Institute of Technology (SIT) - Singapore's 5th University!

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Will the SIT word be printed on the degree? If the degree has no mention of SIT, it will be a DL degree. Nothing wrong with being DL, only problem is the social stigma that comes with it.
There are many reasons why people seek higher qualification. And the motivation behind that more or less determines their perception towards certain schools and degrees.

Think this type of thinking is a common perception among relatively new/inexperience( industry wise ) students who have yet to see/have a specific use for the qualification they are going to study for. Thus, hoping for general social acceptance for the qualification they seek, so as to enable them to cast the net wider in the generalist market later.

But for those who already know what they want, what they want to do with the qualification, or already have employer/industry recognising the qualification they are seeking... its a different things. They don't really care much about the remaining wider market generalist acceptance (since they are not going to use it there), as long as they know that the employer/industry they are aiming for is going to recognise that which they studied.

End of the day, it all boils down to individual determination and capability/intelligence to secure the best work for themselves given what they have to start with... for one can get a recognised or top grade qualification, but still ends up as nobody, no money.:s22:

On the other hand, some already have a wealth of experience and knowledge (not to mention attitude and knack for it) that make them the successful person they are... getting that qualification is just to add flower to the decoration only. So long as people knows they are a degree grad, nobody care what degree they get and where they get from, because their achievement without it already way overshadow that piece of paper.

Probably that's the reason what so many different types of degree and recognition can exist and survive, despite the official stand.

So, think each individual have to take some calculated risk with their decision... and seriously do their homework (before they take the plunge) to find out whether the specific work they seek recognise their qualification. If they've done their homework and found that their ideal employer/industry recognises that qualification, then all else doesn't matter. But if they don't have a clue what they want to do, then its better they go get a 'safe' general degree, rather than a specialist one that is meant for specific purpose/industry.
 
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unfortunately, i would say majority of those who end up taking specialised degrees from private unis are the ones who do not plan out their future before making their decision. they just want a degree. there are many examples in this forum alone.
 

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My pov is that SIT serves as a proxy just like PSB, Kaplan, SMa, etc...

All these private insitutions provide cert from overseas Uni, have lecturers from the host Uni, course syballus more or less the same...

If you look in another way, isn't SIT set up the same way? The only difference is that it is setup by the govenment, with subsidy. Your certs are also from overseas Uni, with the course syballus more or less the same.

ehhh one shall not compare SIT with other private instituitions ... as SIT are collaborating with some of the best unis in their field of specialisation .. those that collaborates with those private instituition, are not better than those with SIT ...

Seriously go and check out the UOL where is their world ranking ? and what is their niche ??
 

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ehhh one shall not compare SIT with other private instituitions ... as SIT are collaborating with some of the best unis in their field of specialisation .. those that collaborates with those private instituition, are not better than those with SIT ...

Seriously go and check out the UOL where is their world ranking ? and what is their niche ??

ehhh ohhh hmmmmm ehhh :s22:
 

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hauhauahhau - you guys are so funny = = but yah i am amused to see your argument and post

Well, what is so wrong for government to set up such university/institution (whatever u name it) just to make sure that Polytechnic graduates (or other interested students) can resume their studies ?

Whether or not it is a DL degree, government endorsed, or whatever u want it. I think the purpose is not wrong.

IF one asks whether or not it is a DL degree- I guess it is. No matter how you argue is, it is a distance learning by definition - as you are taking up courses provided from your partner institutions overseas and not located centrally from your campus. The faculties, the central of learning, the central of adminstration is not here in Singapore.

But what's wrong with it ?

Government support comes in handy. Although Government create another instutiton that has a model close to today's SIM,MDIS,etc, it has a different. It will be funded and assisted by government. Government has a power to influence and maintain the quality of education and somehow it can create partnership for funding and scholarhip, more over it may be able to create industry links.

Will it be successful ?

Humph, we will see. It depends on how this course is run, who will teach them ? what make them better than engineering/technical students from NUS/NTU ? will there be enough fields for them ?

Note: DL degree sounds bad yah in your mind. but I cant help to say it is a DL degree no matter how you see it. In my opinion, a dl degree is just simply the university dont have its own 'Body of Knowledge' or 'pedagogy' it has adapted a 'distance' framework and adapt it to its institution. It does not matter whether it is funded by Govt, endorse, or whatsoever. NUS NTU SMU have its own right to develop its courseworks and their body of knowledges/curriculum are developed locally - although adapted from other institution but it does not rely on them.
 

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hauhauahhau - you guys are so funny = = but yah i am amused to see your argument and post

Well, what is so wrong for government to set up such university/institution (whatever u name it) just to make sure that Polytechnic graduates (or other interested students) can resume their studies ?

