Trouble port-fowarding Linksys wrt54gs

[xypher]

I went to the admin page and set everything right, but still utorrent says that the port 62144 is blocked.. Why is this so?

I followed the guide on www.portforward.com

[gashubell]

perphaps u need a static ip

[xypher]

is it a difficult process?

[caishenye]

Starhub placed a proxy that blocks all ports le. You use uTorrent to check your port, it will report your IP as 208.x.x.x which is SH's proxy address. Your port is likely opened already (use GRC's Shields Up! which scans your IP directly) but with a proxy in place, there's nothing much we can do.

[MarineX]

Starhub placed a proxy that blocks all ports le. You use uTorrent to check your port, it will report your IP as 208.x.x.x which is SH's proxy address. Your port is likely opened already (use GRC's Shields Up! which scans your IP directly) but with a proxy in place, there's nothing much we can do.

no, shub did not block ports. please do not jump conclusions.

[kawaiiboi]

Starhub is blocking la.... can't even hit decent speed now adays

[MarineX]

Starhub is blocking la.... can't even hit decent speed now adays

blocking? LOL.
1. check your config in ur router
2. if the port is opened check your torrent client configurations.

if your port is opened based on external site... how can you say Shub is blocking ?

[kawaiiboi]

Report Finds StarHub Blocking BitTorrent Traffic
Internet and Networking | Reads from WWW
Fri 23 May 2008
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In a report done by German institute concerning Bittorrent blocking activities in various parts of the world, StarHub has been named as one of the few ISPs in the world that engages in Bittorrent traffic blocking. According to the report, StarHub is actively blocking users from uploading data to other users, which in turn slows down Bittorrent download speeds. Do note that the study also states this blocking is different from active throttling that ISPs may also do. Furthermore, this is not the end all conclusive report, as they are still fine tuning the data collection and analysis methods.

Max Planck Institute - More than 8,000 users from locations around the world have used our tool, Glasnost, to test whether their BitTorrent traffic is being manipulated. On this page, we present preliminary results from these tests. The tests were conducted between March 18th and May 15th 2008. We will update this page with more detailed results as we get more data from the tests. We also hope to uncover more cases of blocking as we refine our measurement tool and our analysis. So make sure to check back later. Alternately, you can stay up-to-date on our findings by subscribing to the glasnost-updates mailing list.

See here for the full report.

HWZ.com has also checked with StarHub and has gotten the following reply from the StarHub spokesperson regarding the above issue:

"It is a known fact that P2P traffic is bandwidth intensive and can use up significant network resources. Hence, all ISPs employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all traffic is given equal priority such that the service expectations of their online users are met. We do not specifically block P2P traffic. Like all ISPs in the world, we do, however, employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all our customers receive an optimal surfing experience."

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/news/...id=10759&cid=8

[MarineX]

Report Finds StarHub Blocking BitTorrent Traffic
Internet and Networking | Reads from WWW
Fri 23 May 2008
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In a report done by German institute concerning Bittorrent blocking activities in various parts of the world, StarHub has been named as one of the few ISPs in the world that engages in Bittorrent traffic blocking. According to the report, StarHub is actively blocking users from uploading data to other users, which in turn slows down Bittorrent download speeds. Do note that the study also states this blocking is different from active throttling that ISPs may also do. Furthermore, this is not the end all conclusive report, as they are still fine tuning the data collection and analysis methods.

Max Planck Institute - More than 8,000 users from locations around the world have used our tool, Glasnost, to test whether their BitTorrent traffic is being manipulated. On this page, we present preliminary results from these tests. The tests were conducted between March 18th and May 15th 2008. We will update this page with more detailed results as we get more data from the tests. We also hope to uncover more cases of blocking as we refine our measurement tool and our analysis. So make sure to check back later. Alternately, you can stay up-to-date on our findings by subscribing to the glasnost-updates mailing list.

See here for the full report.

HWZ.com has also checked with StarHub and has gotten the following reply from the StarHub spokesperson regarding the above issue:

"It is a known fact that P2P traffic is bandwidth intensive and can use up significant network resources. Hence, all ISPs employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all traffic is given equal priority such that the service expectations of their online users are met. We do not specifically block P2P traffic. Like all ISPs in the world, we do, however, employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all our customers receive an optimal surfing experience."

