Recommend ISP

[winterrealm]

Hi guys any suggestion which isp i should go for? been reading this article http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/geekonomics/post.htm?id=63000326 pretty sad tat isp didnt really protect customer piracy.

if u say none able to protect, hw abt recommendation for reliability,speed n price for fixed bb. pacnet?singnet?m1?starhub?

thx bro for replying

[westside_lch]

go for M1 fixed broadband 10mbps, 40.60 only. Responce from users are very positive, sometimes they give double the bandwidth

[liangtam]

in the first place, if u do not want to face the music, do not download.
even if they do 'protect', how long can it be before the court orders for the information?

[winterrealm]

go for M1 fixed broadband 10mbps, 40.60 only. Responce from users are very positive, sometimes they give double the bandwidth

woah sounds great. LOL i think im waitin for any pc show etc.. for better offer and free gift. sianz means next year lo :(

[winterrealm]

in the first place, if u do not want to face the music, do not download.
even if they do 'protect', how long can it be before the court orders for the information?

lol. nowadays so many ppl torrent-ing. so tempted not to miss out ma :D
ya. sianz, but i dont see any of the local isp did protect.

[gulp]

if you're so paranoid, subscribe to a vpn/proxy service. but that's provided you trust the provider in the first place.

[czheyuan]

woah sounds great. LOL i think im waitin for any pc show etc.. for better offer and free gift. sianz means next year lo :(

No arh... the next one is coming in mid September... COMEX @ Suntec..

[insecure]

My advice: trust nobody. We all know our ISP operate web monitoring & filtering appliance to block out banned sites (e.g. YouPorn) as spelled out by MDA. This means that they have the ability & capability to log all traffic transactions in & out of their networks. They will not hesitate to release your name in court if they are pressurized by the authority like anti-piracy organization. And I believe one of them is doing some forms of deep packet inspection on the traffic. I've logged a complaint but they have yet to revert to me.

I am not a security expert but have been in IT for 15+ years, I believe everyone can take simple step to protect themselves. Hide your identity & encrypt your data to/from the Internet by using a trusted VPN service provider. Forget about free web anonymizers or Tor (anonymity network), they are slow & highly unreliable - they can be setup up by literally anyone (hackers, criminals, etc.).

[The Big Bang Theory]

lol. nowadays so many ppl torrent-ing. so tempted not to miss out ma :D
ya. sianz, but i dont see any of the local isp did protect.

pacnet? :s8:

[winterrealm]

No arh... the next one is coming in mid September... COMEX @ Suntec..

oh.. haha i dont really remember which month have wat IT show
so june is pc show, mid sept comex. anymore?? heh :s22:

[winterrealm]

My advice: trust nobody. We all know our ISP operate web monitoring & filtering appliance to block out banned sites (e.g. YouPorn) as spelled out by MDA. This means that they have the ability & capability to log all traffic transactions in & out of their networks. They will not hesitate to release your name in court if they are pressurized by the authority like anti-piracy organization. And I believe one of them is doing some forms of deep packet inspection on the traffic. I've logged a complaint but they have yet to revert to me.

I am not a security expert but have been in IT for 15+ years, I believe everyone can take simple step to protect themselves. Hide your identity & encrypt your data to/from the Internet by using a trusted VPN service provider. Forget about free web anonymizers or Tor (anonymity network), they are slow & highly unreliable - they can be setup up by literally anyone (hackers, criminals, etc.).

oh?? wat complain ? shareshare lei .
as wat The Big Bang Theory say pacnet best ??

[aaur4man]

vpn slows down and 10mbit vpn line not cheap

[insecure]

oh?? wat complain ? shareshare lei .
as wat The Big Bang Theory say pacnet best ??

This particular ISP must be doing more than just web filtering to block out banned site because some sites with forms & Flash were misbehaving or not working at all, but when I brought the same machine to my office MetroE network or connect via BBOM it was working fine.

As far as I know, ISP don't employ web filtering proxy for corporate customers, so it's totally direct transparent web surfing. I got a few friends from other ISP to try out the sites, they said no problem at all. I have worked with web filtering devices (e.g. Websense, iPrism, etc.) before, blocking of sites is a simple affair, it should not disturb the web content if the sites were not blacklisted. So it's obviously this ISP is doing worrying things behind our back.

I have logged a complaint and they haven't revert to me yet. I saw this ISP also involved in another thread where users complaining of slow BBOM access, sigh.

[winterrealm]

This particular ISP must be doing more than just web filtering to block out banned site because some sites with forms & Flash were misbehaving or not working at all, but when I brought the same machine to my office MetroE network or connect via BBOM it was working fine.

As far as I know, ISP don't employ web filtering proxy for corporate customers, so it's totally direct transparent web surfing. I got a few friends from other ISP to try out the sites, they said no problem at all. I have worked with web filtering devices (e.g. Websense, iPrism, etc.) before, blocking of sites is a simple affair, it should not disturb the web content if the sites were not blacklisted. So it's obviously this ISP is doing worrying things behind our back.