Whether or not it is a DL degree, government endorsed, or whatever u want it. I think the purpose is not wrong.

IF one asks whether or not it is a DL degree- I guess it is. No matter how you argue is, it is a distance learning by definition - as you are taking up courses provided from your partner institutions overseas and not located centrally from your campus. The faculties, the central of learning, the central of adminstration is not here in Singapore.

But what's wrong with it ?

Government support comes in handy. Although Government create another instutiton that has a model close to today's SIM,MDIS,etc, it has a different. It will be funded and assisted by government. Government has a power to influence and maintain the quality of education and somehow it can create partnership for funding and scholarhip, more over it may be able to create industry links.

Will it be successful ?

Humph, we will see. It depends on how this course is run, who will teach them ? what make them better than engineering/technical students from NUS/NTU ? will there be enough fields for them ?

Note: DL degree sounds bad yah in your mind. but I cant help to say it is a DL degree no matter how you see it. In my opinion, a dl degree is just simply the university dont have its own 'Body of Knowledge' or 'pedagogy' it has adapted a 'distance' framework and adapt it to its institution. It does not matter whether it is funded by Govt, endorse, or whatsoever. NUS NTU SMU have its own right to develop its courseworks and their body of knowledges/curriculum are developed locally - although adapted from other institution but it does not rely on them.

not all are DL degree .. at least for Digipen its not ... after all they have their own campus in singapore ...
 

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hauhauahhau - you guys are so funny = = but yah i am amused to see your argument and post

Well, what is so wrong for government to set up such university/institution (whatever u name it) just to make sure that Polytechnic graduates (or other interested students) can resume their studies ?

Whether or not it is a DL degree, government endorsed, or whatever u want it. I think the purpose is not wrong.

IF one asks whether or not it is a DL degree- I guess it is. No matter how you argue is, it is a distance learning by definition - as you are taking up courses provided from your partner institutions overseas and not located centrally from your campus. The faculties, the central of learning, the central of adminstration is not here in Singapore.

But what's wrong with it ?

Government support comes in handy. Although Government create another instutiton that has a model close to today's SIM,MDIS,etc, it has a different. It will be funded and assisted by government. Government has a power to influence and maintain the quality of education and somehow it can create partnership for funding and scholarhip, more over it may be able to create industry links.

Will it be successful ?

Humph, we will see. It depends on how this course is run, who will teach them ? what make them better than engineering/technical students from NUS/NTU ? will there be enough fields for them ?

Note: DL degree sounds bad yah in your mind. but I cant help to say it is a DL degree no matter how you see it. In my opinion, a dl degree is just simply the university dont have its own 'Body of Knowledge' or 'pedagogy' it has adapted a 'distance' framework and adapt it to its institution. It does not matter whether it is funded by Govt, endorse, or whatsoever. NUS NTU SMU have its own right to develop its courseworks and their body of knowledges/curriculum are developed locally - although adapted from other institution but it does not rely on them.
the only gripe i have is to call SIT the 5th university that's all
 

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ehhh one shall not compare SIT with other private instituitions ... as SIT are collaborating with some of the best unis in their field of specialisation .. those that collaborates with those private instituition, are not better than those with SIT ...

Seriously go and check out the UOL where is their world ranking ? and what is their niche ??

At the end of the day, be it who SIT collabrates with, it is still a proxy. It still doesn't issue its own degree. The general framwork and outline of SIT and private institutions is more or less the same. Just that it is set up by MOE. Since its being setup by the MOE, then obviously MOE can have the power to choose which Uni it wants to collabrate with as well as giving out scholarships.

I agree with GeForce3 that it should not be called the 5th Uni at the moment.Who knows few yrs down the road, it can really issue their own degrees?
 

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So, did anyone attended the admission talk? Perhaps, they can shed some lights.

Think the argument over whether its a uni or not is pretty trivial. Perhaps should find out will the qualification thus gained be useful and in demand. If there is already a pending demand for its grads, then alot of things doesn't matter.
 

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hauhauahhau - you guys are so funny = = but yah i am amused to see your argument and post

Well, what is so wrong for government to set up such university/institution (whatever u name it) just to make sure that Polytechnic graduates (or other interested students) can resume their studies ?

Whether or not it is a DL degree, government endorsed, or whatever u want it. I think the purpose is not wrong.

IF one asks whether or not it is a DL degree- I guess it is. No matter how you argue is, it is a distance learning by definition - as you are taking up courses provided from your partner institutions overseas and not located centrally from your campus. The faculties, the central of learning, the central of adminstration is not here in Singapore.

