Manchester United Forum

[RuMmYtUb]

wah pcb.. knn this is a real mess.. is this famous football club going to be another leeds utd?

[mediacorpforever]

I foresee the next worst thing to happen is to lose the cup final and Fergie and Gill resigns and players sacked ! :eek:

[RVN]

what a day, It seem normal yesterday but after today the world has been turn upside down and we are in a terrible state now. :s27:

[1920_me]

i doubt he can make it..the fans in england are pretty opposed to it...

[nakitas]

ManUtd is sinking deeper n deeper into t sh*t...

Lousy news kept popping day after day... Wat is happening?!? :eek:

[orca_sea]

ManUtd is sinking deeper n deeper into t sh*t...

Lousy news kept popping day after day... Wat is happening?!? :eek:

Hmm looks like we will b goin thru a torrid period soon. Hang on guyz!

[Ch3tah_39]

great now what :s27: !! hiya seems like alot of problem sial

[Ronaldo_7]

Quite surprise nobody here mention abt the match against Chelsea. United players forming 2 rows to appluad the new champion, Chelsea. Well, for me, as shown on the front page of The New Paper, it makes me SICK! And at all places at Old Trafford??!! I see the picture already so "gek sim" sia. So humilating! Dunno abt u, but i can't stand United players appluading Chelsea. Obviously, Ferguson instructed his players to do it, his motive probably to "humilate" them, so they will be fired up in the Cup Final. At the end of the match, can see many empty chairs, United players also doing the lap of hourner round the stadium. I think this is the 1st time i see this sia.
got to give credit to chelsea this season.. they are fantastic and not to leave out.. lucky also.. maybe its their way of giving thanks to the fans @ Old Trafford who were there for them :)

[RVN]

GLAZER
Buy's out Cubic and become majority shareholder / buyout know probably inevitiable

FERGUSON
Charge by the FA

MIKEL
Running scared and according to some reports now wants to play for Chelsea

FERDINAND
Charged and facing a ban for speeding

RONALDO
wanted by real madrid


depressing stuff, what a black and horrendous day for Man United. :o

[Ronaldo_7]

Just say that this season nothing goes right for Man Utd.

By the way, the next few days we will see whether Chelsea will announce the signing of Obi-Wan from Nigeria. :s13:
no.. they sign Anakin Skywalker.. they belong to the Dark Side :s13:

[Ronaldo_7]

Mikel: I want to play for Chelsea
By Matt Hughes, Evening Standard
12 May 2005

The incredible saga of teenage star Jon Obi Mikel's move to Manchester United took a sensational new twist today when it emerged that the Nigerian wanted to join Chelsea.

United announced the 18-year-old's £4 million signing from Lyn Oslo last month but the player no longer wants to move to Old Trafford because of unhappiness at the way his transfer has been handled.

The Nigerian under-17 star expressed surprise when his move to United was announced having trained with Chelsea last December and it appears he is still harbouring hopes of moving to Stamford Bridge.

Mikel has spent the last few days under armed guard in Oslo after receiving mysterious death threats from England and Nigeria but the situation descended into farce last night when the police were sent after him by his own club.

After watching a cup match between Lyn and Klemetstrud, Mikel drove off in an unauthorised car with his agent, John ****tu, but were followed by police and ended up hiding in nearby woods as the agent made calls on two mobile phones.

Mikel said: "I don't want to play for Manchester United anymore. I'm not satisfied with the way Lyn have handled this case and I'm angry that they sent the police after me. I find this very degrading."

John ****tu added: "Jon Obi is angry now. We're angry at Lyn because the boy has just had his 18th birthday and has become a punchbag. It's turned into a circus with everyone following us every step of the way. Jon has taken everything personally and how can he play his best football in these circumstances?"

Chelsea are furious at missing out on a player Jose Mourinho has described as "pure gold" but these latest developments will give them hope of working their way back into the deal. United are growing increasingly concerned and sent their head of youth, Jim Ryan, to Oslo yesterday in an attempt to pacify the player.

Reports in Norway claim that Chelsea's anger stems from the fact that they have paid £190,000 to Norwegian Sports School NTG to look after the schooling of four young Nigerians, including Mikel.






FFS, football agents should be shot, mutilated and hanged in public. whts the matter with him last week he said that he is very happy and proud to join us.anyway if he doesnt want to play for us then **** him:s27:


WTF?? signed for us liao nw want to quit? what is this manz!! :s27:

[AhHuat]

:s13: not again?

[AhHuat]

Real boss keen on United's Ronaldo

Real Madrid coach Wanderley Luxemburgo has admitted he is an admirer of Manchester United's winger Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has been linked with Real Madrid in recent weeks as Madrid search for a replacement for Luis Figo, who looks certain to leave the club at the end of the current season.

They have also been linked with Betis winger Joaquin Sanchez and the Madrid coach has made it clear he would be happy to have the pair of them working under his charge.

'Of course I like players such as Joaquin or Cristiano Ronaldo,' he said on Real Madrid television.

However, Luxemburgo believes neither Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United or Lorenzo Serra Ferrer at Betis are getting the best out of the players.

'I believe that leaving them to play out on the wing limits their capacity to perform,' he said, using Betis as an example.

'Who is more skilful, Joaquin or (Ricardo) Oliveira? Joaquin.

'However, who has scored most goals? Oliveira (with 19 this season).

'That is because he plays more centrally and is not wasted on the wing. I like my strikers to participate in the game from the wings,' said Luxemburgo.

[RuMmYtUb]

Glazier has 70% now and counting.... knn :mad:

[Raul7]

Mikel: I want to play for Chelsea
By Matt Hughes, Evening Standard
12 May 2005

The incredible saga of teenage star Jon Obi Mikel's move to Manchester United took a sensational new twist today when it emerged that the Nigerian wanted to join Chelsea.

United announced the 18-year-old's £4 million signing from Lyn Oslo last month but the player no longer wants to move to Old Trafford because of unhappiness at the way his transfer has been handled.

The Nigerian under-17 star expressed surprise when his move to United was announced having trained with Chelsea last December and it appears he is still harbouring hopes of moving to Stamford Bridge.

Mikel has spent the last few days under armed guard in Oslo after receiving mysterious death threats from England and Nigeria but the situation descended into farce last night when the police were sent after him by his own club.

After watching a cup match between Lyn and Klemetstrud, Mikel drove off in an unauthorised car with his agent, John ****tu, but were followed by police and ended up hiding in nearby woods as the agent made calls on two mobile phones.

Mikel said: "I don't want to play for Manchester United anymore. I'm not satisfied with the way Lyn have handled this case and I'm angry that they sent the police after me. I find this very degrading."

John ****tu added: "Jon Obi is angry now. We're angry at Lyn because the boy has just had his 18th birthday and has become a punchbag. It's turned into a circus with everyone following us every step of the way. Jon has taken everything personally and how can he play his best football in these circumstances?"

Chelsea are furious at missing out on a player Jose Mourinho has described as "pure gold" but these latest developments will give them hope of working their way back into the deal. United are growing increasingly concerned and sent their head of youth, Jim Ryan, to Oslo yesterday in an attempt to pacify the player.

Reports in Norway claim that Chelsea's anger stems from the fact that they have paid £190,000 to Norwegian Sports School NTG to look after the schooling of four young Nigerians, including Mikel.






FFS, football agents should be shot, mutilated and hanged in public. whts the matter with him last week he said that he is very happy and proud to join us.anyway if he doesnt want to play for us then **** him:s27:


chelsea will tempt him with more $$$$$. :s8:

[Raul7]

Glazier has 70% now and counting.... knn :mad:

this is not a good news........

[Ronaldo7]

the end of mufc is near :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41140000/jpg/_41140033_staduimflag.jpg

[MatrixFanatic]

Why don't someone be a hero and kill that Glazer? :o

[RVN]

Manchester United Public Limited Company RIP on Friday 13th most likely . That's about 15 years of healthy life. A sad sad day for football really. Even the United haters shouldn't be welcoming this, because maybe it could destroy a team they put more time and heart into hating than supporting their own club, but also this shows once again that football is about money know and that things like this can happen now and those rich *******s ruining the game. Sad day. :o

[yulee]

Question mark hangs over Scot's future
Daniel Taylor The Guardian
Friday May 13, 2005

Sir Alex Ferguson will consult his family and closest friends before deciding whether to retire when Malcolm Glazer takes control at Old Trafford. The Scot is repulsed by the prospect of a takeover which will change the face of Manchester United for ever, and may not be swayed by the US tycoon's attempts to forge a working relationship with him.

Glazer has let it be known that he wants Ferguson to survive a cull that would see most of the current board forced out. The reclusive American, who yesterday launched a £790.3m takeover bid, has done his homework on Ferguson and likes what he has found, but he knows the admiration is not mutual and that this year United's manager has already publicly questioned the takeover plans.

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Glazer does not intend to repeat one of his first, highly aggressive decisions when he bought the Tampa Bay Buccaneers American Football club in 1995 and swiftly replaced the coach Sam Wyche.

However Ferguson's intentions are not so clear and he will seek advice before deciding whether or not to remain in office during one of the most unsettling periods in the club's history.

Walking out would be a last resort but it is a definite possibility and the Scot will not be encouraged to learn that one of Glazer's first acts will involve moving on the plc board's three non-executive directors, Ian Much, Jim O'Neill and the chairman Sir Roy Gardner.

The finance director Nick Humby is considered "vulnerable" and Glazer's eldest son Joel, who has been instrumental in the negotiations, has indicated that he wants an office at Old Trafford as well as a seat in the directors' box. Ferguson would then have to answer to him or "some other American hotshot", as one United employee put it.

Sweeping changes are inevitable but Ferguson will be relieved to hear that David Gill, the chief executive who has led a polite yet obstructive anti-Glazer campaign, will probably survive because the new owners want a degree of continuity. Ferguson gets on well with Gill and that may be influential in his decision.

Gill would certainly try to talk him into staying although one theory last night was that Ferguson, at 63, might deem it more trouble than it is worth. Should the Scot leave this summer he would do so as a hero, particularly if United beat Arsenal in the FA Cup final, and after two disappointing seasons such a move has already been described within Old Trafford as "a graceful exit".

That, however, underestimates Ferguson's desire to reestablish United as England's premier team and the strength of his emotional bond with the club. He has spoken of his desire to continue for at least two more years but, with or without Gill, he knows that Glazer's arrival will mean significant changes to his working conditions.

For starters, the business would effectively be run by an American family who have had no involvement in football before and are considered difficult and distant. "You can count on one hand the people who know the Glazers well," said one high-ranking official at the Tampa Sports Authority, which runs the Buccaneers' Raymond James Stadium. "We hardly ever see them."

Glazer will apparently make around £20m available to spend on players every season but Gill has told Ferguson to look at the bigger picture and, in particular, the reservations about long-term finance that United's plc board had cited in its opposition. Ferguson is highly sceptical about the financial risk involved and there are no guarantees, as yet, of whether the new owners will back his spending plans.

With Ferguson's blessing, United have not only offered Rio Ferdinand a five-year contract worth £30m but are in negotiations with Ryan Giggs, John O'Shea, Cristiano Ronaldo, Darren Fletcher and Tim Howard. Whether Glazer will be willing to subsidise huge rises, particularly in Ferdinand's case, is one of the many issues that will trouble the club's management.

Glazer is not as parsimonious as he is often portrayed and two years ago he paid US$8m, an unprecedented figure in the NFL, to take the highly respected coach Jon Gruden to Tampa Bay from the Oakland Raiders. Alternatively, there are stories of him quibbling about the price of trainers and buying his clothes from budget stores.

Glazer certainly has his work cut out to dispel Ferguson's scepticism. Winning over the manager could be of enormous benefit for the 73-year-old, whose public relations man once described United's followers as "xenophobic", but he would be kidding himself to believe it would improve his popularity among the supporters. Ferguson has openly sympathised with the fans' Not for Sale campaign and were he to back Glazer, would be accused of betrayal.

If, as is believed, Glazer has read Ferguson's autobiography he will also be aware that the Glaswegian is not the type to stand by and watch as new employees are brought in and valued colleagues such as the club's long-serving solicitor Maurice Watkins and secretary Ken Ramsden are ushered out.

In case Glazer is not fully au fait with the Scot he should refer, perhaps, to the very last line of his book. "Loyalty is the anchor of my life," says the man who has won 17 trophies at United and will go for an 18th in Cardiff a week tomorrow.

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End of the road for SAF, he shouldn't have fallen out with the Irish duo over a stupid horse !

[nakitas]

this is not a good news........

T latest news is 75% liao, i think... :s27:

[MatrixFanatic]

Wtf. If SAF is gone too, Manutd really deep **** liao. :s31:

[Raul7]

United fans vow war against Glazer
LONDON, May 12 (Reuters) - Manchester United fans promised a war of attrition against Malcolm Glazer after the American tycoon took control of the world's richest football club.

Glazer: The would be United owner hung in effigy. (NealSimpson/Empics)
Supporters' groups, whose vociferous opposition helped prevent a 1999 takeover by satellite television company BSkyB, called a demonstration on Thursday at Old Trafford, home of the most famous club in British football, to voice their disgust.

Fans say Glazer has no knowledge of the football side of the club and is interested purely in its brand, rivalled only by Real Madrid, and revenues.

They fear his £790million offer will saddle United with heavy debts, forcing up ticket prices and diverting funds which could be used to improve the team which finished a disappointing third this season.

United fans had planned to boycott last Saturday's home match against West Bromwich Albion to protest against Glazer's takeover moves before calling it off 24 hours before the game because they feared the boycott would fall flat.

'He's got himself an extremely tainted asset - this is by no means over,' said Oliver Houston of Shareholders United.

'Even if Mr Glazer succeeds in getting all-out control, the campaign by fans to show that no customers equals no profits will continue.

'If that means starving ourselves, and starving the club of income, in order to make this parasite detach himself from us, then so be it,' Houston told SkySports News.

Stockmarket analysts believe that there is little anti-Glazer supporters, whose shareholding in the club is estimated at around 20 percent, can do to prevent the takeover if city institutions decide 300 pence a share is a fair price.

However, the fans are emboldened by the memories of the takeover attempt by Australian-born American Rupert Murdoch whose one billion dollar bid was accepted by United's board.

After a vociferous campaign by fans, the bid was turned down by British anti-monopolies officials who said it would not have been in the public interest because it might have reduced competition for Premier League broadcasting rights.

'It (a takeover) is never inevitable and I urge all other shareholders not to sell,' said Mark Longden, spokesman for the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association (IMUSA).

'There are far more opposed to the Glazer bid than when Murdoch tried to take over because people are more politically aware. The fight goes on until we are FC United.'

United has won the European Cup twice, the league title 15 times and been the dominant side in England for the past decade under manager Alex Ferguson, who has been in charge since 1986.

The 1958 Munich air crash, which decimated the team, increased the club's mystique as did players like Bobby Charlton, George Best, Denis Law and, more recently, Frenchman Eric Cantona and England captain David Beckham, now with Real Madrid.

Old Trafford is the biggest club ground in England, holding 68,000. United want to increase this to almost 76,000 which will still not be big enough to contain the number of fans from all over the world who want to watch the Red Devils.

GLOBAL BASE

United estimate their global fan base at more than 75 million, including 40 million in Asia and just 4.6 million in the Americas where Glazer, owner of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers American football team, has marketing expertise.

'We've got members in over 85 countries around the world, this is not just about people who are going week-in, week-out,' said Houston.

'This is about the television audiences, Manchester United's tie-up with sponsors - people are not going to want to be associated with a Malcolm Glazer-owned Manchester United.'

Glazer's bid comes at an awkward time for the club and their frustrated fans.

United has been eclipsed by Chelsea, owned and funded by Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich, this season and has now gone two years without winning the English title, unknown since the early '90s.

The feelings of the fans will have the perfect setting at the FA Cup final, one of English sport's great annual occasions, on May 21 in Cardiff where United will play arch-rivals Arsenal.

Supporters' websites are already calling on fans to burn their letters from the club about 2005/06 season tickets.

'If he takes over there's no way I'll set foot in the ground ever again and a lot of people think that,' said Longden.

'When the call goes up 'Stand up if we're not for sale' 90 percent are against it.'

[RVN]

Glazer wants Fergie to stay on

Sir Alex Ferguson's job as Manchester United boss is not under threat despite Malcolm Glazer moving closer to buying the club, reports the Daily Express.
Glazer now has a 70% share in the club but the US tycoon wants Ferguson to stay on according to the newspaper's chief football writer Harry Harris.

"Ferguson will be offered a long-term contract as part of a five-year plan" Harris told BBC Radio Five Live.

"In that plan, he will be given £100m for new players."

Ferguson, who has been at the Old Trafford helm for more than 18 years, will begin a one-year rolling contract this summer.

However, Glazer is reported to be keen for the Scottish manager to oversee football affairs during what is set to be a difficult period of transition off the field.

The American tycoon is certain to shake-up the boardroom casting uncertainty over the future of chief executive David Gill.

Gill, who took over from Peter Kenyon in September 2003, recently referred to Glazer's takeover plan as "potentially damaging."

But Harris insisted that Gill's position would also be safe for now.

"David Gill will be kept in place as they (the Glazers) have complete confidence in the management team," Harris said.

"But the non-executive directors will be sacked while Joel and Avi Glazer will join the board."

The Guardian newspaper also reports Gill is expected to continue in the same position at Old Trafford.

Although, Malcolm Glazer's son Joel is expected to have a "active" role once he takes his place among the club's directors.

"The Glazers have a very high regard of David Gill," an advisor to the Glazers told The Guardian.

"They hope and expect that Gill will continue to do the job he has been doing.

