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Old 20-01-2006, 06:56 PM   #16
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What you say is true to some extent. .. But I do think a lot depends on the coy's culture, and the HR policy. My coy pays around 2k for fresh grads, regardless of NUS/NTU/Overseas and DL. We even have a few Msc in IT Sec with similar paywhen starting out..

OTH, I got a few classmates from my DL who are working in Govt sectors, MNCs and foreign owned companies as IT Managers etc, drawing pretty outstanding pay..

I tend to think as the experience the position required increases, less emphasis is made on the requirement of a basic degree.. In the IT industry, I know of people with little higher education e.g. Diploma level with high level of expertise in Solaris, Unix, atms etc drawing 5-6K per month. Of course these people are in their early forties..

In the IT Sec field, a lot speaks on the security mindset, the type of experience and maybe the technical certs (optional) seemed more important as the job is higher on the food chain..

But what rhul said is correct, for a number of companies in SG especially Govt sectors adn GLCs..

DL deg could be difficult in Gov sector as oversea study deg already lost out to ntu & nus liao in-terms of ITSec unless u frm prestigeous oversea InfoSec Uni but again, still loose against the local uni juz tht won't loose so much onli. thus i tink, if u go gov, asking $3k or above could be hard. in private, yr askin of $3.2k i tink is ok. for any of them to take u, i don't see a prob, based on yr ITSec exp juz tht u may need sometime to get yrself familiar with other aspect of the security domain thts all.

as fr basing on yr current $2.5k to ask, it can be hard. ask for wat u feel the min u r worth is better. to be conservative abit, the range i advised is a gd range, u can try askin for $3.5 - $4k even. i don't see a prob in this. after-all, they will neg to cut yr pay anyway.
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Old 20-01-2006, 07:04 PM   #17
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I tend to agree with Rhul on the monthly salary issue. Its impossible to guarantee how much bonuses one could get. I have been working for 4 years and never got any bonuses except for the AWS. Plus the coy is doing very well..

Bonuses is an incentive, good to have, no also boh bian.. Oth I will like more to consider the total package in terms of benefits e.g. Further studies sponsorship, Technical certification sponsorship, promotions, medical, dental, even specs claims...

I think before all of get engrossed with monthly salary, pls note that most salary packages are calculated based on annual gross. I mentioned it earlier and Wiz also mentioned about whether it's vendor, MNC, banks etc. Banks payroll, if I am not wrong, tends to pay lesser upfront in monthly but compensate with bigger bonuses. Vendors however are different and they would tend to pay more upfront to prevent poaching by rivals but will compensate with lesser bonus. If any of you come across companies paying huge salaries and bonuses, pls let me know.

To illustrate, a bank pays you $2.5k for 12 fixed + 3 variable means that total annual gross is $37.5k.
A vendor pays you $2.8k for 12 fixed and 1 variable means that total annual gross is $36.4k. So, which do you prefer?

In summary, pls consider annual, NOT monthly.
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Old 20-01-2006, 07:14 PM   #18
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Summarising so far , it seemed that some recommend around 3.5k , while rhul said further up is possible. Just FYI, When I quoted around 4K (Negotiable), I did hav recruiters reflecting the Expected salary is too high solely based on my current salary of around 2.5K. I tried the 4K expected salary for around one month and did not get any interview hits..

So I guess its time to adjust the expected. Using my formula of 0.25-0.35 up. I got the range of 3.2-3.5K
My personal perception is that I should expect more based on my exp. But listening to so much advice and the fact that a lot of companies do look at the base current salary. Boh bian have to tone it down.
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Old 22-01-2006, 01:19 AM   #19
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All the best and good luck !
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Old 23-01-2006, 10:16 AM   #20
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i think this is a very gd thread, everybody contribute to the topic in one way or another.
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Old 23-01-2006, 10:42 AM   #21
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So is my 3200-3500 reasonable ??
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Old 23-01-2006, 02:07 PM   #22
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YES. IS REASONABLE. I THINK.
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Old 24-01-2006, 08:26 PM   #23
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i suggest it depend on how u write your cv n present yourself, tat is e 1st tin to impress pple, for me i hv ard 3 set of cv which reflect my different skill set n experience, getting a job wif e right pay is selling yourself, u need to noe wat is unique in u n e value in yourself, wat can u do to contribute to e company if u join them.