But what's wrong with it ?

Government support comes in handy. Although Government create another instutiton that has a model close to today's SIM,MDIS,etc, it has a different. It will be funded and assisted by government. Government has a power to influence and maintain the quality of education and somehow it can create partnership for funding and scholarhip, more over it may be able to create industry links.

Will it be successful ?

Humph, we will see. It depends on how this course is run, who will teach them ? what make them better than engineering/technical students from NUS/NTU ? will there be enough fields for them ?

Note: DL degree sounds bad yah in your mind. but I cant help to say it is a DL degree no matter how you see it. In my opinion, a dl degree is just simply the university dont have its own 'Body of Knowledge' or 'pedagogy' it has adapted a 'distance' framework and adapt it to its institution. It does not matter whether it is funded by Govt, endorse, or whatsoever. NUS NTU SMU have its own right to develop its courseworks and their body of knowledges/curriculum are developed locally - although adapted from other institution but it does not rely on them.

I think most people here are just saying SIT is not the 5th university in Singapore, and its a DL degree. From what i see, nobody is saying that SIT is a bad move, since like you said, they provide another avenue thats supported by the govt for poly grads to get a degree. Its just the social stigma that DL degrees are not on par with local degrees that is causing people here to argue.
 

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So, did anyone attended the admission talk? Perhaps, they can shed some lights.

Think the argument over whether its a uni or not is pretty trivial. Perhaps should find out will the qualification thus gained be useful and in demand. If there is already a pending demand for its grads, then alot of things doesn't matter.

I think there should be a demand as the degrees offered are in niche areas where there is currently a lack in demand if i am not wrong.

So even though SIT is not a university currently as it does not issue its own degree and its considered DL degree, it does not really matter since the degrees offered are in niche areas, very specialised industries.

If i am not wrong, some of the degrees are not offered in any of the 3 local uni so there should be demand.
 

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call it fifth - do we have to care? Cmon guyz we are a 'too' small society yah, until an addition of one instution has bothered us this much. MAy it be fifth or fourth, and may be third? or whatever, as for myself, I dont even care about it. uniSIM being the fourth is also fine, as I believed i once saw their poster as the fourth (until one day, people hate them so much to be the fourth for no reason). Well, in the end, neither will I go to the employer and tell myself as the graduate of 'first/second/third' university in singapore nor will I bother to state the ranking.

In the end it is all my resume that mattered, my learning, and my interview. And my employer will then keep the circle goes, as they will keep on believing the university that 'they think as worth to be sought after' is always within their choice.

That is what matter the most for me :> and hopefully for you guys !
 

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I think most people here are just saying SIT is not the 5th university in Singapore, and its a DL degree. From what i see, nobody is saying that SIT is a bad move, since like you said, they provide another avenue thats supported by the govt for poly grads to get a degree. Its just the social stigma that DL degrees are not on par with local degrees that is causing people here to argue.


lets be mature. DL degree is not that bad at all. last time I knew from my BCG counter part that they have UOL students too :>
 

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call it fifth - do we have to care? Cmon guyz we are a 'too' small society yah, until an addition of one instution has bothered us this much. MAy it be fifth or fourth, and may be third? or whatever, as for myself, I dont even care about it. uniSIM being the fourth is also fine, as I believed i once saw their poster as the fourth (until one day, people hate them so much to be the fourth for no reason). Well, in the end, neither will I go to the employer and tell myself as the graduate of 'first/second/third' university in singapore nor will I bother to state the ranking.

In the end it is all my resume that mattered, my learning, and my interview. And my employer will then keep the circle goes, as they will keep on believing the university that 'they think as worth to be sought after' is always within their choice.

That is what matter the most for me :> and hopefully for you guys !

Agreed, especially when some of the degrees are not even offered by the 3 local universities currently.

For example one of the degree being offered is for physiotherapist. None of the 3 local universities is offering it, the highest is only a diploma from NYP in physiotherapy so if the poly grads want to get a degree, they have to go overseas. With SIT, they are able to get a degree without going overseas and much cheaper with the govt subsidy.

So there should be no worries since your not competing with the local universities graduates in the 1st place. The only worry that people should be having is whether the degree suits you since its highly specialised for niche industries.
 
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your guys forgot one thing ... its gd that they are offering very specialist degree ... becuz in this society, a specialist can do things that a generalist can do ... but a generalist can nvr get to do what a specialist can do ... E.G. Specialist doctor and general practitioner ..
 

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So has anyone attended the talks today? I really interested in the major differences between the digipen courses, 2years VS 4 just have my doubts

Hoping to pop by tml, but not sure if cause have to book in =/
 
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