"One of the reasons they want to buy Manchester United is that it is the best managed football club in England."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4542805.stm

[RuMmYtUb]

Utd must and will go on!

[o0KelviN0o]

1, 2, 3...
3, 2, 1...
Man U, Man U number 1

Go Man U Go,
Man U always pak buay toh

[Raul7]

1, 2, 3...
3, 2, 1...
Man U, Man U number 1

Go Man U Go,
Man U always pak buay toh

omg...ah beng chants sia........

[Ronaldo7]

- A massive ticket price hike: if you thought £608 was expensive this season, expect
it to be over £1000 in a year's time
- A huge rise in the cost of matchday catering and parking, United merchandise etc
- The big one: an attempt to renegotiate TV contracts so that United can sell
their own rights rather than in a pool with the rest of the Premiership clubs
- Stadium naming rights: expect it to be called "Nike Trafford" very soon
- Sale and lease back of Old Trafford: Glazer could sell the ground and rent it back


He's gonna die,
He's gonna die,
Malcom Glazer's gonna die,
How we kill him I don't know,
Cut him up from head to toe,
All I know is Glazer's going to die
He's gonna die,
He's gonna die,
Malcom Glazer's gonna die

:evil:

[jamomatt]

Dear fellow fans,

Please join Shareholders United immediately. We need at least 7% more shares to stop the fat B@STARD from taking over our club. www.shareholdersunited.org. PLEASE support the club and stop the FAT B@ST@RD!

[Ronaldo7]

Glazer wants Fergie to stay on

Sir Alex Ferguson's job as Manchester United boss is not under threat despite Malcolm Glazer moving closer to buying the club, reports the Daily Express.
Glazer now has a 70% share in the club but the US tycoon wants Ferguson to stay on according to the newspaper's chief football writer Harry Harris.

"Ferguson will be offered a long-term contract as part of a five-year plan" Harris told BBC Radio Five Live.

"In that plan, he will be given £100m for new players."

Ferguson, who has been at the Old Trafford helm for more than 18 years, will begin a one-year rolling contract this summer.

However, Glazer is reported to be keen for the Scottish manager to oversee football affairs during what is set to be a difficult period of transition off the field.

The American tycoon is certain to shake-up the boardroom casting uncertainty over the future of chief executive David Gill.

Gill, who took over from Peter Kenyon in September 2003, recently referred to Glazer's takeover plan as "potentially damaging."

But Harris insisted that Gill's position would also be safe for now.

"David Gill will be kept in place as they (the Glazers) have complete confidence in the management team," Harris said.

"But the non-executive directors will be sacked while Joel and Avi Glazer will join the board."

The Guardian newspaper also reports Gill is expected to continue in the same position at Old Trafford.

Although, Malcolm Glazer's son Joel is expected to have a "active" role once he takes his place among the club's directors.

"The Glazers have a very high regard of David Gill," an advisor to the Glazers told The Guardian.

"They hope and expect that Gill will continue to do the job he has been doing.

"One of the reasons they want to buy Manchester United is that it is the best managed football club in England."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4542805.stm

pui .

more like a move trying to win over the fans . dream on :mad:

[vivre]

£100m for new players?? Sure or not? Financed by debt? End up we'll be like Leeds Utd.

[jamomatt]

Direct Action: Smithfield Financial
Talk to Glazer's new PR people!

Smithfield Financial
78 Cowcross Street
London
EC1M 6HE

Tel: 020 7360 4900

The firm is described as a financial communications consultancy
specialising in financial public relations, share offer marketing,
communications for mergers and acquisitions (M&A), corporate
restructuring
and divestments and investor relations.

The two individuals involved are:

John Antcliffe & John Kiely

jantcliffe@smithfieldgroup.com; jkiely@smithfieldgroup.com,
enquiries@smithfieldfinancial.com, info@smithfieldfinancial.com,
ghudson@smithfieldfinancial.com, crety@smithfieldgroup.com,
rhoare@smithfieldgroup.com, khunt@smithfieldgroup.com,
srichardson@smithfieldgroup.com, spaul@smithfieldgroup.com,
jantcliffe@smithfieldgroup.com, arainbow@smithfieldgroup.com

As best as we know their respective email addresses are:
jantcliffe@smithfieldgroup.com and jkiely@smithfieldgroup.com. The
website
is no longer up and running but past press releases have given other
employees email addresses as first initial then surname. They were
retained
by NM Rothschild and have worked with them in the past. They also do PR
for
firms such as Alvis, Stagecoach and Thus, so they get around a bit.

Please let them know how you feel about our friend Malcolm Glazer! And
please let them know what you think of people who are aiding and
abetting
him.

[o0KelviN0o]

Dear fellow fans,

Please join Shareholders United immediately. We need at least 7% more shares to stop the fat B@STARD from taking over our club. www.shareholdersunited.org. PLEASE support the club and stop the FAT B@ST@RD!

i used to be very very intrested in purchasing Man U shares last time...

any locals bought?

[jamomatt]

i used to be very very intrested in purchasing Man U shares last time...

any locals bought?
Of cos got buy la... please take action. If you're a student, even a 10 pounds contribution can help. If working please contribute more. If every united fan just contribute 1 pound we could have bought out the club outright a few times over.

[RVN]

If things goes worng, He would let the company declare bankrutcy, not himself.

The big outrage is that he has put himself 270 million in debt, but once he has 75% of the shares (which reportedly will happen as early as today), he can transter that debt to Manchester United.

United would go into bankruptcy, even worse than leeds situation, not him. god sakes, Glazer must rot in hell and die. :mad:

[jamomatt]

We must not give up yet. He may have won a major battle but the war is not over. We must not let our english friends fight alone.

We'll never die, we'll never die
We'll never die, we'll never die
We'll keep red flag flying high
Cos Man United never dies

[mobo]

What to do? the big shareholders want to cash in like the 2 Irish mafiasos (reportedly reaped 70 mil pounds profit the fat fuks...) and others.

Maybe should see what he can do FOR United before we take action... if United goes to pieces... his family will face the wrath... international fans are not as laid back as hot-dog munching US sports fans.

If he had taken over Arsenal, that nice Arsenal fan Osama bin Laden may have targeted him.

[Ronaldo_7]

can someone juz ****ing kill him? fat ass**** :s27: sux la damn it!

[Raul7]

£100m for new players?? Sure or not? Financed by debt? End up we'll be like Leeds Utd.

ya loh, he is really an asshole.......

[Ronaldo_7]

ya loh, he is really an asshole.......
he's a mather farker

[o0KelviN0o]

Of cos got buy la... please take action. If you're a student, even a 10 pounds contribution can help. If working please contribute more. If every united fan just contribute 1 pound we could have bought out the club outright a few times over.

please check yr PM... :)

[Raul7]

Glazers ponder Man Utd future for Giggs
tribalfootball.com - May 13, 2005

The first piece of business for new Manchester United owners the Glazers could be finding a replacement for winger Ryan Giggs.

Giggs was close to signing a two-year extension on his current deal, which is worth £70,000 a week, but Malcolm Glazer's takeover has put everything on-hold.

And The Sun says ominously for him, Glazer's soccer-mad son Joel has been reported as saying: "How much longer can Giggs play? Can we get another midfielder and replace him?"

[Ronaldo_7]

so fast wan to make changes to the club liaoz? :s22:

[jamomatt]

Soccer mad son indeed...

They can both go fark spider! Whether a player goes is the managers job. Anyway I doubt Giggsy will wanna play for that trash.

[chengsun]

wosrt case, all the oldies under SAF left, together with SAF, eithe rto other clubs or retirement.
soccer mad son, yeah, mad for sure
i remember that we have a contract with NY yankee right? so now under him, tat deal how?

[jamomatt]

MU Bucaneers?

Donno... Boycott all MU merchandise! All united fans must make a stand that there is no money to be made for him. I'd much sooner see the club drop into the lower divisions, thus getting rid of him and starting over :(

[Ronaldo7]

Winning back the fans could take longer than winning another title.

got this quote from an online article talking about the takeover . how true :(

[Ronaldo_7]

MU Bucaneers?

Donno... Boycott all MU merchandise! All united fans must make a stand that there is no money to be made for him. I'd much sooner see the club drop into the lower divisions, thus getting rid of him and starting over :(
haiz.... hope dun get to lower divisions lor... 3rd is bad enough.. :sad:

[yulee]

*Long Sigh* :(

[nakitas]

Fiorentina, Leeds, ManUtd... Same catagory... Owned by cash-monsters...

Slowly the players gonna b put on display n package out for sales...

[wawawa]

think about the players.who wana play for the club if the financial situation is unclear...u play today,maybe the next day u are sold .....so sad

[Raul7]

Fiorentina, Leeds, ManUtd... Same catagory... Owned by cash-monsters...

Slowly the players gonna b put on display n package out for sales...

damn sad for Utd..........

[jamomatt]

Don't fret yet guys! If we can beat him to the 25+% shares he'll be the one with the debt problems.

[o0KelviN0o]

courtesy of jamomatt,

please click the link below for the latest movement on the shares of our beloved Man Utd :sad:

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/Templates/I1.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fen-gb%2fpricesnews%2fprices%2fsystem%2fdetailedprices%2ehtm%3fsym%3dNL0000355923ZZEURNSTS5971424GTN&NRNODEGUID=%7b1B713125-A605-46EB-9DFB-901FFF03010C%7d&NRCACHEHINT=Guest&sym=GB0005612402GBGBXSET20561240MNU

[o0KelviN0o]

to date, he has 63.4% liao... :sad:

please people... buy the shares! :)

[o0KelviN0o]

Those of you who are wondering...

There is only one strategy that wins now: it's to gain 25% of the shareholding. Full stop.

25% keeps Malcolm Glazer from parking his debt within the club. That means he has to sustain hundreds of millions of pounds worth of debt on his own instead of using the club's revenues to pay it off.

Empty your ****ing pockets. It is now or never.

STAND UP.

Quote from site admin of http://www.suforum.org/forum/index.php

[o0KelviN0o]

http://www.suforum.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

[jamomatt]

Actually it is 25+%... as long as he doesn't touch 75% he will be unable to make use of the club to pay off his debts.

[o0KelviN0o]

Actually it is 25+%... as long as he doesn't touch 75% he will be unable to make use of the club to pay off his debts.

25% + 1 share to be specific

[jamomatt]

So everyone please spread the word to all United fans that you know.

EDIT:

Just to add. We stole the Champs League from Bayern in injury time. We can steal back our club in injury time too

[jamomatt]

Latest news.

Supposedly, Sir Alex described the takeover news as "revolting" and is now consulting his family and friends on whether to retire. :(

[yulee]

Supporters threaten ticket and merchandise boycott
Kevin McCarra Guardian
Friday May 13, 2005

There are Manchester United supporters who love the club deeply enough to kill it. Now that Malcolm Glazer is set to amass the 75% stake he needs for effective control, some fans will call for a scorched earth policy. If enough of them refuse to buy tickets and boycott every piece of megastore tat then the American will lose most of the £790m raised for his bid. In a couple of years he would be reduced to searching frantically for someone to tow the club away at a knockdown price.

"No customers means no profit," the Shareholders United vice-president Oliver Houston warned yesterday. If Glazer and his sons have done their homework they will have thought long and anxiously about that sort of antagonism. For their sake, the family had better not have taken too seriously Roy Keane's diatribe about a "prawn sandwich brigade". The most striking characteristic of Old Trafford is the continuing passion of the place despite all the honours already won.

The crowd is even good at defeats, with Ronaldo given a standing ovation for his hat-trick in 2003 and Chelsea widely applauded from the pitch on Tuesday. Any journalist who has offered a contentious opinion about the club need only look in his inbox for proof of the deeply felt and trenchantly argued views in this support. Glazer will find some of the least compliant spectators in the world awaiting him.

Their objections to the takeover are readily communicated. A club that kept itself in the black will be saddled with debts of £300m as the American transfers some of his borrowings to its accounts. Speaking of transfers, there will eventually be reduced sums for new players when there are interest payments to be met. No matter how reassuring he seeks to be this year, Glazer is sure to ask, as well, why a seat to watch Wayne Rooney is two-thirds of the price of a place at Highbury.

The billionaire can be accused of grossly overestimating the potential to improve United's profitability. Sport in his own land, where Hillsborough Council could be manoeuvred into building a new stadium for his American Football team, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is no schooling for the global soccer scene. United's most recent set of full accounts showed an operating profit of £58.3m, but transfer market dealings slashed even that total. Unless there are unimagined marvels of marketing genius the return on Glazer's investment will be unsatisfactory.

In going ahead with this enterprise, though, he must be working on the assumption that many people remain who have no stomach for war with him. Glazer thinks there are enough of them to fill Old Trafford and cram the club's shops. The one form of onslaught he is yet to launch is a charm offensive and, having negotiated with JP McManus and John Magnier, he will belatedly start his efforts to win over supporters.

It is his guess that they can be mollified with a £20m transfer budget this summer for Sir Alex Ferguson, who had been expecting no funds at all. Shareholders United can reply that this is a cosmetic exercise, but it will be Glazer's hope to put them on the defensive. This saga will show whether fans can bear to maintain a sustained interest in business affairs. Some might tell themselves that all could yet work out tolerably, considering that Glazer's Tampa Bay did win the Super Bowl.

That is glib reasoning, but the alternatives to tolerating the new owner might not appeal to fans. Abandoning the club would devastate United as well as Glazer. As the horrible Leeds United experience shows, near bankruptcy is no sort of fresh start. For years to come there may be only a sort of half-life at Elland Road and it will be a miracle if they ever bid for the Premiership title. Those who think of Wimbledon and dream of starting a new club in Manchester are too radically speculative to get enough of the Old Trafford crowd to march with them.

United are in this predicament because people do not naturally take to the concept of football as a business affair. Had supporters been moved by the issue, they would long ago have pieced together a 25% stake that stymied Glazer and any other adventurer. The fevered attempt to create such a block, in a ploy hatched with the Japanese bank Nomura, looks to have come too late.

United are unique as a football plc that has delivered excellent results on the field and the balance sheet. The acumen has not made them loveable. Instead of rising in anger, parts of this country will laugh today at the spectacle of boardroom capitalists becoming dismayed when their beloved market forces lead a Glazer to break down the door.

Those who rally to Shareholders United are enrolling in a smart and honourable cause, but the odds are now against them.

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R.I.P MUFC (1878-2005)

[Raul7]

Latest news.

Supposedly, Sir Alex described the takeover news as "revolting" and is now consulting his family and friends on whether to retire. :(

really ho sei liao............ :s27:

[MatrixFanatic]

This has been a Really Bad year for SAF and MUFC... :(

Go away lousy fan.:mad:

[RVN]

This has been a Really Bad year for SAF and MUFC... :(

**** off yulee, you are a pain in the ass, get lost!!! :mad:

[MatrixFanatic]

Gill Convinced Mikel Has Joined

United chief executive David Gill believes the club "have the rights" to John Obi Mikel as confusion over the player's destination mounts.

The Reds announced an agreement with Mikel's club FC Lyn Oslo on 29 April. However, in an interview on Sky Sports, the highly-rated and widely-coveted midfielder claimed he was pressured into signing for United.

Rumours abounded on Thursday that the Nigerian youth international, in London with his agents, had arrived in England to open talks with Chelsea.

That news came as a surprise to David Gill, who brandished a copy of the agreement to bring Mikel to Old Trafford, an agreement reached by Mikel, Lyn and Manchester United.

Of Chelsea's apparent attempts to sign Mikel, Gill said: "I am very disappointed. We have written to another club (about Mikel) but they have not responded to our letters.

"We have shown due deference to them, explaining the situation," he told MUTV. "We have sent copies to the Premier League and we will see the outcome," Gill added.

The club had hoped to have Mikel at Old Trafford next January and were waiting on the player obtaining a work permit. Despite having the paperwork to suggest Mikel will become a United player, that has been thrown into doubt.

But Gill remains adamant Mikel has signed for the club. He said: "We did a deal with the club [FC Lyn], quite properly, and following the rules.

"We also did a deal with John Obi. He has turned 18 and turned professional. But in order to play in the Premier League he needs a work permit.

"That is the process we have gone through. We have the rights to the player."

Obi Mikel, however, cast doubt on the United chief executive's assurances on a player the vast majority of fans have not even see play.

The interest and determination to capture Mikel's signature is an indication of how big a prospect the midfielder is, which makes his comments about being pressure into signing all the more depressing for Reds.

"I signed a contract with Manchester United and I didn't do that of my own free will," Mikel told Sky Sports. "I was put into a lot of pressure to do that.

"I was denied advice from my agent and people I trust and I didn't get much time to think about that.

"I did something I did not want to do. Because of the pressure from Mr Morgan (Andersen, Lyn's sporting director) and a representative of United it became too much.

"I was pushed and I had nobody on my side so I had to do it. I was denied a chance to have a week to think about it and get some independent advice from people so the pressure was too much."

The 18-year-old denied contact with Chelsea, despite visiting London with his agents.

He said: "I came into London and I have been in my hotel with my agent and haven't seen anyone or talked to anyone from Chelsea. I have no contact with Chelsea for now."

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=175233&itype=466&icategoryid=120

[yulee]

Dear MatrixFanatic and RVN,

I understand you feel upset at the events that have taken place at MUFC over the last few hours. I'll appreciate if you could keep your comments to the relavent discussions and not get involved in nasty personal attacks.

[RVN]

Dear MatrixFanatic and RVN,

I understand you feel upset at the events that have taken place at MUFC over the last few hours. I'll appreciate if you could keep your comments to the relavent discussions and not get involved in nasty personal attacks.

I get the feeling you are coming here to gloat and laugh about it, piss off.

