Some considerations for selecting the right WiFi device for your wireless network

[yaksowmi]

hey guys i just bought the compex wireless kit ($245), i am writing some review on it.

1) very cheap. usb wireless ($85). pcmcia wireless ($69)

2) very good and easy to setup (less than 30min)

3) good and stable connection.
i) outdoor review. my wireless router is facing the windows and i can receive internet in the community centre's study room 100m away ( est. 30% loss in internet speed)(make sure no solid wall is blocking else cant connect at all).

ii) indoor review. 2 storey no problem. (est. 1-2% loss in internet speed)(thru 1 floor)
3 storey i hav a feeling that it shd be no problem too. (est. 10-20% loss in internet speed)(thru 2 floor).(find a way where u can get the reception from the windows)


:bounce:

[yaksowmi]

one bad thing abt this compex system is , the manual mention very little abt setting the network encryption & security.

me dunt realli know how to setup up encryption & security.

can anyone help???

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by yaksowmi
one bad thing abt this compex system is , the manual mention very little abt setting the network encryption & security.

me dunt realli know how to setup up encryption & security.

can anyone help???

the printed manual is just a quick setup guide.

you can read the complete manual contained int he CDRom.

here is how you can set up the wireless:

from main page, go to "wireless setting".

at "wireless setting" window, select "access point", then click "apply", it will lead you to a new window where you can change the SSID, channel number, and the WEP setting as well as the Pseudo VLAN setting.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by yaksowmi
hey guys i just bought the compex wireless kit ($245), i am writing some review on it.

1) very cheap. usb wireless ($85). pcmcia wireless ($69)

2) very good and easy to setup (less than 30min)

3) good and stable connection.
i) outdoor review. my wireless router is facing the windows and i can receive internet in the community centre's study room 100m away ( est. 30% loss in internet speed)(make sure no solid wall is blocking else cant connect at all).

ii) indoor review. 2 storey no problem. (est. 1-2% loss in internet speed)(thru 1 floor)
3 storey i hav a feeling that it shd be no problem too. (est. 10-20% loss in internet speed)(thru 2 floor).(find a way where u can get the reception from the windows)


:bounce:


thanks for this review. you may want to place the router in horizontal position for a better vertical coverage in a 3-storey house.

[rAcEr]

Hi all,

I recently purchased the SMC 7004VWBR wireless router and SMC wireless PCMCIA card from Fuwell (the deluxe members promotion).

Apparently my friend's room on the 2nd floor of a 2 storey house is unable to receive the signal using the
SMC wireless PCMCIA card. However, in the corridor area of the 2nd floor there is a "good" signal.

Any suggestions on this? Is it because the wireless pcmcia card is too weak? or is it the fault of the wireless router? Any signal boosters/antennae available?

Thank you for all suggestions!

[wirelessdan2002]

the SMC PCMCIA card, together with the Linksys WPC11, are among the weakest Prism 3 cards in the market.

since you have bought them, only way is to try find a way to get the bes link possible, some suggestions:

try reposition the wireless router, make sure it is clear of obstacles, and not hidden in any metal cabinet etc. can try to adjust the 2 antennas to horizontal position, should help a little in signal strength improvement upwards. also make sure that the notebook PC is not placed on a metal surface.

[duckieduck]

hi! firstly, wirelessdan2002 you rock! :bounce:

I am thinking of setting up a wireless access point to complement my wired router at HOME...

Have a look at my current set up and the one i plan to have.

Notebook is running Windows 98 SE
The two computers are running Windows XP

http://upok.net/kwanie/wireless.swf

1. Is the current setup feasible (equipment wise)?

2. The notebook is runs on a different TCP/IP configuration in the office. At home I just use cable modem (therefore currently i would have to delete all the TCP/IP settings). Is there anyway i can avoid this deleting?

3. Will the wireless adapters work flawlessly communicating with the printer? Just to confrim since i figure out the Wireless Adapaters are just like wired network cards!

4. I can't seem to find where to get the Fulbond XI-1250A Access Point? Do you know where i can get it and for how much?

Thank you again wirelessdan2002 for you wonderful help! And for any others who actually wld like to help me!

[wirelessdan2002]

you setup is quite straight forwards, and like you said, wireless just wok like normal wired connection, maybe the only difference is the need to include WEP (wired equivalent privacy) encryption to make the link secured.

about the notebook, you should try set the TCP/IP properties to "obtain an IP address automatically", this will work with your router/AP at home as the router as the DHCP server of the home network will assign an IP address. and i assume that your office network too has a DHCP server to assign IP address likewise.

so no problem with the printer. about the Fulbond XI-1250A, last saw it at Bits and Bytes 4th floor SLS, bundled with a Linksys 1-port router BEFSR11 (costs $59 alonne) for $169, you can easily sell off the router for $30, which means the XI-1250A will just cost you $130+, if not try other shops like Network Mobility at 6th floor SLS, should be able to get it for $150.

another choice is the Netgear ME102, now sold in Fuwell for $168.

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


the WAP11 will cost you $230 - $250.

the compex SKW811 kit with the NP16A router + WL11A+ PCMCIA wireless card + WLU11A USB wireless adpater costs only $245, you didn't read my thread below about the kit? :)

dan, you mean the compex bundle includes both the pcmcia wireless adapter and the usb wireless adapter? :eek:

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg


dan, you mean the compex bundle includes both the pcmcia wireless adapter and the usb wireless adapter? :eek:

yes but the WL11A+ PCMCIA card is to be inserted into NP16A router to become a wireless router, the NP16A by itself is only a 4-port wired router. therefore the SKW811 kit is considered as 1 4-port wireless router + 1 USB wireless adapter.

the SKW812 comes with 1 NP16A wired router + 2 WL11A+ PCMCIA wireless adapter, but 1 of the WL11A+ is to be used with NP16A router to become wireless router.

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


yes but the WL11A+ PCMCIA card is to be inserted into NP16A router to become a wireless router, the NP16A by itself is only a 4-port wired router. therefore the SKW811 kit is considered as 1 4-port wireless router + 1 USB wireless adapter.

the SKW812 comes with 1 NP16A wired router + 2 WL11A+ PCMCIA wireless adapter, but 1 of the WL11A+ is to be used with NP16A router to become wireless router.

Oh I see... I thought so good sia.. can forget about buying another wireless adapter.. haha..
With reference to the linksys bundle, does this perform better in terms of coverage and strength?

[SiLLyEgg]

Oh ya... Compex's website is undergoing revamp.. anywhere else I can read the specs of the products?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg


Oh I see... I thought so good sia.. can forget about buying another wireless adapter.. haha..
With reference to the linksys bundle, does this perform better in terms of coverage and strength?

well at $245 you really can't asl for more, otehr bundle like the Linksys is at least $300. and the Compex uses Orinoco based chipset as radio which has reputable performance. you might have missed my test report posted sometime back:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=465320

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg
Oh ya... Compex's website is undergoing revamp.. anywhere else I can read the specs of the products?

believe Compex is updating the site to introduce the SKW812 kit and some other new products.

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


well at $245 you really can't asl for more, otehr bundle like the Linksys is at least $300. and the Compex uses Orinoco based chipset as radio which has reputable performance. you might have missed my test report posted sometime back:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=465320

Thanks for the link!
I read that the Netpassage doesn't have DMZ.. does it really matter?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg


Thanks for the link!
I read that the Netpassage doesn't have DMZ.. does it really matter?

wondering where did you read about that, but the NP16A does come with DMZ feature.

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


wondering where did you read about that, but the NP16A does come with DMZ feature.

Think I read it from neoseeker.com

Anyway just a link from Tom's Hardware
http://www6.tomshardware.com/network/20021203/index.html

I'm just curious why the Compex set is performing badly here...

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg


Think I read it from neoseeker.com

Anyway just a link from Tom's Hardware
http://www6.tomshardware.com/network/20021203/index.html

I'm just curious why the Compex set is performing badly here...


ok, maybe you have misread it somehow, the fact is i am having the router right before me and there is DMZ setup.

Tom's review was sometimes last year, and the Compex was represented by the NP16 (not the NP16A upgrade) and the radio was based on the WL11E PCMCIA card which is a Prism 3 chipset card same as the Linksys WPC11 and SMC2632W. early ths year Compex decided to go for the Agere/Lucent/Orinoco WaveLan chipset for its latest range of WLAN products, the WL11E is replaced by WL11A+ which is infact an Orinoco Gold's clone with at least 30% better performance than the Prism 3 chipset. and the NP16 went through major firmware upgrade to become NP16A to utilise the WL11A+ as radio.

when i was introduced to this NP16 + WL11E combo middle last year, i did not even want to watse my time on it. it is a big leap for Compex in moving to this NP16A + WL11A+ combo.

if you read more details about the features in Tom's review, you wil realise that it also has the least features among all (oh now i know why you said no DMZ, that's the case for NP16).

the NP16A's feature will easily come out top among all, if you read my thread above: features like time based access management, pseudo Vlan, SPI firewall, configuration file backup, remote management etc, are not found in most routers.

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002



ok, maybe you have misread it somehow, the fact is i am having the router right before me and there is DMZ setup.

Tom's review was sometimes last year, and the Compex was represented by the NP16 (not the NP16A upgrade) and the radio was based on the WL11E PCMCIA card which is a Prism 3 chipset card same as the Linksys WPC11 and SMC2632W. early ths year Compex decided to go for the Agere/Lucent/Orinoco WaveLan chipset for its latest range of WLAN products, the WL11E is replaced by WL11A+ which is infact an Orinoco Gold's clone with at least 30% better performance than the Prism 3 chipset. and the NP16 went through major firmware upgrade to become NP16A to utilise the WL11A+ as radio.

when i was introduced to this NP16 + WL11E combo middle last year, i did not even want to watse my time on it. it is a big leap for Compex in moving to this NP16A + WL11A+ combo.

if you read more details about the features in Tom's review, you wil realise that it also has the least features among all (oh now i know why you said no DMZ, that's the case for NP16).

the NP16A's feature will easily come out top among all, if you read my thread above: features like time based access management, pseudo Vlan, SPI firewall, configuration file backup, remote management etc, are not found in most routers.

That answers my questions :)
Thanks dude! Looks like I'll be heading down to HardwarePlace soon.

[vancomycin]

To: wirelessdan2002


Hi, i'm relatively new to the wireless world, though i have some experience with wired network (SMC7004ABR)..

I have a couple of questions which I hope u might answers. So thanks in advance

1. most recent posts in this thread mention the Compex SKW812 , is it easy to set up, i couldn't find the manual at compex website and wonder if it's web based interface or what. And also..is the company reliable?

2. how do u think of Linksys BEFW11S4?

3. is there any recommended dsl modems which works flawlessly with the above 2 wireless products? eg. Aztech 305e any good?


Thanks so much!

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by vancomycin
To: wirelessdan2002


Hi, i'm relatively new to the wireless world, though i have some experience with wired network (SMC7004ABR)..

I have a couple of questions which I hope u might answers. So thanks in advance

1. most recent posts in this thread mention the Compex SKW812 , is it easy to set up, i couldn't find the manual at compex website and wonder if it's web based interface or what. And also..is the company reliable?

2. how do u think of Linksys BEFW11S4?

3. is there any recommended dsl modems which works flawlessly with the above 2 wireless products? eg. Aztech 305e any good?


Thanks so much!


the manual is not available on Compex site. it is easy to setup using web interface, Compex is a Singapore company, based in Joo Send Road near Paya Lebar, i trust "made in Singapore" products more than "made in Taiwan" or "made in China" products. and it has 3 years warranty.

Linksys BEFW11S4 is a competent wireless router too, if you read through my posting it was 1 of my favourites too. but the Compex at more than 20% cheaper and performs much better than the already good Linksys, is a real value for money, check out my other thread on the comparison of the 2:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=475641

you can get the SKW812 at $245 from The Hardware Place, which includes the NP16A based wireless router, and 1 PCMCIA wireless card. if you also require an USB wireless adapter, Carrefour is throwing the WLU11A USB adapter on top of the SKW812, for $299.

The Linksys bundle would cost you $60 to $80 more.

Aztech DSL305E is a cheap and good modem, $99 from Fuwell.


oh yeah just found out that you can download the manual from the Compex USA site www.cpx.com:

http://www.cpx.com/prodspec.asp?f=Manual&s=1

other than the quick install manual for the SKW811, the 19 MB manual for the NP16A has great details on router's setup.

[ItsJustMe]

have an OT qns here..

will putting the wireless router near your PC fry your brain? :D

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by ItsJustMe
have an OT qns here..

will putting the wireless router near your PC fry your brain? :D

of course not my friend :)

[ItsJustMe]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


of course not my friend :)


thanx Dan! just worried coz my mum and sis alwaz walking ard :)

rem i still owe u a coffee! :D

[vancomycin]

Hi Dan, thanks for ur info above!

I hope u can answer another question. Is it ok to setup a network with differing OS (ie. 2 windows 98 SE, and 1 win XP.) I heard the Win98 machines will not be able to see the winxp machine...


once again thanks! :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by vancomycin
Hi Dan, thanks for ur info above!

I hope u can answer another question. Is it ok to setup a network with differing OS (ie. 2 windows 98 SE, and 1 win XP.) I heard the Win98 machines will not be able to see the winxp machine...


once again thanks! :)


not really a problem, if you use the WinXP machine to create a network setup wizard and run it on the Win98 machine.

[aberdeen_100]

Hi wirelessdan2002,

I’m new to wireless networking and thinking of setting up a home wireless network for my 3 storey house. Wondering if you can give some advice for the following config

Singnet BB
Alcatel Speed home Ethernet Modem
1 laptop and 1 desktop on 2nd Floor
1 laptop and 1 ibook (Mac OS) on 3rd floor

The Ethernet modem is located on 3rd floor with the Mac ibook. Not sure what other equipment I require other than wireless router (x01), PCMCIA wireless card (x02) and usb adapter (x01). Thinking of connecting my Mac ibook to the router using wire.

Was thinking of trying your "value for money" combo i.e. Linksys BEFW11S4 wrieless router, Compex WLU11A USB wireless adapter, and Enzer Skyroam Silver PCMCIA card. Will it be more advisable to go with the Senao SL2511SR+ wireless router for better signal for 3 storey hourse?

For the Mac ibook which I’m thinking of connecting via cable, is it necessary to get a switch or try the Intel Wireless Gateway instead?

Thanks in advance!
:)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aberdeen_100
Hi wirelessdan2002,

IúÈ new to wireless networking and thinking of setting up a home wireless network for my 3 storey house. Wondering if you can give some advice for the following config

Singnet BB
Alcatel Speed home Ethernet Modem
1 laptop and 1 desktop on 2nd Floor
1 laptop and 1 ibook (Mac OS) on 3rd floor

The Ethernet modem is located on 3rd floor with the Mac ibook. Not sure what other equipment I require other than wireless router (x01), PCMCIA wireless card (x02) and usb adapter (x01). Thinking of connecting my Mac ibook to the router using wire.

Was thinking of trying your "value for money" combo i.e. Linksys BEFW11S4 wrieless router, Compex WLU11A USB wireless adapter, and Enzer Skyroam Silver PCMCIA card. Will it be more advisable to go with the Senao SL2511SR+ wireless router for better signal for 3 storey hourse?

For the Mac ibook which IúÈ thinking of connecting via cable, is it necessary to get a switch or try the Intel Wireless Gateway instead?

Thanks in advance!
:)


hmm....the BEFW11S4's combo is already outdated

you probably did not read about my thread on my latest favourite - the Compex SKW811 and SKW812 kits:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=474798

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=475641

these kits perform much better than the Linksys, and have many more great features to boost about:

http://www.azacamis.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=596

and the kit is al least 20% cheaper than the Linksys.

try to rush down to Carrefour the get the SKW812 kit + 1 WLU11A USB wireless adapter at $299 (limited sets left), with this you have a 4-port wireles router, 1 WL11A+ PCMCIA card, 1 WLU11A USB wireless adapter, you just need to get 1 more WL11A+ at $69.

i am confident that this system will work well for your house, and you will sure find the many features useful.

[aberdeen_100]

Thanks! will rush down after work today to carrefour.. btw, is the WL11A+ PCMCIA card compatiable with Mac ibook? My sis will prob kill me if i left her Mac out of the setup. =p

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aberdeen_100
Thanks! will rush down after work today to carrefour.. btw, is the WL11A+ PCMCIA card compatiable with Mac ibook? My sis will prob kill me if i left her Mac out of the setup. =p

the WL11A+ is infact using Agere/Lucent/Orinoco chipset which is also used in the Airport card for the Ibook, the trouble is WL11A+ is PCMCIA form factor interface therefore cannot be plugged into the Ibook.

you need to get an Airport card for about $120 instead. don't get the 22 Mbps Airport Extreme.

Since you have saved a little by getting the Compex kit, maybe should invest in the Airport card, instead of using wired connection for the Ibook.

[alamak]

how's the PCI promotion for HWZ members?

considering that, the compex one or getting the mr314.....

thanks

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by alamak
how's the PCI promotion for HWZ members?

considering that, the compex one or getting the mr314.....

thanks


have no feel about the PCI AP, but the PCMCIA card is a Prism chipset card which fall far short of the Compex WL11A+ in term of performance. my personal opinion is the Compex kit is still the best value for money, with superb performance, many great features, and cheap.

[belgarathc]

Hi,

I have set up a home wireless network (Compex NP16A, WLU11 and WLA11) to share internet access.
However, my network cannot share files. Whenever I click on workgroup, I can see the other computers that are connected but I will be asked for a password in order to access them. What is this password? Do I need to run winxp network setup wizard at each of the computers in order to share files?

I also have a few other questions.
1) why does the WLAN led on NP16A keep flashing when no wireless devices are connected? If there is a wireless device conected, it also flashes.
2) I have read about MAC filtering. How do I implement this in my network?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by belgarathc
Hi,

I have set up a home wireless network (Compex NP16A, WLU11 and WLA11) to share internet access.
However, my network cannot share files. Whenever I click on workgroup, I can see the other computers that are connected but I will be asked for a password in order to access them. What is this password? Do I need to run winxp network setup wizard at each of the computers in order to share files?

I also have a few other questions.
1) why does the WLAN led on NP16A keep flashing when no wireless devices are connected? If there is a wireless device conected, it also flashes.
2) I have read about MAC filtering. How do I implement this in my network?

you need to run the network setup wizard on all the PCs, after that you will not be prompted with password.

think the LED flashing is normal indicating wireless activity. even when there is no client adapter around the AP will still send out beacon signal to search for client station.

instead of using the usual MAC address control, NP16A has a more versatile pseudo VLAN function, read the detailed manual from page 76 onwards about this function.

[BoCho1]

Hi Wirelessdan,

How good is the Fulbond AP XI-1250A if used in a 5-rm flat ?

[belgarathc]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


you need to run the network setup wizard on all the PCs, after that you will not be prompted with password.

think the LED flashing is normal indicating wireless activity. even when there is no client adapter around the AP will still send out beacon signal to search for client station.

instead of using the usual MAC address control, NP16A has a more versatile pseudo VLAN function, read the detailed manual from page 76 onwards about this function.
thanks for the quick rely
will try them out on monday :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by BoCho1
Hi Wirelessdan,

How good is the Fulbond AP XI-1250A if used in a 5-rm flat ?

definitely no problem for 5-rm flat, but for best result make sure there are less than 3 walls in between the link.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by belgarathc

thanks for the quick rely
will try them out on monday :)

before you explore further on all the features of the NP16A, try to save the working configuration, just in case the router's setting is messed up: "save and reset settings" then "backup".