u can often present yourself as a skill upgrader just that your company do not appreciate it and choose not to do anytin abt it.(quite common in lot of company)

If u able to prove yourself u r really tat good, jump from 2.5k to 5k no big deal.
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Old 24-01-2006, 09:46 PM   #24
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No doubt. what you say is ture. But the fact is that a lot of employers especially SG may it be MNC/Govt/SME still look at the bottomline .. *Expected salary. To even warrant an interview appointment. May SG Business operators want cheap and good Security specialists, which I think is absurb . But that's the truth..

i suggest it depend on how u write your cv n present yourself, tat is e 1st tin to impress pple, for me i hv ard 3 set of cv which reflect my different skill set n experience, getting a job wif e right pay is selling yourself, u need to noe wat is unique in u n e value in yourself, wat can u do to contribute to e company if u join them.

u can often present yourself as a skill upgrader just that your company do not appreciate it and choose not to do anytin abt it.(quite common in lot of company)

If u able to prove yourself u r really tat good, jump from 2.5k to 5k no big deal.
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Old 24-01-2006, 10:10 PM   #25
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No doubt. what you say is ture. But the fact is that a lot of employers especially SG may it be MNC/Govt/SME still look at the bottomline .. *Expected salary. To even warrant an interview appointment. May SG Business operators want cheap and good Security specialists, which I think is absurb . But that's the truth..
there is notin as cheap n good one lah, maybe u just get to e wrong company or e wrong recuiter lah, another tin is human connection n relationship in e industry, tat is oso a very important factor when come to getting a job cos pple out there will not noe tat u r good unless they really noe u
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Old 24-01-2006, 10:58 PM   #26
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Well, another factor why I wanna job hop, is becos I worked odd hours, wanted to get a job to help build working/business relations...
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Old 25-01-2006, 12:50 AM   #27
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Just my 3 cents.

The right move will be to get a job with high starting salary, such that when u switch company, the next salary jump will stil be significant.

Because u start off with $2.5k, recruiters will definitely question on the $1.5k increment, that u are asking for.

Nevertheless, do not give up. Never settle for anything less than $3.3k. 2 of my friends jumped and their increment is $800 to $1k.

Gd luck.
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Old 25-01-2006, 03:11 AM   #28
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No doubt. what you say is ture. But the fact is that a lot of employers especially SG may it be MNC/Govt/SME still look at the bottomline .. *Expected salary. To even warrant an interview appointment. May SG Business operators want cheap and good Security specialists, which I think is absurb . But that's the truth..
i tot a lotta pple say put negotiable in that field?
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Old 25-01-2006, 04:15 AM   #29
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Just my 3 cents.

The right move will be to get a job with high starting salary, such that when u switch company, the next salary jump will stil be significant.

Because u start off with $2.5k, recruiters will definitely question on the $1.5k increment, that u are asking for.

Nevertheless, do not give up. Never settle for anything less than $3.3k. 2 of my friends jumped and their increment is $800 to $1k.

Gd luck.
start high may not be good sometimes...esp if you aren't equipped with the right demand skillsets which your job trains you..you may get high pay, but u r stucked cuz u lack the skillset to go elsewhere to comannd a higher pay...

Threadstarter, i defintely think that your experience are worth more than what others said, be confident when u sell yourself, u might just stumble across an employer who is able to recognise talent!
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Old 25-01-2006, 12:12 PM   #30
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Well u can do that too. The minus point is one may get a lot of calls/ Interviews with a lot of bua long long pay. Putting an acceptable expected will weed out a lot of unwanted calls or interviews. It gets very demoralising if you entered an interview with high hopes only to come out pissed off, when the prospective employer half or 3/4 of what you are looking for......

i tot a lotta pple say put negotiable in that field?
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