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[usjag_18]

Originally posted by wadeva_lah
think against bolton we wud have a chance of winning. as long as alan smith plays. :D
against liverpool if we have rio, ruud and rooney then wud be :eek:

Let's not be too naive. Bolton is having one of their best season since they returned to EPL. And we should not look down on their players. Remember they have one of the most experience defenders in Spanish League, Ferrando Hierros. But let's not give up too. We should give our players credits too. I trust they will fight for what they want.


Originally posted by RVN


Remember the Tiago case, Mourinho say he was injured before the olympics and suddenly he is allowed to withdrew, when we say the same about Ronaldo, yet he is not allowed to, It's a bloody farce. :mad:

Ermm.. as for this case, it's over. Let's not think so much. Age is one of the factors here, I guess. And also, even it really happens so, it's also because Sir Alex Ferguson did offended them earlier on during the Euro 2004 and Olympics for stopping the players to go to the games.


But overall, let's not get so worry for nothing. Maybe, they just trying to bring C.Ronaldo there but will not really place in him in a match that will injured him and the future of Portugal.

[RVN]

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004410108,00.jpg

Heinze on the shelf

By ANDREW DILLON

GABRIEL HEINZE fears the cold shoulder now he is back at Manchester United.

But the Argentinian believes boss Alex Ferguson should be chuffed at the left-back’s Olympic Games success.

Heinze has finally arrived in England but is yet to train with United after moving from Paris St Germain in the summer.

Impatient Fergie is fuming at being forced to wait around for his £6.9million new-boy to actually be available.

And Heinze admitted: “Things haven't started the way they should have done but I’m sure they’ll change.

“My situation isn’t easy. The directors are a bit annoyed. But I always did what I felt was correct.

“United will be proud to have a gold medal winner in the squad. My Argentina team will go down in the record books.

“I didn’t speak much to the staff when I was in England — there weren’t any hugs going around. I was congratulated on the medal but the conversation was normal, as you would expect.”

Argentina beat fellow South Americans Paraguay 1-0 to take Olympic gold.

But Ferguson is much more concerned about having his squad at full strength for the Premiership season.

He previously claimed he would have to rest Portuguese winger Cristiano Ronaldo for two months after the Athens Games.

But Portugal were knocked out of the tournament early on and Ronaldo missed only the first week of the season.

Heinze, 26, flew home to Buenos Aires for a brief holiday to see his family following Argentina’s first Olympic soccer win.

Now he has arrived in Manchester, where United have made a stuttering start to the season.

Fergie’s men have taken just five points from four games and are already SEVEN points behind Arsenal and Chelsea.

Heinze has no regrets, though. He said: “Some people say I did the right thing, others say I didn't. But I'm never going to say ‘no’ to Argentina. There won’t be any kind of reprisal because I didn’t do anything wrong.

“I’m going to put my life on the line for United. I deny I have a bad relationship with them — I can’t wait to play for them.

“I want to respond to what has happened through effort on the pitch. I’m going to show I can shine in the Premiership.

“I know about United’s start to the season. They are my new team and I know everything about them. I kept up to date at an internet cafe in Athens.

“It’s been a tough beginning but there’s too far to go to jump to any conclusions.

“United are an extraordinary team and will raise themselves. We will fight back from behind to put pressure on Arsenal and Chelsea.”

While Heinze has finally turned up, United are back at loggerheads with Portugal over Ronaldo.

The winger, 19, has a hernia problem and United fear he may need surgery if he plays in Portugal’s World Cup qualifiers against Latvia on Saturday and Estonia on Wednesday.

United No 2 Carlos Queiroz, a former Portugal coach, is trying to persuade national boss Luiz Felipe Scolari to abandon plans to play Ronaldo and send him back to Manchester.

Queiroz declared: “We have a duty to defend our players’ interests and a responsibility to millions of fans.

“Clinically, we can’t say he is unable to play but Ronaldo has been complaining about some discomfort and he has a problem we know could develop into something significant if we are not careful.”

Portugal team doctor Henrique Jones confirmed Ronaldo was a potential injury concern. But he said: “I’m sure he will be available to play in the two internationals.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2004410302,00.html

[Ronaldo7]

check out this article before euro 2004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3665965.stm

If you can play with a knock for your club, you can do it for your country."

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by wadeva_lah
think against bolton we wud have a chance of winning. as long as alan smith plays. :D
against liverpool if we have rio, ruud and rooney then wud be :eek:

I doubt SAF will inject Rio into the Pool match, a player whom missed 9 months of match practice is too big a gamble..

[RVN]

WAYNE ROONEY believes it will be harder to hold down a place with new club Manchester United than with England.

Since making his international debut 18 months ago, Rooney has established himself as an automatic choice up front for England and was the country's star player at Euro 2004.

But the £30million teenage striker admitted he faces an even bigger challenge to hold down a place at United with competition from Ruud van Nistelrooy, Alan Smith and Louis Saha.

"This will be the biggest battle I have ever faced," said Rooney. "It's going to be tough because Ruud, Alan and Louis are all top players.

"It will be difficult to get in and difficult to keep your place as well. If you have one bad game you could be out. You have to be on top of your game.

"I think it will be more difficult holding on to your place possibly than for England.

"With England you are only playing once a month, if that, but here at United it will be non-stop. You can't afford to let your form slip.

"With four international strikers here fighting for two places you have to take your chance when it comes along.

"I know the United fans are going to be expecting a lot from me. But I believe I am capable of giving them what they want.

"I don't have any fears about the challenge. Playing for England has helped me to cope with all this. The pressures are similar."

Rooney's new strike partners all started their United careers with debut goals in competitive matches and the 18-year-old former Everton star hopes he can do the same.

A scan on Rooney's broken foot yesterday revealed the fracture has healed, leaving him on course to make his United debut against Liverpool at Old Trafford on September 20, the same day as van Nistelrooy is scheduled to return from injury and Rio Ferdinand is free of suspension.

"If I could score a goal in my first few games then I think that would help me settle a lot," said Rooney.

"Once you get your first goal it takes a little bit of the pressure off you. I experienced that with Everton and England. My confidence built up and you want to score every day after that.

"I know everyone will judge me on my goals, but I like to link up, bring players into the game and set them up.

"There is a lot to my game other than scoring goals but I want to get as many as I can."

Rooney has been welcomed to United by fellow teenager Cristiano Ronaldo, who has forgiven his new team-mate for a tackle which could have broken the Portuguese winger's leg. Rooney was lucky to stay on the pitch during Everton's trip to Old Trafford on Boxing Day last year after launching himself at Ronaldo with a wild lunge that earned him a booking.

But Ronaldo, 19, insisted there were no hard feelings and looked forward to linking up with Rooney.

"I remember that tackle very well," said Ronaldo. "But these things happen in football and I have no negative feelings towards Wayne.

"He is a great player and I can't wait to start playing with him."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/sporttop/tm_objectid=14599044%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=football%2d%2dit%2dll%2dbe%2deasier%2dto%2dget%2din%2dthe%2dengland%2dside%2dthan%2dto%2dbe%2dpicked%2dfor%2dunited-name_page.html

[Yellowfin]

Just wish to ask, anyone can access Redcafe forum.

I can't seem to access it and my user name or password seem to be not registered.

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by Yellowfin
Just wish to ask, anyone can access Redcafe forum.

I can't seem to access it and my user name or password seem to be not registered.

wanna ask this question too . can't view the forum anymore and registration has been disabled by the administrator.:rolleyes:

[RVN]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7


wanna ask this question too . can't view the forum anymore and registration has been disabled by the administrator.:rolleyes:

Join this forum lah. http://www.manutdchat.com/forums

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by Yellowfin
Just wish to ask, anyone can access Redcafe forum.

I can't seem to access it and my user name or password seem to be not registered.

nop...down for at least 4-5days liao...maybe kana hack by arsenal fans...:angel:

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by guoquanyap


nop...down for at least 4-5days liao...maybe kana hack by arsenal fans...:angel:

:laugh: :laugh:

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
check out this article before euro 2004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3665965.stm




Ermm, yup, I read this article b4 but what does this got to do with current problem we are having now?


Regards,
O'

[vivre]

Originally posted by usjag_18



Ermm, yup, I read this article b4 but what does this got to do with current problem we are having now?


Regards,
O'


"If you can play with a knock for your club, you can do it for your country"

This was what Scolari said!!! So I think there's little chance of Ronaldo being excluded from the Portugal squad.

[greycat87]

Originally posted by vivre



"If you can play with a knock for your club, you can do it for your country"

This was what Scolari said!!! So I think there's little chance of Ronaldo being excluded from the Portugal squad.

