson, who also worked on the study, said: "Films do capture the excitement of new relationships but they also wrongly suggest that trust and committed love exist from the moment people meet, whereas these are qualities that normally take years to develop."

The researchers have now launched an online study on media and relationships.

They are asking people to participate by answering questions about personality, relationships, and media consumption habits by filling in a questionnaire which you can click on here

[Emo My Ass]

Hahaha... just nice there's a study done on ppl who watch too much romantic shows.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7784366.stm
LOL...

I guess shows like this should be GG instead of PG, Grandma's Guidiance.

:P

[Fabiano]

I blame shows like 'Meteor Garden' for some gals unrealistic expectations. Maybe they should rated these shows 'PG' :s13:

everyone has the same hairstyle.

everyone wears a suit.

and of course everyone is damn good looking.

What about MTV?

I feel MTV glamourises gangsterism, drugs, and promiscuity.

girls watching these programmes may be mislead on what makes a "man".

[et3rnity84]

sg girls now.. sigh.. your name nort robert then don't bother :)

[reimina]

Im actually looking forward to some female opinion on this issue.

You need to go to Stomp, more feminist around. =:p

[et3rnity84]

get jolie's comment lor. different voices :)

[octacon]

Well... Just have fun with the local gals here but when come to marry , just find a Malaysian or Indonesian or Vietnamese , don't bother about gals here , they are for EXPORT purposes , we guys need to IMPORT , don't forget $inkapore is a busy port that do EXPORTS and IMPORTS.:s13: