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Old 09-09-2007, 10:14 PM   #16
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Insurance for school fees?

Its best to buy an insurance to safeguard your fees paid to the school for your degree least something happen and u cannot get it back.
you mean there are insurance that covers school fees?
do you have any e.g. of them?
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:49 PM   #17
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the school has to be case accredited first. To apply for the insurance, you have to check / apply with the finance dept of the school.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:55 PM   #18
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upcoming IR

As we all know, there are 2 upcoming IR in singapore but the problem is that the courses that singapore governing bodies offers are only diplomas other than SIM, NUS, NTU and SMU. Was in fact wondering what other private institutions base in singapore is recognised with the courses that they offer? My results are not good enough for singapore institutes. I wont want to be taking up a course, spend money + effort and time and end up not recognised. Any kind souls to guide me along please? thanks.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:01 AM   #19
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Just wanna share my overseas univ recognition view.

10++ yrs ago my parents sent me to new zealand for univ studies. was kinda intimidated then cos studying in nz was like a 'never heard before' thing during that time and even the place seem 'ulu'.
called up the psc (?) i think it's public service commission if i din rem. wrongly, to enquire if my future nz degree will be recognised in sg. you know the body that dish out scholarships.
they told me as long as the univ is accreditated in its country of origin and it's a commonwealth country then it's recognised in sg.
but... this applies to general degree like bsc, ba, bcom etc only

as far as i've seen in this forums, the univs in questions all fall under the recognisable list.
now that i've been in the workforce for so long and have been/am working in those big IT mnc firms (even kids know these companies), there exists many DL graduates in these companies.
So to all DL grads, don't get too worried or demoralised over the issue of recogntion. Govt. not recognising doesn't mean private sector don't too.
Just remember to study hard, get the good grades and attitudes and you'll be alright.
I totally agree!
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Old 16-03-2009, 01:29 PM   #20
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I noticed that there are many threads in the forum asking if a certain university is good, or whether a particular degree is recognized. Whether an university is good or not is very subjective, thus I will not attempt to comment on the issue of good/bad, but rather I will offer my take on the issue of recognition. Unfortunately, there is no short answer to the question of recognition, I'll nonetheless try my best to answer as comprehensive as possible

As far as recognition is concern, degrees from NUS, NTU and SMU are guaranteed to be recognized by the Singapore Government and most, if not all, of other local employers, for the simple fact that these are all true-blue universities that are offering education on an on-campus, full-time basis, and all are endorsed by the Singapore Government through the funding given, thus assuring local employers that those who graduate from them are at least of an acceptable caliber.

Next is the issue on degrees awarded by foreign universities. Although the official stance of the Singapore Government is that all degrees awarded by bona fide universities that're properly accredited by their home countries would be recognized, in practice, the employers, including the Singapore Government, do have other more detailed criterias for what're acceptable and what're not, when filling a position.

This means that degrees from distance-learning programmes (including SIM, MDIS, MIS, PSB Academy, SHRI etc.) or from on-campus full-time programmes in overseas universities are assessed strictly on a case-by-case basis. Being recognized does not automatically translate into being acceptable for employment. It may sounds contradictory but when it comes to employment, there're many variables involved beyond official recognition, for an employer from the private sector need not necessarily follows the Singapore Government's human resource policies.

That said, we must understand that there are the issues of job relevancy and employer's preferences also. Take these few examples: applying for a strictly engineering job with a business degree, even if it's from NUS/NTU/SMU and a First Class Honours one to boot, will more likely than not be met with failure, as it is not relevant; or like the recruiter prefers the graduates from NTU over NUS while filtering through job applications, because he was a graduate from the former and an die-hard alumnus, then there is nothing a person can do about except blames one's own luck; or for some positions, only those applicants with Good Honours degrees would be put aside for consideration for interviews, anything else that do not meet the minimum requirement would be thrown out.

I hope this helps clear the smoke for those who're confused. Fellow forumers are most welcome to add in points that I've missed, or to point out the discrepancies that I may have made.
the universitites in other commonwealth countries are also true blue universities too and regulated by their own governments.
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the universitites in other commonwealth countries are also true blue universities too and regulated by their own governments.
I believe I have to clarify before your post leads other forumers to have the wrong impression that I infer to the other universities in Commonwealth countries as being non-true blue or unregulated.

My next few paragraphs, after the one you highlighted in red, did discuss about the degrees awarded by foreign universities, and the reality of how their degrees are viewed by local employers in general, despite being accredited and recognized.
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I believe I have to clarify before your post leads other forumers to have the wrong impression that I infer to the other universities in Commonwealth countries as being non-true blue or unregulated.

My next few paragraphs, after the one you highlighted in red, did discuss about the degrees awarded by foreign universities, and the reality of how their degrees are viewed by local employers in general, despite being accredited and recognized.

To me, as long it is a commonwealth and bonafide university, it should be recognised in singapore.

It will pretty dumb to discredit overseas commonwealth universities that are 100 year old and have produced many successful people like Adelaide and Melbourn University
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and btw our NTU , NUS and SMU will be nowhere now without those 100 year old commonwealth universities. We have borrowed from them their system and using it.
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To me, as long it is a commonwealth and bonafide university, it should be recognised in singapore.

It will pretty dumb to discredit overseas commonwealth universities that are 100 year old and have produced many successful people like Adelaide and Melbourn University

Hi Shiok!