[BoCho1]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


definitely no problem for 5-rm flat, but for best result make sure there are less than 3 walls in between the link.

Thanks wirelessdan,
but does height of the AP being installed pose any signal/link deterioration ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by BoCho1


Thanks wirelessdan,
but does height of the AP being installed pose any signal/link deterioration ?

height won't pose much problem but most importantly is to be clear of obstacle, in this case higher level will have better obstacle clearance. placing it behind electrical appliances like TV and HiFi sets will definitely attenuate the signal badly.

[BoCho1]

wirelessdan,
i really appreciate the useful tips.
friends of mine using Fulbond AP XI-1250A experienced fluctuating signal strength, saying it's normal.
is that a norm for all wireless AP and clients ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by BoCho1
wirelessdan,
i really appreciate the useful tips.
friends of mine using Fulbond AP XI-1250A experienced fluctuating signal strength, saying it's normal.
is that a norm for all wireless AP and clients ?

is not normal if the distance is close and not much obstacles in between. i did not remember such fluctuation when i was testing the XI-1250A.

[aberdeen_100]

Hi wirelessdan2002,

Great recommendation on the Compex Wireless set from carrefour. Thanks very much! so far no problem connecting my notebooks on 2nd and 3rd floor. BUt having trouble setting up wired connection for the ibook - somehow cannot connect to PPPoE server. Will it be easier with the airport card?

Noticed that the Netpassage set/power gets quite hot after leaving on for whole night. Is it safe to leave it always on or must i turn it off during the day? Worried that the power supply might burn out.

Gonna tinker with the rest of the features this week...just too many for me to handle at once

THanks :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aberdeen_100
Hi wirelessdan2002,

Great recommendation on the Compex Wireless set from carrefour. Thanks very much! so far no problem connecting my notebooks on 2nd and 3rd floor. BUt having trouble setting up wired connection for the ibook - somehow cannot connect to PPPoE server. Will it be easier with the airport card?

Noticed that the Netpassage set/power gets quite hot after leaving on for whole night. Is it safe to leave it always on or must i turn it off during the day? Worried that the power supply might burn out.

Gonna tinker with the rest of the features this week...just too many for me to handle at once

THanks :)

shoulldn't be difficult for the ibook, you may want to explain further the problem, why do you need to connect to PPPoE server? thought the PPPoE dialing is done in the router. to me both wired and wireless connection are pretty straight forwards for ibook and Mac.

is normal for the router and the power adapter to get warm, just like any PC system, i have 1 set switched on for more than 3 weeks now non-stop. just make sure that the surrounding is well ventilated, ie. it is not kept in enclosed space eg. cabinet etc.

have fun with the features, remember to implement WEP encryption.

[aberdeen_100]

hmm... might have done it wrongly then... at first had trouble cuz the browser was set to work with dialup modem. Maybe i should remove all the past connections and start from the default. will try again tonight.

nearly locked myself out of the system when i tried WEP, forgot the number of digits to enter

=p

[aberdeen_100]

Hi wirelessdan2002, thanks for the advice again. Managed to get the ibook up and connected by removing the PPPoE setting. :D

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aberdeen_100
Hi wirelessdan2002, thanks for the advice again. Managed to get the ibook up and connected by removing the PPPoE setting. :D

great, but that shouldn't be the excuse to deprive your sister of the Airport card eventuallly :)

[pk]

Hi Wirelessdan,

I understand that most AP or AP/router support only ethernet connections. So if I am getting a ethernet adsl modem with router. I will only need a AP rite? (since routing is taken care of by the modem?)

What do you think of the aztech 305E ethernet w/router modem?

I am thinking of sharing broadband access between my parents and my flat. Both flats are on the same floor and is side by side. However there are quite a number of walls in between as the PCs are located in the rooms.

Reading from the thread, it seems that Fulbond AP provides the most powerful signals. Is it recommended?

Or any other alternative?

Thank you! :)

[Jessen]

Originally posted by pk
Hi Wirelessdan,

I understand that most AP or AP/router support only ethernet connections. So if I am getting a ethernet adsl modem with router. I will only need a AP rite? (since routing is taken care of by the modem?)

What do you think of the aztech 305E ethernet w/router modem?

I am thinking of sharing broadband access between my parents and my flat. Both flats are on the same floor and is side by side. However there are quite a number of walls in between as the PCs are located in the rooms.

Reading from the thread, it seems that Fulbond AP provides the most powerful signals. Is it recommended?

Or any other alternative?

Thank you! :)

Not sure abt wireless dan's recommendation but I will recommend that you give Aztech's a skip. Would highly recomemend that you go 4 Efficient Speedstreams's Ethernet modems coupled with Linksys's BEFWS4 wireless router AP. Better reliability.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by pk
Hi Wirelessdan,

I understand that most AP or AP/router support only ethernet connections. So if I am getting a ethernet adsl modem with router. I will only need a AP rite? (since routing is taken care of by the modem?)

What do you think of the aztech 305E ethernet w/router modem?

I am thinking of sharing broadband access between my parents and my flat. Both flats are on the same floor and is side by side. However there are quite a number of walls in between as the PCs are located in the rooms.

Reading from the thread, it seems that Fulbond AP provides the most powerful signals. Is it recommended?

Or any other alternative?

Thank you! :)

the Aztech DSL305E at $98 (Video Pro 5th floor SLS) is really value for money, as it can also be upgraded to a router by flashing the DSL305EU firmware.

if you do not need any wired connection, getting this Aztech modem and upagrade it to DSL305EU and then connect it to an access point is a good idea, and you can always add in a swwitch later if you need wired connection.

Fulbond XI-1250A was my favourite 3 months ago as at $160 it was the cheaper than other AP by at least $30 to $50.

but now there are many other options and prices are getting close to the Fulbond.

my favourite now is either the Compex NP16A + WL11A+ wireless router which is part of the SKW811 or SKW812 kit (real cost is around $170 after deducting the cost of the wireless adapter included), or the Intel Wireless gateway at $178.

both are having better performance than the Fulbond.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Jessen


Not sure abt wireless dan's recommendation but I will recommend that you give Aztech's a skip. Would highly recomemend that you go 4 Efficient Speedstreams's Ethernet modems coupled with Linksys's BEFWS4 wireless router AP. Better reliability.

no doubt that Efficient modem are good, but at almost double the cost of an Aztech, i would go for the Aztech. time is bad and cash is king these days.

Linksys BEFW11S4 used to be my favourite wireless router, but many other good buy are catching up, and i am not too sure about the relaibility now as i have known about at least 3 cases of its pre mature failure.

Compex NP16A+ WL11A+ wireless router is much cheaper and also better performance than the Linksys, and it comes with 3 years local warranty.

[pk]

OK... getting a bit confused...

This Compex NP16A and WP11A+ what is the difference?

Looking at their product info seems like the same.

If I get Compex NP16A, I still need a ethernet modem rite? And if the ethernet modem is also a router? Then which one becomes the router? NP16A or the modem?

By the way, the PC which these devices are connected to, need not be on rite?

Thanks!

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by pk
OK... getting a bit confused...

This Compex NP16A and WP11A+ what is the difference?

Looking at their product info seems like the same.

If I get Compex NP16A, I still need a ethernet modem rite? And if the ethernet modem is also a router? Then which one becomes the router? NP16A or the modem?

By the way, the PC which these devices are connected to, need not be on rite?

Thanks!

NP16A is 4-port wired router which is wireless ready, ie. upgradable to a wireless router. WL11A+ is a PCMCIA wireless adapter used normally for notebook PC. by inserting a WL11A+ into the NP16A, the NP16A will have wireless capability.

Aztech 305E is the cheapest ethernet ADSL modem on the market now at $99, it can be upgraded to become a 1 port router, but if you are to use it with the Compex NP16A, then there is no need to upgrade its firmware, just use t as modem.


yes all the PC can connect to the internet independently, the modem and router do no have to connect to any PC, but if you have PC which is near the modem androuter, you can use wired connection and save on wireless adapter.

[pk]

Hi Wirelessdan,

Thanks for the reply. I think I have a clearer picture now.

But I think you misread my post. I was refering to the WP11A+ not the WL11A+ :)

I think WP11A+ should be like kind of a newer version of NP16A?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by pk
Hi Wirelessdan,

Thanks for the reply. I think I have a clearer picture now.

But I think you misread my post. I was refering to the WP11A+ not the WL11A+ :)

I think WP11A+ should be like kind of a newer version of NP16A?

oh ok, got it now.

WP11A+ is actually a standalone AP, ie. without routing function and the 4-port switch.

it is good for users with existing wired network, the WP11A+ can be plug into 1 of the router's LAN ports and take care of the wireless part of the network.

[Supreme]

Hi Guys,

I've just got the Compex bundle from Carrefour and trying to use it with my Aztech 305E on Singnet BB. Problem is I cannot establish PPPoE connection even on wired lan. Have already cleared the modem as transperant mode for used with a BB router and have set my userid/password. Still no go. Did I missed out anything? Now resetted back my modem to normal so I can post my queries here.

Appreciate if someone with similar setup or experience can help me with this problem. Thanks.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Supreme
Hi Guys,

I've just got the Compex bundle from Carrefour and trying to use it with my Aztech 305E on Singnet BB. Problem is I cannot establish PPPoE connection even on wired lan. Have already cleared the modem as transperant mode for used with a BB router and have set my userid/password. Still no go. Did I missed out anything? Now resetted back my modem to normal so I can post my queries here.

Appreciate if someone with similar setup or experience can help me with this problem. Thanks.

firstly try flash the latest firmware version 20.20.7 for the DSL305E (www.aztech.com), and set it to full bridge mode again ("connectrouter").

now connect the DSL305E's output to the WAN port of the NP16A, and connect the PC's NIC to 1 of the LAN ports. set the NIC's TCP/IP properties to "obtain an IP address automatically". (it must be in manual setting when you were setting up the DSL305E).

make sure the NIC gets an IP address 192.168.168.xxx from the NP16A's DHCP server. then try access NP16A's setup page at 192.168.168.1 using the Internet Explorer.

if successfully access the setup page, login and select "WAN setup", choose PPPoE and enter the user ID and password, select "always-on". make sure you save the settings (may need ot scroll down the page a bit) and then reboot.

hopefully you get it this time, if not tell us your problem is at which step above.

[Supreme]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


firstly try flash the latest firmware version 20.20.7 for the DSL305E (www.aztech.com), and set it to full bridge mode again ("connectrouter").

now connect the DSL305E's output to the WAN port of the NP16A, and connect the PC's NIC to 1 of the LAN ports. set the NIC's TCP/IP properties to "obtain an IP address automatically". (it must be in manual setting when you were setting up the DSL305E).

make sure the NIC gets an IP address 192.168.168.xxx from the NP16A's DHCP server. then try access NP16A's setup page at 192.168.168.1 using the Internet Explorer.

if successfully access the setup page, login and select "WAN setup", choose PPPoE and enter the user ID and password, select "always-on". make sure you save the settings (may need ot scroll down the page a bit) and then reboot.

hopefully you get it this time, if not tell us your problem is at which step above.

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the advise, I did as recommended (less flashing the modem). All's well now. Now can connect either by wired lan or wireless. Most probably screwed up when I tried to set the modem to full bridge mode in the first instance. Cheers.

BTW, do you need to set the 4 keys for WEP or just set 1 and use it? My WinXP only allow me to enter numeric but the Compex manual describes setting the key in Hex. Any advise here?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Supreme


Hi Dan,

Thanks for the advise, I did as recommended (less flashing the modem). All's well now. Now can connect either by wired lan or wireless. Most probably screwed up when I tried to set the modem to full bridge mode in the first instance. Cheers.

BTW, do you need to set the 4 keys for WEP or just set 1 and use it? My WinXP only allow me to enter numeric but the Compex manual describes setting the key in Hex. Any advise here?

just key in first set of keys will do.

the WinXP wireless networking utility should allow you either ASCII (8-bit alphanumeric) input or Hexadecimal (4-bit 0-9, a-f) input. using 64-bit WEP, it will be either 5 ASCII characters or 10 Hexadecimal digits.

[belgarathc]

is it true that because cordless phones (not dect) use the 2.4ghz band, there will be interference with 802.11b?

will using a different channel helps?

are microwave ovens using the same frequency?

what channels can we use in singapore for 802.11b?

[EDDY777]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your advices. I have actually setup a wireless network with the Fulbond XI-1250A access point and the Compex WLU11A USB client.

I was very satisifed with the performance as I can almost always get excellent signal strength from anywhere in my 3-storey house.

However, recently I bought the Compex WL11A+ pcmcia card for my notebook and I was quite disappointed.

I compared the reception of both the WL11A+ and WLU11A with my notebook and I can see quite a big difference. In areas where I can get "excellent" strength with the WLU11A, I can only get "very low" or even "no signal" strength with the WL11A+. The range of my USB client is much further than my pcmcia card.

I have no chance to compare with other pcmcia wireless cards, but is this normal??

[Supreme]

Originally posted by belgarathc
is it true that because cordless phones (not dect) use the 2.4ghz band, there will be interference with 802.11b?

will using a different channel helps?

are microwave ovens using the same frequency?

what channels can we use in singapore for 802.11b?

I have a philips Kala Dect phone and a wireless network. So far did not notice any interference. :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by belgarathc
is it true that because cordless phones (not dect) use the 2.4ghz band, there will be interference with 802.11b?

will using a different channel helps?

are microwave ovens using the same frequency?

what channels can we use in singapore for 802.11b?

cordless phone has really very little effect on the 802.11B's wireless link.

the most problematic external interference are from the wireless networks of your neighbours. most common default channels for the popular routers are channel 6 (Linksys, Dlink, Acer), channel 1 (Orinoco, Compex, SMC, Motorola) and channel 11 (Netgear, Cisco). to make sure you have a robust link, switch to channel 3, 5, 7, and the best of course is channel 4, from my years of war driving, less than 10% of local users use channel 4 :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by EDDY777
Hi Dan,

Thanks for your advices. I have actually setup a wireless network with the Fulbond XI-1250A access point and the Compex WLU11A USB client.

I was very satisifed with the performance as I can almost always get excellent signal strength from anywhere in my 3-storey house.

However, recently I bought the Compex WL11A+ pcmcia card for my notebook and I was quite disappointed.

I compared the reception of both the WL11A+ and WLU11A with my notebook and I can see quite a big difference. In areas where I can get "excellent" strength with the WLU11A, I can only get "very low" or even "no signal" strength with the WL11A+. The range of my USB client is much further than my pcmcia card.

I have no chance to compare with other pcmcia wireless cards, but is this normal??

WL11A+ is almongst the best of the PCMCIA wireless cards with its Agere chipset and Orinoco based design.

of course WLU11A is also 1 of the best USB wireless adapters around. to have a fair comparison between the 2, you should ensure that the WL11A+ can be positioned in such a way that it is clear of immediate obstacles especially your own body and the notebook body. USB wireless adapter has the advantage of being able to be positioned at higher level eg. on top of the monitor.

[Jason380]

Hi Dan,

Could you please advise which hardware to get for the wireless setup in 5rm HDB? Which Ethernet ADSL modem is good?
Requires to have print server in the router.

02 X PC (WinXp Pro & Win2000 Pro)
02 X laptop (Win2000 Pro)

Both PC got network cards and in the same room.

How do I setup the laptop (from Co.) which is using domain to link with the home network such that the laptops can see and share files with the 2 PCs plus the internet connection?

Thanks in advance.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Jason380
Hi Dan,

Could you please advise which hardware to get for the wireless setup in 5rm HDB? Which Ethernet ADSL modem is good?
Requires to have print server in the router.

02 X PC (WinXp Pro & Win2000 Pro)
02 X laptop (Win2000 Pro)

Both PC got network cards and in the same room.

How do I setup the laptop (from Co.) which is using domain to link with the home network such that the laptops can see and share files with the 2 PCs plus the internet connection?

Thanks in advance.

can consider this cheap and good wireless router with print server:

Planex (P.C.I) 3-port with print server at $199 (Bits and Bytes 4th floor SLS ot Network Mobility 6th floor SLS), it is a SMC7004 AVWR's clone but $30+ cheaper.

for modem, the Aztech DSL305E at $98 from Fuwell is a good buy.

if need to get PCMCIA wireless card, try the I-Connect model at $55 from Fuwell too, it is using Agere Wavelan chipset same as the Orinoco/Avaya card.

the only way to to join a home network is to switch from the domain and join workgroup when you really need to do so at home, and when you are back in the office join back the domain.

[alpc]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002
the only way to to join a home network is to switch from the domain and join workgroup when you really need to do so at home, and when you are back in the office join back the domain.

That is ok if your company's domain do not have controls. Unlike the company I'm in now... Everytime you want to rejoin the domain, you need to key in a username and password and that is given to domain controller only and we do not have access to it.

In this case, is there any other way round it? Say if your network contains a laptop with W2K and a PC with WinXP Pro.... Maybe, later add in a file server. :D

[Jason380]

Originally posted by alpc


That is ok if your company's domain do not have controls. Unlike the company I'm in now... Everytime you want to rejoin the domain, you need to key in a username and password and that is given to domain controller only and we do not have access to it.

In this case, is there any other way round it? Say if your network contains a laptop with W2K and a PC with WinXP Pro.... Maybe, later add in a file server. :D

Hi Alpc,

Thanks. My company's domain is being controlled.
So, cannot simply change to workgroup.

How to resolve this without going to the IT dept. everytime needs to re-join the domain?

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


Planex (P.C.I) 3-port with print server at $199 (Bits and Bytes 4th floor SLS ot Network Mobility 6th floor SLS), it is a SMC7004 AVWR's clone but $30+ cheaper.

for modem, the Aztech DSL305E at $98 from Fuwell is a good buy.

if need to get PCMCIA wireless card, try the I-Connect model at $55 from Fuwell too, it is using Agere Wavelan chipset same as the Orinoco/Avaya card.

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the info. Will go down to SLS to get the hardwares.

:bounce:

[belgarathc]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


cordless phone has really very little effect on the 802.11B's wireless link.

the most problematic external interference are from the wireless networks of your neighbours. most common default channels for the popular routers are channel 6 (Linksys, Dlink, Acer), channel 1 (Orinoco, Compex, SMC, Motorola) and channel 11 (Netgear, Cisco). to make sure you have a robust link, switch to channel 3, 5, 7, and the best of course is channel 4, from my years of war driving, less than 10% of local users use channel 4 :)
i have tried, when my wireless router is switched on, my cordless phone cant be used.. only when the wireless router is switched off can i use the phone
both are using channel 3
are they using the same frequency?
:confused:
btw, i read that in some countries, certain channels are not allowed... how about singapore?

[alpc]

I notice that for linksys usb adaptor, the software(WLAN monitor) accompanying it does not allow us to set the WEP as open or share key system. So if say I change my AP to shared key.... I can't access the AP.... What can I do in this case? I'm using w2k...

[ngbc]

Hi WirelessDan,

Any ideas how's I-connect wireless router's peformance compared to Compex SKW812 kit ?

HWP selling I-connect wireless BB router @$125, PCMICIA @$49 & USB @$59, total=233 --> that's $66 lower than Compex Kit sold at Carrefour, so tempting....

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by ngbc
Hi WirelessDan,

Any ideas how's I-connect wireless router's peformance compared to Compex SKW812 kit ?