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/news/...id=10759&cid=8

whatever news report what.. people tends to believe. that explains alot on one behavior. lol

[liangtam]

its like only hearing 'the good news', maybe the propagandas as well

Anyway, see this: http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/results/index.html#evol_block

[phuque99]

I think people only read what they want to hear, filter out the rest. The report clearly shows Starhub has zero blocking on the graphs starting from July. That's probably the reason why I can get torrent speeds of up to 8Mbps.

[liangtam]

I don't think its zero traffic shaping, since most, if not all ISP does it.
Getting a 0 in graph means how "good" the test methodology are

[kawaiiboi]

i only know that alot of sites block starhub proxy

[liangtam]

i only know that alot of sites block starhub proxy
Starhub is blocking la.... can't even hit decent speed now adays
Dont write contradicting statement if you want to insist starhub blocked something leh? so who block who now?

if you're referring to sites like rapidshare, take note the constant mention is always their premium access, and hence $$$.

[kawaiiboi]

if you are careful enough block ports and traffic uses different techniques.. SH is famous for using proxy which is very likely to be banned by popular sites thus reducing traffic...

[kawaiiboi]

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2267692

here alot of complains already.. don't need me to specially prove it.. anyway they are trying hard to throttle but alot of side effects like high pings etc..

[MarineX]

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2267692

here alot of complains already.. don't need me to specially prove it.. anyway they are trying hard to throttle but alot of side effects like high pings etc..

is this considered being capped?

http://www.imghype.com/data/7d2e7fa59cPicture1.jpg

[phuque99]

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2267692

here alot of complains already.. don't need me to specially prove it.. anyway they are trying hard to throttle but alot of side effects like high pings etc..

Wrong assumptions and poorly informed complaining people. Nonetheless, you enjoy your slowness, we enjoy our "unblocked" high speeds. :D

[commach]

Well, whenever user got problem getting good P2P downloading speed, the ISP is the prime suspect for throttling the bandwidth. Such user often overlook the fact that most of the P2P peer are superb kiam siap on the uploading speed configured in the P2P client.

If won't say SH never throttle P2P bandwidth, but not to the extend of less than 10kB/s. I can get close 100kB/s with single seed if i managed to connect to this super uploader.

[kawaiiboi]

come on... the fact that you and i still manage to get high speed doesn't mean its not blocked. SH is blocking but they cannot block every single encrypted TCP transaction... ask you simply did you encrypt? If so then why you encrypt?

[kawaiiboi]

is this considered being capped?

http://www.imghype.com/data/7d2e7fa59cPicture1.jpg

pls show ur utorrent config if you really hit that speed and not try to show pictures which means nothing to help people ?

[phuque99]

Quite funny leh, you're the one with slow downloads, we're enjoying super fast uploads. No need to proof any point mah since we earn nothing from this. We're just sharing facts to get your right torrents from the right seeders and have the right expectations.

kau peh here won't make your torrents faster nor would it make our torrents slower leh. either have right expectations, get the right seeders or bring your case and data to starhub.

[kawaiiboi]

if you don't wish to help then we can't force you but to those who are getting low speeds i recommend them to change ISP once their contract has ended cuz Starhub is throttling torrent speeds

[MarineX]

if you don't wish to help then we can't force you but to those who are getting low speeds i recommend them to change ISP once their contract has ended cuz Starhub is throttling torrent speeds

that's pretty wierd, seriously why should i do what you ask me to? As mentioned by phuque99 the problem lies mainly with you and there you are commenting that the ISP does the blocking.

1. I think the problem lies more with the user and thats you.

2. By changing ISP guarantees breakthru speed? LOL. Please do it then.

just to ensure that the problem doesnt lies with starhub.. I've tried testing it at my friend's place as well...

http://www.imghype.com/data/1b9a2d6122Picture10.jpg

His seems capped? coz its slower than mine but of coz, a different torrent file. LOL

when you say "throttling" - what is the speed you are getting? 1kb/s? 2kb/s?

there's tons of factors why you are getting a slow speed... not only due to configurations of the bittorrent client.

Things suchs as router config, windows config and etc plays a part as well.

FYI both of us is using a Motorola 5101i modem accompany with DIR-655 router.