[MatrixFanatic]

Dear MatrixFanatic and RVN,

I understand you feel upset at the events that have taken place at MUFC over the last few hours. I'll appreciate if you could keep your comments to the relavent discussions and not get involved in nasty personal attacks.

Time to jump ship and support the other teams.....

Why delete your post? Now I can't find it. :s34: :s34:

[yulee]

Dear MatrixFanatic and RVN, I have no intention to come here to "gloat and laugh" as RVN claims. I made the comments in disgust same and many MU fans who are tearing up their season tickets right now. I am just as upset and in dispair at the turn of events. Maybe you should channel your anger at Malcom Glazer and the Irish duo who sold out instead?

-Peace-

[mediacorpforever]

Comment: Who's to blame?
Paul Hince, MEN chief sports writer

SHOULD we blame a wealthy 76-year-old American for wanting to get his hands on Manchester United?

No, we shouldn't. Malcolm Glazer is a businessman. And as a money- making concern, the Old Trafford empire is just about as good as it gets. Why wouldn't he want it?

Should we blame two Irish millionaires for allowing Glazer to take control of one of the most famous and historic clubs on this planet by selling him their shares? No, we shouldn't. John Magnier and JP McManus are businessmen.

They made it clear all along that the United shares they purchased were nothing more than an investment. They've made a fortune selling out to Glazer. Get real. That's what good businessmen do.

But there is blame to be apportioned to explain away the reason why this great, great Manchester football club and institution is now, to all intents and purposes, owned and run by a pensioner on the other side of the Atlantic. And the blame for that, in my book, lies fairly and squarely on the doorstep of Manchester United itself.

Because from the moment - the very moment - that United launched itself on the Stock Exchange as a plc company it became a disaster waiting to happen.

Commodity

From that moment, United ceased to exist as a football club with a responsibility and a duty to its supporters. It became a company with a responsibility to its shareholders. It became a commodity which could be bought and sold like a bar of soap, or a loaf of bread on any given day of any given week.

Had the government of the day not intervened, United would have been bought out lock, stock and barrel by Rupert Murdoch years ago. This time there was no fair-trading commission to ride to the rescue. This time the prospective buyer slapped down his money and he got what he wanted. So all those Old Trafford directors who were so eager to turn their club into a plc company can stop shedding those crocodile tears.

You made Manchester United a sellable commodity - nobody else. And now you'll have to live with the consequences. You reap what you sow.

But is Glazer's takeover coup the unmitigated disaster being predicted throughout this city today? Is it the end of Manchester United as we've known it? Will thousands of Reds diehards tear up their season tickets and never set foot again inside the Theatre of Dreams again for as long as they live. Speaking as a City fan and with hand on heart, I hope the answer to all these questions is `No.'

Like every United supporter, I have grave misgivings about why Glazer should move heaven and earth to acquire a controlling interest at Old Trafford. A resident of Tampa Bay in Florida, he has no background in football and no feel for the traditions and history of the club he now owns.

Has he heard of Duncan Edwards? Does he know what Munich means other than that it's a city in Germany? I very much doubt it.

And Glazer is no Roman Abramovich. He's not bought United with his own money as Abramovich did with Chelsea. Up to £500m of Glazer's £790m bid was borrowed from various financial institutions. How will he pay back those loans? He won't. His latest possession - Manchester United - will do that for him. No background in football and, quite likely, no real interest either.

A massive debt being heaped on the club he's just purchased. And the pride and joy of at least half of Manchester being owned and run by a businessman on the other side of the Atlantic.

Glazer's conquest of the Old Trafford Empire doesn't seem to have much going for it, does it? Well, don't condemn it before you've tried it. It might taste a bit more palatable than you thought.

Extracted from manchesteronline.co.uk

[RVN]

more depressing news, we may even be kicked out of CL if the debts can't be settled. :mad:



Debt could affect European place

Glazer's takeover could jeapordise future participation in Europe

Staff and agencies
Friday May 13, 2005


Uefa have added to the misery of Manchester United fans by stating that any debt imposed on the club by new owner Malcolm Glazer could affect their future participation in European competition.

Uefa's executive committee are expected to approve new, tougher licensing rules in September which are likely to come into force at the start of the 2007-08 season. If Manchester United are heavily in debt at the time their licence could be reviewed and, if it was revoked, they could be refused access to whichever Uefa competition they had qualified for, a spokesman for European soccer's governing body said.

Under present Uefa licensing regulations, a club can compete in continental competitions only if it is granted a licence by its national association. This is done automatically as long as the club does not owe money to other clubs on transfer deals or salaries to any of its employees whether backroom staff or players. The licensing rules are currently being revised by Uefa's lawyers who are expected to include new regulations regarding debts to banks.

"The idea is to make the regulations more progressive, but it will not be possible to impose a limit of say, 60m euros of debt across the board because there are so many differences in the finances of all clubs in Europe", announced a Uefa spokesman. "However, if one club was permanently in debt to the banks, and the debt showed no sign of clearing or in fact got bigger year by year, then we would look very closely at that situation and then the licence of that club would have to be reviewed."

Glazer took control of United yesterday after a £790m takeover offer. He has yet to spell out his financing plans but fans fear the takeover will load heavy debt on to the club and have voiced their extreme displeasure at the news of the American billionaire's takeover.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1483487,00.html

[Raul7]

more depressing news, we may even be kicked out of CL if the debts can't be settled. :mad:



Debt could affect European place

Glazer's takeover could jeapordise future participation in Europe

Staff and agencies
Friday May 13, 2005


Uefa have added to the misery of Manchester United fans by stating that any debt imposed on the club by new owner Malcolm Glazer could affect their future participation in European competition.

Uefa's executive committee are expected to approve new, tougher licensing rules in September which are likely to come into force at the start of the 2007-08 season. If Manchester United are heavily in debt at the time their licence could be reviewed and, if it was revoked, they could be refused access to whichever Uefa competition they had qualified for, a spokesman for European soccer's governing body said.

Under present Uefa licensing regulations, a club can compete in continental competitions only if it is granted a licence by its national association. This is done automatically as long as the club does not owe money to other clubs on transfer deals or salaries to any of its employees whether backroom staff or players. The licensing rules are currently being revised by Uefa's lawyers who are expected to include new regulations regarding debts to banks.

"The idea is to make the regulations more progressive, but it will not be possible to impose a limit of say, 60m euros of debt across the board because there are so many differences in the finances of all clubs in Europe", announced a Uefa spokesman. "However, if one club was permanently in debt to the banks, and the debt showed no sign of clearing or in fact got bigger year by year, then we would look very closely at that situation and then the licence of that club would have to be reviewed."

Glazer took control of United yesterday after a £790m takeover offer. He has yet to spell out his financing plans but fans fear the takeover will load heavy debt on to the club and have voiced their extreme displeasure at the news of the American billionaire's takeover.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1483487,00.html


knn, this bloody Glazer is bringing a lot of **** to Utd sia...... :s27:

[chengsun]

yulee, do u find yourself a very persimistic guy? always talk about those bad things, think onli about negative side, isnt this kind of live difficult? look at the bright side, and do something to your life and the thing u love in your life.

this is not the time to moan!

[Ch3tah_39]

wtf!! alamak i gonna faint liao :s27:

[chengsun]

i have a question: can a player buy his own club's share?

2nd question: where is our oldies now while the supporters are fighting for the club's destiny? where is sir bobby charlton? where is bryan robson? where is steve bruce? i am just wondering, shldnt they at least say something, or i think they are more than capable, do something?

[jamomatt]

more depressing news, we may even be kicked out of CL if the debts can't be settled. :mad:



Debt could affect European place

Glazer's takeover could jeapordise future participation in Europe

Staff and agencies
Friday May 13, 2005


Uefa have added to the misery of Manchester United fans by stating that any debt imposed on the club by new owner Malcolm Glazer could affect their future participation in European competition.

Uefa's executive committee are expected to approve new, tougher licensing rules in September which are likely to come into force at the start of the 2007-08 season. If Manchester United are heavily in debt at the time their licence could be reviewed and, if it was revoked, they could be refused access to whichever Uefa competition they had qualified for, a spokesman for European soccer's governing body said.

Under present Uefa licensing regulations, a club can compete in continental competitions only if it is granted a licence by its national association. This is done automatically as long as the club does not owe money to other clubs on transfer deals or salaries to any of its employees whether backroom staff or players. The licensing rules are currently being revised by Uefa's lawyers who are expected to include new regulations regarding debts to banks.

"The idea is to make the regulations more progressive, but it will not be possible to impose a limit of say, 60m euros of debt across the board because there are so many differences in the finances of all clubs in Europe", announced a Uefa spokesman. "However, if one club was permanently in debt to the banks, and the debt showed no sign of clearing or in fact got bigger year by year, then we would look very closely at that situation and then the licence of that club would have to be reviewed."

Glazer took control of United yesterday after a £790m takeover offer. He has yet to spell out his financing plans but fans fear the takeover will load heavy debt on to the club and have voiced their extreme displeasure at the news of the American billionaire's takeover.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1483487,00.html
Ey I actually consider this good news! Imagine how Glazer will react when we lose the income from the champs league as a result of him buying out the club. This might force him to rethink.

[AgentVX]

Any of you guys going to help the cause by buying shares? I'm seriously thinking about it...
http://www.shareholdersunited.org/ <- if that doesn't work then try the forum http://www.suforum.org/forum/index.php

[RVN]

Carlos fury at Mikel situation

Carlos Demands Authorities Act On Mikel Saga

United's coach Carlos Queiroz has demanded football's authorities clamp down on the "jungle rules" that he says have been used to "kidnap" transfer target John Obi Mikel.

The Reds announced two weeks ago that the highly-rated Nigerian youth international had signed from his Norwegian club FC Lyn Oslo.

United have officially complained to the Premier League, asking them to investigate what Carlos Queiroz described as the "kidnapping" of the player.

John Obi Mikel was in London yesterday with his agents, which led to reports claiming he was there to hold talks with Chelsea, who also coveted the talented teenager.

Mikel appeared on television in an interview with Sky Sports saying that he had been pressured into signing for United.

The midfielder's comments came as a surprise to everyone at Old Trafford, who on the evidence of speaking to Mikel believed he had made the "decision of his life" to join United.

On Friday, Queiroz was furious that a young player should be coerced and shepherded into changing his mind.

"We cannot live with these jungle rules," the assistant boss told Century radio. "We cannot accept that and the institutions must stop this.

"It is unnacceptable that a young boy of 18 can be almost kidnapped from the country where he was playing, travel to London and within one day talk on the television with an unhappy face.

"Everybody felt the boy had just made the best decision of his entire life, at least from a professional point of view. Next game he comes on TV and says that he signed the agreement under pressure.

"Everybody understands something happened between these two events. We know what happened - this is not original. This kind of thing has happened before with other players.

"We have an official position now. We have complained to the Premier League and we expect them and Uefa and Fifa to come out with a strong decision.

"We expect that some kind of clarification will happen today. We know nothing about what has happened and who is behind these movements and who must take responsibility for what has happened.

"The most important thing is that we did everything according to the spirit and the rules, that's because this is Manchester United.

"We expect the insitutions to make tough decisions against those who do not respect the rules."

Asked if he thought Mikel would eventually be a United player, Carlos responded: "I hope he is. The signs we have had from outside and with previous decisions regarding players in similar situations are not good.

"We hope and understand that football simply cannot live in such an anarchic environment. We are still positive."

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=175542&itype=466&icategoryid=120

Hey come on! We sign a legally binding deal with a player voluntarily after legally negotiating with his club. Then along come Chelski and start screaming foul. Suddenly, the player "complains" that he wasn't given fair time to consider and his agent is sniffing around Romans wallet, yeah right of course, the mafiaski didn't go to Norway. Where di player disappear to, who was he seeing? Investigation is necessary and quick and chelski must get punished severly for it for their cunning acts. :s27:

[stam]

So many things happened this few days for United!! :eek:

is Glazer sent by Abramvoic to destory man united? :s27:

[gxelan]

wah...realli sad...man utd almost gone in a day..

[RVN]

Glazer bid offically launched

Since the entire bid is about 12 pages long I'm not posting it - in summary it is for #3.00 per share as expected. No restrictive covenants regarding seat prices, or transfer funds are included in the offer - which means any promises are non-binding (no surprise here). Perhaps the most important section surounds the financing of the deal and here I've copied directly:


a) the Glazer family will provide £272 million in equity contributions
towards the Offer, comprising 74,149,233 Manchester United Shares already owned
by Red Football Partnership at a price of 300 pence for each Manchester United
Share, as well as cash;

b) Red Joint Venture will provide £275 million of funding for the Offer by
the issue to certain investors of the non-cash pay Preferred Securities, which
will have no security over, or recourse to, Manchester United's assets: and

c) certain lenders will provide to Red a £265 million loan facility which,
subject to prior shareholder approval by way of special resolution, will have
security over Manchester United's assets.

For the purpose of this paragraph, "Offer" includes the acquisition of, or
agreement to acquire, any Manchester United Shares by Red (or any other member of the Red Football Group) prior to this announcement.

Rothschild is satisfied that resources are available to Red which are sufficient
to satisfy the cash consideration payable to Manchester United Shareholders in the event of full acceptance of the Offer.


http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/IFSPages/MarketNewsPopup.aspx?id=1003673&source=RNS

f*ck liao, we are going to be in £265m in debts once he take over. :mad:

[AhHuat]

glazer come in...

now SAF and david gill future in doubt...

SAF considering retirement ....


god bless manutd

[RuMmYtUb]

I'm just lost for words... i guess the same goes for u guys, judging by the decreasing posts in this thread.

The day just getting more bleak as the clock ticks.

Haiz.

[AhHuat]

I'm just lost for words... i guess the same goes for u guys, judging by the decreasing posts in this thread.

The day just getting more bleak as the clock ticks.

Haiz.
watever happens...
even if they becomes another leeds ,
my heart will still be with manutd

been a fan since primary sch days....nothing can change that

[Yellowfin]

I'm just lost for words... i guess the same goes for u guys, judging by the decreasing posts in this thread.

The day just getting more bleak as the clock ticks.

Haiz.

The post get less because end of season and most of us is surfing the uk Man utd forum.

[RuMmYtUb]

watever happens...
even if they becomes another leeds ,
my heart will still be with manutd

been a fan since primary sch days....nothing can change that

Me too butties.

May the Force be with Utd. :s47:

[RuMmYtUb]

The post get less because end of season and most of us is surfing the uk Man utd forum.

Which forum? Care to pass me the link ? :)

[AhHuat]

Me too butties.

May the Force be with Utd. :s47:
ya.
there will be a silver lining in every dark cloud :)

[Yellowfin]

Which forum? Care to pass me the link ? :)

www.redcafe.net

[o0KelviN0o]

Malcolm Glazer, the US tycoon, further tightened his grip on Manchester United PLC, with his Red Football Ltd takeover vehicle now claiming 71.8 pct of the Premiership football club's equity.

News of the US tycoon's latest holding accompanied details of his unconditional formal 300 pence a share offer for the Premiership football club that has not been recommended by its PLC board.

The offer values Man Utd at 790.3 mln stg and represents a 13.2 pct premium to its closing price of 265 pence on May 11 -- the latest business day before Glazer's offer was made.

Yesterday, the owner of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers American football team, acquired the 28.7 pct stake in Man Utd held by JP McManus and John Magnier, the Irish horse racing millionaires, through their Cubic Expression vehicle.

The Cubic purchase, also at 300 pence a share, took Glazer's Man Utd holding to 56.9 pct and under UK takeover rules triggered the mandatory offer for the club.

Glazer also picked up a 6.54 pct stake owned by mining magnate Harry Dobson, taking his holding to 63.4 pct.

Further market purchases of stock have taken Glazer to the 71.8 pct figure announced this afternoon.

He needs 75 pct to take Man Utd private, removing it from the Stock Exchange.

-----------------------------------------------

Mr D A Gill (Chief Executive) has purchased 744 ordinary shares. Mr Gill now has an interest in 170,590 ordinary shares in the Company.

Gill is helping out!!! That's good news!!!!

[o0KelviN0o]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/IFSPages/MarketNewsPopup.aspx?id=1003673&source=RNS

[PeterPan]

We are so screwed!!!!!

[wawawa]

its really hard to fight against glazer...

[MatrixFanatic]

Haiz. Enough about Gayzer.

Just watched the EPL preview and they showed highlights from the Charlton V Manutd game.(Reserve team).

All I can say is Rossi's first two goals tok kong mans. :eek:

[o0KelviN0o]

Haiz. Enough about Gayzer.

Just watched the EPL preview and they showed highlights from the Charlton V Manutd game.(Reserve team).

All I can say is Rossi's first two goals tok kong mans. :eek:

he's a damn good talent :)

[RVN]

Rossi is going to be a real gem for us in the future. :) Anyway here is the report of that match.



Rossi Runs Riot As United Seal Quadruple


http://tinyurl.com/7obm8


FA Premier Reserve League Play-Off
Charlton Athletic 2
Manchester United 4
The Valley, Charlton

A stunning hat-trick from Giuseppe Rossi gave United the perfect end to their all-conquering season against Charlton Athletic in the FA Premier Reserve league playoff.
The Italian striker hit two fabulous left-footed curlers and then prodded home from close-range to give Ricky Sbragia's side an unprecedented Quadruple.

The evening was tainted by a serious injury to French striker David Bellion, who was stretchered off after just five minutes with a suspected broken ankle.

Rossi put United ahead after 12 minutes. He received the ball on the right side of the area before jinking inside and sending an unstoppable effort into the far corner.

United's lead was doubled after 52 minutes by David Jones. The captain hit a fierce left-footed free-kick into the top right-hand corner, although Addicks keeper Darren Randolph might have done better but could only flick the ball into the net.