Well, I certainly hope that what you mentioned is true too, but ultimately reality prevails.

There is no point in arguing until the cow comes home when the boss of the company simply do not think highly of the degree one has. I have my fair share of disappointments too, but one has to learn to accept this.

Visualize this scenario - with a few thousands job applications to process, the HR person doing the screening have only less than a minute to scan through every CV. Those that the HR person are unfamiliar with will more likely than not go into the trash can.

Just take the Association of Commonwealth Universities for example, with more than 500 member universities from 5 different continents, you cannot expect all employers or their HR people in Singapore to be aware of all of the ACU universities.
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Hi Shiok!

Well, I certainly hope that what you mentioned is true too, but ultimately reality prevails.

There is no point in arguing until the cow comes home when the boss of the company simply do not think highly of the degree one has. I have my fair share of disappointments too, but one has to learn to accept this.

Visualize this scenario - with a few thousands job applications to process, the HR person doing the screening have only less than a minute to scan through every CV. Those that the HR person are unfamiliar with will more likely than not go into the trash can.

Just take the Association of Commonwealth Universities for example, with more than 500 member universities from 5 different continents, you cannot expect all employers or their HR people in Singapore to be aware of all of the ACU universities.

such a company only exists in singapore.If it hink such company exists, it must not be a good one . HR sucks..
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In australia and other countries, they give recognistion for prior learning and education even if the degree u studied is from Africa, Sri Lanka ect..So let me ask u , are there bonafide and established unis in those countries?
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Hi Shiok!

Well, I certainly hope that what you mentioned is true too, but ultimately reality prevails.

There is no point in arguing until the cow comes home when the boss of the company simply do not think highly of the degree one has. I have my fair share of disappointments too, but one has to learn to accept this.

Visualize this scenario - with a few thousands job applications to process, the HR person doing the screening have only less than a minute to scan through every CV. Those that the HR person are unfamiliar with will more likely than not go into the trash can.

Just take the Association of Commonwealth Universities for example, with more than 500 member universities from 5 different continents, you cannot expect all employers or their HR people in Singapore to be aware of all of the ACU universities.
such a company only exists in singapore.If u hink such company exists, it must not be a good one . HR sucks..
What they do is just look through and see what catches their eye?

Just le tme tell u watever u studied in US, UK and Australia even though it may not be recognised is leagues better than our own sucky education system which doesnt train people to think right out of the box.

If i am an employer, i would not pick from the local pool of poly graduates. IMO, they are useless who just went in line with the motion
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I believe I have to clarify before your post leads other forumers to have the wrong impression that I infer to the other universities in Commonwealth countries as being non-true blue or unregulated.

My next few paragraphs, after the one you highlighted in red, did discuss about the degrees awarded by foreign universities, and the reality of how their degrees are viewed by local employers in general, despite being accredited and recognized.
U mean local employers or MNCs?

As far as i know, (correct me) , MNCs have more knowledge in ACU universities, but local companies as in singaporean employers, i just feel sorry for them as they definitey in the losing end. Lack of knowledge is not an excuse
because our economy does not revolve around them, it revolves around MNCs.
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I wonder whats Shiok! background... hmm... must not be a local poly grad.. some elite?
elite wanna go Monash?
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...6#post36337386

I see him/her repeating this statement "such a company only exists in singapore.If it hink such company exists, it must not be a good one . HR sucks.. " over stressing a little?

MNC have more knowledge of ACU Uni? HR in MNC and other Biz not local?

this claim.. "Just le tme tell u watever u studied in US, UK and Australia even though it may not be recognised is leagues better than our own sucky education system which doesnt train people to think right out of the box."
Have U studied in these Uni b4 to make the claim? Anything to support this groundless generalization? We don't have to consider lower tier Uni.. Uni like University of Michigan--Dearborn (tier 1 Uni according to USNEWs) whats your take? how much better than local?
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Since the topic is about "VIEWS ON UNIVERSITIES & DEGREES RECOGNITION IN SINGAPORE", I think I will share my real-life experience as well.

My distance learning I.T degree is from Uni of Newcastle, which I studied part time at PSB. It took me around 1 years 10 months to cover 10 modules and complete the degree.

My views on how recongized my degree is in the I.T industry. Ok, my experiences is still ok, smaller companies do not care where you do your degree, or how famous you degree is, at least applicable to the degree jobs I applied. Reason because elites (local grad) will seldom applied these companies so the smaller companies cannot be fussy as well. I do face problems with bigger MNC, where the interviewers are more cocky, proud, I believe because they have alot more applicants to choose from, thus the attitude.

However, after I clocked my experiences in the smaller companies, I do have job offers even from 1 of the stat board, even in bad times like this where jobs are supposely to be harder to find, because I have applied to like > 30 companies already and responses were very much slower than the past. In fact, I thought I stand no chance because I always thought government prefer local graduates and the job advertisment did state "Good degree in Information Technology with at least 2 years of experience". Pay wise I believe is still a decent degree salary, however, still lower than what I was expecting, but I do have no choice because due to the bad times now, it is really hard to get even get another job interview.

I hope this will give some encouragement to brothers out there, that even our government are willing to hire distance learning degree holders.

In fact, I am quite keen to try take up a part time distance learning MBA in future, to see if government do recognized it.
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