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Old 29-10-2011, 09:14 PM   #1
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Quality of next generation PAP candidates?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...162427/1/.html

Youths lock horns at Young PAP debate
By Dylan Loh | Posted: 29 October 2011 2031 hrs

SINGAPORE: Foreign competition in Singapore was at the top of young peoples' minds in a debate organised by the People's Action Party's youth wing, the Young PAP.

Two teams of three debaters argued whether government policies are crafted considering Singaporeans first. On one side - the proposition, believe that government policies are made with Singaporeans' interests at the heart. And this includes policies concerning housing and education.

Their opponents naturally disagreed, saying it is impossible to craft policies considering Singaporeans first because Singaporeans do not even know what they want.

Lee Junior, one of the debaters for the opposition, said during the debate: "Citizens want cheap rental flats as long as (it's) not built by them, or foreign workers who are not clogging up the public transport... The government, if it attempts to bend to the needs of Singaporeans, will be akin to a cat chasing a laser pointer."

In turn, the proposition argued that allowing foreign competition in Singapore sharpens Singaporeans.

Shirwin Eu, one of the debaters for the proposition, argued: "We want Singapore to grow. And can we grow internally, can we develop one iPhone, so to speak? Can you invent a Toyota car? Can you produce anything from your own resources, and not forgetting that Singapore - we do not have any natural resources. The only resource we have is our brain."

In the end, the opposition won, getting 17 out of the 25 votes cast.

Previous debates held by the ruling party's youth wing were members-only affairs. There was also no voting process to decide which side won. By throwing in voting and allowing non-members to participate in this debate however, the organisation hopes to reach out to more youths outside the party.
So you either reassure yourself you have done your best, or blame the people. Blaming the people wins
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So you either reassure yourself you have done your best, or blame the people. Blaming the people wins
Yeah. Seriously I dun understand what's the point of their debate. Whether their proposition or opposition wins, it's not really what the people want.
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Old 30-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #4
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quality of next gen pappies? not interested.

and yeah, again the 'If u dont choose A u gonna get Z and nothing in between', or 'If u dont pick us u are stupid/goon/idiot and u have urself to blame/repent/pay for it'.

anymore ideas?
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Old 30-10-2011, 01:18 PM   #5
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Their opponents naturally disagreed, saying it is impossible to craft policies considering Singaporeans first because Singaporeans do not even know what they want.
This statement here, shows the lack of common sense in these politicians.
If you want to know what Singaporeans want, just ask them already !
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If you want to know what Singaporeans want, just ask them already !
If things were only so easy. It's easy to ask. Not easy to listen and understand. Before GE2011, they ask and listen but thought all they heard was just noise!
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Old 30-10-2011, 08:58 PM   #7
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Those "Opponents" claimed 'it is impossible to craft policies considering Singaporeans first because Singaporeans do not even know what they want.'...

But wait! Aren't the politicians (policy setters) themselves Singaporeans too? Surely "Opponents" were not suggesting that (Singaporean) politicians also "do not even know what themselves want"?!!!
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Old 31-10-2011, 06:19 AM   #8
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they are trying to tell u that pappies are not chosen by the ppl and doesnt represent the ppl, they are in fact higher mortals. therefore they can turn ard blaming and pushing the responsibilities to the ppl.
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this is worth laughing indeed
left hand vs right hand...
its amusing
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Old 31-10-2011, 04:25 PM   #11
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Their opponents naturally disagreed, saying it is impossible to craft policies considering Singaporeans first because Singaporeans do not even know what they want.
Citizens dunno........

Lee Junior, one of the debaters for the opposition, said during the debate: "Citizens want cheap rental flats as long as (it's) not built by them, or foreign workers who are not clogging up the public transport... The government, if it attempts to bend to the needs of Singaporeans, will be akin to a cat chasing a laser pointer.
But they noe.....

So the conclusion is to continue making policies without the citizen's interests in mind bcos they dunno what they want and u noe, which is GDP at all costs. Best start taking names of those on the opposition team.........
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this is worth laughing indeed
left hand vs right hand...
its amusing
Ya lor--be it "proposition" or "opposition", they both have 1 thing in common: sing praise of the govt (and then push the blame to the people)!!!
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You just made me realise: "Lee Junior" LOL

Lee Junior, one of the debaters for the opposition, said during the debate: "Citizens want cheap rental flats as long as (it's) not built by them, or foreign workers who are not clogging up the public transport... The government, if it attempts to bend to the needs of Singaporeans, will be akin to a cat chasing a laser pointer."
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You just made me realise: "Lee Junior" LOL
what a name
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Ya lor--be it "proposition" or "opposition", they both have 1 thing in common: sing praise of the govt (and then push the blame to the people)!!!
yeah...... either singing praise or 指鹿为马

see which are the new blood that are "outlier" or non elite...then make sure they dun promote
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