:mad:

[Ronaldo7]

Title may be beyond us already - Rooney

Manchester United new-boy Wayne Rooney admits he might not end his first season at Old Trafford with a championship medal.

The 18-year-old, who completed his £27m move to United on Tuesday, is relishing the prospect of contesting the major honours with his new club as they renew their battle with champions Arsenal and big-spending Chelsea.

However, he has hinted that, after a start to the season which sees United ninth in the table and seven points adrift of the top two already, the title might be beyond them already.

"We've got some good young players at the club and providing we can all grow together in the team, I think we'll eventually come good again,'' Rooney told the club's official website.

"It's a big challenge for us and we might not win the league this season; it might take two or three years. But I really think we're capable of matching both Arsenal and Chelsea.'

[RVN]

Rooney is just being realistic. :(

However that doesn't mean we should gave up. We have to start a winning streak though and hope arse and chel$ki slip up soon. :)

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
Title may be beyond us already - Rooney

Manchester United new-boy Wayne Rooney admits he might not end his first season at Old Trafford with a championship medal.

The 18-year-old, who completed his £27m move to United on Tuesday, is relishing the prospect of contesting the major honours with his new club as they renew their battle with champions Arsenal and big-spending Chelsea.

However, he has hinted that, after a start to the season which sees United ninth in the table and seven points adrift of the top two already, the title might be beyond them already.

"We've got some good young players at the club and providing we can all grow together in the team, I think we'll eventually come good again,'' Rooney told the club's official website.

"It's a big challenge for us and we might not win the league this season; it might take two or three years. But I really think we're capable of matching both Arsenal and Chelsea.'

Somewhat true. But you never know. For the first time, the Crown seems to be between Arsenal and Chelsea.:alien:

[kengbeng]

On current form, we're not good enough. :(
I hope we can pick ourselves up with a series of wins, before we can talk about being title contenders.

[AhHuat]

yea considering arsenal free scoring abilities...and chelsea humji style of playing.....things looked bleak for manutd....:(

[GuStA13]

Originally posted by AhHuat
chelsea humji style of playing :mad: :(

[pale]

Originally posted by GuStA13
:mad: :(


U :mad: because someone say chelsea humji.

:( becoz u know it's true.

=p

[RVN]

Originally posted by pale



U :mad: because someone say chelsea humji.

:( becoz u know it's true.

=p

:laugh: =p

[RuMmYtUb]

chelski :yawn:

playing like **** and still getting 3 points... that's even better than arsenal..

[RVN]

ronaldo score for portugal and set up the other in a 2-0 win over latvia. :)

[greycat87]

Originally posted by RVN
ronaldo score for portugal and set up the other in a 2-0 win over latvia. :)

Afraid he's going to get burned out...

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by greycat87


Afraid he's going to get burned out...

rest him against bolton and play him against liverpool :evil:

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by RVN
Rooney is just being realistic. :(

However that doesn't mean we should gave up. We have to start a winning streak though and hope arse and chel$ki slip up soon. :)

I agreed. Rooney is just being realistic. However, we should not give up. He's still new to MAN UTD. When he stay long enough like R.Giggs, P.Scholes, O.Solskjaer and Nevilles bros, he will fight the true spirits like a DEVIL, a REAL, RED DEVIL!


Rgds,
O'

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by pale



U :mad: because someone say chelsea humji.

:( becoz u know it's true.

=p


:laugh: ;)

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by greycat87


Afraid he's going to get burned out...

True, but he's still young, I guess can rest him a couple of games, then see what will happen. But what worries me is the injury he got currently. Those are the things will destroy a player's chance to play soccer. I hope that Portugal will leave him alone for awhile.

Rgds,
O'

[JirQUEST]

dunno what u guys so worried about.... bad start != bad end ;)

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
dunno what u guys so worried about.... bad start != bad end ;)

if (badstart >= 7pts)
{
manutd = notitle;
}

else
{
manutd = champion;
}

:cool:

[AhGoh]

Originally posted by AhHuat


if (badstart >= 7pts)
{
manutd = notitle;
}

else
{
manutd = champion;
}

:cool: :laugh:

[Alienz]

Originally posted by AhHuat


if (badstart >= 7pts)
{
manutd = notitle;
}

else
{
manutd = champion;
}

:cool:
:laugh: :laugh:

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
dunno what u guys so worried about.... bad start != bad end ;)


Originally posted by AhHuat


if (badstart >= 7pts)
{
manutd = notitle;
}

else
{
manutd = champion;
}

:cool:


:laugh: :laugh: WAHAHAA.... Indeed, bad start is no good, but worrying is also pointless, so both of you are right 50-50. And it's a good programming section. hehehee....=p

[Alienz]

Originally posted by usjag_18



:laugh: :laugh: WAHAHAA.... Indeed, bad start is no good, but worrying is also pointless, so both of you are right 50-50. And it's a good programming section. hehehee....=p
lolx.... the code should nested more if....else statement for Arsenal or Chelsea so that if there loose pts then United will have the chance to win title :laugh:

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by Alienz

lolx.... the code should nested more if....else statement for Arsenal or Chelsea so that if there loose pts then United will have the chance to win title :laugh:


wahahaa..... :laugh: still, let's cheer for Man Utd next game!

Btw, ESPN really not showing EPL anymore?

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by usjag_18



wahahaa..... :laugh: still, let's cheer for Man Utd next game!

Btw, ESPN really not showing EPL anymore?

are u based in singapore?? anyway the espen and starhub solve liao...showin liao but dunno whether how much they gng to increase the price.....

[JirQUEST]

who thinks we can beat bolton?

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
who thinks we can beat bolton?

manu home ah? bolton whack liverpool....
i think it will be a close game :cool:

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by AhHuat


manu home ah? bolton whack liverpool....
i think it will be a close game :cool:

bolton home...very very tough....bolton the form team right now u but we cant afford to draw or even lose right now....:cool:

[AhHuat]

bolton home very strong...jialak liao man
god bless manutd this time. one more lose....and we know wat happen soon :cool:

[Alienz]

Man Utd boss: Rooney our new Cantona

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says new signing Wayne Rooney can make as big an impact at Old Trafford as Eric Cantona.

"I think he can make the same impact here as Eric Cantona," Ferguson said. "Eric was different because he came when we hadn't won the League for a long time. There was a different emphasis, but he was the man of his moment, a very important moment.

"Now we have won some titles and we're trying to step up some notches, trying to get a better level of play, and when a player of Rooney's class comes along you have to make a move for him.

"This club has always had the best players, people who entertain, thrill and excite. But they're also players with great courage, that was the making of the Laws, the Charltons and the Bests, they didn't just have the ability to play, they had the courage to do it."


source (http://www.tribalfootball.com/september/englishnews5050904.html)

[RVN]

Bolton, our bogey team like liverpool, I pray we win both matches. :angel:

[padixiong]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
who thinks we can beat bolton?

100% BEAT bolton !!

[RVN]

Keane return sooner than expected. :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/3629132.stm

[Thinker]

Clip of Rossi in action:

http://www.paranoia.tuug.fi/~ml/sa/Rossi-Goal.mpa

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by Thinker
Clip of Rossi in action:

http://www.paranoia.tuug.fi/~ml/sa/Rossi-Goal.mpa

awsome...:o

[greycat87]

Bolten has always been our jinx team

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by guoquanyap


are u based in singapore?? anyway the espen and starhub solve liao...showin liao but dunno whether how much they gng to increase the price.....

I am based in SG, but not currently. Because I am currently studying in Perth. That's why I am asking you.


Originally posted by Thinker
Clip of Rossi in action:

http://www.paranoia.tuug.fi/~ml/sa/Rossi-Goal.mpa

Can this clip saved? I can't seem to access the website.




Rgds,
O'

[orca_sea]

Originally posted by greycat87
Bolten has always been our jinx team

Iz it? i thgt iz Soton Saint - Southhampton has been tat.. correct mi if i'm wrong :confused:

[Thinker]

Originally posted by usjag_18


Rgds,
O'

just click on the file, and it should give you an option to save.

[stam]

O`Shea Just injured himself in the international match!! :rolleyes: injuries again...

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by orca_sea


Iz it? i thgt iz Soton Saint - Southhampton has been tat.. correct mi if i'm wrong :confused:

Middlesborough la. Always do well against us.:mad:

[Raul7]

Originally posted by MatrixFanatic


Middlesborough la. Always do well against us.:mad:

ya..is true...maybe is steve factor.maybe he know sir alex too well liao.hahaha:D

[JirQUEST]

Originally posted by Thinker
Clip of Rossi in action:

http://www.paranoia.tuug.fi/~ml/sa/Rossi-Goal.mpa

he is good! :eek:

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by JirQUEST


he is good! :eek:

That one reserves or under 19 league?