HWP selling I-connect wireless BB router @$125, PCMICIA @$49 & USB @$59, total=233 --> that's $66 lower than Compex Kit sold at Carrefour, so tempting....

thanks for the information. i believe both the PCMCIA card and USB adapter should be ok as they are same design as the Compex client adapters.

as for the wireless router AP-800, i have no feel at all, even the I-Connect website does not have the documentation for the AP-800.

but since it is only $125, i will bebuying 1 set tomorrow and test it out, will keep you guys posted about its performance and feature early next week.

[ngbc]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


but since it is only $125, i will bebuying 1 set tomorrow and test it out, will keep you guys posted about its performance and feature early next week.

Thanks for being so helpful... looking forward to your post on this wireless router!

[wirelessdan2002]

got my I-Connect AP-800 4-port router from The Hardware Place this afternoon too.

saw that they blank off the prices for the I-Connect products. David explained that the agent came down and made noise late yesterday (probably due to complains by the other shops) and asked them not to sell at that prices. guess they will change the price to "ask".

anyway David sold me at $125. the router does not look impressive physically, especially its small size and white plastic casing. the packaging materials too looked cheap and the only printed document is a single page instruction printed on normal A4 size printing paper. just the casing, the packaging and documentation have probably saved the manufacturer $30. these are actually fine with me, afterall it is probably targetting at the budget concious shoppers of wireelss networking product.

but the biggest turn-off for me is the AC adapter. while most other models use switching regulator AC adapter which is light, energy efficient, producing less heat and more reliable, the I-Connect AP-800 opts for the cheap and heavy weight linear regulator type, infact the AC adapter is at least 30% heavier than the router itself. anoher $15 to $20 is saved in the AC adapter.

these explain the $50 or so discount of the AP-800 compared to more popular brands/models like the Linksys BEFW11S4.

and these are about all the complains i have on the I-Connect AP-800. setting up is a breeze just like most products on the market now. the web based configuration is user friendly enough, all the standard features for wireless router are there.

a quick comparison of its transmission power with the Linksys BEFW11S4 and Compex NP16A + WL11A+ showed that it comes in between the 2, producing 1 to 2 db more radio power than the Linksys, and falling slightly short of the Compex by 2 to 3 db.

my conclusions till far?

the AP-800 may look cheap (which is meant to be, from the way it is priced), it should be a competent performer good enough for most HDB households' application. if anyone comes to me asking recommendation for a wireless setup (wireless router + 1 wireless client adapter) for less than $200, i will not hesitate to recommend the AP-800.

value for money comparison? about the same value for money with the Linksys BEFW11S4, since setup and performance wise they are equal, you pay the price premium of $50 to $60 for the Linksys, for the neat and more upmarket packaging and physical appearence.

Compex SKW811/SKW812 wireless gateway kit remains my best value for money system for now, for the great performance and great features.

but the I-Connect range of products really bring the affordability of wireless LAN products to a new level. if The Hardware Place continue to sell the wireless router for $125 (just $10 to $20 more than wired router), and the wireless client for $49 (not much more than installing a $15 NIC and laying a long UTP cable with proper termination and trunking), everyone should rethink if he really want to go through the hassle of laying the network cables around the house.

read also Edmund Koh's impression of the AP-800:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=487916

and also my impression of the WPC-11B PCMCIA wireless card, it si definitely a winner!!

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?threadid=488691

[adsl]

Hi wirelessdan,

wonder if you've notice a new player in the market. Its called Daggerwing. 4port router with wifi. Which is an AP pcmcia insert.

I've tried search this forum on this brand, but couldn't find any. Any thing from you? Thanks.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by adsl
Hi wirelessdan,

wonder if you've notice a new player in the market. Its called Daggerwing. 4port router with wifi. Which is an AP pcmcia insert.

I've tried search this forum on this brand, but couldn't find any. Any thing from you? Thanks.

Daggerwing is not new. someone has mentioned it here a few months back.

i saw it myself in a few SLS shops, not really impressed by it: mainly the price, $288 for a ADSL modem + 4-port router, and $388 for modem-router-wireless AP.

these days you can get ADSL ethernet modem for $100, wired 4-port router for $100, or a wireless 4-port router for $160, so the Daggerwing's products prices are way too high, almost $100 more, which does not justify for the saving of a few interconnecting wires.

[adsl]

But that would means 3 pcs of equiptments rather than jus 1. So if there is a problem, it would means its the unit rather than having to find out which one cause the problem. right?

have you try the performance before? Is the features good?

I'm interested in the previous thread on this topic. did a search but couldn't find. Do you know where and which topic to search? Thanks.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by adsl
But that would means 3 pcs of equiptments rather than jus 1. So if there is a problem, it would means its the unit rather than having to find out which one cause the problem. right?

have you try the performance before? Is the features good?

I'm interested in the previous thread on this topic. did a search but couldn't find. Do you know where and which topic to search? Thanks.

trust me, don't watse time on this, have replied you in the other thread, and you probably will agree with me more.

i will only be interested in this prouct, if it is priced below $250, if not i will not watse my time looking at it.

[Ethanol]

Hi,

if my laptops come with intergrated wireless, i just need a router to share my access?

or must i find out whether they are compatible or something?

Thanks

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Ethanol
Hi,

if my laptops come with intergrated wireless, i just need a router to share my access?

or must i find out whether they are compatible or something?

Thanks

yes you just need a router, and of course you must have an modem (either cable modem or ADSL modem) with ethernet port output.

almost all integrated wireless card now is 802.11B card, which means any 802.11B wireless router will work with the built-in card.

[Ethanol]

thanks wirelessdan

could i check back if i have more questions?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Ethanol
thanks wirelessdan

could i check back if i have more questions?

sure, or you can email me direct at wirelessdan2002@yahoo.com.sg.

[SiLLyEgg]

dan.. any idea why my Win XP tells me that Wireless Connection Unavailable occasionally? And that means I can't surf.. until the connection gets back online...

Straight line distance is about 8m with the router higher than the comp.. with 2 walls in between.. no electrical appliances in the middle.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg
dan.. any idea why my Win XP tells me that Wireless Connection Unavailable occasionally? And that means I can't surf.. until the connection gets back online...

Straight line distance is about 8m with the router higher than the comp.. with 2 walls in between.. no electrical appliances in the middle.


is a notebbok or desktop?

also what's the signal strength like when it was connected?

[SiLLyEgg]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002



is a notebbok or desktop?

also what's the signal strength like when it was connected?

It's a desktop using the usb adapter. I haven't had time to test the laptop out yet.. probably will do it during the weekends.

The frequency by which it disconnects is irregular.. sometimes it just gets dropped from the network and cannot connect back until reboot.. other times.. the device disappears from Network Connections and the connection with it...

Signal strength excellent.

I'm suspecting a USB conflict becoz it's kinda similar to what I experienced when I tried to use a usb adsl modem on win xp using this system.. Win ME didn't have this problem...
I'll be trying Win ME tomorrow if I'm free..

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by SiLLyEgg


It's a desktop using the usb adapter. I haven't had time to test the laptop out yet.. probably will do it during the weekends.

The frequency by which it disconnects is irregular.. sometimes it just gets dropped from the network and cannot connect back until reboot.. other times.. the device disappears from Network Connections and the connection with it...

Signal strength excellent.

I'm suspecting a USB conflict becoz it's kinda similar to what I experienced when I tried to use a usb adsl modem on win xp using this system.. Win ME didn't have this problem...
I'll be trying Win ME tomorrow if I'm free..

ok try on the Win ME platform and see how it goes.

[Illegal_Operation]

Hi Wirelessdan, i am giving a project to implement wireless internet in the office. So thinking of see whether you have any recommendation of a good Wireless Access Points and PCMCIA cards. And also is 11a going to come out of the market soon? I scared that when i buy those 11b , then it won't be compatible with 11a when it comes out. Thanks

[SiLLyEgg]

Dan.. no problems with Win ME.. guess it's the dumb chipset incompatibility I've been suffering from all the time.. oh well.. gotta wait till I change cpu/mobo...

[pantalonko]

Hi wirelessdan, i just started using Wifi and just bought 1 compex WLU11A and a AP Linksys BEF11S4. Unfortunately i'm having trouble using this set up. i always encouter disconnetion where my signal is excellent. both of this are inside my room and just few feet apart. my AP was connected to a router and im also using 1 port of the linksys wired to my other pc. any problem with the set-up while my other pc frequently disconnected using the wireless connection? both pc are desktop.:rolleyes:

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by paapntalonko
Hi wirelessdan, i just started using Wifi and just bought 1 compex WLU11A and a AP Linksys BEF11S4. Unfortunately i'm having trouble using this set up. i always encouter disconnetion where my signal is excellent. both of this are inside my room and just few feet apart. my AP was connected to a router and im also using 1 port of the linksys wired to my other pc. any problem with the set-up while my other pc frequently disconnected using the wireless connection? both pc are desktop.:rolleyes:

kind of confused with your setup.

you mentioned BEFW11S4 as an AP but it is actually a router with bulit-in AP, then you said this BEFW11S4 AP is connected to another router.

you may want to elaborate on this, maybe your setup has some network conflict, since you are actually having 2 routers?

[pantalonko]

yes your right dann. me also confused if it is possible to connect two routers in series with each other?

[pantalonko]

:D wirelessdan managed to solve the problemafter placing the AP on another site. so far ok but seems that the set up is working fine, using two routers connected to each other but not sure wat other conflict will happen. :confused: anyway hope ur always there to support us newbies if problem arises.:laugh: :happy:

[QWERTYZX]

Which is the best broadband ISP when it comes to speed?

Of course Starhub will claim the highest theoretical speed with its cable modems. "We're the fastest!" :bounce:

But I've heard that cable is "shared", such that the more cable modem users there are in your area, the slower your connection. Sometimes, slower than a dial-up 56kbps connection.

That leaves the two ADSL guys: SingNet and Pacific Internet. Are they identical in speed? Or is there a big difference?

After picking a broadband ISP, I will connect my broadband modem to a ROUTER.

Then connect the ROUTER to a Wireless AP (will follow wirelessdan's latest recommended package).

Thanks guys! :)

[QWERTYZX]

Fuwell and Hardware Place have never heard of Senao, so I could not get hold of a Senao SL2511 (SR+ or CD+).

How do I get hold of a 23db SL2511?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
Fuwell and Hardware Place have never heard of Senao, so I could not get hold of a Senao SL2511 (SR+ or CD+).

How do I get hold of a 23db SL2511?

leave the SL2511CD+ alone.

the version sold in Singapore is not 23 dbm (200 mw), but 20 dbm (100 mw) due to IDA;s restriction.

have tested it against the Agere based cards like the Compex WL11A+ ($65) and the I-connect WPC11B ($49), it can't measure up to these cards.

[QWERTYZX]

Thanks WirelessDan!!

So, the Router/Wireless AP from Senao, the SL2511 (was it SR+ or CD+ ??) is no longer recommended.

If we want the longest range possible for less than S$250, then you are suggesting we should still buy the Compex SKW811 wireless kit?

This kit comes with one NP16A router and a pcmcia wireless access card, if I remember correctly.

WirelessDan, can we plug in an I-CONNECT WPC-11B pcmcia card into the NP16A router? What would that do to performance?

Also, I have two desktops, one will connect via ethernet to the router/Wireless AP. The other desktop has to be wireless, but I'm not too sure about the best option.

Should I get a wireless PCI or a wireless USB?
PCI is attractive because there are no cables to deal with (unlike USB). But what about signal strength/quality?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
Thanks WirelessDan!!

So, the Router/Wireless AP from Senao, the SL2511 (was it SR+ or CD+ ??) is no longer recommended.

If we want the longest range possible for less than S$250, then you are suggesting we should still buy the Compex SKW811 wireless kit?

This kit comes with one NP16A router and a pcmcia wireless access card, if I remember correctly.

WirelessDan, can we plug in an I-CONNECT WPC-11B pcmcia card into the NP16A router? What would that do to performance?

Also, I have two desktops, one will connect via ethernet to the router/Wireless AP. The other desktop has to be wireless, but I'm not too sure about the best option.

Should I get a wireless PCI or a wireless USB?
PCI is attractive because there are no cables to deal with (unlike USB). But what about signal strength/quality?

the Compex SKW811 kit comes with 1 NP16A 4-port router + 1 PCMCIA wireless adapter (these 2 combine to be a 4-port wireless router) + 1 USB wireless client adapter for a remote desktop PC. all for the price of $239.

you can use the I-connect card as the radio instead of the included Compex card but there is not much difference in performance.

for desktop the best solution is USB wireless adapter, PCI adapter's range performance is much poorer as the card is placed inside and behind the CPU casing, and it is also more expensive. USB type with extention cable give you the freedom to position it at higher level for less obstructive and hence more robust wireless link.

the Compex 4port wireelss router (effective price about $174 after discounting the price of the $65 USB client from the $239 package) has good performance better than most wireless routers on the market. you can also add $49 for a WA-HGA-5+ 5 dbi gain range extender antenna, which will increase the range coverage by as much as 60 to 80%. at a total cost of $223, this combination beats even the Cisco Aironet 350 series AP which is priced at almost $1000.

[aptget]

I've been reading around and it seems no one has tried setting up a wireless router etc to work with an Alcatel 1000 modem.

dan, do you have any experience in this ? the Alcatel 1000 modem has been with me for YEARS and its in perfect working condition, working with my SingNet 512K but it connects to the net by PPTP.

From azacamis :
"Using these modem as PPTP, do not requires any third party software to dial. What you need is to install VPN adapter or dialer which is in-built in Windows operating systems. If you plan to connect the modem to ethernet gateway routers, then make sure the routers can support PPTP WAN connection"

as indicated above, what sort of wireless routers can support PPTP WAN connections ??

[QWERTYZX]

Actually, I wanted to ask:

1. What is the best wireless AP in terms of range, regardless of price?

2. What is the best wireless AP in terms of value-for-money?

Also, thanks WirelessDan, your posts have been very educational, especially the ones on "dB" and something on "Pooled Power".

Because I've always thought that the wireless connection is simply the weaker of the two (either the AP or the PCMCIA card)...never thought there was some "pooling" calculation to be made.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aptget
I've been reading around and it seems no one has tried setting up a wireless router etc to work with an Alcatel 1000 modem.

dan, do you have any experience in this ? the Alcatel 1000 modem has been with me for YEARS and its in perfect working condition, working with my SingNet 512K but it connects to the net by PPTP.

From azacamis :
"Using these modem as PPTP, do not requires any third party software to dial. What you need is to install VPN adapter or dialer which is in-built in Windows operating systems. If you plan to connect the modem to ethernet gateway routers, then make sure the routers can support PPTP WAN connection"

as indicated above, what sort of wireless routers can support PPTP WAN connections ??

used to play with the Alcatel1000 in the early days of Singtel Magix. but most of them could not support local ADSL VPI/VCI setting of 0/100 (Azacamis has great info on this).

the Compex NP16A router supports PPTP, check it out.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
Actually, I wanted to ask:

1. What is the best wireless AP in terms of range, regardless of price?

2. What is the best wireless AP in terms of value-for-money?

Also, thanks WirelessDan, your posts have been very educational, especially the ones on "dB" and something on "Pooled Power".

Because I've always thought that the wireless connection is simply the weaker of the two (either the AP or the PCMCIA card)...never thought there was some "pooling" calculation to be made.


not sure if yo are referring to standalone AP or wireless router.

let's start with the APs:

in term of best range coverage regardless of cost, Cisco Aironet 350 series AP is the most robust and with the best range coverage, followed closely by the Intel Pro 2011 series and the Orinoco AP-1000 with Orinoco range extender antenna. but my latest testing on the Compex WP11+ with the WA-HGA-5+ range extender antenna against the Cisco 350 showed that the Compex system infact has a slight edge.

therefore the best value for money now in my opinion is the Comex WP11A+ system, going for below $200.

[aptget]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


used to play with the Alcatel1000 in the early days of Singtel Magix. but most of them could not support local ADSL VPI/VCI setting of 0/100 (Azacamis has great info on this).

the Compex NP16A router supports PPTP, check it out.

Most Alcatel 1000 couldn't support 0/100 settings, only a handful of it could.

Thanks for the info on Compex NP16A router. I hope it will work ! Don't want to spend that sort of money and end up having to sell it off at a lost.

[aptget]

I took a look at compex.com.sg and found the following which is confusing to me :

Compex NP-16A - Wireless Ready 4-Port Broadband internet gateway
http://www.compex.com.sg./prodimages/NP16Abig.jpg

and if I go into Wireless Products, it shows the SKW811 Wireless gateway KIT. Same as the above with other added accessory ? If I scroll down lower, it shows other WP11A+ WL11A+ WLU11A+

http://www.compex.com.sg./products.asp?c=Wireless+Products


Whats included in the Compex NP16A ? Not much info on this in their official website. The SKW811 same as NP16A ?

[QWERTYZX]

There ARE phones that work on 2.4GHz.

They are sold mainly in the USA, and they have excellent range. Some models I tried worked all the way out to the parking lot of the shopping mall.

Even if the IDA does not approve them for sale in Singapore, that does not mean they will not work if you brought one of these 2.4GHz cordless landline phones to Singapore.

[QWERTYZX]

WirelessDan, thanks for the update.

Okay, I'm going to visit stores and see who has the best price for a Compex SKW811 kit (includes the WP11A+ wireless AP/Router and the WL11A+ pcmcia wireless LAN card).

But, can you tell me which stores are the best places to visit first, for the Compex SKW811 kit?

Secondly, which stores are the best places to visit first if I want to buy a WA-HGA-5+ "range extender" antenna?

Lastly, will two WA-HGA-5+ antennas offer an improvement compared to just one antenna.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
WirelessDan, thanks for the update.

Okay, I'm going to visit stores and see who has the best price for a Compex SKW811 kit (includes the WP11A+ wireless AP/Router and the WL11A+ pcmcia wireless LAN card).

But, can you tell me which stores are the best places to visit first, for the Compex SKW811 kit?

Secondly, which stores are the best places to visit first if I want to buy a WA-HGA-5+ "range extender" antenna?

Lastly, will two WA-HGA-5+ antennas offer an improvement compared to just one antenna.

The Hardware Place, #04-20 SLS, for the SKW811 kit at $239. next will be Carrefour but it sells only the kit bundled with 1 more client adapter at $299, ie. good for those who need to have 2 wireless PC/notebooks.

you can only fix 1 antenna to the router/AP, but in 1 of my experiments, i used 2 NP16A wireless routers for remote LAN to LAN bridging, with 1 WA-HGA-5+ at each end, i was able to achieve a line-of-sight range of 800 m.

The hardware Place is selling the WA-HGA-5+ for $49, very good price.

don't think you can get the Compex WP11A+ AP in any store, even if tehre is it is probably more expensive than the NP16A based wireless router ($170+ after discounting the wireless client adapter in the kit).

the WP11A+ has all the capability of an Orinoco gateway eg. the RG1100, they are using the same Agere based card as radio, can work as standalone AP bridge, wireless gateway, as well as AP client (for remote LAN to LAN bridging). the WP11A+ is one up on the RG1100 that it is easier to connect to an external antenna, you will need to open up the RG1100/RG1000 and do some retrofitting in order to do so.

have just received 3 WP11A+ and some WA-HGA-5+ from an associate, wanting me to do some experiment for them.

[aptget]

I'm getting more and more confused now ....