The hosts were almost immediately back in the game, however, as Lloyd Sam converted a twice-taken penalty kick after he had been initially fouled by David Fox.

Charlton's resurgence was broken as Rossi popped up just a minute later with another superb left-footed strike into the far corner.

The Italian completed his hat-trick 18 minutes from time, showing remarkably quick feet to stab in the rebound after his initial close-range header had been well parried.

Charlton did muster some further consolation as James Walker fired in from six yards out, but United held firm to clinch their fourth trophy of a stunning season.

United team: Heaton, Picken, Tierney, Pique, McShane, Fox, Eagles, D Jones, Bellion (Campbell, 5), Rossi, Martin.
Subs not used: Ngalula, Crockett, Bardsley, R Jones.

Report by Steve Bartram.

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=175222&itype=466&icategoryid=624

[NUfreedom]

Hi, thanks for posting the match report. Yup, I would agree with u that he is the player whom everyone should look out for in the future. But, Man Utd need to buy new players to strengthen the squad. The current squad is not good enough to challenge for more trophies.

[Ronaldo7]

Sports tycoon Malcolm Glazer has unveiled details of his £790m ($1.5bn) takeover bid for Manchester United.

In a statement on Friday, Mr Glazer confirmed that the offer would be 300 pence for each Manchester United share, valuing the club at about £790.3m.

He now owns 71.8% of United - after buying the 28.7% stake of Irish racing tycoons JP McManus and John Magnier - but needs 75% to delist the club.

He plans to borrow £265m to fund the deal, set against the club's assets.

He will also raise another £275m by issuing securities but this debt will not be held against the club's assets. And he will use £272m of his own cash, in the form of Man United equity already owned by him.

"We are delighted to make this offer to acquire one of the pre-eminent football clubs in the world," said Mr Glazer's son Joel who is expected to take charge of the running of the club on a day-to-day basis.

"We are long-term sports investors and avid Manchester United fans."

In response, Manchester United said it would wait for the "full facts" to become available before advising shareholders whether to accept the offer from Mr Glazer.

Fight back

The buyout is still facing fierce resistance from United fans.

Further demonstrations are expected to follow Thursday night's angry scenes outside the club's Old Trafford ground where five fans were arrested after hundreds gathered to protest, armed with banners and burning effigies of Malcolm Glazer.

Fans still hope to stop Mr Glazer.

Supporters already own an estimated 18% of the club and have tried to secure financial backing from Japanese bank Nomura to buy more shares to block his attempt to delist the club.

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/business/4542913.stm

[usjag_18]

Guys, as long as Glazer didn't get 75% of shares, Man Utd still in hopes. So which means as long as the remaining supporters dun sell their shares, we are still safe! But I am really disappointed with wat the 2 IRISH tycoons did to Man Utd. :s27: They shld be PUNISHED by the HOLY GOD!!! Betrayer!!!


Anyway, I am glad that Giuseppe Rossi is playing real well. Maybe we can test him by letting him, Wayne Rooney & Dong Fangzhou to play together when they are going for the Asia tour. What do U guys think????

[Ronaldo7]

heard quite alot of posistive from the chinese media about dong , hope to see him make his debut for us :)

and rooney is going to face a charge of driving without due care and attention after an accident at a shopping centre . what's next ? :s47: :

[RVN]

Guys, as long as Glazer didn't get 75% of shares, Man Utd still in hopes. So which means as long as the remaining supporters dun sell their shares, we are still safe! But I am really disappointed with wat the 2 IRISH tycoons did to Man Utd. :s27: They shld be PUNISHED by the HOLY GOD!!! Betrayer!!!



He get 75% by monday sadly. He now own 74% of United shares. :mad:

Glazer raises stake in Man Utd to 74 pct - source

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. sports tycoon Malcolm Glazer has raised his stake in Manchester United to about 74 percent, a source close to the matter said on Friday.

The move brings the American financier to within a whisker of a key 75 percent threshold, above which Glazer can take full control of the 15 times English soccer champions and delist the shares.

The Glazer family said earlier in a statement it owned 71.8 percent of United, but the source said banking advisers had continued buying shares in the open market.

"We will definitely get to 75 percent by Monday," the source said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=2005-05-13T154537Z_01_N13348348_RTRIDST_0_SPORTS-LEISURE-MANUNITED-GLAZER-STAKE-DC.XML

[NUfreedom]

Let's wait and see what plans he have for Man Utd.

[RVN]

One of those glazer cnuts will most likely say something when he reaches 75% I am pretty sure of that. If he is at all commited to United he has got to sell his American club Tampa Bay in my opinion to pay off the debts. I wish he had bought someone else instead though. :mad:

[AhHuat]

we cant do anything now
lets see wat he is up to in near future

[usjag_18]

Rossi And Blake Have Bright Futures - Ferguson


Giuseppe Rossi and Sylvan Blake both have bright futures in the game, according to Sir Alex Ferguson, after the two teenagers were handed Player of the Year awards.

Forwards Rossi, 18, and Blake, 19, formed a clinical partnership in the Reserves this season, scoring 33 goals between them as the Reds clinched the Pontin's and Premier Reserve League titles.

Rossi, who joined from Parma in the summer, won the Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year award after some superb performances for the Reds' second string.

Ferguson predicts the diminutive Italian has an exciting career ahead of him at Old Trafford.

He said: "I am very pleased with Rossi. He is a young lad who came from Italy and he has settled in and performed at a high level, especially when he has been introduced into the first team.

"He handled being brought into the Carling Cup games and I am delighted that he has received the award.

"Rossi can look forward to a terrific career," the Reds boss told ManUtd.com.

Blake, who suffered a broken leg in February which prematurely ended his season, is a graduate of United's 2003 FA Youth Cup-winning side.

The Denzil Haroun Reserve Player of the Year trophy is just reward for polishing the edges to his game in a season that saw him hit 15 league goals.

"He is a great testament to youth development at Manchester United," Sir Alex said of Blake.

"He was a young boy with raw talent when he first arrived and he has become a great forward.

"He was unlucky when he got a bad break mid-season but he'll be back next year. He can take encouragement from this award, he truly deserves it."

Blake and Rossi helped the Reds to the Pontin's Holiday League and Premier Reserve League titles as well as the Pontin's League Cup during a highly-successful campaign for the second string.

Rossi scored four goals in the Pontin's League and 13 for the Premier Reserves, while Blake hit four and 11 in the respective leagues.

Report by Ben Hibbs.

Source (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsId=174625&itype=466&icategoryid=120)


/*******************************************************************************

Hey, it's not so bad, at least we got some good news with the youngsters, except for Mikel's news. How could he said Man Utd representatives stressed him. Nwdys, players are even BIGGER than representatives or watever sh.it in a club. Nonsensical player. If he dun wanna to play for Man Utd, then dun sign lah. Sign liao, still say we threaten him. Bl00dy h3ll....

But nevertheless, glad to know we got two v.gd young players, Giuseppe Rossi & Sylvan Blake.
********************************************************************************/

[usjag_18]

heard quite alot of posistive from the chinese media about dong , hope to see him make his debut for us :)

and rooney is going to face a charge of driving without due care and attention after an accident at a shopping centre . what's next ? :s47: :


Kaoz... They are always targetting our players! A little bit problem also wanna to find us... Kaoz... If other clubs, maybe just let him off w/o even saying his name & club's name! Sh.it.ty english tabloids!!! Can't they just leave our players alone??? :s27: :mad:

Ya, DONG Fangzhou will be a good lead for us to hit into China market. LOlx... But hor, @ the same time, I am worried. Hope Glazer will not do anything stupid that destroy the plan of Man Utd hit into China mrkt.

[RVN]

74.81% he now owned. :mad:

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=sportsNews&storyID=727503&section=news&src=rss/uk/sportsNews

[usjag_18]

He get 75% by monday sadly. He now own 74% of United shares. :mad:

Glazer raises stake in Man Utd to 74 pct - source

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. sports tycoon Malcolm Glazer has raised his stake in Manchester United to about 74 percent, a source close to the matter said on Friday.

The move brings the American financier to within a whisker of a key 75 percent threshold, above which Glazer can take full control of the 15 times English soccer champions and delist the shares.

The Glazer family said earlier in a statement it owned 71.8 percent of United, but the source said banking advisers had continued buying shares in the open market.

"We will definitely get to 75 percent by Monday," the source said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=2005-05-13T154537Z_01_N13348348_RTRIDST_0_SPORTS-LEISURE-MANUNITED-GLAZER-STAKE-DC.XML


Wat the..... Hw can that be??? He only got 57.8% in ytd afternoon, then 70.8% this evening... Nw it's 74%??? WHo did he get hold with man??? He's superman or what???

Aiya, if he got good plans, it's good, but if he's out to destroy Man Utd. I hope he wun do that to us!!! :sad:

[o0KelviN0o]

74.81% he now owned. :mad:

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=sportsNews&storyID=727503&section=news&src=rss/uk/sportsNews

Malcolm Glazer, the US tycoon, further tightened his grip on Manchester United PLC, with his Red Football Ltd takeover vehicle now claiming 74.81 pct of the Premiership football club's equity.

Glazer now stands on the brink of the 75 pct holding he needs under stock market rules to take Man Utd private.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/IFSPages/MarketNewsPopup.aspx?id=140843&source=NEWS

THAT'S IT, GUYS!

now we wait for his 100 million :s8:

[usjag_18]

74.81% he now owned. :mad:

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=sportsNews&storyID=727503&section=news&src=rss/uk/sportsNews
WAT!!!! To delist Man UTd!!! WTF is he thinking!!!! Bl00dy Glazer!!! He's pi55ing me off man....

[o0KelviN0o]

WAT!!!! To delist Man UTd!!! WTF is he thinking!!!! Bl00dy Glazer!!! He's pi55ing me off man....

after delisting... no more stock options, no one can offer to buy Man Utd back easily off the London Stock Exchange...

he can then do whatever he wants...

even the 24+% held by the fans will be no use...

what I'm afraid is that if revenues dun come in fast for him, our players will go... :o

[usjag_18]

after delisting... no more stock options, no one can offer to buy Man Utd back easily off the London Stock Exchange...

he can then do whatever he wants...

even the 24+% held by the fans will be no use...

what I'm afraid is that if revenues dun come in fast for him, our players will go... :o
He's really 100% a 奸商 (PROFITEER or SLY BIZMAN if you think ur chinese is bad and dun understand)!!! :mad: :s27:

[o0KelviN0o]

but then again... he promised 100 million over the next 5 years...

so, who knows... :)

[ceLsius]

Haha... if he does take over, overnight debt for Man United. :s13:
No $$ wanna act like got $$..... next season dunno where Man United stands in the league.

[ceLsius]

but then again... he promised 100 million over the next 5 years...

so, who knows... :)

"I don't quite see what this chap is going to add that the previous regime hasn't already tried," he added.

"Manchester United have, for the past five, six or seven years, even under Peter Kenyon, tried to exploit every single thing that they sell and represent.

"I don't see what this fellow is going to bring to the party. Americans aren't particularly interested in English soccer clubs, as they call them. It's not a new thing as there are a few Americans interested in it, but not a lot. I can't understand what he's got in mind.


http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=276465&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Sugar+can't+fathom+Glazer+bid&channel=Football_Home

What's left over the areas that Peter Kenyon have not exploit when he is in Man U? $100 million? think again.... more likely furthur $100 million in debt. :s13:

[usjag_18]

but then again... he promised 100 million over the next 5 years...

so, who knows... :)
It's always pros & cons. We never know what will happen. *sigh* Supporters also cannot do anything if he wanna to delist. Just hope he wun.

[RVN]

Haha... if he does take over, overnight debt for Man United. :s13:
No $$ wanna act like got $$..... next season dunno where Man United stands in the league.

stop you gloating and resoting to your petty jibes at us, feck off, you muppet. :mad:

[AgentVX]

Sad, sad day for Man United. We're gonna get owned (in more than 1 way) by some american fag :mad:

[AhHuat]

It's always pros & cons. We never know what will happen. *sigh* Supporters also cannot do anything if he wanna to delist. Just hope he wun.
so long nv cums in chat liaos :o

[Ronaldo_7]

watever happens...
even if they becomes another leeds ,
my heart will still be with manutd

been a fan since primary sch days....nothing can change that
same here... Manchester United Fan forever

[Ronaldo_7]

after delisting... no more stock options, no one can offer to buy Man Utd back easily off the London Stock Exchange...

he can then do whatever he wants...

even the 24+% held by the fans will be no use...

what I'm afraid is that if revenues dun come in fast for him, our players will go... :o
delist meaning? no more PLC ?? :s22: promise can be easily broken...

[usjag_18]

so long nv cums in chat liaos :o
MIA... lolx... :s13:

Ya lor, these few days went early in the morning to my aunt's office to help out. So tired by the time I came home. Only online on MSN a few mins, then go to my BED SWEET BED.... Dead tired to even stand up. lolx...

[usjag_18]

delist meaning? no more PLC ?? :s22: promise can be easily broken...
Haiz... Just hope that Glazer wun make us lost the chances to go into CL... He better makes sure that Man Utd will be safe in his hands... Otherwise, he will eventually get hit by those local supporters from UK.

[Ronaldo_7]

haiz sian liao larz...one day so many thing can happen...:sad:

[Raul7]

Haiz... Just hope that Glazer wun make us lost the chances to go into CL... He better makes sure that Man Utd will be safe in his hands... Otherwise, he will eventually get hit by those local supporters from UK.

really hope somebody can finish him off..... :s27:

[PeterPan]

this one's going to be another leeds or Chelsea under Ken Bates.......sure down the drain....

[o0KelviN0o]

Malcolm Glazer has now issued the summary terms of his offer (Offer) to buy Manchester United plc (MU) and the full offer document will be sent out to MU shareholders, probably after the season has ended and the holiday season has started. SU will be reviewing the full Offer document with its advisers, and will issue its own recommendations to those MU shareholders who have not already sold to Glazer.

Glazer is currently buying in the market to achieve the 75% he needs to attempt to take the company private and leverage the company’s assets with part of the debt he is taking on to buy MU. If he achieves this target, he will call a general meeting of MU to pass a special resolution to re-register the company as a private limited company, an essential legal element in his plan to transfer his acquisition debt to MU.

[chengsun]

but then again... he promised 100 million over the next 5 years...

so, who knows... :)
100 million over 5 years? he got the cheek to say this? aveage 20 million 1 year? a lots issit? cant even buy 1 rooney or ronaldo!

[yulee]

The real villains in British football are the FA's dim and weak executives
Tom Bower Guardian
Saturday May 14, 2005

Despite its seedy, stupid and selfish reputation, English football still attracts vain tycoons seeking glory and fame. Malcolm Glazer, the tough American businessman, is just the latest lusting for immortality after a grubby but profitable commercial career, by investing in a sport that will guarantee him worldwide fame and massage his ego.

Superficially, Glazer's rewards seem attractive. For his £790m, Glazer will be entitled to sit like an emperor in the centre of Old Trafford's directors' box while millions of fans across the world cheer his team. Wherever he travels, he will be recognised as the owner of the world's most famous club. Finally, more than other club owners, he will be relentlessly pursued for pronouncements on all issues, enhancing his status as a sage.

But like so many other tycoons attracted to football, Glazer and his son Joel - who is said to be the genuine football fan - will also discover the downside to his successful coup. Aspiring owners of England's football clubs are the victims of self-delusion about the game's real financial costs and profits. In recent years English football has accumulated serious problems and there is only a remote chance that solutions can be implemented before successive crises of finance and morale devastate the game, as has happened in Italy.

The rot within English football is epitomised by Manchester United's recent history. After the club, beloved by generations of fans, was floated on the stock exchange in 1991 to enrich some greedy directors, the shareholders gradually lost control of its destiny. Unlike the major Spanish clubs, which remain as cooperatives under the loving management of their fans and local authorities, Manchester United was allowed to become a speculators' toy. Accordingly, the only victors of the recent sale are the Irish investors JP McManus and John Magnier, who are estimated to have earned between £80m and £90m, and in return have contributed nothing to football. Everyone else - especially the fans and the club itself - is a loser, and that will eventually be true for the Glazers themselves, who have insufficient funds and knowledge to plan the club's survival in the global market.

The real villains of football's rot are the short-sighted and intellectually limited executives at the Football Association. Notorious for their blazers, passion for freebies and parochial outlook, the executives and members of the FA are amateurs, stubbornly loth to reform themselves. Unwilling to prevent corruption among agents, remove conflicts of interest among club owners and cure indiscipline among players, they have exposed themselves as worse than impotent.

To placate United fans' screams of frustration the FA should, as regulators, have examined the Glazers' background and their intentions. The fact that the club is a public company does not prevent the regulator demanding satisfaction of certain standards to ensure the wellbeing of the whole game. Unfortunately, the many examples of the FA's disastrous management in the past suggest that initiative will be ignored.

Among the examples of past failure were the FA's hapless attempt to host next year's World Cup, commissioning an unsustainably expensive stadium at Wembley, leasing their own unaffordable headquarters in Soho, tolerating the declining status of the FA Cup and paying an excessive £4m annual salary to persuade Sven-Goran Eriksson to stay as England's unsuccessful manager.

Faced with such an indictment, one might imagine that the FA's executives would be shamed into reform or resignation. Instead they remain defiant and risk allowing the professional game to disintegrate by failing to respond to the most critical challenge: limiting the dominance of the mighty Premiership.

One serious consequence of the imbalance between the 20 clubs in the Premiership and the other 140,000 FA-affiliated clubs is that the sport is excessively dependent on revenue from television and on foreign managers, players and now owners.

The insatiable demands of Sky TV are only tolerated to satisfy the financial demands of shareholders, which are certain to be inflamed by the foreign investors who have risked huge sums. Again the FA should intervene, but pleads impotence.

