Cyber cafe Networking

[nsy01sg]

Hi guys,

My friend intend to setup a cyber cafe housing 30 PC but for switches / router, it have only 24 port if I'm not wrong.

How to setup a LAN w/ 30 PC?

Using switch or router is better in term of performance for cyber cafe usage.

Please advice

[shadowandy]

Try to engage professional services. Switches can be chained together and switches are not limited to 24 ports.

[XxbloodxX]

then add some hubs into the network ?

[phuque99]

You intend to setup business without professional IT advice / implementation and instead choose to use public forum information? lol :D

[xinus84]

y cannot get 2x 24 ports? can expand in future ma

[nsy01sg]

y cannot get 2x 24 ports? can expand in future ma


How to connect?


Can I connect modem ---> router ---> switch 1 and switch 2

Example : I have 30 PC

a) Router still have spare port, can also connect to 2 PC
b) Switch 1 connect 14 PC
c) Switch 2 connect 14 PC

All using Straight-thru Ethernet cable

Sorry I can't post attachment.

Thanks for your advice.

[largeresource]

use cisco switches for maximum throughtput and outstanding control

can combined two or more ports for uplink

can also disable or enable L3 or L4 ports

[liangtam]

Pls go get an outsource.
If the network if half f, i doubt customers will support u

[allanzzz]

daisy chain switches using cross over cable?

[nsy01sg]

How to connect?


Can I connect modem ---> router ---> switch 1 and switch 2

Example : I have 30 PC

a) Router still have spare port, can also connect to 2 PC
b) Switch 1 connect 14 PC
c) Switch 2 connect 14 PC

All using Straight-thru Ethernet cable

Sorry I can't post attachment.

Thanks for your advice.



Pls go get an outsource.
If the network if half f, i doubt customers will support u

You mean the above Lan can work but may slowdown the network?

What if I connect modem ---> router ---> Switch 1 ---> Switch 2

Any difference? Which is better?

Sorry but I don't understand what is outsource.

[liangtam]

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see first sentence of post #2 again

[phuque99]

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see first sentence of post #2 again

actually take free advise also good, stack the switches, choked liao, customer run away also good for positive learning, character building :D

[nsy01sg]

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see first sentence of post #2 again


Yah, How to chain together?

a) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 and switch 2
b) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 ---> switch 2

Not this way?

Professional IT , I just don't know where to get them and how they charge.
Any recommendation? My friend don't have much budget.

Thanks for advice

[kennyg1969]

holy crap TS!!!

Get a professional IT services to help you setup....

In every business, you need to have a proper business plan... If your friend do not have much budget, how to get 30 PCs? How about daily cash flow? How about monthly rental, electricity,etc?

You know why business sometimes fail? No proper business plan

You need a reliable LAN otherwise, it will be hell for you and your customers

[nsy01sg]

Get a professional IT services to help you setup....

In every business, you need to have a proper business plan... If your friend do not have much budget, how to get 30 PCs? How about daily cash flow? How about monthly rental, electricity,etc?

You know why business sometimes fail? No proper business plan

You need a reliable LAN otherwise, it will be hell for you and your customers


I understand that what you mean, but where to get "professional IT service"?

His budget is not much after paying for PC, rental, renovation, internet etc which is a must.

My friend not said no hire, but want cut cost as he know I do networking st home and hope I help. (Just that I'm inexperience in doing networking for 30 PC)

Back to the same question, how to chain together?

a) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 and switch 2
b) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 ---> switch 2

Thanks

[Pokémon]

Back to the same question, how to chain together?

a) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 and switch 2
b) modem ---> router ---> switch 1 ---> switch 2

Thanks

Go for Gigabit switches, and a router with built-in 4-port Gigabit switch.

Go for 'a' as first choice. If 'a' doesn't go well, then test how 'b' would go. Likely the devices will be placed close to one another, so it's just a matter of changing the cable connections.

[liangtam]

??
gb switches are not needed

or u wan to help TS spend more? hee

[kakaBoBo]

just daisy chain it together.

[nsy01sg]

just daisy chain it together.



Sorry, don't understand what is "daisy chain it together".

I only have done simple networking at home using router, nvr done w/ switch.

Will it be very complicating to networking using switch?

Btw, thanks to all who reply me.

[albertlee]

24 port switch not enough then go for 48 port switch lah.

[PsyNidE]

option a lar ... coz after you use a cross over cable at port 24 of switch 1 to port 24 of switch 2 .. logically it appears as 1 switch liao

[heehee01]

TS,

Easy to get professional services. Just go to any SI company. There are tons of them. If want them to supply with equipment, a few k will do the job(less than 5k), depending on the equipment you choose.
Setting up the Lan is easy, but maintaining it is difficult. Your home network traffic is quite consistent and managable compared to Lan traffic, with customers doing funny stuff. Need to set the security etc and prevent memory choke up on switches. I used to work in ISP environment and came across customers suffering hugh losses because they try to save on initial cost setup....

Anyway if you insist on setting up on your own, as albertlee has mentioned, get a 48-port switch. 3com will do the job well, cisco is too expensive.

[Pleasure]

i think you better seek some professional help, don't screw up your frenship with your fren with wrong your wrong design/implementation/deployement plan or judgement. Cos from what you posted and replied, you really know very little about networking.

Hooking up a router and enabling wireless to be connected are not really consider actual networking in the real biz world. Like what some other have mention, if you are running a LAN, there are alot more security measure need to be in place. Bandwidth monitoring, Security tightening, Vlan segmentation, etc etc.

As your fren's biz is Network performance critical, if gamers feel your place CMI or laggy network or connection they surely will not consider you as top choice again.

Thanks
Cheers!
:)

[kennyg1969]

i think you better seek some professional help, don't screw up your frenship with your fren with wrong your wrong design/implementation/deployement plan or judgement. Cos from what you posted and replied, you really know very little about networking.

Hooking up a router and enabling wireless to be connected are not really consider actual networking in the real biz world. Like what some other have mention, if you are running a LAN, there are alot more security measure need to be in place. Bandwidth monitoring, Security tightening, Vlan segmentation, etc etc.

As your fren's biz is Network performance critical, if gamers feel your place CMI or laggy network or connection they surely will not consider you as top choice again.

Thanks
Cheers!
:)

Totally agreed.