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by aptget
I took a look at compex.com.sg and found the following which is confusing to me :

Compex NP-16A - Wireless Ready 4-Port Broadband internet gateway
http://www.compex.com.sg./prodimages/NP16Abig.jpg

and if I go into Wireless Products, it shows the SKW811 Wireless gateway KIT. Same as the above with other added accessory ? If I scroll down lower, it shows other WP11A+ WL11A+ WLU11A+

http://www.compex.com.sg./products.asp?c=Wireless+Products


Whats included in the Compex NP16A ? Not much info on this in their official website. The SKW811 same as NP16A ?


NP16A is a 4-port wired router with wireless option, by inserting a Compex WL11A+ PCMCIA wireless card it will become a wireless router with 4 ports.

WP11A+ is a wireless access point but without wired LAN port, ie. it can be used as a full wireless router, serving only wireless client.

Compex does not sell the NP16A alone here, but instead selling the SKW811 wireless gateway kit, which consists of :

NP16A wired router, WL11A+ wireless card (these 2 combine to be 4-port wireless router)

USB wireless adapter - for a wireless client PC.

clear enough?

[aptget]

You've just made in much clearer to a newbie.
thank you dan for your effort... thank you !

[QWERTYZX]

APTGET,

You planning to get a compex wireless kit?

I need a USB wireless adapter for one of my desktop PCs anyway, so the SKW811 is perfect for me.

If you don't need a USB wireless adapter, then the SKW811 might be problematic for you.

By the way, who is that girl in your tiny icon (under your nickname)? I'm very curious!

[hocks]

I have a Centrino laptop and the integrated wireless card performance is very bad.
I'm using a fulbond XI 2300H router and i could not receive any signal from my room (10-12m from the router and going through 3 walls)
However, when I used a D-Link PCMCIA card, I had a signal strength of 80% with a throughput of 5.5Mbps.
Is the integrated Intel card performance so bad?

[QWERTYZX]

I finally bought the SKW811 wireless kit and an I-Connect WPC-11B pcmcia WLAN adapter.

After plugging the Compex NetPassage 16A (“NP16A”) to my desktop using Ethernet, I discovered a big problem! :danger: My browser does not open the web-based management interface.

Luckily, Compex has an FAQ dealing with this at:
http://www.compex.com.sg./documents.asp?d=FAQ

It says users should remove the http proxy setting (either disable or delete). :cool:

Ahh… very logical. I will go try that today.

So, for newbies – here’s a tip when trying to use any web-based management interface, remember to look at your http proxy settings! :shocked:

But, do you guys have any tips for a newbie like me who has never set up a LAN (much less a WLAN)?
I’m reading every page of the 113 page Compex NP16A User’s Manual, but any advice would be soooo welcome.

My objective is to transfer files (to and from) one laptop and two desktops.
I’m comfortable with Windows98.

But I’m skeptical about how easy it all seems for all the computers to recognize each other.
It feels like I’m missing some big memory-hogging LAN software (e.g. Novell NetWare).

Can it be as simple as plugging in the NP16A and then configuring it using the web-based management interface? Don’t I need some LAN software too? :confused:

My USB adapters and PCMCIA adapters can all see the NP16A, and the “Test Link” feature of the PCMCIA adapter is very cool. Unfortunately, none of the adapters allow me to transfer files, I cannot see any of the drives on the other computers. :confused:

As a newbie, I have this nightmare that the LAN will not work, and I will be stuck with all this non-functioning expensive equipment.

Thanks for any beginner’s advice/tips guys!

[QWERTYZX]

Have to clarify.

The WLAN adapters are detecting the NP16A access point. But aside from playing with "Link Test" or watching the the signal or noise change, I can't do anything.

All I see are local drives, there are no network drives on my Windows Explorer.

I'm hoping all of this is the NP16A's fault.

And that as soon as my browser can show me the web-based management interface, I will somehow be able to transfer files to and from my laptop and two desktops.

Feeling quite sad... didn't think it would be this difficult to set up a LAN... :(

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by hocks
I have a Centrino laptop and the integrated wireless card performance is very bad.
I'm using a fulbond XI 2300H router and i could not receive any signal from my room (10-12m from the router and going through 3 walls)
However, when I used a D-Link PCMCIA card, I had a signal strength of 80% with a throughput of 5.5Mbps.
Is the integrated Intel card performance so bad?

some laptops using built-in wireless card are poorly designed in term of the card and antenna postioning, some do not even have an antenna.

good design are those with twin antennas placed along the sides of the LCD panel, which usually have very good performance even better than those using PCMCIA cards.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
Have to clarify.

The WLAN adapters are detecting the NP16A access point. But aside from playing with "Link Test" or watching the the signal or noise change, I can't do anything.

All I see are local drives, there are no network drives on my Windows Explorer.

I'm hoping all of this is the NP16A's fault.

And that as soon as my browser can show me the web-based management interface, I will somehow be able to transfer files to and from my laptop and two desktops.

Feeling quite sad... didn't think it would be this difficult to set up a LAN... :(


firstly you must configure your client adapters' TCP/IP properties to make sure that it is getting an IP assigned by the router.

if you are using WinXP, click "start", then "connect to" then "show all connections".

look for the wireless connection icon, right click and select "properties".

firstly tick "show icon on notify area when connected", so that you can access this icon easily from now on, by just clicking on the icon atthe task bar at bottom right of screen.

then lat the properties window, look for the TCP/IP properties, make sure you set it to "obtain an IP address automatically".

now click on the wireless connection icon again, and click the "supports" tab, you should see the address type : assigned by DHCP; IP address : 192.168.168.10X.

only after your client adapter (wired or wireless) has obtained the IP address from the router, then it is possible for you to open the router's management page to setup the router.

email me at wirelessdan2002@yahoo.com.sg to feedback to me all the setting you are reading now.

it is really not that difficult, but judging from what you have been describing, you have almost close to zero experience in networking, so that this as an opprtunity for you to start with some, don't feel upset, everyone goes through this, trust me.

[hocks]

Making a choice of the Compex WLU11A USB adapter or the I-Connect WPC-11U USB adapter for my PCs.
Is the Compex WLU11A USB 1.1 compatible?

Also making a choice between Compex WL11A+ PCMCIA card or the I-Connect WPC 11B for my notebook.

The wireless router used is the one offered by Starhub Maxonline 3000..
Any compatibility issues?

How bout the performance of the USB adapter and PCMCIA cards for both brands? Which is better and more value for money?

[angscang]

WirelessDan,

hv u tried or use b/4 BinTec products like the XAir PCMCIA?
know the cost or performance of these cards?
Thanks!

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by angscang
WirelessDan,

hv u tried or use b/4 BinTec products like the XAir PCMCIA?
know the cost or performance of these cards?
Thanks!

it is an identical clone of the Orinoco Gold, just like the Compex WL11A+, used to be sold for $100+ just like the Orinoco Gold.

it has identical performance as the Orinoco and its clones eg. Compex WL11A+, IBM High Rate Wireless, Compaq WL110 etc.

and the Compex WL11A+ is only $49 now.

so the BinTec is only worth buuying if sold brand new for less than $50, if not the Compex WL11A+ is the best bet.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by hocks
Making a choice of the Compex WLU11A USB adapter or the I-Connect WPC-11U USB adapter for my PCs.
Is the Compex WLU11A USB 1.1 compatible?

Also making a choice between Compex WL11A+ PCMCIA card or the I-Connect WPC 11B for my notebook.

The wireless router used is the one offered by Starhub Maxonline 3000..
Any compatibility issues?

How bout the performance of the USB adapter and PCMCIA cards for both brands? Which is better and more value for money?

both The compex WLU11A and the I-connect WPC11U are using same Atmel chipset, sold at the same price of $59, and their performance are more or less the same, both better than the Linksys WUSB11 which is sold for double the price at $110+.

on PCMCIA wireless card, both the Compex WL11A+ and the I-connect WPC11B are sold for $49, performance are equally great following the evergreen Orinoco cards.

i favour the I-connect WPC11B cause of the extremely short antenna housing.

[QWERTYZX]

Okay, tips for newbies:

First of all, remember to disable proxy in the browser - there should not be any proxies being used.

Second of all, use "uConfig" app to launch the web-based mgmt software.

Third, be careful how you exit "uConfig" and the web-based mgmt software (do not click on the "X" button on the upper right of the window).

Fourth, click on "Network Neighborhood" to search for other computers on the network, and to set your identity (e.g. workgroup name).

Finally, check websites like:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/home-network.htm

[QWERTYZX]

WirelessDan, thanks for your help and advice! Yes, I have zero experience, but I have tons of enthusiasm and I'm willing to read as much as required, no matter how difficult the reading material.

I'm using Windows98 on the desktop PC connected to my Wireless AP. And after transferring files to and from this desktop PC and a laptop, I noticed a lack of security.

A lot of people have access to my desktop, and Windows98 does not give me any way of preventing them from going in.

I already set users/passwords, but if someone clicks on "CANCEL", they can get full access to my local drives.

Should I upgrade my desktop from Windows98 to Windows2000, with the objective of denying people access to my local drives?

I also want folder-level access/passwords. Right now, I've got a peer-to-peer Wireless LAN, should I be aiming for a server-client wireless LAN? Lots of friends/family members using the wireless LAN, and one day, someone will try to fiddle with the wireless AP by gaining access to the desktop that controls it.

I'm trying to be proactive and pre-empt this situation now, rather than wait for it to happen.

[QWERTYZX]

If you're using FAT or FAT32,
you depend on share permissions for security.
Share permissions only protect files remotely
(across networks), they offer no local protection.
A person could simply sit at the local PC
and gain full access to these files.

NTFS has its own built-in security system.
You can grant various permissions
to directories and to individual files.

These permissions protect files and directories
locally and remotely.

If someone were to try to access the
restricted files, NTFS would protect those files.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
WirelessDan, thanks for your help and advice! Yes, I have zero experience, but I have tons of enthusiasm and I'm willing to read as much as required, no matter how difficult the reading material.

I'm using Windows98 on the desktop PC connected to my Wireless AP. And after transferring files to and from this desktop PC and a laptop, I noticed a lack of security.

A lot of people have access to my desktop, and Windows98 does not give me any way of preventing them from going in.

I already set users/passwords, but if someone clicks on "CANCEL", they can get full access to my local drives.

Should I upgrade my desktop from Windows98 to Windows2000, with the objective of denying people access to my local drives?

I also want folder-level access/passwords. Right now, I've got a peer-to-peer Wireless LAN, should I be aiming for a server-client wireless LAN? Lots of friends/family members using the wireless LAN, and one day, someone will try to fiddle with the wireless AP by gaining access to the desktop that controls it.

I'm trying to be proactive and pre-empt this situation now, rather than wait for it to happen.

great attitude, keep it up.

honestly, i am tired of reading up online manuals (of systems i don't even possess or use before) to help forumers here who do not believe in reading up to solve their porblems

[galatica]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


great attitude, keep it up.

honestly, i am tired of reading up online manuals (of systems i don't even possess or use before) to help forumers here who do not believe in reading up to solve their porblems

This is very true. However, there are those newbies who really do not know where to start from, and don't even know the existance of manuals or online help. So sometimes, we should try our best to direct them as to the best we could. :D

[seowbin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


leave the SL2511CD+ alone.

the version sold in Singapore is not 23 dbm (200 mw), but 20 dbm (100 mw) due to IDA;s restriction.

have tested it against the Agere based cards like the Compex WL11A+ ($65) and the I-connect WPC11B ($49), it can't measure up to these cards. eh...

for Senao SL2511SR plus 4-port wireless router - at $250, it is the highest output wireless router with 23 dbm (200 mw) output available locally, means 805 longer range than the Linksys BEFW11S4, good for multi-storey home.

Senao SL2511Cd plus PCMCIA adapter - $145, with 23 dbm (200 mw ) output, highest output of any PCMCIA WiFi adapter, 125% longer range than the Linksys WPC11, but guess it will reduce notebook battery life by quite a bit, still, worth a try to be how far it can go.

this 2 AP & card mention in ur FAQ, is there any method to buy them? Quite interested int he PCMCIA adapter .. with 200mw output :blushed:


Like that it can go higher range...

I just walk around my neighbour, my lappy bulit-in WLAN card really cannot make it.. happy happy then decide 1AP then i come home, outside my house stand like 10sec then it able to find my AP sia... :mad:

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by seowbin
eh...

for Senao SL2511SR plus 4-port wireless router - at $250, it is the highest output wireless router with 23 dbm (200 mw) output available locally, means 805 longer range than the Linksys BEFW11S4, good for multi-storey home.

Senao SL2511Cd plus PCMCIA adapter - $145, with 23 dbm (200 mw ) output, highest output of any PCMCIA WiFi adapter, 125% longer range than the Linksys WPC11, but guess it will reduce notebook battery life by quite a bit, still, worth a try to be how far it can go.

this 2 AP & card mention in ur FAQ, is there any method to buy them? Quite interested int he PCMCIA adapter .. with 200mw output :blushed:


Like that it can go higher range...

I just walk around my neighbour, my lappy bulit-in WLAN card really cannot make it.. happy happy then decide 1AP then i come home, outside my house stand like 10sec then it able to find my AP sia... :mad:

firstly this post you refering to is outdated.

the actual Senao router and card sold here are only with 100 mw due to IDA's restriction.

the 100 mw version's performance is really lousy, can't even beat the $49 Compex WL11A+ or the I-connect WPC11B, so leave them alone.

certain models of the Centrino based notebooks built-in wireless cards are very poorly integrated, resulting in really disastrous performance.

try the i-connect card or the Compex card, chances that you will have much better link.

[seowbin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


firstly this post you refering to is outdated.

the actual Senao router and card sold here are only with 100 mw due to IDA's restriction.

the 100 mw version's performance is really lousy, can't even beat the $49 Compex WL11A+ or the I-connect WPC11B, so leave them alone.

certain models of the Centrino based notebooks built-in wireless cards are very poorly integrated, resulting in really disastrous performance.

try the i-connect card or the Compex card, chances that you will have much better link. i mean .. if i get my friend to buy from web oversea.. can .. "import" into SG right?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by seowbin
i mean .. if i get my friend to buy from web oversea.. can .. "import" into SG right?

i actually got hold of 1 export card which has 200 mw output.

but how good a card perform is not just the power output, also the antenna design (in this aspect noone beats Agere based cards like the Orinoco and its clones.)

also the wireless link is 2 ways, ie. receiver sensitivity if the card is as important, and the Senao card's sensitivity is not that impressive at all.

even the 200 mw card did not perform as well as the Cisco Aironet 352 card with 100 mw output. it is only about the same performance as the Orinoco card.

[seowbin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


i actually got hold of 1 export card which has 200 mw output.

but how good a card perform is not just the power output, also the antenna design (in this aspect noone beats Agere based cards like the Orinoco and its clones.)

also the wireless link is 2 ways, ie. receiver sensitivity if the card is as important, and the Senao card's sensitivity is not that impressive at all.

even the 200 mw card did not perform as well as the Cisco Aironet 352 card with 100 mw output. it is only about the same performance as the Orinoco card. eh.. so it's not worth bring in that card? Even it is at 200mW ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by seowbin
eh.. so it's not worth bring in that card? Even it is at 200mW ?

yes, but if you insist, go ahead.

[seowbin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


yes, but if you insist, go ahead. :laugh: .. then forget it.. i dun want to bother my friend...

I will go for set which add up $90+ kind..hehe... can go "war-walking" around my neighbourhood.. :blushed:

[seowbin]

eh.. where can i find $45 Compex WA-HGA-5+ 5 dbi range extender antenna ? :blushed:

i think i saw one HGA 5dbi antenna at mediapro.. but it is at $70 !!

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by seowbin
eh.. where can i find $45 Compex WA-HGA-5+ 5 dbi range extender antenna ? :blushed:

i think i saw one HGA 5dbi antenna at mediapro.. but it is at $70 !!

yes it is the same antenna.

Mediapro is selling it for $70, but The Hardware Place is selling it for $49 (oh ok on the price list they state it as Compex antenna).

canopus88 mentioned that they can actually lower it to $45.

and for those of you interested, i have 3 pieces left over from my recent overseas project, can let you have it for $40 a piece.

[QWERTYZX]

I'm having trouble getting a broadband internet connection via the wireless access point.


The Compex Access Point
works fine on its own,
and transfers files
without any hassle.

The Alcatel ADSL modem
works fine on its own,
and connects to the internet
without any hassle.

But, when I connect the Alcatel ADSL modem via RJ-45 cable to the Compex Access Point, and try to get both of them to work together, I can no longer connect to the internet.

Am I supposed to use a crossover cable instead of a regular RJ-45 cable?

Reading the manual for the Compex Access Point and the Alcatel ADSL modem didn't help solve the problem.

Should I uninstall the WinPOET broadband dialer software, and then reinstall it?

Even more helpful would be any advice on what are the most COMMON mistakes made by newbies/beginners.

Can anyone help?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by QWERTYZX
I'm having trouble getting a broadband internet connection via the wireless access point.


The Compex Access Point
works fine on its own,
and transfers files
without any hassle.

The Alcatel ADSL modem
works fine on its own,
and connects to the internet
without any hassle.

But, when I connect the Alcatel ADSL modem via RJ-45 cable to the Compex Access Point, and try to get both of them to work together, I can no longer connect to the internet.

Am I supposed to use a crossover cable instead of a regular RJ-45 cable?

Reading the manual for the Compex Access Point and the Alcatel ADSL modem didn't help solve the problem.

Should I uninstall the WinPOET broadband dialer software, and then reinstall it?

Even more helpful would be any advice on what are the most COMMON mistakes made by newbies/beginners.

Can anyone help?

probably your Alcatel modem is curretnly in half bridge mode, ie. its built-in dialer is active that you have to set user name and password for the modem to dial up.

if it is so, you need to find a way to disable this built-in dialer, and set the modem to full bridge mode, ie. it just convert the ADSL signal into ethernet signal for the router.

if you manage to do so, then select the WAN mode of the Compex to PPPoE, and enter the user name and password and save it inside the router.

you have to be very clear that there is only 1 dialwer in your network, it should be in the router, not in the modem, nor the PC.

[QWERTYZX]

Thanks wirelessdan!!

Wish the user's manual would have emphasized that point. The manual for the Alcatel SpeedTouchPro ADSL is 284 pages.

At first I thought I needed a crossover cable to connect the ADSL modem to the Compex Wireless AP.

Okay, I'm going to try reconfiguring the ADSL modem into "Full-Bridge" mode.

By the way, Compex's user manual was very clear, so I already selected the WAN mode of the Compex Wireless AP and set it to PPPoE. Also entered the username and password and saved it inside the router (saved and rebooted).

Hope to have good news for you very soon.

[w0rksh0p]

I intend to get one 3Com® OfficeConnect® 11 Mbps Wireless Access Point Product # 3CRWE41196.

Is this good ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by w0rksh0p
I intend to get one 3Com® OfficeConnect® 11 Mbps Wireless Access Point Product # 3CRWE41196.

Is this good ?

it is rather dated in design, other than the brand name it is actually nothing spectacular, more expensive than the Compex NP!6A wireless router ($160) but not with the enterprise class performance and features of the Compex NP16A.

[w0rksh0p]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


it is rather dated in design, other than the brand name it is actually nothing spectacular, more expensive than the Compex NP!6A wireless router ($160) but not with the enterprise class performance and features of the Compex NP16A.


thank you

[bomberman]

me trying to set up a wireless LAN to share my internet SCV connection in a HDB 4rm flat. Need to share between 1 WinXP PC n a win98SE PC.