[Raul7]

Originally posted by JirQUEST


he is good! :eek:

what is his full name?

[RVN]

Originally posted by stam
O`Shea Just injured himself in the international match!! :rolleyes: injuries again...

****. :mad:
Hope it isn't serious.

Maybe chance for Heinze to play, but if he is tired, then Spector.

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by raul7


what is his full name?

Giuseppe Rossi. But I think real full name is longer than that.:o

[padixiong]

Originally posted by stam
O`Shea Just injured himself in the international match!! :rolleyes: injuries again... not serious one la !! !

[Raul7]

Originally posted by MatrixFanatic


Giuseppe Rossi. But I think real full name is longer than that.:o

i see.tks man.:)

[RVN]

WITH Wayne Rooney in the bag and Cristiano Ronaldo back in the fold, Manchester United are already keeping a careful eye on another teen sensation.

Sixteen-year-old Italian kid Giuseppe Rossi has made a big impact in the junior ranks at Old Trafford following his low-key transfer from Parma in the summer.

And after netting three goals in two games for the under-18 side and then smashing in a wonder goal for the junior reserve side against Rochdale last week, Rossi has staff and teammates raving.

Now United stalwart Arthur Albiston believes that Rossi, whose name literally translates as "Joe the Red", could be pushing for a place in the first team by the end of this season.

His goal for the reserves was a masterpiece. Picking the ball up deep, he ran at the Rochdale defence, swerved to the right across the edge of the 18-yard box and beat one defender with a bewildering switch of feet.

Taking it wide of the last defender, he beat the man with a drag of the left foot and crashed an unstoppable shot in off the near post. Albiston has seen clips of Rossi in action and says: "He is a box of tricks, a real bundle of energy.

"He doesn't look the tallest player, but he has a low centre of gravity and great control with both feet. It doesn't matter if you are slow, when you have that low centre of gravity and can get away from people quite quickly.

"He looks an exciting prospect. The goal he scored for the reserves, the defenders didn't know what to do - he teased them in and finished it like Ole Solskjaer. You expected him to cross and he fired it in off the post. It wasn't a bad strike for his supposedly weaker right foot."

Rossi's teammates in the junior sides say he is the best finisher they have ever seen and Albiston adds: "When you get praise from your teammates, it doesn't come any higher. The lad hasn't been at the club long and has already made a big impression.

"Hopefully he's another one who might be getting a sniff of first-team action later in the season."

Rossi almost slipped in through the back door in the summer, amid the arrivals of Alan Smith for £6million and Gabriel Heinze for £6.9million.

The American-born player can do a job as a striker or an attacking midfielder and is already established as an Italian under-19 international.

Rossi arrived as part of United's cosmopolitan youth development rogramme which last season brought in German midfielder Markus Neumayr, American pair Kenny Cooper and Jonathan Spector, Belgian defender Floribert Ngalula and Finnish forward Jami Puustinen.

That programme has been pushed to a new level by the capture of Rossi, of promising young Spanish defender Gerard Pique from Barcelona and of 15-year-old Cologne goalkeeper Ron-Robert Zieler last month - three players from the three strongest Continental leagues.

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/129/129506_joe_the_red_set_to_make_a_mark.html

[Ch3tah_39]

Rossi ,C.ronaldo, rooney, Gerard Pique
upcoming star.. woah promising sial...:D

[Ronaldo7]

exciting times ahead :cool:

[RVN]

Man Utd keeping tabs on Roma sensation De Rossi
tribalfootball.com - September 6, 2004

Manchester United are among Europe's bigger clubs to be tracking AS Roma winger Daniele De Rossi.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had De Rossi, along with several of his Italian teammates, watched at the Athens Games and has been trailing the youngster for 18 months.

After missing out on Damien Duff and Arjen Robben to Chelsea over the past year, Ferguson remains determined to land an exciting, young left-sided winger and De Rossi fits the bill.

United are aware that AS Roma's finances mean they will struggle to hold onto any of their stars if the right offer arrives.

Ferguson's brother, Martin, has watched De Rossi several times over the past year and Sir Alex is seriously considering the youngster as Ryan Giggs' long-term successor.


hahaha, like that we got 2 rossi. :laugh:

[greycat87]

Originally posted by RVN
Man Utd keeping tabs on Roma sensation De Rossi
tribalfootball.com - September 6, 2004

Manchester United are among Europe's bigger clubs to be tracking AS Roma winger Daniele De Rossi.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had De Rossi, along with several of his Italian teammates, watched at the Athens Games and has been trailing the youngster for 18 months.

After missing out on Damien Duff and Arjen Robben to Chelsea over the past year, Ferguson remains determined to land an exciting, young left-sided winger and De Rossi fits the bill.

United are aware that AS Roma's finances mean they will struggle to hold onto any of their stars if the right offer arrives.

Ferguson's brother, Martin, has watched De Rossi several times over the past year and Sir Alex is seriously considering the youngster as Ryan Giggs' long-term successor.


hahaha, like that we got 2 rossi. :laugh:

Roma's De rossi is much better than our Rossi imo.

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by RVN
Man Utd keeping tabs on Roma sensation De Rossi
tribalfootball.com - September 6, 2004

Manchester United are among Europe's bigger clubs to be tracking AS Roma winger Daniele De Rossi.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had De Rossi, along with several of his Italian teammates, watched at the Athens Games and has been trailing the youngster for 18 months.

After missing out on Damien Duff and Arjen Robben to Chelsea over the past year, Ferguson remains determined to land an exciting, young left-sided winger and De Rossi fits the bill.

United are aware that AS Roma's finances mean they will struggle to hold onto any of their stars if the right offer arrives.

Ferguson's brother, Martin, has watched De Rossi several times over the past year and Sir Alex is seriously considering the youngster as Ryan Giggs' long-term successor.


hahaha, like that we got 2 rossi. :laugh:

He's a winger? I thought he plays in central.

[AhHuat]

yes get all the great youngster.....get tevez....d'alessandro....robinho....etc....:cool:

[guoquanyap]

Rossi goal picking the ball up deep, he ran at the Rochdale defence, swerved to the right across the edge of the 18-yard box and beat one defender with a bewildering switch of feet.....makes him look similar to tevez....

both are not that tall and has low centre of gravity....

[Alienz]

Here is the Rossi Goal Clip (http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/rossigoal.mpa) against Rochdale

:)

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by RVN
Man Utd keeping tabs on Roma sensation De Rossi
tribalfootball.com - September 6, 2004

Manchester United are among Europe's bigger clubs to be tracking AS Roma winger Daniele De Rossi.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had De Rossi, along with several of his Italian teammates, watched at the Athens Games and has been trailing the youngster for 18 months.

After missing out on Damien Duff and Arjen Robben to Chelsea over the past year, Ferguson remains determined to land an exciting, young left-sided winger and De Rossi fits the bill.

United are aware that AS Roma's finances mean they will struggle to hold onto any of their stars if the right offer arrives.

Ferguson's brother, Martin, has watched De Rossi several times over the past year and Sir Alex is seriously considering the youngster as Ryan Giggs' long-term successor.


hahaha, like that we got 2 rossi. :laugh:

but then again it's from tribal football :rolleyes:

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by Alienz
Here is the Rossi Goal Clip (http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/rossigoal.mpa) against Rochdale

:)

nice goal :eek:

[Ronaldo7]

Howard released from U.S. camp
NEW YORK, Sept 6 (Reuters) - Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard has been released from the U.S. national team ahead of Wednesday's World Cup qualifier against Panama in Panama City.
Howard, who played in the United States' 2-0 victory against El Salvador in a CONCACAF Group A qualifier on Saturday, has returned to England, U.S. officials said during the team's training session on Monday.
New York/New Jersey goalkeeper Johnnie Walker will be the second choice keeper after Kasey Keller for the game against Panama.
The U.S. lead their group with four points from two games followed by El Salvador and Panama, who have three each.

[Ch3tah_39]

Originally posted by Alienz
Here is the Rossi Goal Clip (http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/rossigoal.mpa) against Rochdale

:)

very nice sial la:)

[Raul7]

Originally posted by Ch3tah_39


very nice sial la:)

powerful goal i can say.

