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Old 22-07-2010, 10:52 PM   #1
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Learning UNIX in Singapore

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I had a talk with a friend recently. I work as system admin, all wintel machines. During the chat, I told him that I am kinda tired of doing user support day in day out, facing selfish, nasty end users. I am supposed to be managing servers (network equipments as well), but the one and only helpdesk/user support staff cannot cope with 300 over users in the company, overloaded, so he just pushed to me, because I am the next in line. The result is, 70% of my time and effort are spent on end users, rather than my own projects.

This friend suggested that I pick up UNIX, then find the opportunity to change track into UNIX computing. At least, I can be sure that I no need to deal with end users if I am administrating UNIX system.

I did some search. I can only find HPES offering UNIX course (5 days, $2500) in Singapore. What about other alternatives? Is there any other institute offering such courses? There are a lot of self learning material online, but, are those enough?
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Old 22-07-2010, 11:03 PM   #2
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3 major UNIX operating systems in Singapore, IBM AIX, Solaris and HPUX.
or you may consider Redhat Linux as well.
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Old 22-07-2010, 11:51 PM   #3
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It's me again.

I had a talk with a friend recently. I work as system admin, all wintel machines. During the chat, I told him that I am kinda tired of doing user support day in day out, facing selfish, nasty end users. I am supposed to be managing servers (network equipments as well), but the one and only helpdesk/user support staff cannot cope with 300 over users in the company, overloaded, so he just pushed to me, because I am the next in line. The result is, 70% of my time and effort are spent on end users, rather than my own projects.

This friend suggested that I pick up UNIX, then find the opportunity to change track into UNIX computing. At least, I can be sure that I no need to deal with end users if I am administrating UNIX system.

I did some search. I can only find HPES offering UNIX course (5 days, $2500) in Singapore. What about other alternatives? Is there any other institute offering such courses? There are a lot of self learning material online, but, are those enough?
do take note the learning curve is higher for *nix Platforms.
Did you complete your MCITP:SA already?
You sounded more like a jaded sys admin though
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Old 23-07-2010, 02:45 AM   #4
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My take on learning Unix is to start from Linux or BSD. They are Unix clones and mimic almost the same command spread as Unix.

It's a totally different animal but it can be self-taught (no need to attend any course).

Try http://www.google.com/linux or http://www.google.com/bsd

I think there will be end-users no matter what servers you manage, maybe just different groups of people. So will this help you attain your goal even?

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Old 23-07-2010, 11:21 AM   #5
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what makes you so sure that there's no end-user support in UNIX environment? :p
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Old 24-07-2010, 09:50 AM   #6
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Yes, I am kind of jaded with my current job scope, or jobs out of my scope.

Can really self learn?

I understand that there will be end users in every environment, but I guess working as UNIX admin/engineer, will not have to face problems like "my outlook hang", "my printer cannot print", ect, right? Or, I am wrong?
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Old 24-07-2010, 04:04 PM   #7
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Yes, I am kind of jaded with my current job scope, or jobs out of my scope.

Can really self learn?

I understand that there will be end users in every environment, but I guess working as UNIX admin/engineer, will not have to face problems like "my outlook hang", "my printer cannot print", ect, right? Or, I am wrong?
You can more than definitely pick up Unix by yourself. It isn't that difficult; you just need to understand some basic concepts behind how it works. A quick search on Google should offer you insights into the abundance of tutorials on UNIX out there.

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Old 27-07-2010, 12:52 AM   #8
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Yes, I am kind of jaded with my current job scope, or jobs out of my scope.

Can really self learn?

I understand that there will be end users in every environment, but I guess working as UNIX admin/engineer, will not have to face problems like "my outlook hang", "my printer cannot print", ect, right? Or, I am wrong?
Well, end users problems are still there...
if they cannot connect to CAD programs; you are still the one to find

In any system admin line of job, you will be required to do from lvl 1 to 3 one

cannot siamz one
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Old 23-08-2010, 05:42 PM   #9
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hi... i am in doubt 2.... can anyone recommend anything like pro cert and school to take up unix? cant find much on google.... pls help. Thanks.
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Old 23-08-2010, 07:36 PM   #10
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I'm certified in Solaris10. Maybe you can try out this. Took the course at ECS.
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Old 24-08-2010, 11:47 AM   #11
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just go and download solaris 10 from oracle.com, it's free.
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Old 25-08-2010, 02:50 PM   #12
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Setup your own *NIX-based network of computers and manage those

Hi,

Just an added suggestion, try setting up 3-4 computers (mix of laptop and PCs) at home and manage those systems from a main Unix-based (Solaris, Linux-flavors etc). The nodes computers don't have to be new ones, and a mix of Windows/*Nix computers brings different SysAdm issues to it.

I know some of the Sun (a division of Oracle) certified pros here are recommending Solaris (which has a lot of online forums that helps answers issues/queries), but feel that Solaris can be a bit more "heavy" at home-network compare to some of the Linux variant (e.g. Ubuntu) to start of with.

Important thing is to learn while having fun. :-)
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Old 25-08-2010, 02:52 PM   #13
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Go online to look for "self training unix" materials

A quick G search turn up this link:
www.kegel.com/linux/training.html

Search/hunt/look around online. You should find some tutorials that's useful for you to start off.

cheers + have fun!
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Old 25-08-2010, 10:31 PM   #14
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I just registered the RHCT course from SP, to get start.

Just curious, many of you here recommended Solaris, how about HPUX? It is not good? Actually I am thinking to take HPCES course after RHCT......
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Its not that different. Basic commands are still the same. You will find yourself at advantage if you know redhat already. I feel that you can self learn the other OSes after your redhat course. I self learnt debian ubuntu and redhat.
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