Lots of opinions on the diff routers n me getting confused. Can advise on which one to get? Is there any adaptor to change a wired router to get wireless capability? Thanx

[QWERTYZX]

THANKS!!
Your suggestion worked!! It worked!!

All it took was the uninstallation of WinPOET (the dialer software loaded into my desktop PC).

Once that was done, the Compex NP16 Wireless AP took over all the dialling tasks, and assumed comlete control over the Alcatel SpeedTouch Pro ADSL modem.

YESSSSS!! :)

But, no happy ending yet.

After upgrading all computers connected to the Wireless LAN to Windows 2000, file sharing no longer works, even though I've enabled "Client for Windows" and "File and Printer Sharing for Windows".

Also, went to the folder's properties and enabled "Sharing".

Finally, selected "everyone" under security and permissions.

Hmm...all computer's network identification was also set to the same Workgroup...

What's wrong?

[hp_dingdong]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


some laptops using built-in wireless card are poorly designed in term of the card and antenna postioning, some do not even have an antenna.

good design are those with twin antennas placed along the sides of the LCD panel, which usually have very good performance even better than those using PCMCIA cards.

Hi dan,

I got this Acer 800 series Centrino laptop running on WIn XP Professional and own the Compex NP16A . The signal is excellent however whenever I go to a website, it'very slow and take quite a while to complete the page.

Worst thing is, the connection will drop from time to time and I need to scan for network again. Any idea why this is so?

[hiimen]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


...

you have to be very clear that there is only 1 dialwer in your network, it should be in the router, not in the modem, nor the PC.

Hi,
I have problem using the NP16A to connect to a 56K connection. The 56K connection is the sole internet access I have and I'm using a 3Com U.S. Robotics 56K Faxmodem connected to the NP16A with a RS232. Therefore the NP16A is set to have Direct Modem and with Modem Init String=at&f1, I can connect to the internet.

However I've noticed that the webpage loading is very slow and is worse when the internet is shared. I'm assuming that the connection speed is way below the 56K connection. Is there a way of verifying the connection speed? How can I improve the connection? Normal connection is fine when the NP16A is not doing the dialing.

Second problem is the modem redialing at random periods. It's very hard to verify the internet connection status since the connection is made by the NP16A. I'm assuming that it is possible that connection had been lost and so the NP16A makes the modem redials. Another possibility is that SOMETIMES when a pc joins the network, the modem redials. I cannot confirm any of this since there's absolutely no indications that suggest these are the reasons for the redialing.

Finally, is there a way of setting the NP16A so that internet connections are made only when a user clicks on "Connect" in the Modem Backup configuration? I don't want the NP16A to redials every 5hrs when my internet disconnects.

There is really a lack of documentation in the manual for 56K connection. I've been working on these for 2 weeks now and I'll be very grateful for everyone who helps in overcoming these problems. Thank you all.

[edwynn]

Hi,

I am new here and would like to get some feedback on selecting wireless products.

I am currently on Pacnet Broadband and am using an Aztech External USB modem. I understand I have to use an ethernet modem, so I will be getting the )Aztech DSL Turbo 900E (which is recommended on Pacnet's site. Are there better modems out there?)

In addition, I was thinking of getting the SMC Wireless Cable/ADSL Router (Max. 11Mpbs) w/4-port print server I think this is the Barricade 7004AWBR.

I intend to connect to the internet using the SMC and directly connect it to my PC by cable. I would also connect my laptop wirelessly to it, and I already have a Cisco Systems Airnot 350 series (Air-PCM352) PC card for my laptop. I was wondering if that would be compaitable with the SMC wireless router.

Thank you.

Edwynn

[scasi]

hi
I had came across certain brand in Sim lim like the under dog brand. Buffalo and Planex, has been curious to know how the Japanese technologies perform and would really consider buy 1 of them since Japan till date has the highest technology. I had surf their site and found nothing due to the japanese language only, any body had try them before? I'm really considering Planex the prices is really a steal for a Japanese product.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by edwynn
Hi,

I am new here and would like to get some feedback on selecting wireless products.

I am currently on Pacnet Broadband and am using an Aztech External USB modem. I understand I have to use an ethernet modem, so I will be getting the )Aztech DSL Turbo 900E (which is recommended on Pacnet's site. Are there better modems out there?)

In addition, I was thinking of getting the SMC Wireless Cable/ADSL Router (Max. 11Mpbs) w/4-port print server I think this is the Barricade 7004AWBR.

I intend to connect to the internet using the SMC and directly connect it to my PC by cable. I would also connect my laptop wirelessly to it, and I already have a Cisco Systems Airnot 350 series (Air-PCM352) PC card for my laptop. I was wondering if that would be compaitable with the SMC wireless router.

Thank you.

Edwynn

no problem with compatibility between Cisco Aironet and SMC system.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by scasi
hi
I had came across certain brand in Sim lim like the under dog brand. Buffalo and Planex, has been curious to know how the Japanese technologies perform and would really consider buy 1 of them since Japan till date has the highest technology. I had surf their site and found nothing due to the japanese language only, any body had try them before? I'm really considering Planex the prices is really a steal for a Japanese product.

Planex maybe a Japanese brand, but it is still a Taiwanese design and made, its WiFi products are not impressive at all and i do not consider them Japanese Tech at all (more appropriately Taiwanese Tech), and really not value for money.

, and i therefore consider them as US Tech. however they are rather pricey.

better value for money is still our local brand Compex, which also using Agere chipset based design, but priced much cheaper than the Orinoco/Avaya and Buffalo systems.

[lifegauge]

Hi,

I'm hoping someone could help me with setting up my wireless router, I bought it yesterday and the uncle told me that it's damn easy, but apparently I can't get it to work!

Brand: D-Link DI-714P+ Wireless Broadband Router
ISP: SCV Maxonline

Problem:
1) I connect my modem to the router
2) I connect my router to my laptop
3) I go to http://192.168.0.1 and went through the web-based wizard
4) After completing the wizard, I waited for the router to restart before trying to connect to the internet, but couldn't get a connection!

The orange LED on the router shows that it's receiving an internet connection, but the problem is although I'm connecting my laptop to the router via an ethernet cable (connection is visible), I can't connect to the internet. I have set the connection settings on my laptop to Get DHCP Address ... so right now I have no idea what to do.

I also tried setting an SSID in the Router Setup Wizard, and removed the ethernet cable from my laptop to try and see if I could connect to the SSID I set on my Router, but I can't connect to it either.

Could someone tell me if I was missing a step or two, that's preventing me from:
1) Connecting to the internet via ethernet cable
2) Connecting to the router via wi-fi

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by lifegauge
Hi,

I'm hoping someone could help me with setting up my wireless router, I bought it yesterday and the uncle told me that it's damn easy, but apparently I can't get it to work!

Brand: D-Link DI-714P+ Wireless Broadband Router
ISP: SCV Maxonline

Problem:
1) I connect my modem to the router
2) I connect my router to my laptop
3) I go to http://192.168.0.1 and went through the web-based wizard
4) After completing the wizard, I waited for the router to restart before trying to connect to the internet, but couldn't get a connection!

The orange LED on the router shows that it's receiving an internet connection, but the problem is although I'm connecting my laptop to the router via an ethernet cable (connection is visible), I can't connect to the internet. I have set the connection settings on my laptop to Get DHCP Address ... so right now I have no idea what to do.

I also tried setting an SSID in the Router Setup Wizard, and removed the ethernet cable from my laptop to try and see if I could connect to the SSID I set on my Router, but I can't connect to it either.

Could someone tell me if I was missing a step or two, that's preventing me from:
1) Connecting to the internet via ethernet cable
2) Connecting to the router via wi-fi

let's try to solve 1 at a time.

when connecting the cable modem to the router for the first time, you must restart the cable modem in order for SCV server to assign a new public IP address to the router, if this is not done the SCV server's IP address lease is still the old one which was meant for the NIC you used to connect before using the router.

[lifegauge]

Ok, I can now connect to the internet via ethernet cable.

But I am still unable to conenct to the Wi-Fi via my notebook although I've set both the SSIDs to be the same.

I also do not knw where should I set the 'password' for joining this base station...

[lifegauge]

Wooah, seems I managed to figure out the problem.

I just changed the channel from channel 6 to channel 11 and managed to get a connection!

I did so after reading the following:
In the 802.11b (2.4Ghz) standard there are 11 channels (US) to choose from, all but three of those channels are overlapping channels. Channels 1, 6, and 11 are the only non-overlapping channels. The channels can be changed to avoid interference from other wireless devices that run on the 2.4 Ghz frequency range (I.E. 2.4Ghz cordless phones and X-10).

Note: All D-Link 802.11b Wireless devices default to channel 6.

[lifegauge]

Ah man, got another problem now.

I tried connecting to another cable modem, to another computer, with the same laptop (wi-fi).

I can connect to the internet on the laptop, but now the computer (ethernet cable) cannot connect, it can't even connect to the router to configure it (192.168.0.1).

[joycul]

Hi

I am currently using the followings:

Aztech 305E Ethernet modem
Compex WP11A+
Cisco Aironet PCM352 PCIMIA card

I set my modem to bridging mode and config my AP to Gateway mode to dialup because i am currently using Singnet 512k. The problem comes when I am trying to connect on to CS. I even put my IP in DMZ mode. Sending of files via ICQ or IRC prove no problem but connecting to certian web and CS cannot be done. Also the IP lease will renew every 1 hr. Anyway to solve that?


The 2nd problem is that i live in a 4 room HDB flat. Even if i use a WA-HGA-5+ Antenna to connect to my Compex WP11A+, when i bring my laptop to another room my wireless connection is dead. The distance is about 5-6 metres but with 2 wall in between. Anyway to extend the connection even further?

[donwee]

I need help to set up a wireless network to share the cable broadband internet connection.

To start with, should I buy a router or access point or a maybe combination product like Netgear FM114P

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FM114P.asp?view=

(5-in-1 Product: SPI Firewall, Router, Switch, Print server, and Wireless Access Point)

What I want to do is connect the 'hardware' directly to the cable modem without needing any server or computer connected directly to the 'hardware'. How can I do that? What pdt sd I buy, mate? Thanks a lot.

[mooncalf]

Hello Dan,

I've been following your first post since this morning and 3 hours later..i've gained much needed info but at the same time also got a little bit confused.

here's what i need.

I have Singnet 256k BB, unfortunately, its an Efficient 4060 ATM ADSL modem thats on USB. That means I can't use it at all isnt it?

I intend to set up a Router (Compex is the way to go from all i read) wired to my brothers PC in the Livingroom, i'll have to get a NEW ethernet modem? (Aztech 305e correct?) This ethernet modem must connect to the router and the router connects to the PC via LAN point or USB?

I'm setting up a new PC today for my own room. Wireless. That means going for the Compex WLU11A USB link.

Plus set up my dad's laptop with a PCMCIA wireless link. from what i read, that means getting an extra Compex WL11A PCMCIA card.

I stay in a 5 room HDB. With only 1 wall between the livingroom and my room so I think the Compex NP16A should serve just fine.

Then i'm connecting my scanner and my printer etc etc to the router. Will I then be able to use them all from my PC and from the Laptop?

I'm just wondering, since i have to get a new ethernet modem, is it better off to go for those 3 in 1's i see being advertised nowadays. 4 port router, plus modem, plus a pcmcia card as well. anything good to recommend and the pro's and con's if any?

[angscang]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002

the 100 mw version's performance is really lousy, can't even beat the $49 Compex WL11A+ or the I-connect WPC11B, so leave them alone.

try the i-connect card or the Compex card, chances that you will have much better link.
Hi Dan,

can the i-connect card(WPC11B) or the Compex card(WL11A+) work with Agere/Orinoco's firmware n drivers n client manager?
Have u tried installing the firmware/drivers over any of these cards?
Thanks! Cheers!

[mooncalf]

Hello All,

Can anybody help me out here?

I just set up the Compex SKW811 with an Aztech 305e ethernet modem.

Ran the uConfig porgram on the Compex CD and I can get all the IP addresses, etc etc.

Then I followed the instructions and went into WAN Setup. changed it to PPPoE, i'm on Singnet 256k Broadband. But I can't establish a connection! The IP Addresses etc etc are all 0.0.0.0 on the WAN Setup

Appreciate some advice please!!!

[joycul]

Originally posted by mooncalf
Hello All,

Can anybody help me out here?

I just set up the Compex SKW811 with an Aztech 305e ethernet modem.

Ran the uConfig porgram on the Compex CD and I can get all the IP addresses, etc etc.

Then I followed the instructions and went into WAN Setup. changed it to PPPoE, i'm on Singnet 256k Broadband. But I can't establish a connection! The IP Addresses etc etc are all 0.0.0.0 on the WAN Setup

Appreciate some advice please!!!

Did you set your Aztech 305E to transparent bridge mode?:o

If you have do that you should see whether you set the straight-thru wire to the Router instead of the crossover cable.

:bounce:

[mooncalf]

Hi Joycul, Thanks for your reply.

However, I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you please be more specific?

Please reply me on the following thread. Thanks!

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?forumid=4&threadid=533316

[angscang]

Hi Dan,

how do u update the firmware for the Compex card(WL11A+) to version v8.72 using Agere/Orinoco's firmware? the current version is running v7.82, but when i try to run the Agere/Orinoco's firmware utility program using v8.1 or v8.72, it fails.
Have u tried installing the firmware/drivers over any of these cards?
Thanks! Cheers!

[Murdoch]

Originally posted by joycul


Did you set your Aztech 305E to transparent bridge mode?:o

If you have do that you should see whether you set the straight-thru wire to the Router instead of the crossover cable.

:bounce:

:) Hi Wireless Dan, you are really a super as far as networking is concerned. Impressed with your postings and although I am a newbie, I can detect you really know your stuff!

Anyway, I stay in a terrace house and I am linked to the internet via Starhub cable 1500. My modem is a Samsung Cable Modem bought through Starhub. It is located in my bedroom beside my laptop.

My children have 3 sets of desktops downstairs in the living room. I like to set up a wireless network so that they may also surf the net at the same time with my modem.

Please advise what are the things I must look out for, the full range of equipment and gadget I will need, and recommend brands and models that are CHEAP, RELIABLE and GOOD.

To recap, at present, I have only:

1 Cable Modem linked to Starhub Maxonline 1500
1 Notebook (Pentium3, 128 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium 133, 32 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium2, 64 Ram)

Please advise. Thanks. ;)

[Murdoch]

Hi Wireless Dan

Sorry realised I used the wrong mode to communicate with you and you may not read the message, so reposting here. Basically although I am a newbie, I can detect you really know your stuff!

Anyway, I stay in a terrace house and I am linked to the internet via Starhub cable 1500. My modem is a Samsung Cable Modem bought through Starhub. It is located in my bedroom beside my laptop.

My children have 3 sets of desktops downstairs in the living room. I like to set up a wireless network so that they may also surf the net at the same time with my modem.

Please advise what are the things I must look out for, the full range of equipment and gadget I will need, and recommend brands and models that are CHEAP, RELIABLE and GOOD.

To recap, at present, I have only:

1 Cable Modem linked to Starhub Maxonline 1500
1 Notebook (Pentium3, 128 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium 133, 32 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium2, 64 Ram)

Please advise. Thanks. :) :)

[joycul]

Originally posted by Murdoch
Hi Wireless Dan

Sorry realised I used the wrong mode to communicate with you and you may not read the message, so reposting here. Basically although I am a newbie, I can detect you really know your stuff!

Anyway, I stay in a terrace house and I am linked to the internet via Starhub cable 1500. My modem is a Samsung Cable Modem bought through Starhub. It is located in my bedroom beside my laptop.

My children have 3 sets of desktops downstairs in the living room. I like to set up a wireless network so that they may also surf the net at the same time with my modem.

Please advise what are the things I must look out for, the full range of equipment and gadget I will need, and recommend brands and models that are CHEAP, RELIABLE and GOOD.

To recap, at present, I have only:

1 Cable Modem linked to Starhub Maxonline 1500
1 Notebook (Pentium3, 128 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium 133, 32 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium2, 64 Ram)

Please advise. Thanks. :) :)

Hi

Since you are using Starhub maxonline i suppose your modem is ethernet and not USB. So if that is the case maybe you can consider getting a Access Point like I-connect or Linksys which cost ranging from SG$190-SG$200++ depending on the functions.

If you are getting a wiresless Access Point, then you should be getting 1 PCIMIA Card and 2 either Wireless PCI adapter or USB wireless adapter. The USB wireless adapter will be more expensive though.

Total cost should be around SG$500++

Hope you don't mind me answering for you.:D

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by joycul
Hi

I am currently using the followings:

Aztech 305E Ethernet modem
Compex WP11A+
Cisco Aironet PCM352 PCIMIA card

I set my modem to bridging mode and config my AP to Gateway mode to dialup because i am currently using Singnet 512k. The problem comes when I am trying to connect on to CS. I even put my IP in DMZ mode. Sending of files via ICQ or IRC prove no problem but connecting to certian web and CS cannot be done. Also the IP lease will renew every 1 hr. Anyway to solve that?


The 2nd problem is that i live in a 4 room HDB flat. Even if i use a WA-HGA-5+ Antenna to connect to my Compex WP11A+, when i bring my laptop to another room my wireless connection is dead. The distance is about 5-6 metres but with 2 wall in between. Anyway to extend the connection even further?

really not too sure about this CS and the virtual server setting to go around it, as i am neither a gamer nor chatter, hope the other can help.

as for your 2nd problem, it really amazed me, from my experience with the WP11A+, even without the HGA-5 range extender its range performance easily surpasses many APs and wireless routers in the market. you may want to play with the positioning to make sure that it is clear of immediately obstacles, ie. metallic structures, electrical appliances eg. TV/monitor/HiFi/CPU and worst reinforced concrete structure. an ideal place is of course to place it on top of cabinet, monitor.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by mooncalf
Hello All,

Can anybody help me out here?

I just set up the Compex SKW811 with an Aztech 305e ethernet modem.

Ran the uConfig porgram on the Compex CD and I can get all the IP addresses, etc etc.

Then I followed the instructions and went into WAN Setup. changed it to PPPoE, i'm on Singnet 256k Broadband. But I can't establish a connection! The IP Addresses etc etc are all 0.0.0.0 on the WAN Setup

Appreciate some advice please!!!

joycul is right, the Aztech DSL305E default setting is 1/2 bridge mode ie. its internal PPPoE dialer is active. to connect it to the router you need to set it to full-bridge mode ie. deactivate the internal dialer.

you should be able to find the procedures to do so from the included setup guide.

yo can share printer through the home networking, just run through the Windows network setup wizard. i doubt you can share scanner though.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by angscang

Hi Dan,

can the i-connect card(WPC11B) or the Compex card(WL11A+) work with Agere/Orinoco's firmware n drivers n client manager?
Have u tried installing the firmware/drivers over any of these cards?
Thanks! Cheers!

i believe the Compex WL11A+'s firmware version number is not synchronised with the Orinoco's firmware, as the WL11 range actually evolved from Intersil Prism chipset (WL11, WL11E, WL11A) to Agere chipset (WL11A+, WL11B+), therefore V7.82 could be as updated as the Orinoco's V8.72.

infact Orinoco V8.72 was released in Dec 2002, and Compex actually adopted the Agere chipset only in early 2003.

the WL11A+ works perfectly with the V2.92 client manager, and even works with the latest V3.02 which was released for the new Agere short antenna cards (I-connect WPC11B, Compex WL11B+).