[kawaiiboi]

that's pretty wierd, seriously why should i do what you ask me to? As mentioned by phuque99 the problem lies mainly with you and there you are commenting that the ISP does the blocking.

1. I think the problem lies more with the user and thats you.

2. By changing ISP guarantees breakthru speed? LOL. Please do it then.

just to ensure that the problem doesnt lies with starhub.. I've tried testing it at my friend's place as well...

http://www.imghype.com/data/1b9a2d6122Picture10.jpg

His seems capped? coz its slower than mine but of coz, a different torrent file. LOL

when you say "throttling" - what is the speed you are getting? 1kb/s? 2kb/s?

there's tons of factors why you are getting a slow speed... not only due to configurations of the bittorrent client.

Things suchs as router config, windows config and etc plays a part as well.

FYI both of us is using a Motorola 5101i modem accompany with DIR-655 router.

What i meant was if people continues to suffer low download speeds even though they used to have better speed in the past and thus cannot find the real reason since they did all configuration . Since you guys can't give any breakthrough recommendation about the configuration so its still better for them to change ISP as Starhub is throttling..

[kawaiiboi]

http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/results/figures/starhub_over_time.png

In a report done by German institute concerning Bittorrent blocking activities in various parts of the world, StarHub has been named as one of the few ISPs in the world that engages in Bittorrent traffic blocking. According to the report, StarHub is actively blocking users from uploading data to other users, which in turn slows down Bittorrent download speeds. Do note that the study also states this blocking is different from active throttling that ISPs may also do. Furthermore, this is not the end all conclusive report, as they are still fine tuning the data collection and analysis methods.

Max Planck Institute - More than 8,000 users from locations around the world have used our tool, Glasnost, to test whether their BitTorrent traffic is being manipulated. On this page, we present preliminary results from these tests. The tests were conducted between March 18th and May 15th 2008. We will update this page with more detailed results as we get more data from the tests. We also hope to uncover more cases of blocking as we refine our measurement tool and our analysis. So make sure to check back later. Alternately, you can stay up-to-date on our findings by subscribing to the glasnost-updates mailing list.

See here for the full report.

HWZ.com has also checked with StarHub and has gotten the following reply from the StarHub spokesperson regarding the above issue:

"It is a known fact that P2P traffic is bandwidth intensive and can use up significant network resources. Hence, all ISPs employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all traffic is given equal priority such that the service expectations of their online users are met. We do not specifically block P2P traffic. Like all ISPs in the world, we do, however, employ bandwidth management tools to ensure that all our customers receive an optimal surfing experience."

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/news/view.php?id=10759&cid=8

[kawaiiboi]

If you guys have good speed then its either the throttle is not 100% effective or configuration wise you escape some blocking but at the end of the day if STARHUB continues to improve their throttling device i see not point for people who wish to use P2P to sign up for another 2 year plan with Starhub..

[MarineX]

If you guys have good speed then its either the throttle is not 100% effective or configuration wise you escape some blocking but at the end of the day if STARHUB continues to improve their throttling device i see not point for people who wish to use P2P to sign up for another 2 year plan with Starhub..

hahas. seriously, i have mentioned it above before - experience it yourself instead of listening to what the news published. That's what i feel.

Furthermore, are you using Starhub?

[phuque99]

LoL, you win or lose this argument, no change in your download speed leh. :D Its nothing to do with configuration. You want fast, find non kiam siap seeders, ie: legal content, private trackers. Public tracker, public seeder and pirated content is probably what you're downloading and that's why its slow.

Importantly, at the end of the day, must have happiness, joy and laughter. We're just sharing information here. If changing ISPs bring joy, happiness and peace to you, go ahead by all means. I share my experience and beliefs with MarineX: torrent is damn fast with MOL, can reach 8Mbps on good days too.

[MarineX]

LoL, you win or lose this argument, no change in your download speed leh. :D Its nothing to do with configuration. You want fast, find non kiam siap seeders, ie: legal content, private trackers. Public tracker, public seeder and pirated content is probably what you're downloading and that's why its slow.