No other country allows the crown jewels of its major sport to become the uncon trolled playthings of men whose probity is not questioned. Glazer's commercial past is unknown to the FA and that ignorance will continue. That wilful refusal to judge whether major clubs' owners are "fit and proper" and whether their management decisions enhance or damage the sport is surely unacceptable - not least because more foreign ownership of major clubs will inevitably condemn football to wither as the national sport.

Although more intelligent than most British players and managers, the highly paid foreigners dominating the Premiership have no interest in developing and sustaining England's sport. Instead of investing in British youth to re-establish close relations between the clubs and the fans, and encouraging football's grassroots to strengthen the national game, the foreigners are understandably only interested in short-term personal glory.

The plight of football - reflected by the declining number of spectators at most matches - mirrors a common malaise. Across the whole of Britain's commercial life, vast quantities of imports have replaced production in Britain's defunct factories; the sale of major institutions to more astute foreign investors has rendered Britain an assembly house; and the appointment of non-Britons as chief executives confirms an absence of local talent.

Glazer's success in buying United, concluded amid the deafening silence of the Football Association, confirms the so-called regulator's infirmity. But another event this week confirms the reason for English football's vulnerability.

Among Glazer's new assets is Rio Ferdinand, Manchester United's famous £30m defender. Despite receiving successive penalties for driving offences, Ferdinand, also notorious for his excessive visits to nightclubs, was recently stopped on the M6 motorway after he overtook - while driving at an impressive 106mph - a marked police car.

With the help of Pini Zahavi, his cigar-puffing multimillionaire agent, Ferdinand has now demanded a weekly pay increase of £50,000. Apparently, £70,000 per week is insufficient and Ferdinand wants £120,000, despite his contribution to Manchester United standing an unprecedented 20 points behind Chelsea in the Premiership. If Glazer chooses to ignore Ferdinand's demand, he might reflect that Ferguson has actually offered his defender £100,000 to prevent Chelsea snapping him up.

Ever since Roman Abramovich, the Russian oligarch, was allowed by the Football Association to buy Chelsea despite the dubious origins of his fortune, English football has become more fractured than ever. By spending well over £200m on players, Abramovich threatens the tattered fabric of the Premiership. The arrival of the Glazers compounds the problem. Unfortunately, there is no happy ending in sight. On the contrary, the greedy, dim-witted natives involved in football seem destined to steer their cash cow towards an ugly cataclysm.

· Tom Bower is the author of Broken Dreams: Vanity, Greed and the Souring of British Football

[mobo]

what will happen to manutd after he take over? a bit lost here, :s11: :eek:

simple. he will revert Man Utd back to private ownership (under the Glazer family with his fat son Joel as boss) with total control of everything. all remaining shareholder hongkan liao... which is why so many are scrambling to sell off their shares at the good price he is offering.

that's how a hostile takeover happens... the board and much of the shareholder dun wan also nevermind... once the predator gained the foothold the 2 irish horsetraders decided to give him... the ball started rolling.

problem is that this is a leveraged buyout... meaning that he is borrowing 540mil pounds for all this... like you borrow from the bank to buy a house...everyday from now onwards you have to pay a regular amount to service the mortgage. the glazers are worth 1billion but buying a 1.5billion club...on top of all their other expenses like running the tampa bay nfl team.

see? while it is all legal and technically possible, man utd has turned overnight from a debt-free cash-machine into a privately-owned mortgaged property... if say glazer dies next week and his sons gamble and lose on another business deal next month... if they cannot repay the banks, the banks may seize man utd and have to break it up and sell off the assets to regain their money...like what happens if you default on your mortgage payments and the bank forecloses on you, evicting your family and selling off your house to regain their money.

that's why glazer is such a nice man.

[yulee]

FACTBOX-How Glazer will finance Manchester Utd takeover
Fri May 13, 2005 6:51 PM BST

LONDON, May 13 (Reuters) - Malcolm Glazer's takeover of British soccer legends Manchester United has sparked the fury of United fans who fear the U.S. financier will cream the club's profits to pay back the mountains of debt he used to buy it.

Below is a break down of how Glazer intends to fund his 790 million pound ($1.47 billion) takeover.

* Under the deal, Glazer plans roll his 28.1 percent stake in United, worth about 222 million pounds, into the new club and top that up with his own cash so that his overall personal contribution to the takeover is about 272 million pounds.

* Banks and funds, led by U.S. investment bank J.P. Morgan Chase & Co, will provide a 265 million pound loan to Glazer which will immediately be transferred to Manchester United's own balance sheet and secured against United's assets.

* The banks will also provide an additional 275 million pound loan in return for which they will be given preferred securities, like preference shares, in United. Glazer will have the right to buy back those securities from the banks over time.

* The three figures add up to 812 million pounds, which is more than the 790 million pounds Glazer needs to buy the club's shares. The difference of 22 million pounds will go towards paying Glazer's advisers' fees as well as funding the previously announced expansion of United's football ground at Old Trafford.

* Glazer's bid announcement gave no details of any plans to develop the club, or of financial resources that might be made available to it.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2005/03/30/gallery8.jpg

[nakitas]

Juz read all tos little articles frm ManUtd.com, veri scary sia... Tos headlines is tuanting enuff to kill off any last hope... *Sigh*

[RuMmYtUb]

It's obvious this Glazer **** aint not Abramovich

[o0KelviN0o]

come on guys...

those are what ppl say... it may not be true :)

[o0KelviN0o]

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[usjag_18]

really hope somebody can finish him off..... :s27:
He might...

come on guys...

those are what ppl say... it may not be true :)

Seriously, if so many people say that, how to trust him? Did U see anyone say anything about Roman Abramovich or Silvio Berlusconi (AC Milan's former chairman)

But it's always pros & cons. Maybe he will bring some profits for us or we will killed by him. It's a risk that everyone have to take now.

[Raul7]

99 Reasons to Distrust Malcolm Glazer (http://www.suforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7292)

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King Eric has spoken...........

[nakitas]

99 Reasons to Distrust Malcolm Glazer (http://www.suforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7292)

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Wat a piece of history...

[usjag_18]

King Eric has spoken...........
Did he??? (10 chars)

[MatrixFanatic]

100 million over 5 years? he got the cheek to say this? aveage 20 million 1 year? a lots issit? cant even buy 1 rooney or ronaldo!

20 Million is a lot if Fergie knows how to spend like Wenger does. :s22:

Anyway, my father told me that Americans do business don't anyhow one. So maybe it's a blessing in disguise. But still, the thought of the club being in debt is still very scary. :eek:

[usjag_18]

Wat a piece of history...
U meant a piece of S-H-I-TT-Y history.

[Raul7]

Did he??? (10 chars)

err....i refer to o0KelviN0o signature =:p :s13:

[mobo]

20 Million is a lot if Fergie knows how to spend like Wenger does. :s22:

Anyway, my father told me that Americans do business don't anyhow one. So maybe it's a blessing in disguise. But still, the thought of the club being in debt is still very scary. :eek:

Sorry to be blunt but don't generalise like your father has done.

Glazer looks like the archetypical Jewish American Scrooge... he will screw anyone to promote himself. Bill Gate$ with his 17billion dollar charity foundation is a saint compared to this untermensch.

Maybe we can all start a fund to hire some Mexican hitmen to take him and his family out... 1 buck contribution each and we can get some hitmen at the mkt rate $10,000 per gunman... then we see who hongkan first....

[kahmun7]

What it means is... Glazer does not have as much money as Abramovich. he is financing it with a bank loan. It means he have to repay that loan. It means to do so, ticket price will go up... New players won't come in or we won't be splurging a lot for top players... means we have to make do with current players = current players are obviously either aging, or not good enough to challenge for anything = no trophies = less profits = Glazer can't repay load = we are screwed even worst than Leeds United...

[Raul7]

What it means is... Glazer does not have as much money as Abramovich. he is financing it with a bank loan. It means he have to repay that loan. It means to do so, ticket price will go up... New players won't come in or we won't be splurging a lot for top players... means we have to make do with current players = current players are obviously either aging, or not good enough to challenge for anything = no trophies = less profits = Glazer can't repay load = we are screwed even worst than Leeds United...

the debts that he owe the bank is way too big liao.......... :s27:

[croc1977]

My dear Soccerettes

I AM aware that there has been some concern raised following my takeover. Some have questioned my love of soccer and my lack of knowledge of the history of Manchester soccer club. This is unfair.

I know all about the players who made the side great — from the Buzzy Babes, through star quarterbacks like Roy Kane, wide receivers like David Beckham and Rian Gigs, the stoppers like Peter Smikel and the running-backs like the great duo of Steve and Bruce.

I know of the older players, too, like Derick Cantona and George Pest, so as you can see I am a real fan like you guys! There will obviously be changes to take us forward to next season’s Soccerbowl.

I have decided to give our most loyal fans a reward and home games will take place in the Epsom Arena, near to our main fanbase.

I have leased Old Trafford to the real Manchester side, who will use it for reserve games. The 80 seats for home games will be competitively priced at $5,000.

I have replaced the manager with a younger model. He may not be well known here but he has taken the Dallas Cowboys to many Superbowls. His name is Tom Landry.

Coach Landry has cut those strange brothers, the forgetful defender, that ginger bloke, the Welsh one and the Dutch one. We will be recruiting the best talent that the American soccer league has to offer in their places.

I hope this eases your concerns and, like me, you look forward to a very profitable future.

Malcolm

Source: The Sun UK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005220316,00.html) :s13: :s22:

[trax06]

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i could cry reading that **** man,**** him.

[blackevil_2000]

Malcolm Glazer taking over manu how true it is now n can it be change?

[Raul7]

My dear Soccerettes

I AM aware that there has been some concern raised following my takeover. Some have questioned my love of soccer and my lack of knowledge of the history of Manchester soccer club. This is unfair.

I know all about the players who made the side great — from the Buzzy Babes, through star quarterbacks like Roy Kane, wide receivers like David Beckham and Rian Gigs, the stoppers like Peter Smikel and the running-backs like the great duo of Steve and Bruce.

I know of the older players, too, like Derick Cantona and George Pest, so as you can see I am a real fan like you guys! There will obviously be changes to take us forward to next season’s Soccerbowl.

I have decided to give our most loyal fans a reward and home games will take place in the Epsom Arena, near to our main fanbase.

I have leased Old Trafford to the real Manchester side, who will use it for reserve games. The 80 seats for home games will be competitively priced at $5,000.

I have replaced the manager with a younger model. He may not be well known here but he has taken the Dallas Cowboys to many Superbowls. His name is Tom Landry.

Coach Landry has cut those strange brothers, the forgetful defender, that ginger bloke, the Welsh one and the Dutch one. We will be recruiting the best talent that the American soccer league has to offer in their places.

I hope this eases your concerns and, like me, you look forward to a very profitable future.

Malcolm

Source: The Sun UK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005220316,00.html) :s13: :s22:


wtf....the player names are totally wrong!!!!!!!!! :s27:

[RVN]

We are going to get screwed by Glazer, the amount of debts being mention and got to pay it to the bank plus high interest is scary enough. :mad:

[o0KelviN0o]

Malcolm Glazer taking over manu how true it is now n can it be change?

make him an offer??? :)

[mediacorpforever]

Dunno how the players will react to this coming Cup Final. Will they still have the mood to play with so many uncertainty surrounding the club?

[croc1977]

wtf....the player names are totally wrong!!!!!!!!! :s27:

that why he know a **** abt utd...!!!
:s45: :s16:

[o0KelviN0o]

Dunno how the players will react to this coming Cup Final. Will they still have the mood to play with so many uncertainty surrounding the club?

tmr sure happening during match... get ready to see lotsa posters... :D

these are some of the posters being put up...

http://www.suforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6424&sid=4a94666c0a18ace8229d3c0a98b006a7

[o0KelviN0o]

that why he know a **** abt utd...!!!
:s45: :s16:

that article was meant to poke fun... it's not from Glazer the fatty himself

[Raul7]

that why he know a **** abt utd...!!!
:s45: :s16:

hope at UK there got people to finish him off :s27:

[Ronaldo7]

that why he know a **** abt utd...!!!
:s45: :s16:

he don't know anything about soccer one lah . he just wants to make money using manutd for himself nia . knn :s27:

[RuMmYtUb]

Dunno how the players will react to this coming Cup Final. Will they still have the mood to play with so many uncertainty surrounding the club?

Best way to respond is to win tmr's match, as well as the FA cup.

[croc1977]

14 May 2005
DEAR BLUE DEVILS FANS..
NOT A LETTER FROM MALCOLM GLAZER

AS you all know, I've been looking to buy the United's of Manchester for a little while now.

I've also heard that some of you may not be too happy about me using, sorry, buying the club in order to reach new heights and also, that I may not be a fan.

Well fear not, as I'm writing this personal letter to let you know that i'm a genuine fan of you blue devils. I began rooting for the United's back in 1992 when our little Malcolm Jr was practising those Soccer home runs out in the yard.

I loved the way you turned defence into offence, and the way that Bobby Shearer used to top half it into the goal bag. Oh man, that play was hot.

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My son tells me that you even out-zoned your City rivals Southampton in the 4th quarter of the FA World series. As for your current team, that Rude guy is awesome!!!!

I see a profitable future at the United, with the young talent of Cristiano Rooney (man, that guy can dance!) and Peter Shilton giving us hope in defeating the evil Russian tyranny which assaults the freedom of our beloved Soccer.

With the marketing potential of those Neville brothers and that Pearce dude leading the team, we can all look to acheiving our beliefs of a better future. Especially when I add Alexei Lalas and Cobi Jones to the starting 15.

Now to you, the fans. I've been to see the United's play once before, and the respect you pay your team in silently admiring the play out on the pitch was overwhelming. Because of this, I've just purchased a new £45 million mansion in the Manchester to be close to you guys.

And more good news is I'm planning to add an extra 10,000 seats through corporate boxes so more genuine blue devils can experience the play.

What's with the prawn sandwiches I had to eat when I was there? Well, rest assured, it'll be super size prawn baguettes when I take charge.

I can't wait to come over to the Manchester isles, as I love the country, especially the beaches and the hot chicks. I hope you can all see my vision of this future, with new shirt sponsors (Dunkin Donuts) and new team name (The Manchester Gloom) I'm sure things are looking bright.

*Further good news for you guys is that I've just agreed a partnership deal with McDonalds, who will help in promoting the Manchester brand. This will involve re-naming the stadium 'McTrafford' as well as an exciting launch of Manchester Gloom plastic fan toys in every happy meal.

Cristiano Rooney will be the face of this campaign and during this, he will be marketed globally as Roonald McDonald.

Take Dudes

Malcolm

xxxx

Source:Mirror UK (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_objectid=15515758%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=dear%2dblue%2ddevils%2dfans%2d%2d-name_page.html) :s13: :s22:

[o0KelviN0o]

HOW UNITED BEGIN SEASON 2005/06

23 July - Hong Kong National Team
26 July - Beijing Hyundai
28 July - Kashima Antlers
30 July - Urawa Reds
7 Aug - Community Shield*
9/10 Aug - Champions League QL
13 Aug - Premiership
20 Aug - Premiership
23/24 Aug - Champions League QL
*United will play in the Community shield provided they beat Arsenal in the FA Cup final

[yulee]

Fellow Premiership managers have rallied around Sir Alex Ferguson in the wake of speculation over his future at Manchester United.

With American businessman Malcolm Glazer poised to take full control of United, many fear Ferguson's 18-year tenure at the club could soon be over.

But Jose Mourinho, Harry Redknapp and Steve Bruce have all backed the Scot.

"If you have achieved what he has, you should pick when to stop. No one should tell you," Mourinho told the Times.

"He is a winner and has a history of winning," added the Chelsea manager.

Glazer's son Joel has made it known that they hope Ferguson will carry on in charge of team affairs and Southampton boss Redknapp said that to axe him would be unwise.

"Anyone talking about the future of Alex Ferguson has got to be a fool," he said.

"He (Glazer) would only think about it if he knows nothing about football," added Redknapp, whose Southampton team face United in the final game of the season on Sunday.

"If they can find a better manager than Fergie anywhere then good luck to them because I wouldn't know where they'd start to look for that because that's an impossibility. He's second to none."

And Birmingham manager Steve Bruce, who was a former United captain under Ferguson, was also quick to back his old boss.

"If he (Glazer) wants the club to be successful, Sir Alex is the man for the job," said Bruce.

"He might have had a poor season but he can still win the FA Cup like he did last season."

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/football/4546699.stm

[Raul7]

Nigerian youth wants to play for Chelsea
Reuters
MANCHESTER, England -- Manchester United want the Premier League to intervene in the dispute over John Obi Mikel's proposed move to England from Norway's Lyn Oslo.

United say midfielder Mikel has signed for them and announced the four-million pound ($7.54 million) deal on April 29. But the 18-year-old Nigerian is quoted in Norway's Dagbladet newspaper as saying he now wants to join champions Chelsea.

United assistant coach Carlos Queiroz said anarchy would prevail if Mikel's move to Manchester did not go through.

"It is unacceptable that a boy of 18 can almost be kidnapped from his home environment and taken to London and within one day be talking on television with an unhappy face," Queiroz told a news conference on Friday.

Mikel, who has been named in Nigeria's training squad for this year's world youth championship, has been one of the brightest young players in his first season in Norway.

Queiroz and United chief executive David Gill said the club had followed regulations in their dealings with Mikel.

"We had a proper contract with the club (Lyn Oslo), dealt with the club first. Once we'd got agreement with them we sat down with the player and agreed a deal with him," Gill told SkySports television.