[RVN]

Our players that have been selected to play in the Champions League. :)

http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/UCL/Clubs/Club=52682/index.html
Our selection for the Champions League

Goalkeepers
1 - Tim Howard 06.03.1979 USA
13 - Roy Carroll 30.09.1977 NIR
35 - Ricardo López 30.12.1971 ESP
Defenders
2 - Gary Neville 18.02.1975 ENG
3 - Phil Neville 21.01.1977 ENG
4 - Gabriel Iván Heinze 19.04.1978 ARG
5 - Rio Ferdinand 07.11.1978 ENG
6 - Wes Brown 13.10.1979 ENG
22 - John O'Shea 30.04.1981 IRL
27 - Mikaël Silvestre 09.08.1977 FRA
28 - Gerard Piqué Bernabeu 02.02.1987 ESP
29 - Jonathan Michael Paul Spector 01.03.1986 USA
Midfielders
15 - José Kléberson 19.06.1979 BRA
16 - Roy Keane 10.08.1971 IRL
17 - Liam Miller 13.02.1981 IRL
18 - Paul Scholes 16.11.1974 ENG
19 - Eric Djemba-Djemba 04.05.1981 CMR
23 - Kieran Richardson 21.10.1984 ENG
24 - Darren Fletcher 01.02.1984 SCO
25 - Quinton Fortune 21.05.1977 RSA
33 - Chris Eagles 19.11.1985 ENG
Forwards
7 - Cristiano Ronaldo 05.02.1985 POR
8 - Wayne Rooney 24.10.1985 ENG
9 - Louis Saha 08.08.1978 FRA
10 - Ruud van Nistelrooij 01.07.1976 HOL
11 - Ryan Giggs 29.11.1973 WAL
12 - David Bellion 27.11.1982 FRA
14 - Alan Smith 28.10.1980 ENG

[MatrixFanatic]

:o Pique in!!!

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by MatrixFanatic
:o Pique in!!!

hard to see him in action unless we hav already Q...

[guoquanyap]

still remember we lost 3-1 away to hafia and 2-0 to deport when we field a weaken side.....:cool:

[asantosa]

Our players that have been selected to play in the Champions League.

So many players registered?
I thought only 25 players can be registered :confused:

[stam]

i think young players under age not counted...

[RVN]

Originally posted by asantosa


So many players registered?
I thought only 25 players can be registered :confused:

There no limit to how many players we selected for CL. Beside you need a big squad especially when injuries or suspension occur. ;)

[Ch3tah_39]

Originally posted by stam
i think young players under age not counted...

i tink so..:confused:

[RVN]

O'Shea out for a fortnight which is 2 weeks. :mad:

Sir Alex Ferguson faces an anxious wait for his nine senior players to return from international duty - with John O'Shea the latest casualty.

O'Shea has been excluded from Republic of Ireland's plans for their World Cup qualifier in Switzerland and looks as though he will be sidelined for at least a fortnight after picking up a torn thigh muscle during the win over Cyprus on Saturday.

It is the latest blow for Sir Alex Ferguson who has had to endure a string of setbacks since pre-season training began, adding weight to his claims that it will be October before the fans see a full-strength side in action.

O'Shea was expected to return to United's training headquarters on Tuesday where he will continue to have treatment.

His absence this weekend could force the United boss to turn to Argentina defender Gabriel Heinze who checked in at Old Trafford on Monday - the first time he has been to Manchester since his transfer from Paris Saint-Germain in June.

Ferguson had planned to give Heinze a short break before starting his Premiership career but appears to have shelved those plans after his summer of international action.

Heinze could find himself facing Bolton at the Reebok on Saturday, Lyon in the Champions League next Wednesday and Liverpool on Monday week - quite an introduction for the new-boy.

http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,884676,00.html

[Ch3tah_39]

woah! o'shea suay sial la:(
but lucky onli 2 wks not very long

[Ronaldo7]

but maybe can see heinze in action for the first time liao

[Alienz]

Originally posted by Ch3tah_39


very nice sial la:)
Rossi look abit like Owen :cool:

[Alienz]

I ALMOST SIGNED FOR UNITED - SOLARI


Real Madrid midfielder Santiago Solari claims he almost signed for Manchester United over the summer.

The Argentinian was considering a move to Old Trafford, where he would have been re-united with former Bernabeu boss Carlos Queiroz, until new Madrid coach Jose Antonio Camacho assured him of his value to the Spaniards.

The tell-tale sign that Solari would have a role to play for Madrid came when Camacho used him as a substitute in the Champions League qualifier against Wisla Krakow on August 25.

"It is true that Manchester United were interested in me and there was I chance I would leave," Solari told Spanish newspaper Marca.

"However, by playing me for 10 minutes against Wisla, Camacho and the club showed that I am still important to Real Madrid."

His appearance against the Poles meant that Solari would be cup-tied for the rest of the season, and with the transfer window having since slammed shut he is fully committed to Madrid for now.

That allegiance could be tested over the coming months, however, with Solari's contract due to expire next summer.

He is waiting for a new contract offer, and added: "We have to take things slowly and everything will happen at the right time."


sportinglife.com

[RVN]

Originally posted by Alienz

Rossi look abit like Owen :cool:

yeah, he does. :eek:

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/rossigoal.jpg

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
but maybe can see heinze in action for the first time liao

Then central who play? Me don want Roy Keane to play there!!! He should play he midfield. I think Spector should play there what you all think?:angel:

[guoquanyap]

Heinze Arrives In Manchester

Gabriel Heinze arrived at Manchester United's training ground on Tuesday - three months after he signed for the Reds from Paris Saint Germain.

The £6.9million signing has had a busy summer schedule - he helped Argentina to the Copa America final, where they lost to Brazil.

And he was one of Argentina's three permitted over-23 players in the Olympic games in Athens, where they won Olympic Gold.

Heinze's international commitments have meant he is yet to kick a ball for United, and his contact with manager Sir Alex Ferguson had been limited to telephone conversation.

Fergie sees the tough-tackling defender as United's left-back for the season.

However, he arrived at Carrington on Tuesday morning and pulled on a United shirt for the first time.

Heinze said recently: "My situation isn't easy. [United's] directors are a bit annoyed, but I always did what I felt was correct and United will be proud to have a gold medal winner in the squad.

"Some people say I did the right thing, others say I didn't. But I'm never going to say 'no' to Argentina.

"I deny I have a bad relationship with them [United]. I want to respond to what has happened through my efforts on the pitch. I'm going to show I can shine in the Premiership.

"I can't wait to play for United," he added.

finally arrived....

play heniz and sliv in the centre....spector left-back

[LKY156]

Originally posted by Ch3tah_39
woah! o'shea suay sial la:(
but lucky onli 2 wks not very long
O'Shea has been yucky, together with the error prone Silvestre. So it might be blessing in disguise for Man Utd. The replacement might prove to be more effective.:rolleyes:

[RuMmYtUb]

Kinz let Heinze play!!!

[Ch3tah_39]

Originally posted by Alienz

Rossi look abit like Owen :cool:

ya... :D

[Alienz]

Howard given US release


MANCHESTER United goalkeeper Tim Howard has been released from international duty by United States coach Bruce Arena ahead of tomorrow night's match against Panama.

The 25-year-old played in Saturday's 2-0 victory against El Salvador but, with Arena opting to shuffle his squad, Tottenham's Kasey Keller will replace Howard for the team's second World Cup qualifier in five days.

Howard has been allowed to fly back to England, and Metrostars goalkeeper Jonny Walker has filled his place in the squad.

The news is sure to be welcomed by United boss Sir Alex Ferguson who will have Howard, ever-present so far this season, on board for the rest of the week.

United face a tricky Premiership trip to third-placed neighbours Bolton on Saturday.


source (http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/129/129689_howard_given_us_release.html)

[RVN]

Originally posted by RuMmYtUb
Kinz let Heinze play!!!

He is wearing Veron number 4 shirt.

http://tinyurl.com/5g8hm

[Raul7]

Originally posted by RVN


He is wearing Veron number 4 shirt.

http://tinyurl.com/5g8hm

hope he wun be a flop in man utd.his tackling abit tough,might give the oppsite team a penalty.:eek:

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by raul7


hope he wun be a flop in man utd.his tackling abit tough,might give the oppsite team a penalty.:eek:

he is from argentina mah :)

[Ch3tah_39]

Originally posted by raul7


hope he wun be a flop in man utd.his tackling abit tough,might give the oppsite team a penalty.:eek:

haha...

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by RVN


yeah, he does. :eek:

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/rossigoal.jpg

Whoa, are U sure that's our ROSSI, looks almost like Owen. Scary sia. Thought my eyes playing trick on me....

Maybe a BRIGHT star in the future is already shone on ROSSI.


Regards,
O'

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by usjag_18


Whoa, are U sure that's our ROSSI, looks almost like Owen. Scary sia. Thought my eyes playing trick on me....