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Murdoch


:) Hi Wireless Dan, you are really a super as far as networking is concerned. Impressed with your postings and although I am a newbie, I can detect you really know your stuff!

Anyway, I stay in a terrace house and I am linked to the internet via Starhub cable 1500. My modem is a Samsung Cable Modem bought through Starhub. It is located in my bedroom beside my laptop.

My children have 3 sets of desktops downstairs in the living room. I like to set up a wireless network so that they may also surf the net at the same time with my modem.

Please advise what are the things I must look out for, the full range of equipment and gadget I will need, and recommend brands and models that are CHEAP, RELIABLE and GOOD.

To recap, at present, I have only:

1 Cable Modem linked to Starhub Maxonline 1500
1 Notebook (Pentium3, 128 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium 133, 32 Ram)
1 Desktop (Pentium2, 64 Ram)

Please advise. Thanks. ;)

i suppose you also have a SCV cable point downstair in the living room?

if that is so it maybe better to reposition your cable modem downstair, since you intend to go wireless, must as well make your notebook wireless.

if this is possible, the setup could be much cheaper, especially if the cable modem and the intended wireless router can be positioned near to the at least 1, if not 2 of the desktops.

most wireless router comes with 4 LAN ports for connnecting to the PCs by wires, therefore it make good economic sense to have wired connection for the desktop PC, and instead unwire your notebook.

i would recommend the Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit ($219, The Hardware Place #04-20 SLS) which comes with 1 4-port wireless router and an USB wireless adapter. 1 of the desktop can be wireless with this USB wireless adapter, while the other desktop connect by wire.

then get a Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card ($49) for the notebook. i believe you should have good connection for your notebook upstair with this combination.

just in case the connection is not good enough, you still have to option to buy a range extender antenna WA-HGA-5+ at $49, which can increase the raneg of the Compex wireless router by another 50%.

[Murdoch]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


i suppose you also have a SCV cable point downstair in the living room?

if that is so it maybe better to reposition your cable modem downstair, since you intend to go wireless, must as well make your notebook wireless.

if this is possible, the setup could be much cheaper, especially if the cable modem and the intended wireless router can be positioned near to the at least 1, if not 2 of the desktops.

most wireless router comes with 4 LAN ports for connnecting to the PCs by wires, therefore it make good economic sense to have wired connection for the desktop PC, and instead unwire your notebook.

i would recommend the Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit ($219, The Hardware Place #04-20 SLS) which comes with 1 4-port wireless router and an USB wireless adapter. 1 of the desktop can be wireless with this USB wireless adapter, while the other desktop connect by wire.

then get a Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card ($49) for the notebook. i believe you should have good connection for your notebook upstair with this combination.

just in case the connection is not good enough, you still have to option to buy a range extender antenna WA-HGA-5+ at $49, which can increase the raneg of the Compex wireless router by another 50%.

:) Hi wirelessdan. thanks for your reply.

You said:
"if that is so it maybe better to reposition your cable modem downstairs, since you intend to go wireless, must as well make your notebook wireless."

Yes I have cable point downstairs BUT not at the position where the desktops are and I cannot move the desktops NOR add another cable point at the desktops' location. That is a huge problem! :mad: :mad:

You said:
"if this is possible, the setup could be much cheaper, especially if the cable modem and the intended wireless router can be positioned near to the at least 1, if not 2 of the desktops."

Question 1) Will the performance of the wireless network be the same if I keep the modem upstairs with the Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit, and the notebook wired to it, and use 2 pcs of USB wireless adapter for the desktops downstairs?

Question 2) In this instance (in Q1 above), the price difference from your suggested setup should be the price difference in price between the Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card that I will not need now (I know that my notebook will not be mobile in this case) and the additional USB wireless adapter (since one of the adapters will be free with the Compex SKW811) right?

Question 3) Can you advise on the brand, type and price of the additional USB wireless adapter?

Thanks a million!!;) ;)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Murdoch


:) Hi wirelessdan. thanks for your reply.

You said:
"if that is so it maybe better to reposition your cable modem downstairs, since you intend to go wireless, must as well make your notebook wireless."

Yes I have cable point downstairs BUT not at the position where the desktops are and I cannot move the desktops NOR add another cable point at the desktops' location. That is a huge problem! :mad: :mad:

You said:
"if this is possible, the setup could be much cheaper, especially if the cable modem and the intended wireless router can be positioned near to the at least 1, if not 2 of the desktops."

Question 1) Will the performance of the wireless network be the same if I keep the modem upstairs with the Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit, and the notebook wired to it, and use 2 pcs of USB wireless adapter for the desktops downstairs?

Question 2) In this instance (in Q1 above), the price difference from your suggested setup should be the price difference in price between the Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card that I will not need now (I know that my notebook will not be mobile in this case) and the additional USB wireless adapter (since one of the adapters will be free with the Compex SKW811) right?

Question 3) Can you advise on the brand, type and price of the additional USB wireless adapter?

Thanks a million!!;) ;)

not a big problem if you want to have the modem and wireless router on 2nd storey.

instead of getting the Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA card at $45, you get another Compex WLU11A USB wireless adapter for $59, $14 difference.

[Murdoch]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


not a big problem if you want to have the modem and wireless router on 2nd storey.

instead of getting the Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA card at $45, you get another Compex WLU11A USB wireless adapter for $59, $14 difference.

:) Therefore my total cost should be $219 + $ 59 = $$278! Thanks wirelessdan, you are most helpful. If you know anyone who wants to sell used Gateway Kit and the USB Wireless Adapter, please let me know. Second hand cheaper right??!!

Once again, thanks!

[joycul]

Thanks.... I try to play around with the positioning 1st..

[tohyeepeng]

I had the SMC-2642W EZ Connect WIFI card. Will it work well with Fulbong XI-1250A access point?

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


after almost a whole weekend of usage, i should say the Fulbong XI-1250A is quite a good value for money.

the setup was easy, living up to its name "smart AP", just plug it into 1 of the LAN ports on the router, and it work straight away.

performance wise, despite its small size (slightly larger than the Linksys WUSB11 USB adapter), believe it does deliver the promised 20 dbm (100 mw) power, using Enzer Skyroam Silver PC card on my notebook, the signal strength consistently beat the Linksys BEFW11S4 which is rated at 18 dbm.

recommending this as the wireless addon to existing wired router network, at $160.

[Murdoch]

:confused: WIRELESSDAN......wirelessdan........need your help again:

There are so many terminologies and jargon in this business that it makes a newbie like me "blur blur".

What is the difference between
a) Router
b) Switch
c) Gateway Kit, and
d) Access Point????????

What is the difference between
a) PCI card
b) PCI Adapter
c) USB Adapter

Sorry I so stupid hor, but the more I find out the more I lost, so need your help lah.......

Thanks in advance.....

[hyper_rev]

Hi wirelessdan2002...

I've got some questions about wireless lan... how do you extend signal of the wireless lan? Other than getting a satellite dish and connect to my card, is there another option? Would like to extend the signal by quite a considerable distance though... Is it possible in the first place? I'm using an Avaya Wireless Gold card..

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by tohyeepeng
I had the SMC-2642W EZ Connect WIFI card. Will it work well with Fulbong XI-1250A access point?






it should work. infact Fulbond XI-1250A is the same as SMC2655W AP.

[tohyeepeng]

Thanks

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


it should work. infact Fulbond XI-1250A is the same as SMC2655W AP.

[nitrodrops]

Hi Dan,

read thru most of the threads, for Terrace House, you recommend a Combo of

- Compex SkW811 wireless gateway kit $219
- Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card $49
- Range extender antenna WA-HGA-5+ at $49

is Compex Gateway kit currently the best router with the minimal power loss in the market?

I have 2 scenarios which needed to deploy wireless

Scenario A
- Same as the one posted by Murdoch, and you have given him your expertise on the combo. I will use that combo.

Scenario B
- Share Broadband with my neighbour on the same floor, Executive Flats.
- 2 PCs in my home. and 2 PCs in my meigbour home
- All the 4 PCs are located in bedroom.
- PI Broadband 512K is located in my flat
- If i will to deploy the Gateway in my living room, so that it could be nearer to my neighbour,
- Max number of walls from my neighbour's PC to the router would be 4 walls, less than 15 metres.

Would Compex Combo be sufficient enough to do the job?

[xllms]

Originally posted by nitrodrops
Hi Dan,

read thru most of the threads, for Terrace House, you recommend a Combo of

- Compex SkW811 wireless gateway kit $219
- Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card $49
- Range extender antenna WA-HGA-5+ at $49

is Compex Gateway kit currently the best router with the minimal power loss in the market?

I have 2 scenarios which needed to deploy wireless

Scenario A
- Same as the one posted by Murdoch, and you have given him your expertise on the combo. I will use that combo.

Scenario B
- Share Broadband with my neighbour on the same floor, Executive Flats.
- 2 PCs in my home. and 2 PCs in my meigbour home
- All the 4 PCs are located in bedroom.
- PI Broadband 512K is located in my flat
- If i will to deploy the Gateway in my living room, so that it could be nearer to my neighbour,
- Max number of walls from my neighbour's PC to the router would be 4 walls, less than 15 metres.

Would Compex Combo be sufficient enough to do the job?

hi nitrodrops,

me using the configuration which u have stated, except tat i am on compex WL11A+ instead of the B version. However, since both using the same agere chipset, I supposed the performance will be the same.

regarding your 2nd option to share internet BB w ur neighbour, I am rather sceptical of the performance even if you managed to get it thru...

i have 3 pcs in my house all on wireless...if the signals go thru more than 3 walls, the signal strength drops to about half or less. So I guess if your are sharing with your neighbour, the 4 walls n d distance might be a big hindrance to the setup. However, you can try, do let us know about the outcome.

good luck

xllms

[madgoh]

All Wireless Guru,

NEED HELP!!! I juz bought the Fulbond XI-1250A and I hit into problem connecting it.

Here is my environment:
- Singnet BB 256
- Aztech 900B connect to NOKIA IP30
- NOKIA IP30 connect to my PC and Fulbond XI-1250A
- Fulbond XI-1250A configure as DHCP Client
- My Laptop using NOKIA C110
- Can see strong signal but cannot join the network.
- Upgrade the Fulbond XI-1250A firmware to version 3.0

My question is NOKIA C110 not compatible to Fulbond XI-1250A? or did I miss some configuration step?

Thanks in advance...

[madgoh]

All Wireless Guru,

NEED HELP!!! I juz bought the Fulbond XI-1250A and I hit into problem connecting it.

Here is my environment:
- Singnet BB 256
- Aztech 900B connect to NOKIA IP30
- NOKIA IP30 connect to my PC and Fulbond XI-1250A
- Fulbond XI-1250A configure as DHCP Client
- My Laptop using NOKIA C110
- Can see strong signal but cannot join the network.
- Upgrade the Fulbond XI-1250A firmware to version 3.0

My question is NOKIA C110 not compatible to Fulbond XI-1250A? or did I miss some configuration step?

Thanks in advance...

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by xllms


hi nitrodrops,

me using the configuration which u have stated, except tat i am on compex WL11A+ instead of the B version. However, since both using the same agere chipset, I supposed the performance will be the same.

regarding your 2nd option to share internet BB w ur neighbour, I am rather sceptical of the performance even if you managed to get it thru...

i have 3 pcs in my house all on wireless...if the signals go thru more than 3 walls, the signal strength drops to about half or less. So I guess if your are sharing with your neighbour, the 4 walls n d distance might be a big hindrance to the setup. However, you can try, do let us know about the outcome.

good luck

xllms

Hi Xllms,

Due to the 4 walls within 15 metres, I am looking for the router with the minimal power loss, hopefully, the power signal losses won't be that much.

Thus, i am seeking WirelessDan's advice if the Compex Combo is about to be deploy and perform satisafactory in my neighbour's house.

I reckon that is Compex Combo can works fine in the 3 Storey house, it shall be able to perform well on a hdb flat too.

I wont hestitate to deploy another Range extender antenna to boost up the signal.

Just waiting for WirelessDan's expertise, think some1 is this forum scared him off?

[linxd]

Originally posted by Murdoch
:confused: WIRELESSDAN......wirelessdan........need your help again:

There are so many terminologies and jargon in this business that it makes a newbie like me "blur blur".

What is the difference between



a) Router: sharing an enternal connection for a group of PC,
b) Switch: faster then hub, connecting all the PC togather,
c) Gateway Kit, and , not sure what it means, may router+switch+......
d) Access Point????????: work like hub or switch, but
it's for wireless connection.

What is the difference between
a) PCI card, a network adapter plug in PCI slot of your PC's motherboard
b) PCI Adapter, an Adapter plug to PCI
c) USB Adapter, an adapter plug to USB port.

Sorry I so stupid hor, but the more I find out the more I lost, so need your help lah.......

Thanks in advance.....

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by madgoh
All Wireless Guru,

NEED HELP!!! I juz bought the Fulbond XI-1250A and I hit into problem connecting it.

Here is my environment:
- Singnet BB 256
- Aztech 900B connect to NOKIA IP30
- NOKIA IP30 connect to my PC and Fulbond XI-1250A
- Fulbond XI-1250A configure as DHCP Client
- My Laptop using NOKIA C110
- Can see strong signal but cannot join the network.
- Upgrade the Fulbond XI-1250A firmware to version 3.0

My question is NOKIA C110 not compatible to Fulbond XI-1250A? or did I miss some configuration step?

Thanks in advance...

firstly i am not too sure about the Nokia IP30, did a search on the net and found out that it is some kind of security/firewall system?

so how does the Fulbond connect to the IP30?

a logical setup should be the Aztech DSL900B modem connects to a NAT router, and the Fulbond AP connects to 1 of the LAN ports of the NAT router.

does the Nokia IP30 have NAT router function too?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops
Hi Dan,

read thru most of the threads, for Terrace House, you recommend a Combo of

- Compex SkW811 wireless gateway kit $219
- Compex WL11B+ PCMCIA wireless card $49
- Range extender antenna WA-HGA-5+ at $49

is Compex Gateway kit currently the best router with the minimal power loss in the market?

I have 2 scenarios which needed to deploy wireless

Scenario A
- Same as the one posted by Murdoch, and you have given him your expertise on the combo. I will use that combo.

Scenario B
- Share Broadband with my neighbour on the same floor, Executive Flats.
- 2 PCs in my home. and 2 PCs in my meigbour home
- All the 4 PCs are located in bedroom.
- PI Broadband 512K is located in my flat
- If i will to deploy the Gateway in my living room, so that it could be nearer to my neighbour,
- Max number of walls from my neighbour's PC to the router would be 4 walls, less than 15 metres.

Would Compex Combo be sufficient enough to do the job?

firstly there is no such thing as minimum power loss system, the power loss due to wall is typically 6 db, ie. every brick wall will reduce the range by half (6db rule: every 6 db loss will reduce raneg by half, every 6 db gain will double the range)

a simple computation:

the Compex system is able to reach 400 meters in open air with full line-of-sight ie. without any obstacle. for indoor this line-of-sight range is 200 meters.

if there is 1 wall in between. in indoor use this range will reduce to 100 meters, if 2 walls will be 50 meters, 3 walls will be 25 meters, 4 walls will be 12.5 meters.

therefore 15 meters could be marginal for the link. but if you choose the location of the router carefully, and position your neighbour's PC's wireless adapter at a high and unobstructed position, chances that the link should be adequate for at least a 2 Mbps speed, which is sufficient for internet shairng. and even better chance if you use a HGA-5+ range extender antenna.

if possible, email me the floor plan (wirelessdan2002@yahoo.com.sg) and may be able to suggest a few options for your system setup.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


firstly there is no such thing as minimum power loss system, the power loss due to wall is typically 6 db, ie. every brick wall will reduce the range by half (6db rule: every 6 db loss will reduce raneg by half, every 6 db gain will double the range)

a simple computation:

the Compex system is able to reach 400 meters in open air with full line-of-sight ie. without ant obstacle in to 200 meters.

if there is 1 wall in between. in indoor use this range will reduce to 100 meters, if 2 walls will be 50 meters, 3 walls will be 25 meters, 4 walls will be 12.5 meters.

therefore 15 meters could be marginal for the link. but if you choose the location of the router carefully, and position your neighbour's PC's wireless adapter at a high and unobstructed position, chances that the link should be adequate for at least a 2 Mbps speed, which is sufficient for internet shairng. and even better chance if you use a HGA-5+ range extender antenna.

if possible, email me the floor plan (wirelessdan2002@yahoo.com.sg) and may be able to suggest a few options for your system setup.

Dan, great thanks to your kind expertise, will drop you the floor plan via email.

Cheers

[mooncalf]

Hello Dan,

Can you please help me by referring to my post below?
need help with my WEP!

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?forumid=4&threadid=534067

[sky37]

Hi Dan,

I'm currently running PPPoE using the Efficient SpeedStream 5660 router. As it's already a router, I'm thinking of just getting a Wireless AP. But then again, the price difference between AP/Router and AP is minimum, and the AP/Router comes with more functionality which I thought is useful.

Have you came across such a configuration, and if the Compex (or even other makes) package would work in a 2-storey house? Thanks!

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by sky37
Hi Dan,

I'm currently running PPPoE using the Efficient SpeedStream 5660 router. As it's already a router, I'm thinking of just getting a Wireless AP. But then again, the price difference between AP/Router and AP is minimum, and the AP/Router comes with more functionality which I thought is useful.

Have you came across such a configuration, and if the Compex (or even other makes) package would work in a 2-storey house? Thanks!

to use with a wireless router, you can configure the 5660 to become a full bridge modem, ie. its PPPoE dialing and routing functions are disable, check out www.azacamis.com on how this can be done.

most wireless routers can work in 2-storey house provided the placement/location of the wireless router is carefully chosen. Compex system has added advantage that an external antenna can be used to enhance its range and throughout performance, at minimal cost.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


Dan, great thanks to your kind expertise, will drop you the floor plan via email.

Cheers


have emailed u. dropped by at Hardware place 2day, ppl there are real helpful

[marcoin]

Hi WirelessDan,

I have a query here. Currently Im subscribing to SNBB 256K. They supplied me the Efficient USB 4060 ADSL modem. I have a PC running Win98 2nd edition and my laptop runs winxp. So what I need in order to share internet access? Can a USB wireless adaptor be used on my modem or I need to get a ethernet type modem? Or do u prefer me to buy a router instead? i just need to roam about within my flat. Pls give some good advice... Thks...

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops



have emailed u. dropped by at Hardware place 2day, ppl there are real helpful

have got your mail, will go through it and get back to you.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by marcoin
Hi WirelessDan,

I have a query here. Currently Im subscribing to SNBB 256K. They supplied me the Efficient USB 4060 ADSL modem. I have a PC running Win98 2nd edition and my laptop runs winxp. So what I need in order to share internet access? Can a USB wireless adaptor be used on my modem or I need to get a ethernet type modem? Or do u prefer me to buy a router instead? i just need to roam about within my flat. Pls give some good advice... Thks...


2 ways to go about it:

the cheap way: using the existing USB modem, get an USB wireless adappter for your desktop and configure the desktop to double up as a wireless router, and get a PCMCIA wireless card for your laptop, total cost $59 (I-connect USB wireless adapter) + $49 (I-connect PCMCIA wireless card) = $108. trade off here is you will have to switch on the desktop for the laptop to surf.

the full router way: get an ethernet ADSL modem at $99, get the I-connect wireles router $125, and an I-connect PCMCIA wireless card $49 for the laptop, total $273, in this case you can surf independently with the laptop.