"(There are) two documents here which really show what we have the rights to the player in our opinion and it was all done legally, done in accordance with FIFA transfer rules and we are very comfortable with it," he said.

"We have asked the Premier League to investigate the situation regarding the transfer," a club spokeswoman added.

Mikel told Dagbladet he had been put under pressure to sign for United. "I don't want to play for them (Manchester United). I want to play for Chelsea," he said.

UNDER PRESSURE

He told Norway's independent TV2: "I don't think I want that contract anymore...because I didn't do it in my own way... I was under pressure to sign the contract."

Asked who had put pressure on him, he said: "I was under pressure from (Lyn manager) Morgan Andersen and two other representatives from Manchester United...and I was also under pressure from the clubs.

"In the end I couldn't resist any longer."

Lyn have denied putting Mikel under pressure and say the contract with Manchester was fully legal.

Asked what he thought about speculation that Mikel was set to join Chelsea, Gill said: "We are very disappointed. We have written to the other club, they have not responded to our letters."

Mikel skipped training with Lyn on Thursday and briefly disappeared before turning up in London. He said he had not held talks with Chelsea and had travelled freely to London from Oslo with his Nigerian agent.

His family and friends say Chelsea helped him and several Nigerian players to come to Norway to help develop their skills.

[Ronaldo7]

this transfer really is the weirdest i have ever seen :s22:

really don't know wtf is going on man :angel:

[Raul7]

this transfer really is the weirdest i have ever seen :s22:

really don't know wtf is going on man :angel:

ya, me too also.....

[vivre]

Isit Roman Abramovich get Russian mafia to threaten him and his family?

[Ruudboi]

Well David Gill has come out and said that all the paperwork is completed.. so if Jon Obi really wants to leave, mebbe United can sell him to Chelski for eg 20 million pounds?

[usjag_18]

Sorry to be blunt but don't generalise like your father has done.

Glazer looks like the archetypical Jewish American Scrooge... he will screw anyone to promote himself. Bill Gate$ with his 17billion dollar charity foundation is a saint compared to this untermensch.

Maybe we can all start a fund to hire some Mexican hitmen to take him and his family out... 1 buck contribution each and we can get some hitmen at the mkt rate $10,000 per gunman... then we see who hongkan first....
Mobo, do U noe whatever U mentioned in this paragraph, can get U into trouble? It's a bit racism when U using the word JEWISH! Dun try to be racist here, otherwise, might gt urself into trouble.


Anyway, no matter what, it's really hard to judge what will happen next. Let's just hope he wun get the total control of the club now. If he did good things 4 Man Utd, are all us going to kiss his a55 or his feets again and pray him like a god... Now, it's jsut becos of all the negative things we heard abt him. So until then, we never noe wat will happen. So let's just wait and see. Talking anymore also uselss... Let's just pray hard that he wun get total control of Man Utd.

[usjag_18]

Well David Gill has come out and said that all the paperwork is completed.. so if Jon Obi really wants to leave, mebbe United can sell him to Chelski for eg 20 million pounds?
It's NOT a matter of $$$ now. It's more abt pride & face thingy... If we let go of this kid, do U think we can still attract players from all over the places to play for us??? This is a little bit complicated thingy now. If we can't even keep a player with us, how do U expect other players to be convince and play for us?

[mobo]

Mobo, do U noe whatever U mentioned in this paragraph, can get U into trouble? It's a bit racism when U using the word JEWISH! Dun try to be racist here, otherwise, might gt urself into trouble.

My dear, he IS Jewish... and American... and all evidence points to him being the equivalent of the literary character.

It may be a problem if you regard being Jewish as bad.... so don't get so kan chiong :) ...

Anyway, when the working week resumes next week, he should have secured the 75% controlling interest, leading to the 90% absolute figure which will force all remaining shareholders to sell up... SU claims to have or be affiliated to around 17% shareholding. How many of those shareholders will blink, grab the Glazer borrowed cash and bolt will be determined shortly.

Bottom line is that as much as we may like to hope for the best, the facts make it highly unlikely that a 76 year old will suddenly change his character... even then, there is no way Man Utd under him will be able to compete in the transfer market at even the G14 level.. and all top footballers (and their agents) know that.

[mobo]

Isit Roman Abramovich get Russian mafia to threaten him and his family?

In the Bosman era, player power is a lot stronger than any club 'ownership', since EU laws generalise footballers as the equivalent of any office worker or employee. Here, we have a classic case of the clubs agreeing on a transfer but the footballer (and/or his agent) doing a van Hooijdonk by going on strike/refusing to move.

When Chelsea come knocking, anyone will see the $$$$$ and jump at the chance of a jackpot... this fella is smart (or his agent)... saw Glazer coming and quickly jumped ship to avoid the train wreck that will be Man Utd next season.

[croc1977]

Isit Roman Abramovich get Russian mafia to threaten him and his family?
i won't be surprise....

[chengsun]

20 Million is a lot if Fergie knows how to spend like Wenger does. :s22:

Anyway, my father told me that Americans do business don't anyhow one. So maybe it's a blessing in disguise. But still, the thought of the club being in debt is still very scary. :eek:
i can just say that, in this 5 years to come, there wont be any rio or rooney kind of signing. even to make smith kind of signing also have to think 1st.

some small facts about glazer, his father died when he was 15, pass him a watch business worth 300USD then, n he able to make it today worth about USD1billion.

his parents got 6 kids, he is the onli son, in order to get the wealth from his mother after she passed away, glazer had court case with ALL OF HIS SISTERS. all, roughly we know what kind of person is he in order to get money.

im not against any kind of privatisation of man u, if the boss is a known man u lover, and not getting man u into any kind of debt. but not this 1 who is a KNOWN NON MAN U, not even a soccer lover! n his son joe, has told gill that he himself will take control of the club n the running. but he know fxxx of soccer? running american football is the same as running soccer? n even tampa bay is not in good state now!

guys, quick go buy man u jersey now, before the price hike next season. or, next season can buy chiong one also.

heard that some hardcore supports even proposed that form another club to start from ocnference division again, to continue the culture of our beloved club.

[usjag_18]

i can just say that, in this 5 years to come, there wont be any rio or rooney kind of signing. even to make smith kind of signing also have to think 1st.

some small facts about glazer, his father died when he was 15, pass him a watch business worth 300USD then, n he able to make it today worth about USD1billion.

his parents got 6 kids, he is the onli son, in order to get the wealth from his mother after she passed away, glazer had court case with ALL OF HIS SISTERS. all, roughly we know what kind of person is he in order to get money.

im not against any kind of privatisation of man u, if the boss is a known man u lover, and not getting man u into any kind of debt. but not this 1 who is a KNOWN NON MAN U, not even a soccer lover! n his son joe, has told gill that he himself will take control of the club n the running. but he know fxxx of soccer? running american football is the same as running soccer? n even tampa bay is not in good state now!

guys, quick go buy man u jersey now, before the price hike next season. or, next season can buy chiong one also.

heard that some hardcore supports even proposed that form another club to start from ocnference division again, to continue the culture of our beloved club.
Only son meh? I tot the 99reasons not trusting him mentioned he got another brother?

[MatrixFanatic]

Mikel: Reds Request Premier League Probe
Manchester United PLC issued the following brief statement on Friday 13 May:

"Given the recent press speculation over John Obi Mikel, Manchester United has written to the FA Premier League to register the concerns it has over this matter and has asked the League to investigate formally as soon as possible."

Communications Office,
Manchester United PLC, Friday 13 May

[usjag_18]

My dear, he IS Jewish... and American... and all evidence points to him being the equivalent of the literary character.

It may be a problem if you regard being Jewish as bad.... so don't get so kan chiong :) ...




:s13: =:p I scared for U sia... Wait some Jewish come in and misunderstand tat u are being racist.

Anyway, from what I know from different countries' history (not fully understand) but I think most Jewish are quite good @ business. But the problem is soccer is not a business for him to destroy, especially, Man Utd.

[usjag_18]

guys, quick go buy man u jersey now, before the price hike next season. or, next season can buy chiong one also.



Wah, dun need bah. I dun think he can change anything much on the first yr.



heard that some hardcore supports even proposed that form another club to start from ocnference division again, to continue the culture of our beloved club.


As fro this, it's useless liao lah. form another club, what can we do? I just hope tat even Glazer delist MAn Utd, he wun changed the name! Otherwise, it will be horrible. Most clubs being purchased or owned by some people, den they will start to change the names of the clubs. So irritating man.

[MatrixFanatic]

Most clubs being purchased or owned by some people, den they will start to change the names of the clubs. So irritating man.

There are even suggestions that he may change the name 'Old Trafford'. :s27:

[Ronaldo_7]

My dear Soccerettes

I AM aware that there has been some concern raised following my takeover. Some have questioned my love of soccer and my lack of knowledge of the history of Manchester soccer club. This is unfair.

I know all about the players who made the side great — from the Buzzy Babes, through star quarterbacks like Roy Kane, wide receivers like David Beckham and Rian Gigs, the stoppers like Peter Smikel and the running-backs like the great duo of Steve and Bruce.

I know of the older players, too, like Derick Cantona and George Pest, so as you can see I am a real fan like you guys! There will obviously be changes to take us forward to next season’s Soccerbowl.

I have decided to give our most loyal fans a reward and home games will take place in the Epsom Arena, near to our main fanbase.

I have leased Old Trafford to the real Manchester side, who will use it for reserve games. The 80 seats for home games will be competitively priced at $5,000.

I have replaced the manager with a younger model. He may not be well known here but he has taken the Dallas Cowboys to many Superbowls. His name is Tom Landry.

Coach Landry has cut those strange brothers, the forgetful defender, that ginger bloke, the Welsh one and the Dutch one. We will be recruiting the best talent that the American soccer league has to offer in their places.

I hope this eases your concerns and, like me, you look forward to a very profitable future.

Malcolm

Source: The Sun UK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005220316,00.html) :s13: :s22:
this ass**** playing with the players' name isit? :s27:

[mobo]

Some better news to read.... G. Neville may be the latest Man Utd player to be England captain (even as standby) while Richardson has been recognised as a future England player.


http://www.football365.co.uk/news/story_152404.shtml

Neville set to be England skipper
Saturday May 14 2005

Sven-Goran Eriksson has revealed Gary Neville will captain England in the opening game of their United States mini-tour - unless he can persuade Real Madrid to release David Beckham in time.

Eriksson is still hoping Real will agree to let Beckham and Michael Owen join England for the first game against the United States in Chicago on May 28. That would only happen if the Spanish club had already lost out on the Spanish league title

"I'm going to ask that question when or if it's sure that Barcelona have won the Spanish league. I've already prepared that," said Eriksson. "Otherwise, Gary Neville will be the captain in the first game."

He added: "He's always acted like a captain anyhow! He or Sol Campbell could do it, they are the most senior and experienced players."

Eriksson revealed two younger players have been placed on standby in case of further injuries to his 22-man squad - defender Michael Dawson and midfielder Kieran Richardson.

Dawson, 21, has previously joined England for one training camp in November 2002 when he was still at Nottingham Forest before his move to Tottenham in the January transfer window.

Richardson, 20, meanwhile, has been at West Bromwich Albion on loan since January from Manchester United.

Eriksson said: "We have two players on standby - Michael Dawson, who had one training session with us a couple of years ago - and Kieran Richardson, who had a very good season at West Brom.

"They are both interesting players and I didn't want to put any senior players on standby.

"There's a full Premier League programme on Sunday and then the FA Cup final next weekend, so you have to be prepared for others to pull out."

[mobo]

There are even suggestions that he may change the name 'Old Trafford'. :s27:

I won't be surprised... this is a widely used way of raising huge money by selling off the name to a sponsor. Bolton has the Reebok, Arsenal's new stadium is the Emirates Stadium (which will replace Highbury), all of the newer US sports stadiums carry the name of their commercial sponsor.

In fact, I expect Glazer to exploit this way of raising the cash to start repaying his loans... somewhat better than his main target of re-negotiating the TV rights. We have seen just this season how all of us who subscribe to SCV how we have had to pay more $$$ for the sports subscription. (I have more than enough bills to pay liao :s27: ) If he manages to break Man Utd away from the EPL collective package, ESPNStarSports + SCV will have to have a separate channel for any Man Utd telecasts.

That's why Glazer's takeover has a direct impact on overseas TV fans as well... his main $$$ target is exploiting the potential of the millions of paying followers in the global TV market, less so than the local fans. There is a good chance that I and all other Man Utd SCV subsribers will have to pay even more down the road... which is why I am so pisssed off and pessimistic.

[RVN]

Real Madrid want to bring Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand to the Bernabeu for £21m and have sent represenatives to Manchester. (News of the World)

If true, I rather we get £30m or more. :s8:


New Manchester United owner Malcolm Glazer will ask Sir Alex Ferguson to name his own price to stay on at the helm of Old Trafford. (Sunday Express)

Sir Alex Ferguson will not walk away from Manchester United but will stay for another season at least. (The Mail on Sunday, News of the World, The People)

hope so.

Malcolm Glazer wants to rename Old Trafford the Nike Arena. (Daily Star)

noooooooooooooo :s27:

The American tycoon could bring England captain David Beckham back to Old Trafford. (The People)

Can't see it happening. :s22:

[RuMmYtUb]

Real Madrid want to bring Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand to the Bernabeu for £21m and have sent represenatives to Manchester. (News of the World)

If true, I rather we get £30m or more. :s8:


If really selling i hope it's 40m :s13:

[Ronaldo7]

The American tycoon could bring England captain David Beckham back to Old Trafford. (The People)

Can't see it happening. :s22:

this one is interesting . don't mind having him back at old trafford ( at least for now ) . we missed his set pieces and long range passing badly :s7:

[RVN]

Queiroz: takeover won't force Fergie out

CARLOS QUEIROZ last night insisted Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson WON'T quit in the wake of Malcolm Glazer's takeover of the club.

Ferguson is understood to be ready to meet Glazer to discuss the tycoon's plans for United and what the future holds for him.

But Old Trafford No.2 Queiroz is sure there will be no parting of the ways.

He said: 'It is not important who owns the club. The most important thing for us is to win against Southampton on Sunday and win the FA Cup Final against Arsenal.

'I know the manager is focused on the games and it's rubbish to say he is going to quit.

'There is a lot of coverage away from the football at the moment but that just shows how big the club is and I'm proud to be a part of it.

'Nobody feels uncertain about the future - the only thing we're thinking about is winning trophies.'

Queiroz has been disappointed with the performances and results this season and said: 'Sir Alex, myself and the players are not happy. We are conscious of our obligations to bring success here every year.

'But we know how to rebound from this season and will. We've been the best and will be again. We can do it.'

Queiroz is also confident about winning the FA Cup.

He said: 'Arsenal won 7-0 against Everton and played well but trust me, that will not help them win the cup.

'We will go out with a positive attitude and expect to win. Even if we had won the Premiership we would still want to win this game badly.

'We know we only have this trophy to play for and need to end the season on as positive a note as possible.'

United fans are considering staging a demonstration against Glazer's takeover at the final but Queiroz said: 'We will not worry about protests. We play football on the pitch, not off it

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=15517958%26method=full%26siteid=86024%26headline=football%2d%2dtakeover%2dwon%2dt%2dforce%2dfergie%2dout-name_page.html

I am sure deep down though they are worried how Glazer is going to affect the club. :o

[croc1977]

Something nice for moody man u fans like mi.... :o

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/sport/desktops2/desktop1_1024x768.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/sport/desktops2/desktop2_1024x768.jpg

[croc1977]

Can't get online version but this is from BBC Gossip Columm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/4548243.stm)
Malcolm Glazer wants to rename Old Trafford the Nike Arena. (Daily Star) :eek:

[RVN]

I think what concerns us, the United fans, is that Glazer hasn't outlined what his plans will be. Nobody knows exactly what he going to do except put us 256m into debt. He has mentioned 20m being available each season (which, by the way, is peanuts in todays tranfer marker) but other than that he hasn't made anything clear on how the club will be run, how he intends to make the club bigger, how he wants to invest money etc.
We can't stop him taking over, it's happened and it's a damn shame and I wish it could be undone, I don't want him at United but now that he has taken over the least he could do is outline his policies.
I think this adds to the sceptism and worries of the supporters. And it also shows how much he doesn't give a damn about the club and his supporters. He said that this is a investment takeover and that's the only thing he has on his mind. :s27:

[Yellowfin]

Can't get online version but this is from BBC Gossip Columm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/4548243.stm)
Malcolm Glazer wants to rename Old Trafford the Nike Arena. (Daily Star) :eek:

I wouldn't be surprise. There is big money to be earn by selling the stadium name to the highest bidders.

It is one way that guy can reduce his debts.

[MatrixFanatic]

Nike Arena sounds like some stadium for American football. :s13:

[Raul7]

Can't get online version but this is from BBC Gossip Columm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/4548243.stm)
Malcolm Glazer wants to rename Old Trafford the Nike Arena. (Daily Star) :eek:

omg........no more old trafford liao....... :s27:

[Ronaldo7]

omg........no more old trafford liao....... :s27:

it's in our heart :)

[kahmun7]

hmmm We got Reebok Stadium ( for Bolton), if we got reneamed to Nike Arena, wonder if which stadium will rename theirs to Adidas Dome or Fila Centre... :s8:

[Raul7]

Glazer to back Man Utd boss Ferguson to beat Chelsea for Essien

American billionaire Malcolm Glazer is expected to seek to win Manchester United fans over by making a major blow against rivals Chelsea in the summer market.

Glazer knows Chelsea are locked in talks with Olympique Lyon for midfield ace Mickael Essien and would love to bring the Ghanaian to Old Trafford to show supporters he is serious about bringing success to the club.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been tracking Essien for much of the season and knows he'd favour a move to Old Trafford over Stamford Bridge. But until Glazer's takeover, Fergie didn't have the funds to match Chelsea in the bidding for the African.