Maybe a BRIGHT star in the future is already shone on ROSSI.


Regards,
O'

yup that 16 yr old rossi

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by raul7


hope he wun be a flop in man utd.his tackling abit tough,might give the oppsite team a penalty.:eek:


I dun think so, dun forget, EPL is one of the roughest league in the Europe, so let's not get worry for nothing... As long as he tackle @ the right time and right place, nothing will be against us.
However, this season, a lot referees seems to go against us. Very fed up.....

[PeterPan]

Originally posted by RVN


There no limit to how many players we selected for CL. Beside you need a big squad especially when injuries or suspension occur. ;)



no lah.....those 17 and below don't need to register because they still on youth contract, so they can play CL anytime their manager wants them.

[vivre]

Originally posted by raul7
http://tinyurl.com/5g8hm

Erm.... Heinze looks kina FAT... :p

[RuMmYtUb]

omg he looks tough! :eek:

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by vivre


Erm.... Heinze looks kina FAT... :p

Height:1.78m
Weight: 72.00kg



:rolleyes:

[vivre]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7


Height:1.78m
Weight: 72.00kg



:rolleyes:


Well from the pic above, he doesn't look like he's 1.78m & 72kg... Maybe the shirt is too big.....

[greycat87]

Why Heinze wear his pants so high and tuck in so much? Look very toot :laugh:

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by greycat87
Why Heinze wear his pants so high and tuck in so much? Look very toot :laugh:

:laugh:

That pic on first look majiam Gary Neville.

[kangaroobabe]

Originally posted by greycat87
Why Heinze wear his pants so high and tuck in so much? Look very toot :laugh:
HAHA!!! :laugh: :laugh: totally agree...

[ragnarok95]

who care how he look, can perform can liao..

[vivre]

Originally posted by ragnarok95
who care how he look, can perform can liao..

Cool Sig....

btw, U Creative fan?? :laugh: =p :laugh:

[ragnarok95]

no...

[guoquanyap]

though henize is only 1.78....he can jump really high man...watch him in action a couple of times...he's gd.....

[orca_sea]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
though henize is only 1.78....he can jump really high man...watch him in action a couple of times...he's gd.....

Like Gary oreadi lor hahaha juz tat he play on the left :laugh:

[Alienz]

Originally posted by orca_sea


Like Gary oreadi lor hahaha juz tat he play on the left :laugh:
Can he make a long throw-in? Gary is good at this :D

[samwise]

saha substituted by cisse in 9min due to injury

g. neville taken out due to injury too.

long term or short term?

[RVN]

Originally posted by samwise
saha substituted by cisse in 9min due to injury

g. neville taken out due to injury too.

long term or short term?

don't know, i am not the physico, I just hope it isn't serious.

[cracker]

having watched the england-poland game,,,,gary nevile's injury didnt seem tat serious but then again we will never know the extent of the injury until the papers are out.

[guoquanyap]

ronaldo scored for portugal again...:eek:

[Ronaldo7]

with a header and 2 assists :eek:

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
with a header and 2 assists :eek:

He ki siao hong ah?:o

[ragnarok95]

he will only get better at man u...under SAF!

[stam]

Hope Ronaldo displays that kind of form for Man Utd...:)

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by samwise
saha substituted by cisse in 9min due to injury

g. neville taken out due to injury too.

long term or short term?

How these 2 players got injured?

[ragnarok95]

dun think its serious else SAF will blow his head off....the man u team we are looking now isn't the full one yet...if we lose these 2 players...i dun know wat to say liao...

[RVN]

Heinze to make his debut against bolton. G.Neville, Saha, O'Shea are all doubtful. :(

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=309551&cc=4716

Ronaldo has to be checked for fitness when he comes back and looks 50/50 whether we will risk him against bolton. Not a good way to be going into a tough match.

damm **** you Scolari. :mad:

http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,885529,00.html

[KongLanJiaoWei]

hey bro's where can i get authetic hm jersey cheapest?

beside i've decided to have cantona name printed behind to pay my homage to this french god

[greycat87]

Originally posted by KongLanJiaoWei
hey bro's where can i get authetic hm jersey cheapest?

beside i've decided to have cantona name printed behind to pay my homage to this french god

Queensway or Peninsular lor. But cheapest also $100+

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by stam
Hope Ronaldo displays that kind of form for Man Utd...:)

so far wat seen fr him is that tireness and fatigue so i am damn surprised to see him played SO well for his national team portugal.....hopefully it's not the case of preserve enengry when playing for club and give it all for his country.....

[MatrixFanatic]

Originally posted by guoquanyap


so far wat seen fr him is that tireness and fatigue so i am damn surprised to see him played SO well for his national team portugal....

I second that.

[KongLanJiaoWei]

Originally posted by greycat87


Queensway or Peninsular lor. But cheapest also $100+

how to differentiate between authetic and replica? dun wanna be con by rouge sellers:D

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by greycat87


Queensway or Peninsular lor. But cheapest also $100+

No lar, jersey alone only $80 - $85..

Printing of names then will add up to $100+

[usjag_18]

Do they sell those accessories too? I was wondering whether the shops selling those CL badges that sew onto the jerseys.

My friend got one from KL (he and the gf purposely joined the Man Utd supporters club in KL). They got all the accessories, a lot more than the merchandise over here. That's why I was wondering whether did they get the fake ones. Do U think we can request?


Regards,
O'

[Ronaldo7]

don't think they sell the the badge alone . you must buy jersey from them first in order to get the badge i think :rolleyes:

Originally posted by KongLanJiaoWei


how to differentiate between authetic and replica? dun wanna be con by rouge sellers:D

check for the life span label for the jersey ? :rolleyes:

[Ronaldo7]

Keane to get tough with youngsters

Roy Keane has warned Manchester United's youngsters to expect more tongue-lashings if they show any sign of letting their standards slip.

Keane famously launched a vicious verbal assault on some of the fledgling members of the Red Devils squad last season after claiming their attitude in training left plenty to be desired.

His outburst shocked most of the Irish midfielder's United team-mates, but not manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who backed his skipper's blistering attack.

Keane's warnings were proved to be correct as the Old Trafford outfit meekly surrendered their Premiership title to Arsenal more than a month before the season drew to a close.

With just five points from the opening four league matches of the current campaign, there is no clear sign that an improvement is imminent - and if Keane feels the problem again lies with the more inexperienced members of the United squad, their youth will not save them from their force of the Irishman's temper.

"There are a lot of people, at this club and others, who like to wrap the young lads in cotton wool,'' Keane told the official Manchester United magazine.

"That's all well and good but they need to be taught properly. I sometimes worry that I go over the top but they need to be told because it is such a short career.

"With some young players I have seen over the years, it seems to go in one ear and out the other, so you need to grab hold of them and say 'Look, you need to listen'.

"That's what players used to do with me - tough love, or whatever you want to call it.''

that's the way :evil:

[MatrixFanatic]

Honestly, if we lose to bolton or DRAW against them.:alien:

[majongfreak]

Wondering how come Ryan Giggs was not playing for Wales against N. Ireland?? Is he injured or wat??? Looks like the injury problems is still mounting for them......... really wonder whether they can defeat the in form Bolton tmw. Really cannot afford to drop any more pts liao.............

[RVN]

Originally posted by majongfreak
Wondering how come Ryan Giggs was not playing for Wales against N. Ireland?? Is he injured or wat??? Looks like the injury problems is still mounting for them......... really wonder whether they can defeat the in form Bolton tmw. Really cannot afford to drop any more pts liao.............

No, Giggs was suspended.

As far as I am concerned, feck all those international games, I hate when our players come back with injuries and become unavailable for us when we are in need of them. :mad:

We desperately need Rooney and Ruud to return soon to give us firepower upfront, now with Saha injury, we have on to rely on Smith with Scholes supporting him upfront, hardly ideal for us. :mad:

[kangaroobabe]

Originally posted by RVN


No, Giggs was suspended.

As far as I am concerned, feck all those international games, I hate when our players come back with injuries and become unavailable for us when we are in need of them. :mad:

We desperately need Rooney and Ruud to return soon to give us firepower upfront, now with Saha injury, we have on to rely on Smith with Scholes supporting him upfront, hardly ideal for us. :mad:

yup we need em back... or not die liao:(

[RVN]

http://tinyurl.com/5pquu

Gabriel Heinze is set to make a sooner-than-expected start for United on Saturday, while Ruud van Nistelrooy could make the bench.

Heinze arrived in Manchester on Tuesday, three months after signing for the Reds, and is odds on to be thrown in at the deep end on Saturday as Gary Neville is a serious doubt and Wes Brown, Quinton Fortune, John O'Shea and the suspended Rio Ferdinand remain on the sidelines.