I have logged a complaint and they haven't revert to me yet. I saw this ISP also involved in another thread where users complaining of slow BBOM access, sigh.

i think i shuld know which isp u trying to say. is great to have u guys ”expert” to complain or check things out when not going well. for ppl like me dont even know wats going on behind our back :eek:

[insecure]

vpn slows down and 10mbit vpn line not cheap

Not true all the time. It depends on where the content is located, sometimes it can be same or even faster. I've tested it out on both RS & MU file-hosting sites, it just 10~15% cut on your download speed, depending on locations. This 10~15% is sometimes offset by additional bandwidth the ISP throw at you (e.g. you subscribed to 8Mbps but actual is 10Mbps). But I believe the price to pay (about 23¢ per day) for the extra protection is worth it.

1 more thing: VPN providers do not usually sell you by bandwidth. :)

[aaur4man]

so cheaps? can send me link? 8mbit is still v fast

[winterrealm]

ya share share which vpn isp u recommend lei

[insecure]

so cheaps? can send me link? 8mbit is still v fast

I'm using WiTopia (witopia.net). You may call me paranoid, I never surf w/o VPN on any Wi-Fi networks. :)

[reimina]

This particular ISP must be doing more than just web filtering to block out banned site because some sites with forms & Flash were misbehaving or not working at all, but when I brought the same machine to my office MetroE network or connect via BBOM it was working fine.

As far as I know, ISP don't employ web filtering proxy for corporate customers, so it's totally direct transparent web surfing. I got a few friends from other ISP to try out the sites, they said no problem at all. I have worked with web filtering devices (e.g. Websense, iPrism, etc.) before, blocking of sites is a simple affair, it should not disturb the web content if the sites were not blacklisted. So it's obviously this ISP is doing worrying things behind our back.

I have logged a complaint and they haven't revert to me yet. I saw this ISP also involved in another thread where users complaining of slow BBOM access, sigh.

Ahem.. What worrying things are you talking about?

[liangtam]

I'm using WiTopia (witopia.net). You may call me paranoid, I never surf w/o VPN on any Wi-Fi networks. :)

Cos it iz will gibe chiu insecure (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/member.php?u=380995)-rity huans :)

[insecure]

Ahem.. What worrying things are you talking about?

Do a search on Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) in Google, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's a worrying trend because ISPs now have the tools to log, analyze, and respond to every bit of data you send and receive. And it's very difficult for a layman to know that DPI has been deployed at their ISPs to collect its clients' online behavior in order to target specific ads to users. The profit potential for ISPs in this entirely new revenue stream is just too huge for them to ignore.

[liangtam]

You think too much le
Besides, you're free not to use that particular ISP.

[czheyuan]

oh.. haha i dont really remember which month have wat IT show
so june is pc show, mid sept comex. anymore?? heh :s22:

March - IT Show
June - PC Show
Sept - COMEX
December - SITEX :s13:

[winterrealm]

March - IT Show
June - PC Show
Sept - COMEX
December - SITEX :s13:

hey thx man lol u remember all by heart ar=:p

[czheyuan]

hey thx man lol u remember all by heart ar=:p

Hahah I'll go to almost every such show mah since usually will have friends who wana go.. So jux go there play play the gadgets or see got gd promos anot.. :s13:

[winterrealm]

I'm using WiTopia (witopia.net). You may call me paranoid, I never surf w/o VPN on any Wi-Fi networks. :)

icc e service actually issue u vpn (private)ip address. so in singapore tats no isp provide tat? cos if i use e private ip means my every connections will direct there lo??

[winterrealm]

Hahah I'll go to almost every such show mah since usually will have friends who wana go.. So jux go there play play the gadgets or see got gd promos anot.. :s13:

lol IT spree.. probably i last day then chiong to sign up internet plan . bcos i will come here n see wat they complain e pros n cons of e plan:s13:

[czheyuan]

lol IT spree.. probably i last day then chiong to sign up internet plan . bcos i will come here n see wat they complain e pros n cons of e plan:s13:

Yeah lo.. Since for broadband first or last day go sign up also same price de... Lols..

[insecure]

You think too much le
Besides, you're free not to use that particular ISP.

I can't, I've a contract with them, I assume most ppl can't too. :(

Furthermore, nobody expect this type of thing when they signed up.

[liangtam]

I can't, I've a contract with them, I assume most ppl can't too. :(

Furthermore, nobody expect this type of thing when they signed up.

Errm, ....
nobody expects you to do illegal stuff per ToS oso what.

[winterrealm]

Yeah lo.. Since for broadband first or last day go sign up also same price de... Lols..

is not abt e price.. cos ppl might come here complain so i can considerate to sign up tat particular service ma=:p

[Poshua]

So which ISP is better?