Lyon are asking £18 million for Essien and Glazer is ready to back Fergie's ambition to bring a youngster, many see as Roy Keane's potential successor, to United over the summer.

[United_Treble]

hmmm We got Reebok Stadium ( for Bolton), if we got reneamed to Nike Arena, wonder if which stadium will rename theirs to Adidas Dome or Fila Centre... :s8:
newcastle.........

[AhHuat]

Glazer to back Man Utd boss Ferguson to beat Chelsea for Essien

American billionaire Malcolm Glazer is expected to seek to win Manchester United fans over by making a major blow against rivals Chelsea in the summer market.

Glazer knows Chelsea are locked in talks with Olympique Lyon for midfield ace Mickael Essien and would love to bring the Ghanaian to Old Trafford to show supporters he is serious about bringing success to the club.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been tracking Essien for much of the season and knows he'd favour a move to Old Trafford over Stamford Bridge. But until Glazer's takeover, Fergie didn't have the funds to match Chelsea in the bidding for the African.

Lyon are asking £18 million for Essien and Glazer is ready to back Fergie's ambition to bring a youngster, many see as Roy Keane's potential successor, to United over the summer.
glazer promised 100m over 5years...
20m per year...

so after buying essien.....18m.....
left 2m....buy wat shi.t? :s13:

[Raul7]

glazer promised 100m over 5years...
20m per year...

so after buying essien.....18m.....
left 2m....buy wat shi.t? :s13:

hahaha...ya loh

[Ronaldo7]

glazer promised 100m over 5years...
20m per year...

so after buying essien.....18m.....
left 2m....buy wat shi.t? :s13:

promote promising youngsters from our reserves :s8:

[cutieboy86]

promote rossi up

[yulee]

From Rednews.co.uk : FC United Press Release
Saturday, May 14, 2005

FC UNITED - ANNOUNCEMENT

A public meeting will be called this week.

A plan of action for the proposed structure of FC United has been drawn up and is currently being put in progress.
This precedes a public meeting, which will be held in Manchester. A number of venues are under consideration for this and a further announcement will be made in due course.
It is envisaged that this will determine support, allow people to put forward their names for roles in the club, and provide an opportunity to discuss ideas which people may like to consider. Following this initial meeting, a further meeting will be held in early June at which fans can elect candidates standing for roles in the club.
At this stage, all those not renewing season tickets at Old Trafford and who support FC United are asked to consider donating half the savings to a trust which will be set up in due course to facilitate the funding of the club.
Below is the original article detailing the idea of FC United, published in February:

THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE

As the spectre of Malcolm Glazer spectre looms ever larger over Old Trafford it's only natural that the question has been increasingly asked: "what would you do if he actually did take over?" For many of those so resolutely committed to the rejection of Glazer's advances, that would mean the end of their match-going days (at least for as long as the American lorded over Old Trafford). Those fighting the hardest are undoubtedly doing so because United is their club, their life, but the conviction with which the fight has been taken to Glazer would be matched only by the conviction that they would have nothing to do with a "franchise" which Glazer owned. I write as someone who is committed to spending not a single penny towards a club bought out by Glazer and from speaking to numerous Reds over recent weeks and months it's clear that any sale of the club would mean the end of United "careers" for many, many others, who have witnessed the gradual erosion of the week-to-week match-going experience they once fell in love with. Some have said they simply couldn't give United up and to a degree that's understandable. The money spent, the beers sunk, the dates spurned, the jobs lost, the journeys made - how can anyone commit to walking away from United? (The thought of spending Saturday mornings in IKEA would surely fill most regular match-going Reds with dread - and that was before last week's riot in Edmonton.) But what if you could give up supporting Glazer's company without giving up United? After all, United isn't represented by the club, or the players or the manager or the directors or the shareholders. Glazer can gain the blessing of all of them but without the supporters what would he really have? He wouldn't have Manchester United Football Club. The support is this club's body, heart and soul and without the support the club is worthless in name and worthless on paper.

Back in the days of the Murdoch campaign there were times that the fight seemed lost. What in effect was an evacuation plan was drawn up, detailing the blueprint for the formation of a new Manchester United, one which spurned all the commercialism and tackiness of the modern game and which was controlled and run by the supporters. With United again under threat - this time from Glazer - those plans have been resurrected, and in the last few weeks preliminary investigations have been undertaken into the feasibility of such a proposal. With a working name of 'FC United' the logistics of the operation to set up a new Manchester United for fans disillusioned and disenfranchised by Malcolm Glazer has been looked into. Contact has been made with fans of AFC Wimbledon who have provided help and information about the lower league network, whilst tentative enquiries have been made about the possibility of ground sharing at The Willows with Salford City Reds. Another option that is being considered is returning to Newton Heath's roots and setting up home at Eastlands. Manchester City Council owns the ground and rules governing its lottery funding state that it has to be given over to community use for a number of 130 days per year. Whilst this currently primarily involves use of conference facilities there is nothing to say that it can't be extended to use of the pitch and stands.

It will never happen.

It was only last month that we were exposed to the warming tale of Exeter City, whilst the achievements of AFC Wimbledon and its supporters are the ultimate inspiration. Wimbledon have already made their way from the Combined Counties League to the Isthmian League where they sit proudly atop Division One - should, as expected, they gain promotion they'll start next season only two divisions below the Football League - whilst the soulless, heartless MK Dons flounder around in the relegation zone of League One. Charles Koppel's vanity, greed and arrogance may well have destroyed Wimbledon FC as was, but in AFC Wimbledon the club lives on. Proudly notched on AFC's honours list is the legend "FA Cup Winners 1988". And rightly so. With two European Cups and a Treble to their name, FC United will be the most celebrated club ever to take the field in the North West Counties League.

So with the initial framework in place, what now?

Well, for the moment precisely nothing. The plans will only be implemented in the event Glazer manages to force through his takeover and until that happens, everyone involved will do their damnedest to prevent it. For now, Manchester United is still our club, and it's the fervent hope of everyone that it remains so. However, announcing this now is to show both United fans and Glazer that we won't simply roll over and accept the fact should he ever defeat the opposition. There are other options and they will be followed through successfully. Reds now know that they will have football to watch and a club they can identify with. The sheer bloody joy of the mass of United fans taking over towns such as Fleetwood, St Helens, Ramsbottom, Colne, Congleton, Atherton etc as FC United embark on its debut season would not be one that could be matched by following any soulless, sterile commercial entity run by Glazer.

If Glazer does take over, what happens?

A public meeting will be called at which a suggested framework for the club will presented. The club's constitution will be drawn up and officers and committee will be elected by the membership on a fair and equitable basis. FC United shall be based upon:

- A outright refusal to recognise Malcolm Glazer's franchise.
- Ownership of FC United being held by a supporters' trust.
- All profits being reinvested in the club.
- FC United will play in red, white and black.
- The club will never carry a sponsor on the front of its shirt, whilst tie-ups of any kind will only be accepted from reputable companies.
- Support amongst the youth of Manchester and Salford will be a priority and actively encouraged. Discounts will be available to all under-18s and OAPs.
- FC United will encourage local businesses whenever possible.
- The club will actively encourage local talent through its proposed Junior Athletic Club.

Once the club has been founded moves will be made to attract personalities sympathetic to the cause. Following the patronage of Shareholders United by Ole Solskjaer and the support of Eric Cantona in the Not For Sale campaign, both would be approached in the belief that they would accept playing/managerial positions. It is to be hoped the likes of Brian Kidd and Arthur Albiston would be keen and credible options for the coaching set-up.

Would Glazer's franchise be treated as 'the enemy'?

Malcolm Glazer would be treated as the enemy. FC United's intention is to provide United fans with the community they've always enjoyed, but one untainted by the commercialism and authoritarianism we currently suffer, and which would become so much worse for those who remain loyal to 'the franchise'. Much like with members of la resistance staked out in London, we would await regime change whilst aiding all attempts to undermine the illegitimate occupation. We'd hope one day to return home with the invader vanquished, bankrupt and routed. It's understandable that not all will have the stomach for the battle. When Glazer is defeated, FC United will be happy to return to Old Trafford and merge with 'the franchise' on condition that the supporters' trust maintains full ownership of the club and that the unified Manchester United take over the higher league position of FC United.

For now the battle against Glazer continues. But should the unthinkable ever happen people will have choices to make. 'The Franchise' or FC United? The thought of being part of something new, something untainted, attracted far more Wimbledon fans to AFC than it did to Milton Keynes. For the hardcore of Old Trafford, the prospect of thousands travelling up to Blackpool to watch FC United take on Squires Gate, before returning home with a trail of mayhem, pubs with no beer left and deflowered local maidens in our wake, will be too much to resist. Viva la revolucion!

(Anyone who can offer any help or support to FC United please email FCUnited@hotmail.co.uk)

[blackevil_2000]

what would happen if Malcolm Glazer take over will he make the club into what he turn the american club into n won our epl?

[cutieboy86]

if tt happens, then will be gd

[AhHuat]

what would happen if Malcolm Glazer take over will he make the club into what he turn the american club into n won our epl?
yeah i wanna see wat he can do for manutd.... :s7:

[MatrixFanatic]

what would happen if Malcolm Glazer take over will he make the club into what he turn the american club into n won our epl?

I think you have brought up a good point.

What if everything swee swee? Maybe we are really too pessimistic. :s34: :s34:

[Ronaldo_7]

this one is interesting . don't mind having him back at old trafford ( at least for now ) . we missed his set pieces and long range passing badly :s7:
yupz.... i also dun mind him coming back.. but dun think its possible bah..

[Ronaldo_7]

glazer promised 100m over 5years...
20m per year...

so after buying essien.....18m.....
left 2m....buy wat shi.t? :s13:
2m buy sai lor..haha :s13:

[MatrixFanatic]

Fergie: I’ll stay but do not mess with my job
Sir Alex Ferguson last night vowed to work with American tycoon Malcolm Glazer in a desperate bid to save Manchester United. He insists he will not walk out on Old Trafford until he knows the club he rebuilt is safe. And that means he will stay on for another year at least. Ferguson was bitterly opposed to the £790million takeover and is still upset by the events of the past 72 hours. But Sport of the World understands he fears United — and crucially the supporters — could end up with a broken club unless he stays to steady the ship. After an emergency Old Trafford board meeting on Friday night, Fergie told a close pal: "There are still assurances I need but, at the moment, it looks as though I will carry on. We have an outstanding squad with three very good young players in Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney and Darren Fletcher, who are all developing."
James Fletcher, News of the World


Fergie going nowhere – Querioz
Sir Alex Ferguson has no intention of walking away from Manchester United as a result of Malcolm Glazer's takeover, according to his Old Trafford number two Carlos Queiroz. Speculation has been rife that the United boss could retire following the American businessman's Old Trafford coup. "Sir Alex is not considering his future. That's rubbish. I have spoken to him and he is fine," said Queiroz. "We only have one thing in our minds, which is a good performance against Southampton and to prepare the best we can for the FA Cup Final. That is what's expected from us and nothing can affect our concentration and attitude. Our future doesn't depend on things that are not part of our business. It will depend on football. Our future is about winning trophies and our minds are concentrated on only the next two games.”
Staff reporter, Mail on Sunday


Glazer battle to keep Rio
Malcolm Glazer is facing his first crisis as Manchester United's new owner after Real Madrid made a sensational £21million swoop for Rio Ferdinand. The News of the World can reveal Real's marketing director, Jose Angel Sanchez, flew to Manchester last week in a bid to exploit the turmoil surrounding Glazer's controversial takeover. The American tycoon has saddled United with a £265m debt mountain in order to finance his buy-out and may now be tempted to recoup some of that money by selling Ferdinand. Real are also acutely aware that Rio has still not signed a new contract to stay at United and the lure of linking up with his England team-mates David Beckham and Michael Owen could prove irresistible.
Antony Kastrinakis, News of the World

Glazer: Go get me Beckham
Malcolm Glazer is prepared to bankroll a dramatic bid to bring David Beckham back to Old Trafford. The American tycoon will give Sir Alex Ferguson the final say, but The People understands the Glazer camp is keen for the England skipper to join the new Old Trafford regime. And the idea might be tempting for Becks, who is trying to raise his own personal profile in the United States. Glazer, of course, will be desperate to promote United in his own Amercian market. And he knows Beckham is the ONLY footballer to warrant a mention in the US media. Fergie would not entertain the idea of re-signing Becks if he thought it was just a marketing gimmick. But privately, Fergie has told friends that there are no hard feelings between him and Beckham - despite the saga of the flying boot and the player's departure for Spain. Indeed, Beckham has recently paid tribute to Fergie's role in his career.
Andy Dunn, The People

Nike get jittery at fan boycott
Alarm bells are ringing at Nike as militant Manchester United fans prepare to step up their merchandising war designed to hit Malcolm Glazer in the pocket. Senior figures at the American sportswear giants have become concerned that fans are boycotting the United mega-stores in protest at Glazer's Old Trafford take-over. And I can reveal that Nike's lawyers have checked the fine-print on their £300million contract with United that offers them an option to terminate or re-negotiate six years in. Nike inserted the clause to offer an escape route but they never expected to have to invoke the option when they joined forces with United four years ago. The deal is worth £23m-a-season to United, spread over 13 years, and is vital to their overall business plan.
Steve Bates, The People

We won't line dance to Glazer's tune, says Freddie Shepherd
Newcastle United supremo Freddy Shepherd has warned Malcolm Glazer that the new Manchester United owner will face ridicule from his Premier League rivals if he thinks he can rip up the current television deal. An attempt by Glazer to derail the present contract is seen as a crucial part of the American billionaire's £790million takeover strategy. But Shepherd declared: "The Premiership chairmen aren't going to line-dance to Malcolm Glazer's tune over domestic television rights." The American billionaire would need 14 of the 20 Premiership clubs to back any proposal to scrap the collective TV deal and allow Manchester United to set up a lucrative individual agreement with BSkyB or another broadcasting company. Shepherd is convinced that it would be impossible for Glazer to get 13 clubs to support a plan that he claims would be "the equivalent of turkeys voting for Christmas." The Newcastle chairman said: "He has to remember that this isn't American Football and that what he has done with television deals in the past in the USA may not be legally achievable here."
Brian McNally, Sunday Mirror

Wat for at £15m shares sell-off
Old Trafford director Maurice Watkins is set to incur the wrath of Manchester United fans again by banking £15m from the sale of five million shares to Malcolm Glazer. Watkins, who had his car daubed in paint months ago by supporters angry he'd sold shares to Glazer, is thought to be the biggest shareholder amongst the Reds' hierarchy. And it's believed he is likely to cash in this week when the American tycoon takes another significant step towards completing his £790m takeover of the the club. With Glazer set to announce to the Stock Exchange tomorrow he's acquired 75 per cent of the club's shares he will move to de-list the club from the Stock Market and take United private. That would mean the shares held by individuals and institutions would be effectively worthless - and Watkins could again come under-fire.
Steve Bates, The People

Gunnar's a goner
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer could find himself in an awkward spot once Manchester United's new majority shareholder Malcolm Glazer moves in. The Norwegian, battling back to fitness after a career-threatening injury, has been such an outspoken critic of any individual taking control of the club's that he's been invited to become chairman of a breakaway club. But the heat is on Solskjaer, also a member of pressure group Shareholders United, as he is a highly-paid employee of Manchester United plc.
John Richardson, Daily Express


Fergie holds key to another classic
Arsene Wenger is hoping Saturday’s FA Cup final will be a repeat of the thrilling 1979 showdown between Arsenal and Manchester United. But the Gunners manager believes referee Rob Styles will have to stop United spoiling the showpiece for that to happen. Wenger said: “I think the first game against United this season was bad publicity for English football. No matter how they approach the game, I feel it’s down to the referee to make the rules respected. I think it’s fair to say we had a sense of injustice after the Old Trafford game. But we will be faithful to the way we play football and of course we want to win this final.”
Daniel King, Mail on Sunday

Alex to Piq top kids for Europe
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is ready to promote his latest crop of Fergie Fledglings. Players in the frame for next season include Italian-American striker Giuseppe Rossi, 18, central defender Gerard Pique, 18, and 20-year-old midfielder David Jones, captain of the reserves. "Rossi will score goals at any level," predicted Fergie. "While Pique is another who has done well. I'll be looking at my squad of 25 for Europe next season and who goes in it. We have some very promising lads who you'll be hearing about in the future."
Paul Hetherington, Daily Star Sunday

[Ruudboi]

Alex to Piq top kids for Europe
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is ready to promote his latest crop of Fergie Fledglings. Players in the frame for next season include Italian-American striker Giuseppe Rossi, 18, central defender Gerard Pique, 18, and 20-year-old midfielder David Jones, captain of the reserves. "Rossi will score goals at any level," predicted Fergie. "While Pique is another who has done well. I'll be looking at my squad of 25 for Europe next season and who goes in it. We have some very promising lads who you'll be hearing about in the future."
Paul Hetherington, Daily Star Sunday

I think a lot of supporters here are quite excited about it...Have seen quite a few clips of Rossi in action and he looks head and shoulders above his opponents in the reserve league - that guy has really neat footwork, with possibly quicker feet than C.Ronaldo. David Jones is also touted as quite a prospect by British fans who watch the reserve games - a defensive midfielder in the mould of Roy Keane. As for Pique, well he is regarded as one of the finest defenders of his age. Looks like United will look within for talent and not buy that many players this summer.

[Ruudboi]

An interesting article regarding the Glazers....