[marcoin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002



2 ways to go about it:

the cheap way: using the existing USB modem, get an USB wireless adappter for your desktop and configure the desktop to double up as a wireless router, and get a PCMCIA wireless card for your laptop, total cost $59 (I-connect USB wireless adapter) + $49 (I-connect PCMCIA wireless card) = $108. trade off here is you will have to switch on the desktop for the laptop to surf.

the full router way: get an ethernet ADSL modem at $99, get the I-connect wireles router $125, and an I-connect PCMCIA wireless card $49 for the laptop, total $273, in this case you can surf independently with the laptop.

Thks for the info, may I know which particular shop sells the cheapest I connect products? And currently Im using 256 BB, contract has expired and thinking of switching to SCV... Will the download speed, internet surfing be faster for SCV maxonline compare with SN256K?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by marcoin


Thks for the info, may I know which particular shop sells the cheapest I connect products? And currently Im using 256 BB, contract has expired and thinking of switching to SCV... Will the download speed, internet surfing be faster for SCV maxonline compare with SN256K?

The Hardware Place #04-20 SLS.

about pros and cons of ADSL plan vs SCV cable, no comment on that.

[flep1]

What is the diff between wl11b+ and wl11a+ in terms of performance? is it still possible to buy wl11a+ now?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by flep1
What is the diff between wl11b+ and wl11a+ in terms of performance? is it still possible to buy wl11a+ now?

WL11A+ is based on the 5 years old legendary Orinoco card's design, though old it is still 1 of the best performance cards available, partly due to its outstanding antenna design. however some users find the longer than average antenna housing quite an irritation.

the new Agere card with the short antenna housing does not suffer any drop in performance due to the breakthrough in the antenna design, i have personally tested them side by side and the new card infact has a slight edge.

so for the same price, WL11B+ is defintely a better bet.

http://www.i-connect.com.sg/downloads/WPC-11B/wireless_lancard.pdf

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


have got your mail, will go through it and get back to you.

thanks, take your time pls.

Will be dropping by at Comex on Thursday and recee if there is better deals around.

Cheers
=p

[madgoh]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


firstly i am not too sure about the Nokia IP30, did a search on the net and found out that it is some kind of security/firewall system?

so how does the Fulbond connect to the IP30?

a logical setup should be the Aztech DSL900B modem connects to a NAT router, and the Fulbond AP connects to 1 of the LAN ports of the NAT router.

does the Nokia IP30 have NAT router function too?


Hi...wirelessdan2002,

Thanks for the reply. As I'm just came back to Singapore.

Fulbond is connected to IP30 with RJ45 cable. And Nokia IP30 do have NAT function. I wonder you heard of Check Point Firewall, Nokia IP30 is a strip down version of Check Point Firewall in a small appliance.

Anyway my friend help me to test the Fulbond with his notebook and SMC wireless card. It works well. I think the Nokia C110 is not compatible with Fulbond access point.

Thanks alot...

[kelvintongwc]

Wirelessdan!

Can you help me? I'm using SCV MaxOnline 1500.

My prob is listed here in detail: http://deluxeforums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=551933

But I'll explain it to you as well. I managed to setup my home wireless connection with no probs whatsover. I managed to surf the Net with both my PDA and my computer which is hooked on by ethernet cable.

The problem I'm facing is this. I'm suffering from really low download speeds if compared between using a direct connection from my modem to my comp (I get about 120KB/s to 200KB/s) as compared to when I'm connected to my Compex router (NetPassage 16A with latest firmware) where I'm getting speed between 5KB/s to 30KB/s.

Is there any problems with my settings to see such a drastic decrease? I also tried unplugging my wireless connection (ie. leaving only the line connection on to the router) and I only see a slight improvement but still below par. My router is shared only between my PDA (wireless) and one desktop (ethernet cable).

Is there anyway to disable the router firewall or increase the no of UDP/TCPIP ports to enhance the connection?

Can anyone give me an ideal setting that they have to set up a speedy connection with a Compex router?

[rmhtoh]

Hi WirelessDan
Need some of ur expertise. I am thinking of going wireless at my home but dont really know which wireless product is good. I am comparing Dlink DI624, Linksys WRT54G, Linksys WRT55AG and Netgear WGR614.
Thanks in advance.
Richard

[kelvintongwc]

Maybe you can try the Compex router wireless combo. If you quick you can get the extra antenna to boost the wireless signal all for the price of S$199. Look around in the hardware thread. It's really a steal.

I know a few shops such as Costronics, Fonny, The PC Theme shop and a few other are carrying this promo. I'm not sure if they still have any stock or not though!

[linkiat]

Hi WirelessDan,

I have a problem with my setup and hope you can help...

What I'm Using: Starhub Max Online 1500
What I have : Motorola Surfboard 3100 & 3COM 10/100 PCI Ethernet Card
What WLAN Stuff I Bought: Dlink 520+ & Dlink DI614+ Access Point

Problem:
The Dlink 520+ detects the Wireless Accesspoint correctly. But when I hook up theCat5 cable from the cable modem to the DI 614+ (Accesspoint), the WAN keeps on blinking attempting to search for the modem but can't seem to find it.

The WLAN is lit indicating wireless LAN was detected. Power was okay. I swapped a few cables but still the same. Currently I cannot even get into the setup page.

Can you kindly offer your help and expertise on this ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by kelvintongwc
Wirelessdan!

Can you help me? I'm using SCV MaxOnline 1500.

My prob is listed here in detail: http://deluxeforums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=551933

But I'll explain it to you as well. I managed to setup my home wireless connection with no probs whatsover. I managed to surf the Net with both my PDA and my computer which is hooked on by ethernet cable.

The problem I'm facing is this. I'm suffering from really low download speeds if compared between using a direct connection from my modem to my comp (I get about 120KB/s to 200KB/s) as compared to when I'm connected to my Compex router (NetPassage 16A with latest firmware) where I'm getting speed between 5KB/s to 30KB/s.

Is there any problems with my settings to see such a drastic decrease? I also tried unplugging my wireless connection (ie. leaving only the line connection on to the router) and I only see a slight improvement but still below par. My router is shared only between my PDA (wireless) and one desktop (ethernet cable).

Is there anyway to disable the router firewall or increase the no of UDP/TCPIP ports to enhance the connection?

Can anyone give me an ideal setting that they have to set up a speedy connection with a Compex router?

unless you paid US$25 for the SPI firewall, the NP16A only has the NAT which should not slow down your connection.

you may want to try do a factory default reset and start the configuration again, and try restart the modem too to get a fresh IP address.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by kelvintongwc
Maybe you can try the Compex router wireless combo. If you quick you can get the extra antenna to boost the wireless signal all for the price of S$199. Look around in the hardware thread. It's really a steal.

I know a few shops such as Costronics, Fonny, The PC Theme shop and a few other are carrying this promo. I'm not sure if they still have any stock or not though!

extra antenna = Range Extender?

Manage to get the Gateway Kit @ $199 @ PC show but w/o the extra antenna

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by rmhtoh
Hi WirelessDan
Need some of ur expertise. I am thinking of going wireless at my home but dont really know which wireless product is good. I am comparing Dlink DI624, Linksys WRT54G, Linksys WRT55AG and Netgear WGR614.
Thanks in advance.
Richard


personally i am not in favour of 11G system, unless you have an absolute need of the 54 Mbps link, you should be better off getting a good 11B system with some good saving. do bear in mind that your link has to be really close, ie. maximum 1 wall apart in order to achieve 54 Mbps speed, further than that you link probably will just work at 11 Mbps or less.

furthermore, if any of your wireless client adapters can only work at 11 Mbp speed, the speed of the whole system will be limited to 11 Mbps, even there is a client PC very close to the router. for that matter, alomost all USB wireless client work at 11 Mbps maximum, so as all the built-in wireless card of the Centrino notebooks.

if you foresee frequent need of large (few GBytes) files transfer between PCs, the wired LAN ports of the router with 100 Mbps speed is a better bet.

SLS shops are selling the Compex SKW811 kit (1 4-port wireless router + 1 USB wireless adapter) at $199, with a bonus 5 dbi range extender antenna which will give this setup very robust 11 Mbps speed for even the furthest corner of your home.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


extra antenna = Range Extender?

Manage to get the Gateway Kit @ $199 @ PC show but w/o the extra antenna

you are being short changed by Powermatic, the exhibitor in the show, which is actually the parent company of Compex.

while Powermatic marketing people think that their $199 is a very good deal (which was true 2 weeks ago), they do not know that Compex marketing actually went agressive by giving shops in SLS a much better deal with a bonus $49 range extender antenna.

when i told Powermatic exhibitors about this, they were in total disbelief that they were undercut by Compex themselves. such an irony when Compex is their subsidiary, and both are housed in the same building in Joo Send Road.

it happened to me few months back when i bought a few pieces of the antenna at $60 from Powermatic, and later to find out that The Hardware Place was selling it for $49, with their source came from Compex.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by linkiat
Hi WirelessDan,

I have a problem with my setup and hope you can help...

What I'm Using: Starhub Max Online 1500
What I have : Motorola Surfboard 3100 & 3COM 10/100 PCI Ethernet Card
What WLAN Stuff I Bought: Dlink 520+ & Dlink DI614+ Access Point

Problem:
The Dlink 520+ detects the Wireless Accesspoint correctly. But when I hook up theCat5 cable from the cable modem to the DI 614+ (Accesspoint), the WAN keeps on blinking attempting to search for the modem but can't seem to find it.

The WLAN is lit indicating wireless LAN was detected. Power was okay. I swapped a few cables but still the same. Currently I cannot even get into the setup page.

Can you kindly offer your help and expertise on this ?

kind of unusual problem, you can PM me your contact, will try to help you through the phone if possible.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


you are being short changed by Powermatic, the exhibitor in the show, which is actually the parent company of Compex.

while Powermatic marketing people think that their $199 is a very good deal (which was true 2 weeks ago), they do not know that Compex marketing actually went agressive by giving shops in SLS a much better deal with a bonus $49 range extender antenna.

when i told Powermatic exhibitors about this, they were in total disbelief that they were undercut by Compex themselves. such an irony when Compex is their subsidiary, and both are housed in the same building in Joo Send Road.

it happened to me few months back when i bought a few pieces of the antenna at $60 from Powermatic, and later to find out that The Hardware Place was selling it for $49, with their source came from Compex.

<SIGH> still tot i got a good deal when i withheld my purchase @ Hardware Place @ $219 2 weeks ago.

Dan, BTW where is good to get the Range Extender @ a good bargain again?

Going to try sharing with my neighbour using this Compex Combo

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


<SIGH> still tot i got a good deal when i withheld my purchase @ Hardware Place @ $219 2 weeks ago.

Dan, BTW where is good to get the Range Extender @ a good bargain again?

Going to try sharing with my neighbour using this Compex Combo

just went through your floor plan, there maybe problem with bedroom 2 in the 2nd flat as it is 4 walls away from the router. in this case the range extender antenna with 5 db gain (a brick wall infact attenuate the signal by 5 to 6 db) will sure help.

i have a few pieces of this antenna to spare, can let you try it out.

[rmhtoh]

Thks Wirelessdan2002

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


just went through your floor plan, there maybe problem with bedroom 2 in the 2nd flat as it is 4 walls away from the router. in this case the range extender antenna with 5 db gain (a brick wall infact attenuate the signal by 5 to 6 db) will sure help.

i have a few pieces of this antenna to spare, can let you try it out.

Dan, Great Thanks for your kind offers. Have dropped u a PM.

One qns, i aint too sure how actually the Antenna works. have not played with it yet.

Do i place it together with the gateway?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


Dan, Great Thanks for your kind offers. Have dropped u a PM.

One qns, i aint too sure how actually the Antenna works. have not played with it yet.

Do i place it together with the gateway?

it comes with 0.6 meter length cable, therefore can't be placed too far away from the router. you need to remove the rubber protective cover from the MCX connector on the wireless card before you can connect the antenna.

reason for the short cable is to minimise cable loss. the Original Orinoco range extender antenna ($150+) comes with 1.5 meter cable, but only has a gain of 2.5 db, compares to Compex HGA-5+'s 5 db.

have replied your PM.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


it comes with 0.6 meter length cable, therefore can't be placed too far away from the router. you need to remove the rubber protective cover from the MCX connector on the wireless card before you can connect the antenna.

reason for the short cable is to minimise cable loss. the Original Orinoco range extender antenna ($150+) comes with 1.5 meter cable, but only has a gain of 2.5 db, compares to Compex HGA-5+'s 5 db.

have replied your PM.

Cheers for your another kind advise.

Dan, was trying to setup just now. i realised that there isn't any port for the DEL line on the Compex Gateway. There is only a WAN (RJ-45) port which is to be connected to Cable Modem or ADSL modem.

I am currently using ADSL Speed Touch Pro @ home. I have a Aztech modem which is not in used. However, the modem does not have any spare FastEthernet Ports which can be downstream to the Compex Gateway.

Which type of Modem can i use to go with the Compex Gateway?

The other thing i can think of i to use the Connection from the existing Alcatel Speed Touch Pro Ethernet >> Compex. But in this case, it would be going through two gateways. Not too sure if it is workable, cos both the IPs and subnets are totally different, might need to change.

Cheers
Nitro

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


Cheers for your another kind advise.

Dan, was trying to setup just now. i realised that there isn't any port for the DEL line on the Compex Gateway. There is only a WAN (RJ-45) port which is to be connected to Cable Modem or ADSL modem.

I am currently using ADSL Speed Touch Pro @ home. I have a Aztech modem which is not in used. However, the modem does not have any spare FastEthernet Ports which can be downstream to the Compex Gateway.

Which type of Modem can i use to go with the Compex Gateway?

The other thing i can think of i to use the Connection from the existing Alcatel Speed Touch Pro Ethernet >> Compex. But in this case, it would be going through two gateways. Not too sure if it is workable, cos both the IPs and subnets are totally different, might need to change.

Cheers
Nitro

Speedtouch Pro is a router, but can also be configured as a full bridge modem, 2 ways to connect to the Compex:

continue to use Speedtouch Pro as router, connect its ethernet port to 1 of the LAN ports of the Compex router, but disable the DHCP server function of the Compex, ie. the Compex is used as a switch + AP;

configure the Speedtouch Pro as a bridge (check out www.azacamis.com), connect its ethernet port to the WAN port of the Compex, and use the Compex as the router.

or if the Aztech modem is either DSL305E or DSL900E, you can use them as bridge modem too to connect to the Compex.

[hyper_rev]

Hi WirelessDan2002...

i've got this question over here. I'm trying to tap my school's wireless connection but its only available at a point which is 1km away.

I'm using a orinoco gold PCMCIA card, and say if I get this SMC product (SMCANT-DI145) which is actually an antenna of 14.5db, would i be able to receive wireless signal if i'm 1km away?

Thanks for your expertise.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


Speedtouch Pro is a router, but can also be configured as a full bridge modem, 2 ways to connect to the Compex:

continue to use Speedtouch Pro as router, connect its ethernet port to 1 of the LAN ports of the Compex router, but disable the DHCP server function of the Compex, ie. the Compex is used as a switch + AP;

configure the Speedtouch Pro as a bridge (check out www.azacamis.com), connect its ethernet port to the WAN port of the Compex, and use the Compex as the router.

or if the Aztech modem is either DSL305E or DSL900E, you can use them as bridge modem too to connect to the Compex.

COOL!

I reckon using method 1 by configuring it as a Switch + AP would be the most easy way.

I will try configuring the 2nd method too, to see the brigding capabilities of the SpeedTOuch Pro.

Aztech modem is DSL 5000, which belongs neither to the 2 models you specified.

Have not received your PM, but have replied your Email.

Cheers
Nit

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by hyper_rev
Hi WirelessDan2002...

i've got this question over here. I'm trying to tap my school's wireless connection but its only available at a point which is 1km away.

I'm using a orinoco gold PCMCIA card, and say if I get this SMC product (SMCANT-DI145) which is actually an antenna of 14.5db, would i be able to receive wireless signal if i'm 1km away?

Thanks for your expertise.

your SMC antenna's gain of 14.5db looks pretty stronger compared to Compex's antenna of 6db gain.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by hyper_rev
Hi WirelessDan2002...

i've got this question over here. I'm trying to tap my school's wireless connection but its only available at a point which is 1km away.

I'm using a orinoco gold PCMCIA card, and say if I get this SMC product (SMCANT-DI145) which is actually an antenna of 14.5db, would i be able to receive wireless signal if i'm 1km away?

Thanks for your expertise.

firstly 1 KM is not a problem if there is clear line of sight in between, ie. no other building comes in between your school and your home.

follow these basic rules:

1. 6 db rule - every 6 db more in power means double the transmission distance, or vice versa: every 6 db less means 1/2 the distance (6 db means 4 times the power, - 6 db means 1/4 of the power).

2. every wall in between = 6 db less, or the distance will be halved. if there is a typical HDB block in between the link, you will have at least 4 walls to penetrate, ie. -24 db, which means the distance will be reduced to only 1/16.

even without any building in between, the AP may have to go through a few walls (school exterior walls + your home exterior walls) before reaching your wireless card. of course it is easier for you to overcome your own exterior wall if you can place the antenna outside the wall.

you should check all these out before deciding if it is practical to embark on such project. typically cards like the Orinoco Gold have a range of 400 meters without with complete line-of-sight, 1 wall in between will reduce it to 200 meters, 2 will mean 100 meters and so on.

also really not sure if the SMC antenna can fit the MCX connector of the Orinoco card.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


COOL!

I reckon using method 1 by configuring it as a Switch + AP would be the most easy way.

I will try configuring the 2nd method too, to see the brigding capabilities of the SpeedTOuch Pro.

Aztech modem is DSL 5000, which belongs neither to the 2 models you specified.

Have not received your PM, but have replied your Email.

Cheers
Nit

DSL500U is an USB modem, so it is no use at all for your networking setup.

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


DSL500U is an USB modem, so it is no use at all for your networking setup.

Managed to setup the wireless network by using Method 1, treating Compex as a Switch only running on Static IP for my Laptop.

Managed to surf internet when i tried at the various positions of my flat.

Still managed to get an average Signal Strength of 66% outside the common corridor, 33% at the level above me.

Howver, all of a sudden, the "CONN" light starts flashing => which means the WAN connection is not established.


Not too sure, what actually happened. I only configured the LAN Setup portion. Since this Compex is going to be used only for a Switch. DHCP has been disabled.

One query that has been bothering me :
On the Static IP, shall the Gateway IP be the IP address of the Compex Switch or IP address of my Alcatel Router?

I have tried changing the Gateway IP to Alcatel, yet the "CONN" light is still flashing

Alcatel ROuter Gateway : 10.0.0.138 255.0.0.0
Compex Switch IP : 10.0.0.1 255.0.0.0

Is there anything else i need to check out?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops


Managed to setup the wireless network by using Method 1, treating Compex as a Switch only running on Static IP for my Laptop.

Managed to surf internet when i tried at the various positions of my flat.

Still managed to get an average Signal Strength of 66% outside the common corridor, 33% at the level above me.

Howver, all of a sudden, the "CONN" light starts flashing => which means the WAN connection is not established.


Not too sure, what actually happened. I only configured the LAN Setup portion. Since this Compex is going to be used only for a Switch. DHCP has been disabled.