Sir Alex told ManUtd.com on Friday: "There is a big chance he will play now because Wes Brown hasn't had any football. With Gary [Neville] out and Quinton Fortune not fit yet, that leaves me with a problem. So I think there is every chance that Gabriel Heinze will play."

"There's a big chance Heinze will play. Ruud is very close. It's a major decision, I may put him on the bench."
Sir Alex Ferguson

Ruud van Nistelrooy, who has been out with a hernia injury, last played in United's Vodafone Cup win over PSV at the beginning of August. But he is set to make a return, most likely on the bench, against third-placed Bolton.

Of Wayne Rooney and van Nistelrooy's fitness, Fergie said: "They are both coming along fine. Obviously Wayne is not ready yet. Ruud is very, very close. It's a major decision for me, but I may put him on the bench on Saturday, that's probably the sensible thing.

"Ruud has done a lot of training over the last ten days, he has done all the work we have asked of him. He just needs to get back into playing football now."

John O'Shea, Gary Neville and Louis Saha all came back from the international break carrying injuries.

Sir Alex added: "Louis Saha is out for Saturday's game and it will be a race to get him fit for next Wednesday. There is a doubt there. Gary Neville is very doubtful for tomorrow, I don't think he'll make it. He should be ok for Wednesday.

"Ronaldo, Fletcher and Alan Smith, who wasn't playing, have all come back OK. Everyone else is fit."

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=103171&itype=466&icategoryid=120

[Alienz]

Rooney out for another three weeks

REDS star Wayne Rooney has been ruled out of action for at least three weeks, sparking fears he may miss England's World Cup qualifier against Wales on October 9.

Rooney completed his £27million switch from Everton to Manchester United last week in the belief he would be fit to face the Welsh as he continued his recovery from the broken foot he suffered during this summer's European Championships.

The 18-year-old had returned to training before quitting Goodison Park but, following a scan a week ago, Sir Alex Ferguson has now revealed he does not expect Rooney to be fit until United face Middlesbrough at Old Trafford on October 3.

That game is just six days before Sven-Goran Eriksson's side face the Welsh, part of a World Cup double-header that also includes an arduous trip to Azerbaijan.

Given Rooney's current injury problems, Ferguson would no doubt prefer the forward not to take the nine-hour flight into deepest Eastern Europe and there must be a possibility the most expensive teenager in football history will be held back for the visit to Birmingham on October 16 and miss the England games altogether.

"Wayne is coming along fine," said Ferguson. "But after the injury he has had, he is still working with the remedial department.

"He is training on his own at the moment and he should be ready in maybe three weeks."


source (http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/130/130053_rooney_out_for_another_three_weeks.html)

[guoquanyap]

looked like we wont see the R-R strike force as soon as we like....

[greycat87]

Guys lets flame this guy

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=11298322#post11298322

[RuMmYtUb]

:mad:
Damn lar this season, so many players tio injured... isit some jinx ?

And we didn't even win the Charity Shield to start with... :mad:

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by RuMmYtUb
:mad:
Damn lar this season, so many players tio injured... isit some jinx ?

And we didn't even win the Charity Shield to start with... :mad:

well it's football...fergie, players and the phyics jus need to keep working on it...we are Manchester United there is no excuses....

[RVN]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
looked like we wont see the R-R strike force as soon as we like....

Smith + Ruud combination won't be too bad.

[RVN]

"Louis is going to be out for the next two games anyway. He's had a recurrence of the injury he had.

"We played him against Everton and, of course, once he did that, France called him up and he got injured playing for France." reported an irate Sir Alex.

"I didn't think he was ready for international football, to be honest with you, but they said they had players injured, they called him up and he's got another injury."


Fergie seems well pissed off. :alien:

[ragnarok95]

i prefer ruud plus smith rather than ruud plus saha...

[usjag_18]

Originally posted by ragnarok95
i prefer ruud plus smith rather than ruud plus saha...

Hmmm... Since I never seen RUUD and SMITH partnership yet, so I don't know who do I preferred to be with who... Who knows, maybe we can see SAHA-SMITH or RUUD-ROONEY instead of RUUD-SAHA or RUUD-SMITH.

We should try different partnership. Choose the strongest.

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by usjag_18


Hmmm... Since I never seen RUUD and SMITH partnership yet, so I don't know who do I preferred to be with who... Who knows, maybe we can see SAHA-SMITH or RUUD-ROONEY instead of RUUD-SAHA or RUUD-SMITH.

We should try different partnership. Choose the strongest.

yea good to hav two group of strikers....play one group on different occasion.....our play will be quite unpredictable....but the midfield need to buck up....lack of creativity and power from them :cool:

[guoquanyap]

MANCHESTER United's stadium expansion plans have moved a step closer to fruition after they submitted a formal planning application to Trafford Council.

United intend to fill in both corners of the massive North Stand, which would add a further 7,500 seats, taking Old Trafford's capacity to 75,000, ensuring it maintains its position as the biggest club ground in Britain.

The move, likely to cost around £40million, could generate £7.5million a season and preparatory work, including moving gas and water pipes was already underway even before a feasibility study confirmed the financial merits of the idea.

United will now await the Council's decision, although it is believed to be a formality.

Once permission has been granted, the Red Devils board will decide whether to go ahead with the scheme prior to the main construction contracts being awarded early next year.


woot~ total capcity bring to 75 000....but i read somewhere that David Gill this will be the last expansion...cant bring to 100 000... :(

[RuMmYtUb]

I prefer Ruud, Smith and ROONEY!

3 prong attack :evil:

[stam]

Those 4 strikers are exciting, but right now only Smith is FULL FIT!!? :(

[RVN]

Originally posted by stam
Those 4 strikers are exciting, but right now only Smith is FULL FIT!!? :(

And Bellion. :rolleyes:

Ah well at least Ruud is close to return and be on the bench tomorrow.

[Alienz]

Ruud to return at Bolton

Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy could make a shock return to action during Saturday's Premiership visit to Bolton.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson revealed that the Dutchman, who is yet to feature for United this season after a hernia operation, could play some part at the Reebok Stadium.

But despite presiding over a squad decimated by injuries, Ferguson will resist the temptation to play Van Nistelrooy from the start.

The Red Devils boss is especially short of options in attack, with new-signing Wayne Rooney still recovering from his foot injury, while Louis Saha picked up an injury in midweek during France's 2-0 victory over the Faroe Islands.

"Wayne is not ready," said Ferguson, "He's training on his own with our remedial department. The injury he's had is still on the medical side, but he should be ready in maybe three weeks.

"But Ruud is getting along fine and is very close. It's a major decision and putting him on the bench tomorrow is maybe the sensible thing.

"He's done all of the training in the last 10 days and done everything I've asked of him. He just needs to get back into football now."

Ferguson may also be forced to hand Gabriel Heinze his debut at Bolton after the Scot was left counting the costs of the international hiatus.

In addition to Saha, defenders Gary Neville and John O'Shea picked up injuries during the international break and are doubtful for the Premiership trip to the Reebok Stadium.

Ferguson is on record as saying that Heinze may already have jeopardised his Old Trafford career before it even started after the defender embarked on a three-month international sojourn soon after signing for £6.9million from PSG.

With Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown still out through suspension and injury respectively, Ferguson has Mikael Silvestre as the only fit senior defender.

The Scot may be forced to partner the Frenchman with Heinze in central defence. Alternatively, Roy Keane, who came through the Republic of Ireland's World Cup qualifier with Switzerland unscathed, could be asked to continue at the back.


source (http://feeds.foxsports.com/story/3001754)

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
woot~ total capcity bring to 75 000....but i read somewhere that David Gill this will be the last expansion...cant bring to 100 000... :(

i think 75000 is already big enough liao . there's a limit for old trafford i think

[MatrixFanatic]

I think it's best Fergie throws Ruud into the fray. We need to win badly.

[ragnarok95]

we must win tonight!