Importantly, at the end of the day, must have happiness, joy and laughter. We're just sharing information here. If changing ISPs bring joy, happiness and peace to you, go ahead by all means. I share my experience and beliefs with MarineX: torrent is damn fast with MOL, can reach 8Mbps on good days too.

thanks for that. are you refering to something "like this" during good days?

http://www.imghype.com/data/28f3fc4453Picture1.jpg

[phuque99]

thanks for that. are you refering to something "like this" during good days?

http://www.imghype.com/data/28f3fc4453Picture1.jpg

900KB/s - 1000KB/s normally, not so high like your's. have to setup QoS in tomato and dd-wrt on both connection to lowest priority, otherwise p2p will choke entire bandwidth.

[liangtam]

If you guys have good speed then its either the throttle is not 100% effective or configuration wise you escape some blocking but at the end of the day if STARHUB continues to improve their throttling device i see not point for people who wish to use P2P to sign up for another 2 year plan with Starhub..

What are you blabbering about now?
Throttling applies from almost all ISP. Jumping ship from one end to the other does not change any fact that traffic shaping is in place. Whether you like it or not.

If your countering point is that, you do not want to sign further for a ISP that shapes your connection, too bad for you, you can go without the internet or pay lease line

[kawaiiboi]

What are you blabbering about now?
Throttling applies from almost all ISP. Jumping ship from one end to the other does not change any fact that traffic shaping is in place. Whether you like it or not.

If your countering point is that, you do not want to sign further for a ISP that shapes your connection, too bad for you, you can go without the internet or pay lease line

Starhub is using shared bandwidth thus it employs throttle that enables her to maximize profit per amount of bandwidth. As many subscribers share the same pipeline, it is still affects people who's bandwidth is throttle downwards so as to share bandwidth.

[commach]

Hmm... Starhub is using shared bandwidth, so are other ISPs.....

We are now in year 2009, Starhub is the only shared bandwidth ISP?

[MarineX]

Starhub is using shared bandwidth thus it employs throttle that enables her to maximize profit per amount of bandwidth. As many subscribers share the same pipeline, it is still affects people who's bandwidth is throttle downwards so as to share bandwidth.

Hmm... Starhub is using shared bandwidth, so are other ISPs.....

We are now in year 2009, Starhub is the only shared bandwidth ISP?


i have ask this and now i will ask again... are you guys using Starhub? Seriously you are providing a very wrong facts based on your bias attitude towards Singnet.

Doesnt Singnet do the same by capping users to utilized their profit per amount of bandwidth?

Seriously, gets your facts right before posting. You might mislead people with your 1-sided thinking.

[MarineX]

oh and yes, i am not trying to prove which ISP is superior than the other. What i felt is that users should be left to experience it themselves and not accept their decisions based on hearsay.

AND

their wrong configurations.

[commach]

Starhub is using shared bandwidth thus it employs throttle that enables her to maximize profit per amount of bandwidth. As many subscribers share the same pipeline, it is still affects people who's bandwidth is throttle downwards so as to share bandwidth.

Hmm... Starhub is using shared bandwidth, so are other ISPs.....

We are now in year 2009, Starhub is the only shared bandwidth ISP?

i have ask this and now i will ask again... are you guys using Starhub? Seriously you are providing a very wrong facts based on your bias attitude towards Singnet.

Doesnt Singnet do the same by capping users to utilized their profit per amount of bandwidth?

Seriously, gets your facts right before posting. You might mislead people with your 1-sided thinking.

Haha.... my comments above was targetting at kawaiiboi's reply.:D

We knew all ISPs are delivering shared bandwidth be it Starhub or Singnet..... hope you don't got the wrong idea i'm biased against any of the ISP, i never have issue with P2P traffic using Starhub as my ISP for years but obviously someone is extremely biased against Starhub.... well, i'm not biased against any ISP in general, you knew what i'm referring to....:s13:

The key reasons for good P2P traffic is the peer uploading and fine tuning of the P2P client software and router's setting/configuration, but someone claimed that the ISP throttled the bandwidth to such pathetic under 10kbs.;)

[liangtam]

Starhub is using shared bandwidth thus it employs throttle that enables her to maximize profit per amount of bandwidth. As many subscribers share the same pipeline, it is still affects people who's bandwidth is throttle downwards so as to share bandwidth.

Cheh, proven again and again. The FAT green pipe is bigger than the combined bandwidth of all user at the node.