One query that has been bothering me :
On the Static IP, shall the Gateway IP be the IP address of the Compex Switch or IP address of my Alcatel Router?

I have tried changing the Gateway IP to Alcatel, yet the "CONN" light is still flashing

Alcatel ROuter Gateway : 10.0.0.138 255.0.0.0
Compex Switch IP : 10.0.0.1 255.0.0.0

Is there anything else i need to check out?

perfectly normal for the "Conn" light to flash, as there is no WAN connection to the Compex gateway.

you actually do not have to use static IP (no harm though), set your client to "obtain an IP automatically" will enable it to get the IP from the Alcatel router. but if you set to static IP, then the gateway address should be that of the Alcatel.

if you do not want the flashing "Conn" light, then configure the Alcatel as a bridge, and connect to the Compex's WAN port.

the Compex gateway by itself has very good range and throughput performance in the class of the enterprise favourite Orinoco/Avaya APs (afterall they all use the same wireless card as radio), beating most wireless routers on the market, the range extender antenna will further enhance its performance to the class of the Cisco 350 series and Intel Pro 2011 APs (both having power output of 100 mw/20 dbm).

[kelvintongwc]

Wirelessdan,

I'm using the Compex router with wireless function. How am I able to know if anyone is tapping into my wireless connection. Is there a program or anything I can look at to make any trace?

[nitrodrops]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


perfectly normal for the "Conn" light to flash, as there is no WAN connection to the Compex gateway.

you actually do not have to use static IP (no harm though), set your client to "obtain an IP automatically" will enable it to get the IP from the Alcatel router. but if you set to static IP, then the gateway address should be that of the Alcatel.

if you do not want the flashing "Conn" light, then configure the Alcatel as a bridge, and connect to the Compex's WAN port.

the Compex gateway by itself has very good range and throughput performance in the class of the enterprise favourite Orinoco/Avaya APs (afterall they all use the same wireless card as radio), beating most wireless routers on the market, the range extender antenna will further enhance its performance to the class of the Cisco 350 series and Intel Pro 2011 APs (both having power output of 100 mw/20 dbm).

Didnt really if the "CONN' is blinking when i am able to surf around my house till i bring it out to corridor and test.

Well, will test the Briding later.......Troubshooting is headache but when resolved it is fun.

[hyper_rev]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


firstly 1 KM is not a problem if there is clear line of sight in between, ie. no other building comes in between your school and your home.

follow these basic rules:

1. 6 db rule - every 6 db more in power means double the transmission distance, or vice versa: every 6 db less means 1/2 the distance (6 db means 4 times the power, - 6 db means 1/4 of the power).

2. every wall in between = 6 db less, or the distance will be halved. if there is a typical HDB block in between the link, you will have at least 4 walls to penetrate, ie. -24 db, which means the distance will be reduced to only 1/16.

even without any building in between, the AP may have to go through a few walls (school exterior walls + your home exterior walls) before reaching your wireless card. of course it is easier for you to overcome your own exterior wall if you can place the antenna outside the wall.

you should check all these out before deciding if it is practical to embark on such project. typically cards like the Orinoco Gold have a range of 400 meters without with complete line-of-sight, 1 wall in between will reduce it to 200 meters, 2 will mean 100 meters and so on.

also really not sure if the SMC antenna can fit the MCX connector of the Orinoco card.

Thanks for your reply. Got another question before i start on this project.

I'm using an Ipaq, with a CF wireless lan card. The card is working, (cos of the blinking light), but how do i configure it to use the wireless lan network? Also, is it possible to link it between my laptop and the Pocket PC via wireless lan?

Is it possible? Since I'm running on windows pocket pc 2002, though i've thought of buying the pocket pc 2003, just to have the wireless capability....

Once again, thank you very much.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by kelvintongwc
Wirelessdan,

I'm using the Compex router with wireless function. How am I able to know if anyone is tapping into my wireless connection. Is there a program or anything I can look at to make any trace?


firstly, prevention is always better than cure, so make sure you implement the security measures especially the WEP encryption. if there are hackers trying to hack into your system, it will be too late when you find out.


to know if there is intruder, firstly you can check the DHCP client list from the router setup page.

you can also activate the SPI firewall by paying US$25, or the 6e6 content filtering service (not sure how much).

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by hyper_rev


Thanks for your reply. Got another question before i start on this project.

I'm using an Ipaq, with a CF wireless lan card. The card is working, (cos of the blinking light), but how do i configure it to use the wireless lan network? Also, is it possible to link it between my laptop and the Pocket PC via wireless lan?

Is it possible? Since I'm running on windows pocket pc 2002, though i've thought of buying the pocket pc 2003, just to have the wireless capability....

Once again, thank you very much.

the WiFi CF card should come with an utility program for wireless setting, you need to install it.

you can setup a peer to peer wireless link between your laptop and the IPAQ, by using the "Adhoc" mode.

[PBird]

Hi Dan, I am getting MOL1500 on Thur & the installer is also running a cable point to the computer room. It's going to be awkward with wiring and all. The computer room is right next to my bedroom which has an existing cable point. The 2 rooms are separated by one wall. In fact, the new cable point (computer room) and the existing cable point (bedroom) is back-to-back on the same partition wall. Question is am I better off running an extra cable point (at $150) or set up a wireless router at the existing cable point and a wireless adaptor in the next door computer? What are the adv. & disadv. ? Thanks.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by PBird
Hi Dan, I am getting MOL1500 on Thur & the installer is also running a cable point to the computer room. It's going to be awkward with wiring and all. The computer room is right next to my bedroom which has an existing cable point. The 2 rooms are separated by one wall. In fact, the new cable point (computer room) and the existing cable point (bedroom) is back-to-back on the same partition wall. Question is am I better off running an extra cable point (at $150) or set up a wireless router at the existing cable point and a wireless adaptor in the next door computer? What are the adv. & disadv. ? Thanks.

$150, with another $30, total $180, you can get a Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit (1 x 4-port wireless router + 1 USB wireless adapter) to link up your Computer room's PC to the cable modem connected to the existing cable point.

it also gives you the capability for adding internet shairng PCs/notebooks in future.

[hyper_rev]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


the WiFi CF card should come with an utility program for wireless setting, you need to install it.

you can setup a peer to peer wireless link between your laptop and the IPAQ, by using the "Adhoc" mode.

Could connect to an access point, and between my pc. But is it possible for me to connect to the internet via wireless lan thru my pc, when my laptop is connected to the internet thru dial-up? BTW, could bluetooth be another option other than the wireless lan card?

I know its possible to do it between 2 laptops, thru ethernet cable, but never heard of in a pocket pc, and that's by running winxp network config help.

Thanks again for your help.

[PBird]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


$150, with another $30, total $180, you can get a Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit (1 x 4-port wireless router + 1 USB wireless adapter) to link up your Computer room's PC to the cable modem connected to the existing cable point.

it also gives you the capability for adding internet shairng PCs/notebooks in future.
Thanks, Dan!

[mooncalf]

Hi Dan,

I reallly reallly need help with my WEP setup. Doesn't work no matter how many times i tried it!

please refer to my post below:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?postid=7817472#post7817472

thank you VERY much. Please reply.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by mooncalf
Hi Dan,

I reallly reallly need help with my WEP setup. Doesn't work no matter how many times i tried it!

please refer to my post below:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?postid=7817472#post7817472

thank you VERY much. Please reply.


PM me your contact, will try to guide you through phone.

[hyenmeng]

Hi Dan,

I've got a strange one for you. I've recently purchased the PACNET BB ADSL plan, PACNET gave us the AZTECH DSL305E. I proceeded to hook it up directly to a laptop and used it in 1/2 bridge mode; No problems.

I also have a small network set up around the Linksys WRT54G wireless router/switch, some devices connected via wire others via wireless. The network is stable, the PCs and Laptops get an IP via DHCP in the Linksys.

Now I did a "CONNECTROUTER" to change the DSL305E to full bridge mode and plugged the straight CAT5 into my Linksys WRT54G (Wireless router/switch). I dialup and connect successfully and the Linksys get IPs and DNSs. The internet can be accessed by all devices successfully .... BUT within 3 minutes, the speed deteriorates until errors pop up. I can't figure it out. I ping an external address and only get 1 reply out of 4 or all timeouts. I call PACNET and they tell me its a "DEAD LINK", with IP but ZERO data throughput... and also its not their policy to support connections with routers. :(

I reset the modem to default and connect it to the laptop, No problems. :confused: Please help, I'm really stumped over this one.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by hyenmeng
Hi Dan,

I've got a strange one for you. I've recently purchased the PACNET BB ADSL plan, PACNET gave us the AZTECH DSL305E. I proceeded to hook it up directly to a laptop and used it in 1/2 bridge mode; No problems.

I also have a small network set up around the Linksys WRT54G wireless router/switch, some devices connected via wire others via wireless. The network is stable, the PCs and Laptops get an IP via DHCP in the Linksys.

Now I did a "CONNECTROUTER" to change the DSL305E to full bridge mode and plugged the straight CAT5 into my Linksys WRT54G (Wireless router/switch). I dialup and connect successfully and the Linksys get IPs and DNSs. The internet can be accessed by all devices successfully .... BUT within 3 minutes, the speed deteriorates until errors pop up. I can't figure it out. I ping an external address and only get 1 reply out of 4 or all timeouts. I call PACNET and they tell me its a "DEAD LINK", with IP but ZERO data throughput... and also its not their policy to support connections with routers. :(

I reset the modem to default and connect it to the laptop, No problems. :confused: Please help, I'm really stumped over this one.

agree with you is a strange problem, chances that the problem is with your LAN/WLAN setup, and not the WAN.

you may want to share with us the configuration of all the clients, both wired and wireless, the client adapters' models, the TCP/CP settings of all the client.

[mooncalf]

Hi dan, have u received my contact on PM?

this is my ipconfig. i hope it helps somewhat in deciphering my problem.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jt-bedrm
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Compex iWavePort WLU11A Mod2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-48-22-D9-F7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 165.21.83.88
165.21.100.88
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 18 September 2003 22:40:10
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 18 September 2003 23:40:10

[xavier_e86]

Hey dan,

I need your help as I'm thinking of going wireless for my home network. Can I email you with my floor layout plan etc.? Need to ask you other questions as well.

Thanks

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by mooncalf
Hi dan, have u received my contact on PM?

this is my ipconfig. i hope it helps somewhat in deciphering my problem.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jt-bedrm
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Compex iWavePort WLU11A Mod2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-48-22-D9-F7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 165.21.83.88
165.21.100.88
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 18 September 2003 22:40:10
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 18 September 2003 23:40:10

have emailed you. but from the configuration display here everything seemed right.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by xavier_e86
Hey dan,

I need your help as I'm thinking of going wireless for my home network. Can I email you with my floor layout plan etc.? Need to ask you other questions as well.

Thanks

you can email me direct at wirelessdan2002@yahoo.com.sg.

[nitrodrops]

Dan,

The antenna is SUPERB. Just tested out.

It increases the strength say by about 15% - 20%.
Just tested out on the one storey and one storey below my floor. I have yet to deploy/test out on the actual 5RM flat with my neighbour. Should not be any issues after seeing the Performances of the Antenna.

By the way, i have one query : there are 2 terms shown on the Wireless Connection

1) Signal Strength 2) Link Quality

What are the recommended threshold values for these two inputs.

So that when choosing an appropriate position, i can use the threshold as a guide.

Tested one floor upabove me with all doors closed

W/O Antenna
Signal Strength : 60%
Link Quality : 60%

W Antenna
Signal Strength : 78%
Link Quality : 100%

Btw, are the walls in HDB flats considered thick?

Thank you for so much help, and providing me with the antenna.

If you are somewhere near my office, give me a ring, shall meet up for Kopi. Treat on me.


Cheers
Nitro

[marcoin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002



2 ways to go about it:

the cheap way: using the existing USB modem, get an USB wireless adappter for your desktop and configure the desktop to double up as a wireless router, and get a PCMCIA wireless card for your laptop, total cost $59 (I-connect USB wireless adapter) + $49 (I-connect PCMCIA wireless card) = $108. trade off here is you will have to switch on the desktop for the laptop to surf.

the full router way: get an ethernet ADSL modem at $99, get the I-connect wireles router $125, and an I-connect PCMCIA wireless card $49 for the laptop, total $273, in this case you can surf independently with the laptop.

Hi WirelessDan,

I have came across the i-connect DSLwireless router. Does that mean i dont need to buy another ethernet modem? My current pc doesnt have a ethernet point. So do I need a USB wireless adaptor to link up with the DSLwireless router? I wonder how the DSL router connect to my pc. Can u explain to me... Thanks a lot.



:confused:

[Teaken]

dan,
which wireless pcmcia card is gd?
or clone of orinoco gold PCMCIA card?
i suppose the best wireless router should be senao SL2511SR? Dlink DWL-120 Usb adapter have the strongest signal?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by nitrodrops
Dan,

The antenna is SUPERB. Just tested out.

It increases the strength say by about 15% - 20%.
Just tested out on the one storey and one storey below my floor. I have yet to deploy/test out on the actual 5RM flat with my neighbour. Should not be any issues after seeing the Performances of the Antenna.

By the way, i have one query : there are 2 terms shown on the Wireless Connection

1) Signal Strength 2) Link Quality

What are the recommended threshold values for these two inputs.

So that when choosing an appropriate position, i can use the threshold as a guide.

Tested one floor upabove me with all doors closed

W/O Antenna
Signal Strength : 60%
Link Quality : 60%

W Antenna
Signal Strength : 78%
Link Quality : 100%

Btw, are the walls in HDB flats considered thick?

Thank you for so much help, and providing me with the antenna.

If you are somewhere near my office, give me a ring, shall meet up for Kopi. Treat on me.


Cheers
Nitro

firstly the link quality is more important than the signal strength, as it takes into consideration noise level and data integrity.

for Compex WLU11A, the link quality threshold for 11 Mbps speed is 50 to 60%, and it drops to 2 Mbps at around 30% link quality, below that the link is usually very unstable between 1 Mbps and disconnected state.

normal HDB brick wall has an attenuation from 5 to 6 db, ie. each wall will reduce the effective range by 1/2 (6db rule), but the reinforced concrete wall (main structure wall, pillar and cross beam) with its steel material within can attenuate the signal to as much as 15 db.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by marcoin


Hi WirelessDan,

I have came across the i-connect DSLwireless router. Does that mean i dont need to buy another ethernet modem? My current pc doesnt have a ethernet point. So do I need a USB wireless adaptor to link up with the DSLwireless router? I wonder how the DSL router connect to my pc. Can u explain to me... Thanks a lot.



:confused:

suppose you mean I-connect AP880 DSL wireless router.

i have 1 unit with me for almost a week. it has a built-in ADSL modem and therefore there is no need for another ethernet modem.

it has both wired and wireless connection capabilities: there is a 10/100 fast ethernet port for direct connnection to a PC LAN port or to a multi-port switch, and a 12 Mbps USB 1.1 port. both ports can work simutaneously for concurrent internet access, therefore if your PC does not have an ethernet port you can always use the USB connection.

my experience so far with the AP-880 has been great, running for 1 week continuously without any problem. wireless link performance is quite competent too.

for only $175 from The Hardware Place, it is real value for money for wireless LAN starter.

will be following up with a more thorough report on this.

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by Teaken
dan,
which wireless pcmcia card is gd?
or clone of orinoco gold PCMCIA card?
i suppose the best wireless router should be senao SL2511SR? Dlink DWL-120 Usb adapter have the strongest signal?

please disregard my earlier rating of the wifi components, they are more than 1/2 year old and new products rolling out every other day make such rating outdated real fast.

as of today, the best value for money wireless PC card is the Compex WL11B+ using same Agere chipset as the Orinoco Gold, going for only $39 from The Hardware Place.

best value for money wireless router is the compex NP16A wireless router , sold as part of the $175 Compex SKW811 wireless gateway kit (including also a Compex WLU11A USB wireless adapter).

and the best value for money USB wireless adapter is the Compex WLU11A or the I-connect WPC11U, both going for $59.

adding to my latest list is the I-connect all-in-1 ADSL wireless router AP880, with built-in ADSL modem, router and wireless AP, all for only $175.

[marcoin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


suppose you mean I-connect AP880 DSL wireless router.

i have 1 unit with me for almost a week. it has a built-in ADSL modem and therefore there is no need for another ethernet modem.

it has both wired and wireless connection capabilities: there is a 10/100 fast ethernet port for direct connnection to a PC LAN port or to a multi-port switch, and a 12 Mbps USB 1.1 port. both ports can work simutaneously for concurrent internet access, therefore if your PC does not have an ethernet port you can always use the USB connection.

my experience so far with the AP-880 has been great, running for 1 week continuously without any problem. wireless link performance is quite competent too.

for only $175 from The Hardware Place, it is real value for money for wireless LAN starter.

will be following up with a more thorough report on this.


Hi Dan,

Im living on the 6th floor of a HDB flat and my cousin is on the 9th floor directly above my unit. Will she be able to receive signal to surf from my wireless router up there at her room? Cos Im thinking of sharing the intenet access with her so that I can upgrade to 512K BB speed... :)

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by marcoin



Hi Dan,

Im living on the 6th floor of a HDB flat and my cousin is on the 9th floor directly above my unit. Will she be able to receive signal to surf from my wireless router up there at her room? Cos Im thinking of sharing the intenet access with her so that I can upgrade to 512K BB speed... :)

it really depend on if the room is direct on top of the other, if so there are actually just 3 layers of flooring in between, a good system should work.

but if the rooms are not directly on top, you can consider placing the AP and the client adapter near the windows (preferably use external antennas like the Compex system with WA-HGA-5+ 5 dbi antenna and stick it out of the wondows if possible).

[marcoin]

Originally posted by wirelessdan2002


it really depend on if the room is direct on top of the other, if so there are actually just 3 layers of flooring in between, a good system should work.

but if the rooms are not directly on top, you can consider placing the AP and the client adapter near the windows (preferably use external antennas like the Compex system with WA-HGA-5+ 5 dbi antenna and stick it out of the wondows if possible).

Hi Dan,

How secure is the AP-880 wireless router? Beside the WEP, what else can I do to secure my network? :confused:

[jastan]

Originally posted by marcoin


Hi Dan,

How secure is the AP-880 wireless router? Beside the WEP, what else can I do to secure my network? :confused:

Marcoin: If you got $$$ to spare, you can invest in 802.1x/EAP solution..that means one desktop configured with RADIUS database and certificate authority services running...

[ipaq4444]

dear mr dan,

i am wondering should i get the I-connect bundle of AP-800 wireless ruter or the compex solution .

I am presently using a dsl500u . i understand that it is useless for my new wireless setup.

cost is not a problem . i can get a new ethernet modem . what i am looking for is fexability . i understand that for the compex solution ( Wrong Spelling ? ) i can take the pcmcia card out and maybe next time replace with a G wireless card ? Possible ?

What about the I-connect ? can i pull out the wireless portion part as in the compex solution as well ?

if i change to max on line next time round can i still use the i connect to connect to the max one line modem ?

if you recommend the compex solution what ethernet modem or can i use those ethernet modem router with the compex wireless router ?

[wirelessdan2002]

Originally posted by marcoin


Hi Dan,

How secure is the AP-880 wireless router? Beside the WEP, what else can I do to secure my network? :confused:

the AP880 has all the standard security features like WEP and MAC address control. apart from that there is also SSID broadcast disabling feature which i am against using it.

to me use of WEP is good enough to secure a home wireless network.