[stam]

not looking good.... :(

[greycat87]

Can't really see United winning tonight :(

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by greycat87
Can't really see United winning tonight :(

same feeling too...
i hope bolton can relac ...dun push us too hard :(

[guoquanyap]

BRING BOLTON ON!! :cool:

[kangaroobabe]

Originally posted by AhHuat


same feeling too...
i hope bolton can relac ...dun push us too hard :(

haiz... perhaps ruud will play... when will we ever have our full squad..:(

[greycat87]

My Dream United XI

Gk : Howard

RB : G.Neville
LB : Heinze
CB : Ferdinand
CB : Brown

RM : Ronaldo
LM : Giggs
CM : Keane
CM : Scholes

FW : Ruud
FW : Smith

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
BRING BOLTON ON!! :cool:

have faith in fergie and the players :evil:

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by greycat87
My Dream United XI

Gk : Howard

RB : G.Neville
LB : Heinze
CB : Ferdinand
CB : Brown

RM : Ronaldo
LM : Giggs
CM : Keane
CM : Scholes

FW : Ruud
FW : Smith

Sir Alex Ferguson said: "The Bolton game today is Rio's last domestic match out. He has been training fantastically and he is looking magnificent. We haven't been able to play him at all because the FA don't allow banned players to play in reserve or behind-closed-door games but having him back is a great thing to look forward to.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1302094,00.html

[cutieboy86]

yes bring bolton on... devils will win tis match cos the players and fergie dun wish to lose too much pts to arsenal or chelsea

[greycat87]

Don't think fergie will throw Ferdinand in straight away... he still lacks match fitness

[cutieboy86]

tink he will use ferdinand str8 away cos man utd are short of defenders nw le...

[kangaroobabe]

yeah man.. let's have faith in them..:bounce: :bounce:

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by cutieboy86
tink he will use ferdinand str8 away cos man utd are short of defenders nw le...

Ferdinand still got 1 week away from being able to play...

[RVN]

Originally posted by greycat87
Don't think fergie will throw Ferdinand in straight away... he still lacks match fitness

He is going to put Rio straight into the starting line-up.. ;)


Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says he will have no hesitation in throwing Rio Ferdinand in at the deep end when his ban expires.

The England international's eight-month suspension ends next week Monday - the same day the Red Devils take on arch-rivals Liverpool.

But despite the fact that the 25-year-old defender is way short on match fitness, Ferguson will let him follow the same route as that of Eric Cantona, who came back from his eight-month ban to face the Reds.

"The Bolton game today is Rio's last domestic match out," said the Scot. "He has been training fantastically and he is looking magnificent.

"We haven't been able to play him at all because the FA don't allow banned players to play in reserve or behind-closed-door games, but having him back is a great thing to look forward to."

Source (http://itv-football.co.uk/Teams/Manchester_United/story_125280.shtml)

[huhster]

Originally posted by RVN


He is going to put Rio straight into the starting line-up.. ;)


Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says he will have no hesitation in throwing Rio Ferdinand in at the deep end when his ban expires.

The England international's eight-month suspension ends next week Monday - the same day the Red Devils take on arch-rivals Liverpool.

But despite the fact that the 25-year-old defender is way short on match fitness, Ferguson will let him follow the same route as that of Eric Cantona, who came back from his eight-month ban to face the Reds.

"The Bolton game today is Rio's last domestic match out," said the Scot. "He has been training fantastically and he is looking magnificent.

"We haven't been able to play him at all because the FA don't allow banned players to play in reserve or behind-closed-door games, but having him back is a great thing to look forward to."

Source (http://itv-football.co.uk/Teams/Manchester_United/story_125280.shtml)


seems like sir fergie is desperate liao...
he needs to start winning or else its bye-bye to the title:(
bo pian he has to throw ppl in...
lack of ppl liao

[jacqles]

forget about the title this year. by the time we can afford to field out best XI, Arsenal and Chelsea would have already steam-rolled ahead with quite a gap

i'm really eager to see what kinda football our current squad can play when fully fit ;)

[RVN]

Ruud and Heinze both starting against Bolton, Hope Ruud isn't rush back too quickly. But we do need the 3 points badly.

[Ronaldo7]

ruud awakening :evil:

[RVN]

Brown return as well. :eek:

but Ronaldo is on the bench, not suprising, he need rest.

Full line-up

----------------Howard-----------------
P.Neville---Brown----Silvestre---Heinze---
Kleberson-Keane----Scholes----Giggs------
----------Ruud-----Smith-------------------

Subs: Carroll, Spector, Ronaldo, Djemba, Bellion

[kangaroobabe]

heinze scores!!!... frm a giggs corner... man u 1 bolton 0

[kengbeng]

Heinze scores on debut!

[OKK77]

Good start for Heinze.

[Kyubi]

hahah heinze sets his debut by scoring a goal .. gd job man .. he played well in the defensive side ... dunno y .. i always see silvestre nearly/give away ball one leh .. sian ..

[Yod8]

silvestre provided the assist anyway:)

[kengbeng]

There goes the lead. Sigh.

[Kyubi]

haiz .. i saw silvestre give off ball again .. y keep on like tat ?

[Kyubi]

sigh .. hit pole again .. really suay leh .. last match oso like tat :sad:

[AhHuat]

the same old damn problem for manutd again....
while arsenal can score whenever they like....damn it....

[kengbeng]

Nightmare start to the season.

[Kyubi]

kao .. silvestre or howards fault tis time ?? sick of it le leh .. :Sad:

[RuMmYtUb]

the title race is over as early as the first month of EPL ?!
omg :mad:

[Kyubi]

lucky goal ... for man u .. ahaha .. 2 -2 draw again .. :sad: eh .. anyone agree with me tat silvestre like got something wrong liao ?

[Ronaldo7]

the good news : we avoid defeat

the bad news : we are out of the title race

le's stick together . we are in for a tough season

[Kyubi]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
the good news : we avoid defeat

the bad news : we are out of the title race

le's stick together . we are in for a tough season really sad ~ sia

[kangaroobabe]

Originally posted by Kyubi
lucky goal ... for man u .. ahaha .. 2 -2 draw again .. :sad: eh .. anyone agree with me tat silvestre like got something wrong liao ?

yup i agree..:rolleyes: he like so error prone now... :eek:

[ISS]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
the good news : we avoid defeat

the bad news : we are out of the title race

le's stick together . we are in for a tough season

I don't think Fergie and share holders are going to accept that. I also don't think snatching a draw in the last min is also accepted.

[Kyubi]

Originally posted by kangaroobabe


yup i agree..:rolleyes: he like so error prone now... :eek: haiz .. wats wrong with him ?? i dunno y leh .. he seems so.. -.-" i rather oshea play than him! haiz ..

[Totti76]

Originally posted by RuMmYtUb
the title race is over as early as the first month of EPL ?!
omg :mad:
Hard to admit it but I think so...:(
One Brown is enough now even Silvestre kana the Brown's disease..shld drop him n wait till he wake up his bloody idea... Rio n Henize in center more steady...

[RuMmYtUb]

Silvestre was solid last season during his partnership with Rio.

When Rio got banned, things start to go downhill for him, right up to Euro..

And now still ****ty performances :mad:

[Comtech]

:sad:

[Kyubi]

Originally posted by Totti76

Hard to admit it but I think so...:(
One Brown is enough now even Silvestre kana the Brown's disease..shld drop him n wait till he wake up his bloody idea... Rio n Henize in center more steady... haiz .. rio back mayb the defense wall will b more stronger .. before silvestre play centre .. he play left for man u .. tat time they did very well leh .. plus silvestre cross oso not bad.. y he play centre .. y alex let him play centre .. i really dun get it ..

[guoquanyap]

time to drop howard....look like he is taking his place for granted and when u come out for cross like this....u better hav confident to get the ball....and howard make a mess out of it....and he is not impressive lately....

[AhHuat]

knn manutd is fu.cking heng to earn this single point...
manutd has'nt fuc.king wake up yet :cool:

[tranze]

Wah sai man

Saw todays play
MAN U did not even deserve a farking draw for the past 2 games
...
this is a darkperiod for MAN U
We used to scrap for WIns at least n
now we have to settle for a draw...

MAn i hope Ferdinand and rooney can lift the team up...

[Totti76]

Looking at how we perform..I worse fear is that Utd may finsih the leg in mid table...if that really happen i think its goodbye fergie...

[Seals]

silvestre's fault.. not howards...
since the euro champ...he is like that.... give him some time off...


Originally posted by Kyubi
lucky goal ... for man u .. ahaha .. 2 -2 draw again .. :sad: eh .. anyone agree with me tat silvestre like got something wrong liao ?

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by Totti76
Looking at how we perform..I worse fear is that Utd may finsih the leg in mid table...if that really happen i think its goodbye fergie...

unlikely that we will finish in mid table lah . even liverpool who had a really bad season a few seasons ago also manage to finish 5th :rolleyes:

[cracker]

SAF has to give chance to the youngsters like spector, eagles, more often......scholes was a disappointment in the last few matches....giggs...well ..at least he supplied a few decent crosses...

But this is not going well at all....and it is only Sept !!!

[guoquanyap]

look like i am the only one who think its more of howard at fault....:cool:

[kengbeng]

Liverpool up next at Old Trafford. Our immediate future looks bleak.