The Glazer 'phantom family' stays under wraps
By Tom Dart
The reclusive world of the new people in charge at Old Trafford
A SPOKESMAN for Malcolm Glazer’s British public relations firm said yesterday that no statement from the new owner of Manchester United was imminent. That is no surprise: one rarely is. In the pantheon of quotable public figures, Glazer, 76, makes Roman Abramovich seem like Max Clifford. Never in the field of sports business has one man done so much and said so little to so few.

“It has been ten years since the Glazers purchased the [Tampa Bay Buccaneers] and still we have no idea what to make of this phantom family,” John Romano, a columnist with the St Petersburg Times wrote yesterday. Dick Greco, a former mayor of Tampa, has formed a clear opinion. “He’s one of the most focused people you’ll ever meet,” he said. “It’s not ego with him, it’s business. He’s not vocal or visible.”

The Glazers live in the party zone that is Palm Beach, but Greco said that Malcolm “does nothing that’s frivolous in his life. His family are nice, quiet people.” Soon after he bought the Buccaneers in 1995, the stadium’s giant video screens did occasionally show Glazer waving a flag in his seat during matches, but that stopped when people made fun of the sight of a gauche, gesticulating, ginger-haired sexagenarian.

“I flew back with the team when we won the Super Bowl in San Diego [in 2003],” Greco said. “It’s the happiest I’ve ever seen Mr Glazer — he wasn’t jumping up and down screaming, he put both thumbs up in the air and had the biggest smile you’ve ever seen and that’s it. A few months ago I pulled him to one side and said, ‘Why don’t you pick a reporter and tell everybody your life story?’ He said, ‘You can do that, not me.’ End of story. He has no intention of making himself look good or being egotistical.”

A member of the 300-strong Tampa Bay Buccaneers UK supporters’ club who happens to be a Manchester United season ticket-holder claims to have met the billionaire on several occasions since 1997. He asked not to be named because his family have been threatened by United fans after he spoke out in favour of Glazer. “He’s a very big family man. You can see when you meet him that his family adore him,” the source said.

“He’s a very astute businessman. I don’t think he does care too much about sport, but his sons, Joel and Bryan, are interested in soccer. Joel particularly is very knowledgeable on Man U — the reserves, who’s coming through and so on. I’ve found them a very nice, close-knit, astute family.

“He is a businessman through and through. He once said to me, ‘What United fans have to remember is that gamblers die broke.’ The other phrase he used was, ‘If it doesn’t happen off the pitch it doesn’t happen on the pitch.’ ”

Greco had lengthy dealings with Glazer when he bought Tampa Bay a decade ago. “I thought for a very long time [American] football was maybe something he loved as a kid. But I attended a game with Malcolm Glazer and realised he knew absolutely nothing about football, zero,” he said.

Katherine Smith, The Tampa Tribune’s Buccaneers writer, said that, although the Glazers initially knew nothing about sport, they surrounded themselves with people who did and developed a passion for their team. “Glazer is at all the games, greets the players in the locker-room after every game, win or lose,” she said, adding that the first concern of Tampa fans is how the take over will affect their team.

“The truth of the matter is, just about everything [Glazer] has done has been successful,” Greco said. “He’s going to do everything in his power to make that investment grow. He’s not going to hurt the team because he’s got more invested in it than anyone else. I don’t think it’s something that people need to worry about.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,277-1611589,00.html

[RuMmYtUb]

Ah a win for our final match, welcoming sign until our match against arsenal..

New tactics from Fergie again, but this time it paid dividends, 4-3-3, attack with gd mobility, though defence is quite susceptible to opponent counter attacks..

Caroll almost let in some goals..:(

[RVN]

At least we end our campaign on a winning note, hope we beat arse in the fa cup final. :)

[Ruudboi]

Ha... Arse let Heskey score the winning goal :s13:

[croc1977]

now EPL over let discuss wqhat can we buy especially those regulated teams especially goalkeeper dept...especially if we don't have much $$ for use...

Soton: Niemi (Finland No1)(Age30+)
Norwich: Green (Eng no3)(Age 20++)
Palace: Kiraly (Hungry but sure int player anot) (Age unknown)

if fergie have a choice u buy who??

other position like Crouch ,A.Johnson,Aston i think not needed....we have enough strikers..

mF and Df i don't see any decent ones...

[Raul7]

now EPL over let discuss wqhat can we buy especially those regulated teams especially goalkeeper dept...especially if we don't have much $$ for use...

Soton: Niemi (Finland No1)(Age30+)
Norwich: Green (Eng no3)(Age 20++)
Palace: Kiraly (Hungry but sure int player anot) (Age unknown)

if fergie have a choice u buy who??

other position like Crouch ,A.Johnson,Aston i think not needed....we have enough strikers..

mF and Df i don't see any decent ones...

better dun buy robert green.....

[o0KelviN0o]

better dun buy robert green.....

:s13: :s13:

[o0KelviN0o]

now EPL over let discuss wqhat can we buy especially those regulated teams especially goalkeeper dept...especially if we don't have much $$ for use...

Soton: Niemi (Finland No1)(Age30+)
Norwich: Green (Eng no3)(Age 20++)
Palace: Kiraly (Hungry but sure int player anot) (Age unknown)

if fergie have a choice u buy who??

other position like Crouch ,A.Johnson,Aston i think not needed....we have enough strikers..

mF and Df i don't see any decent ones...

The GREAT EPL Sale is now officially on! :s13:

my vote goes to Johnson & Niemi...

[MatrixFanatic]

now EPL over let discuss wqhat can we buy especially those regulated teams especially goalkeeper dept...especially if we don't have much $$ for use...

Soton: Niemi (Finland No1)(Age30+)
Norwich: Green (Eng no3)(Age 20++)
Palace: Kiraly (Hungry but sure int player anot) (Age unknown)

if fergie have a choice u buy who??

other position like Crouch ,A.Johnson,Aston i think not needed....we have enough strikers..

mF and Df i don't see any decent ones...

Routledge the only good midfielder I feel. Niemi is the best choice.

And yes man Brownie and Fletcher did well.http://forums.hardwarezone.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[croc1977]

tot this green is not bad mah...

too bad niemi is not young if he is a few younger fergie will consider...

[Raul7]

Routledge the only good midfielder I feel. Niemi is the best choice.

And yes man Brownie and Fletcher did well.http://forums.hardwarezone.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

ya,wesly played well tdy..... :s13:

[Raul7]

tot this green is not bad mah...

too bad niemi is not young if he is a few younger fergie will consider...

if Niemi a few yrs younger, alex will sign him sia....

[Ronaldo_7]

yea we won... hope man utd can keep their form until the FA Cup Final against Arsenal.. RVN score.. maybe is a good sign?

[RuMmYtUb]

Get Stuart Downing from Boro :evil:

[MatrixFanatic]

yea we won... hope man utd can keep their form until the FA Cup Final against Arsenal.. RVN score.. maybe is a good sign?

Anyone noticed that Ruud played different style? Seems like there's more runs from him in this match. Maybe Fergie should stick to this formation for the Arsenal. Fortune did well in the middle of the park too.

[weicheng]

Of course buy that West Brom goalkeeper.. wad kuzcvcak.. :)

[croc1977]

Of course buy that West Brom goalkeeper.. wad kuzcvcak.. :)
robson won't sell expecially they have another season in epl...

[Ronaldo_7]

Anyone noticed that Ruud played different style? Seems like there's more runs from him in this match. Maybe Fergie should stick to this formation for the Arsenal. Fortune did well in the middle of the park too.
hmm... nv see the match so duno... :) but if this is effective maybe SAF can consider this also

[Raul7]

Real Madrid have moved to reject rumours that they are looking to sign Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand.

Reports on Sunday suggested that Real had sent officials over to England to table a bid for the defender.

Ferdinand's future at United has been the subject of intense speculation in recent weeks with the England international stalling over signing a new deal.

The former Leeds and West Ham ace insists he wants to stay at Old Trafford, but his failure to sign the deal on offer has raised doubts over his future.

Reports in England and Spain have suggested that Real could make a move for Ferdinand, but Los Merengues have issued a statement claiming they have no interest in the player.

"Real Madrid has sent a letter to Manchester United denying any type of interest in the services of the defender Rio Ferdinand, or any other footballer of the English team," read the statement.

"In the last few days, in certain media sources, specially British, there has been speculation about a supposed interest by the club in recruiting this player.

"For this reason, Real Madrid have been in contact with Manchester United to reassure them that they have absolutely no interest in Rio Ferdinand or any other member of the team trained by Alex Ferguson."

[kahmun7]

Get Stuart Downing from Boro :evil:
it's Stewart Downing :s8: anyway Boro won't sell either.. think McClaren siao will sell such a potential player to Man Utd meh... unless he wants to go himself. but he already stated he do not wish to go... but let's see what happens...

[United_Treble]

it's Stewart Downing :s8: anyway Boro won't sell either.. think McClaren siao will sell such a potential player to Man Utd meh... unless he wants to go himself. but he already stated he do not wish to go... but let's see what happens...
this type of thing hard to say, sometime even e managers cant stay put their players oso

[croc1977]

it's Stewart Downing :s8: anyway Boro won't sell either.. think McClaren siao will sell such a potential player to Man Utd meh... unless he wants to go himself. but he already stated he do not wish to go... but let's see what happens...
if boro not in europe we may got a chance but they are...so unlikely...

[RVN]

siao liao, the debts will be mounting for United to pay if thats the case. I wish you die now, glazer. :mad:





Glazer may find himself in a corner at United
By Dan Sabbagh



MALCOLM GLAZER, the American tycoon buying Manchester United, could see a black hole of debt open up in his finances because of conditions attached to about half the £540 million debt that he is taking on to fund his acquisition of the football club.
City experts estimate that the interest rate on the £275 million of so-called “preferred securities” will be at least 10 per cent a year. The punitive rate of interest may not create immediate financial strain because payments are probably being rolled up and added to the amount owed. However, if the interest rate is 10 per cent — a conservative estimate — the amount owing will double to at least £550 million after ten years. If interest rolls up on a compound basis for ten years, the £275 million debt will turn into £700 million.



Manchester United’s board has voiced concerns about the level of borrowing in Mr Glazer’s bid, which until now has prevented the board from recommending his 300p-a-share, £790 million offer.

Last week the American and his family reached agreement to buy the stake held by the Irish investors John Magnier and J. P. McManus, giving him a majority of shares in the club. Mr Glazer’s stake had reached 74.8 per cent on Friday — a whisker short of the 75 per cent he requires to exercise near-total control.

The preferred securities, a fairly standard form of borrowing on a highly leveraged takeover, have been sold on to three New York hedge funds, Citadel, Och-Ziff Capital Management and Perry Capital. These funds have, in effect, bankrolled the takeover.

The holders of the £275 million debt demand abnormally high interest because of the risk attached and because they get paid only at the end of the term of the loan. They have no right to any of the assets of Manchester United if Mr Glazer defaults on the loan.

The exact terms of the preferred securities have not been disclosed, but a source close to the bid said that the debt would accumulate annual interest “in the high teens” — up to £52 million a year — and would not be paid back for “at least a decade”.

The preferred securities are in addition to a £265 million loan that the Glazer family are taking out to buy the club. The loan will cost about £17 million to service.

Last year Manchester United generated £58 million of cash, but that is likely to fall by as much as £14 million this year on reduced television revenue. That may leave it only about £44 million to pay an estimated £17 million interest on the £265 million tranche of debt, while the preferred securities are accumulating interest of at least £27.5 million per year.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5-1614493,00.html

[United_Treble]

sick and tired of this glazer

[goaheadbingostan]

wonder if sg man united fans are interested in buying the shares? does it help?

[kahmun7]

wonder if sg man united fans are interested in buying the shares? does it help?
sg man unitrd fans ain't rich enough dude...

[kahmun7]

just realised.. Tim Howard is not even on the bench yesterday... :s8:

but sigh... am really worried bout next week.. especially when Heinze won't feature... :( definitely miss him...

[1920_me]

its alrite..henry/pires didnt play either

[kahmun7]

its alrite..henry/pires didnt play either
er.. I wouldn't bet on that... again I remind that the last time Wenger says Henry won't be fit enough to play, he scored a hattrick

[1920_me]

haha..i think pires was possibly rested...dont u think it is a pretty bad decision to throw-in the unfit henry vs united...our defence i think can handle henry on his best days..but surely a unfit henry will be a liability to them

[croc1977]

ROY KEANE was hauled away by stewards after he gave the thumbs down to raging Southampton fans.

The angry scenes came after the final whistle at St Mary’s saw Saints relegated following a 2-1 loss to Manchester United.

Keane — who did not play in the game — was greeted by jeers and chants of “Arsenal, Arsenal” from fans as he went on to the pitch for a post-match warm-down.

The United skipper responded by taunting the Championship-bound Saints supporters with ‘thumbs down’ gestures.

His actions caused fury in the stands and stewards stepped in to hurry Keane down the tunnel.

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ROY KEANE was hauled away by stewards after he gave the thumbs down to raging Southampton fans.

The angry scenes came after the final whistle at St Mary’s saw Saints relegated following a 2-1 loss to Manchester United.

Keane — who did not play in the game — was greeted by jeers and chants of “Arsenal, Arsenal” from fans as he went on to the pitch for a post-match warm-down.

The United skipper responded by taunting the Championship-bound Saints supporters with ‘thumbs down’ gestures.

His actions caused fury in the stands and stewards stepped in to hurry Keane down the tunnel.

thats gangsta.

[croc1977]

Malcolm Glazer has secured a 75% share in Manchester United, enabling him to take charge of the club, the Reuters news agency has reported.

Reuters quotes a source close to the matter saying that the billionaire US sports tycoon has now purchased the additional shares he needed.

Reaching the 75% figure will enable Mr Glazer to take Manchester United private and delist its shares.

Man Utd fans have promised to continue to oppose his takeover of the club.

"We're through 75%," the source said Reuters.

Although no formal announcement was made that Mr Glazer has gone over the 75% figure, a large block of 1.2 million shares changed hands within 90 minutes of the stock exchange opening in London.

If Mr Glazer was the buyer this would be enough to take him over the 75% mark. At that level of shareholding, as well as delisting, he would be able to transfer a large amount of debt onto the club's books.

'Pandemonium'

Premier League chief Richard Scudamore has played down suggestions that Mr Glazer may now try to break out of a collective TV deal to start raising more cash at Man Utd.

Mr Scudamore said it would be "almost impossible" for Mr Glazer to achieve.

Meanwhile United fans angry at the takeover have threatened to stage more protests at Saturday's FA Cup final at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff.

Shareholders United vice-chairman Oliver Houston told the Observer there was "an appetite for creating pure pandemonium".

Arrests

"Two people running on the pitch caused problems when Liverpool played Chelsea recently, so imagine what will happen if there are hundreds of people on the pitch in Cardiff," he said.

Demonstrations at the club's game at Southampton on Sunday were not on the scale expected, but some fans displayed banners.

There were three arrests and one black banner read "you were my life, goodbye Manchester United football club, RIP".

Anti-Glazer chants were also heard at the game, which was overshadowed by the home team's relegation from the Premiership.

More soon.
Story from BBC NEWS: :s27: :eek:

[RVN]

the worst thing has now happened, now he can transfer his debts to us. :mad: :s27:

[Ronaldo_7]

ROY KEANE was hauled away by stewards after he gave the thumbs down to raging Southampton fans.

The angry scenes came after the final whistle at St Mary’s saw Saints relegated following a 2-1 loss to Manchester United.

Keane — who did not play in the game — was greeted by jeers and chants of “Arsenal, Arsenal” from fans as he went on to the pitch for a post-match warm-down.

The United skipper responded by taunting the Championship-bound Saints supporters with ‘thumbs down’ gestures.

His actions caused fury in the stands and stewards stepped in to hurry Keane down the tunnel.
what sia he trying to do ~ haiz

[croc1977]

guys...i think we have to no choice but to accept the fact this american asshole bot the club...let's just see what happen next b4 we hate him or love him....

i believe he would not buy a club just to destory it.....well lets see lor...

[zenvey]

i really hope someone steps in to snap up all the remaining shares! where have all the rich man utd fans gone to :mad:

with such a huge loan, if glazer cannot secure the club at 75% and use man utd assets as a mortgage, i doubt he will be able/want to service his loan himself and will be forced to sell back the shares

[RVN]

i really hope someone steps in to snap up all the remaining shares! where have all the rich man utd fans gone to :mad:



they became even richer when selling their shares. :s22:

well from the moment those 2 irish duo sold us out, that fat cunt have already taken control.

[AhHuat]

in a business man point of view....i do not think glazer will want to destroy the club at his own hands....

if he is hired by roman abramovich to finish the job....i got nothing to say...

for the time being....lets cross our fingers and pray glazer do a clean and neat job

[Ronaldo_7]

guys...i think we have to no choice but to accept the fact this american asshole bot the club...let's just see what happen next b4 we hate him or love him....

i believe he would not buy a club just to destory it.....well lets see lor...
hmm... yup... lets wait and see.... hopefully will be good

[yulee]

Giggs and Howard agree two-year extensions with United
Mon May 16, 2005 11:10 AM BST

LONDON, May 16 (Reuters) - Winger Ryan Giggs and American goalkeeper Tim Howard have agreed two-year extensions to their contracts at Manchester United.

"Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has agreed terms with Ryan Giggs and Tim Howard of a further two years to their current contracts," the Premier League club said in a statement on Monday.

"This will keep Ryan and Tim at the club until June 2008 and June 2009 respectively."

Welshman Giggs, 31, has played for United only after joining the club as a 13-year-old. Howard, 26, joined United from the New York/New Jersey Metrostars in July 2003.

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Thank goodness they didn't try to drag out signing like Rio...

[Kyubi]

!! glazer taking over ? wtf ?