[Kyubi]

Originally posted by Seals
silvestre's fault.. not howards...
since the euro champ...he is like that.... give him some time off...


really dunno wats wrong with him leh .. zz

[Totti76]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
time to drop howard....look like he is taking his place for granted and when u come out for cross like this....u better hav confident to get the ball....and howard make a mess out of it....and he is not impressive lately....

hahaha..u mean u was impressive before?? I never think so...he was never my Utd GK.....i think even Utd ex-CLown Barthez is even better than him...with his long throw counter attack..thats scare opp team...I never once saw Tim "Howler" done it before...

[guoquanyap]

Originally posted by Totti76


hahaha..u mean u was impressive before?? I never think so...he was never my Utd GK.....i think even Utd ex-CLown Barthez is even better than him...with his long throw counter attack..thats scare opp team...I never once saw Tim "Howler" done it before...

i prefer Roy Caroll...:cool:

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
look like i am the only one who think its more of howard at fault....:cool:

i'm on ur side.
if it was'nt howard howler....silvest wun make that mistake

[kangaroobabe]

lol.. not completely howards fault lar... it was the misunderstanding between him amd defender tat lead to second goal for bolton...:(

[Ronaldo7]

no use blaming liao lah . who don't make mistake ? :rolleyes:

[Kyubi]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
no use blaming liao lah . who don't make mistake ? :rolleyes: rio coming back on the 20th rite ??

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
no use blaming liao lah . who don't make mistake ? :rolleyes:

yea..."who dun make mistake?"
this question , i also asked myself alot of times....one single mistake per game is enuf to kill you.

[Ronaldo7]

yup . he will face liverpool .

[cracker]

anyway.....we get a pt..........next game is CL ?

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by AhHuat


yea..."who dun make mistake?"
this question , i also asked myself alot of times....one single mistake per game is enuf to kill you.

but the fact is we are just not good enough :rolleyes:

[Totti76]

Originally posted by kengbeng
Liverpool up next at Old Trafford. Our immediate future looks bleak.

Hai...current form..dun lose by a big gap can liao..1 nil ok lah...
Used to say to my frds..with Man city in ELP its 6 pts in the bag even a ball is kick...hahaha...
Now...i dun even dare to think abt it...really really sad n angry...
Pts that we got r given n not earn....

[Kyubi]

i really hope that when rio is back .. man u will b back on track again

[AhHuat]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7


but the fact it we are just not good enough :rolleyes:

i'm contented if manutd are good enuff to earn a CL spot this season....i dun hope for more....with such bleak period...

[uRiZEn]

Silvestre's fault lah...knn in front of the whole thing and yet cannot see Howard was going for the ball meh?
Stupid leg have to disturb....:mad:

[trax06]

i think these couple of seasons will be the rebuilding period.

[Totti76]

Originally posted by AhHuat


i'm contented if manutd are good enuff to earn a CL spot this season....i dun hope for more....with such bleak period...

same here...

[guoquanyap]

6pts from 5 matches....

[RVN]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
10 pts behind arsenal :(

9 actually,

our defending is awful, silvestre and howard school-boy defending. :mad:

[JirQUEST]

anyone believes we will come back against liverpool? =p

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
anyone believes we will come back against liverpool? =p

only pride to play for :(

Originally posted by RVN


9 actually,

our defending is awful, silvestre and howard school-boy defending. :mad:

paiseh =p

[Totti76]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
anyone believes we will come back against liverpool? =p

Well if u ask me...yes...but if u ask my to bet my wages on who...i will go for Kop...
Though I support with my heart...when come to betting i follow my brain...hahahaha..

[RVN]

We must beat liverpool next week, if the gap between us and arse go above 9, its all over. :mad:

[guoquanyap]

well there is still 33 matches and 99pts to fight for...dun lose hope....:cool:

[Kyubi]

ya man .. better not los eto the reds ..

[Ronaldo7]

Originally posted by RVN
We must beat liverpool next week, if the gap between us and arse go above 9, its all over. :mad:

and we need chelsea & arsenal to drop points too :angel:

[kangaroobabe]

ya its gonna be a tough season... we need to hang on...

[Totti76]

Originally posted by Ronaldo7


paiseh =p

9 pts...10 pts sama sama lah...its too big a gap even on this early stage...to catch up ars need to lose 3 matches...n utd must win all matches n dun lost or DRAW till ars slip....possible?? I dun see it coming...
May b..lets hope Munich crash happen to ars...kekekke...Evil??
Yeah...I am a Red Devil mah...:D

[OKK77]

Cheer up guys. We are still not near the relegation zone. *grins*

[RVN]

I think is time for silvestre off, give him few months rest. i can't stand for his poor form and mistakes anymore. :mad:

I am disgusted at the way we are defending, its horrendous. :mad:

We need to really find a winning habit soon. :(

[greycat87]

What a horrible performance by our defenders. I say drop that Silvestre once Ferdinand returns. He has been terrible ever since the start of Euro04.

[kangaroobabe]

Originally posted by RVN
I think is time for silvestre off, give him few months rest. i can't stand for his poor form and mistakes anymore. :mad:

I am disgusted at the way we are defending, its horrendous. :mad:

ya totally agree... look at his face like slping liddat.. haiz..

[Totti76]

Originally posted by guoquanyap
well there is still 33 matches and 99pts to fight for...dun lose hope....:cool:

Wow u thinking of 99pts..Jose say need 100pts to win title leh..hahaha..i was think of only 33pts...add the 6 we hv now...thats 39pts!!!!!
WOW OKK77 relegation zone liao...:D

[JirQUEST]

u guys are too tense =p

man utd has a history of starting slow and ending up with the epl title. actually, since epl started, this has been almost the trend.

2 seasons ago, when man utd won the league, it took them the first 7 games to get out of a bad streak. relax man... i believe man utd is gonna be back very soon :D

[OKK77]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
u guys are too tense =p

man utd has a history of starting slow and ending up with the epl title. actually, since epl started, this has been almost the trend.

2 seasons ago, when man utd won the league, it took them the first 7 games to get out of a bad streak. relax man... i believe man utd is gonna be back very soon :D

The difference now is that the top two teams are unlikely to drop many points in a row.

[RuMmYtUb]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
anyone believes we will come back against liverpool? =p

We must PWN liverpool next week! :mad:

[Totti76]

Originally posted by JirQUEST
u guys are too tense =p

man utd has a history of starting slow and ending up with the epl title. actually, since epl started, this has been almost the trend.

2 seasons ago, when man utd won the league, it took them the first 7 games to get out of a bad streak. relax man... i believe man utd is gonna be back very soon :D

But the standard now has been raise by ars...7 games???
Now the title chase start on day ONE.....

[1920_me]

That was a crap...!!!!!! yet again disappointed...every week...week after week..i watch united..hoping they would play well..and if they ever do..it probably will make my week...ruud was totally off..dunno whats the point of him playin being at 60 or 70%....defence seemed ok..besides silvestre lapse in concentration and howard's over-excited act..it just sucks...the last goal didnt mean anything to do..wats 2-1..and 2-2..it juz so disappointing we didnt win again....


THEN AGAIN..I AM UNITED THRU AND THRU...GO UNITED...YOU ROCK!

[GuStA13]

Originally posted by 1920_me
That was a crap...!!!!!! yet again disappointed...every week...week after week..i watch united..hoping they would play well..and if they ever do..it probably will make my week...ruud was totally off..dunno whats the point of him playin being at 60 or 70%....defence seemed ok..besides silvestre lapse in concentration and howard's over-excited act..it just sucks...the last goal didnt mean anything to do..wats 2-1..and 2-2..it juz so disappointing we didnt win again....


THEN AGAIN..I AM UNITED THRU AND THRU...GO UNITED...YOU ROCK! one pt is better den no pts. every pts count

[JirQUEST]

Originally posted by OKK77


The difference now is that the top two teams are unlikely to drop many points in a row.

unfortunately, there is no difference. while the top 2 teams have strengthened themselves, every season has been almost the same with teams dropping the pts somewhat miraculously. it's hard to take my words as it is, but the teams that are having a good streak now, will most likely suffer a drought later.

anyone remember man utd last season?

[1920_me]

i dont see difference between finishing 2/3/4.....2..3..4..are all losers..i want UNITED AT NO:1...and to do that u need 3 POINTS EVERY GAME NOT ONE

[JirQUEST]

Originally posted by Totti76


But the standard now has been raise by ars...7 games???
Now the title chase start on day ONE.....

it doesnt matter which day the title chase starts. eventually the one with the most pts wins (duh). relax lah... man utd will be back :D