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Old 21-05-2009, 01:13 AM   #31
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I got a BSc in Biz & mgt from MDIS under university of bradford. And I applied for a diploma position with ministry of foreign affairs. when i went for the interview, a girl who was earlier than me me in the interview told me that she asked the interviewer (HR director) of MFA if they recognised external deg. the interviewer said no. govt bodies generally don't recognised external deg thru distance learning. That's why I was quite upset that I've wasted my parents' money. if the govt body does not recognise external deg via distance learning how can they expect pte organisation to recognise...
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Old 29-05-2009, 06:40 PM   #32
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if the govt body does not recognise external deg via distance learning how can they expect pte organisation to recognise...
the govt does NOT expect pte organisations to recognise DL degrees. where did you get that idea from??
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Old 30-05-2009, 01:21 AM   #33
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I got a BSc in Biz & mgt from MDIS under university of bradford. And I applied for a diploma position with ministry of foreign affairs. when i went for the interview, a girl who was earlier than me me in the interview told me that she asked the interviewer (HR director) of MFA if they recognised external deg. the interviewer said no. govt bodies generally don't recognised external deg thru distance learning. That's why I was quite upset that I've wasted my parents' money. if the govt body does not recognise external deg via distance learning how can they expect pte organisation to recognise...
if govt oso recognize DL degree, pls tell mi cos i see no pt in studying in a local uni
may as well buang O levels den do private dip followed by private degree generally private route less stress, cost of edn would be comparable wif local U .

3 yr UOL degree abt 24 K
4yr nus/ntu degree oso abt 24K.

so pls dont complain k
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:24 PM   #34
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Official Position of Singapore Government On Recognition Of Degrees

How do I know that my degree is acceptable for employment in the Singapore Public Service?

For graduate positions, degrees from universities accredited by the home government of the country where the university is located will be considered for appointment into the Public Service. This applies to degrees obtained full-time or part time, through distance-learning or twinning programmes, etc. Professional qualifications such as law and accountancy from foreign institutions also need to be recognised by the relevant professional body in Singapore to be considered for appointment.

If you wish to check on the accreditation status of your degree, you can refer to relevant guidebooks such as the Commonwealth Universities Yearbook, or call the relevant education centres or professional bodies. A list of guidebooks, education centres and professional bodies can be found at "Resource - Entry Qualifications" within our website.

The Public Service does not solely look at academic qualification when choosing candidates. We also take into account other important factors such as relevant work experience, past performance (e.g. track records), as well as personal attributes like leadership abilities. The relative emphasis on each factor and the criteria set depends on the nature and level of the job, and only the candidate who best fits the overall requirements of the job will be recruited.

Source: "Help/FAQ" section of Prime Minister's Office Job Portal (https://app.vog.gov.sg/StaticContent/FAQ.aspx); correct as at 9 June 2009
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:33 PM   #35
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I got a BSc in Biz & mgt from MDIS under university of bradford. And I applied for a diploma position with ministry of foreign affairs. when i went for the interview, a girl who was earlier than me me in the interview told me that she asked the interviewer (HR director) of MFA if they recognised external deg. the interviewer said no. govt bodies generally don't recognised external deg thru distance learning. That's why I was quite upset that I've wasted my parents' money. if the govt body does not recognise external deg via distance learning how can they expect pte organisation to recognise...
What a shame that you choose to believe someone who was vying for the same position as yourself. Think about it, if your degree is not recognized, why should MFA's HR even waste time calling you up for an interview? For an opportunity to mock at you? Sigh...............
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shame?

What a shame that you choose to believe someone who was vying for the same position as yourself. Think about it, if your degree is not recognized, why should MFA's HR even waste time calling you up for an interview? For an opportunity to mock at you? Sigh...............

i graduated from SIM- UOL (banking and finance) with 2nd upp. MFA did offer me a position in the finance department. well, judging from the pay they offered, they are only recognising my A level qualification. what do you say? definitely, they didn't call me to mock at me. rather, i think they're seizing the opportunity to get cheaper labour.
SIGH......
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Old 29-06-2009, 10:00 AM   #37
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i graduated from SIM- UOL (banking and finance) with 2nd upp. MFA did offer me a position in the finance department. well, judging from the pay they offered, they are only recognising my A level qualification. what do you say? definitely, they didn't call me to mock at me. rather, i think they're seizing the opportunity to get cheaper labour.
SIGH......
Without further information, like what you're getting and what position you were offered, it is difficult to get a better picture but generally one has to look at the employment contract to see what scheme one is in and there're 3 possible schemes that a person may be appointed to (with differences in terms of salary range and benefits):

1) Management Executive Scheme (for Bachelor's degree holders, approx. $1.7K to $4K)

2) Management Support Scheme (for polytechnic diploma holders, approx. $1.5K to $2.4K)

3) Corporate Support Scheme( for GCE 'N/O/A' level holders, approx. $1K to $1.5K).

As you can see the lower end of the Management Executive Scheme's pay range actually overlaps with the Management Support Scheme. You may wish to get more information before jumping to conclusion in order to provide a better picture for the benefits of the forumers.
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Old 29-06-2009, 11:41 AM   #38
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lumix.chua please share with us if your pay is around which range.. will shed a lot of light for DL grads like us
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Old 30-06-2009, 10:16 PM   #39
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I took up a 3months temp as Finance Assistant and was paid on a daily basis with a miserable $54 per day. Was told by the head of department that ministry only recognised up to my A level qualification.
I have been a relief teacher. MOE doesn't recognised my degree as well. My pay was based on my A lvl quali as well.
As least i can be quite sure my degree isn't recognised by ministry.
Maybe its on a case by case basis. I wouldn't know....
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i think they're seizing the opportunity to get cheaper labour.
SIGH......
if you think you are being used as cheap labour, then why don't you just reject the offer and find a job in the private sector?
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:09 AM   #41
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if you think you are being used as cheap labour, then why don't you just reject the offer and find a job in the private sector?
cos back then i was looking for a job and need the $$$... market not good. bo bian.
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I took up a 3months temp as Finance Assistant and was paid on a daily basis with a miserable $54 per day. Was told by the head of department that ministry only recognised up to my A level qualification.
I have been a relief teacher. MOE doesn't recognised my degree as well. My pay was based on my A lvl quali as well.
As least i can be quite sure my degree isn't recognised by ministry.
Maybe its on a case by case basis. I wouldn't know....
It should be on a case-by-case basis.

Although the SG government bodies have a general guideline (i.e. all degrees are recognized as long as they're accredited by their home countries) regarding the recognition of overseas degrees, whether they're through distance-learning or done on campus, they may have another set of more stringent internal guidelines which may exclude certain overseas degrees.

It is not uncommon for one agency to reject one's degree while another does not. Take it easy, MOE is not the only employer around.
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Old 02-07-2009, 06:49 PM   #43
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cos back then i was looking for a job and need the $$$... market not good. bo bian.
well, if you need the $$$ then you should be grateful that the govt is still hiring so much in this climate. still complain so much?
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:48 AM   #44
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It should be on a case-by-case basis.

Although the SG government bodies have a general guideline (i.e. all degrees are recognized as long as they're accredited by their home countries) regarding the recognition of overseas degrees, whether they're through distance-learning or done on campus, they may have another set of more stringent internal guidelines which may exclude certain overseas degrees.

It is not uncommon for one agency to reject one's degree while another does not. Take it easy, MOE is not the only employer around.

thanks dude.
maybe you're right.. but in this case, 2 agency didn't recognise my degree.
true enough, MOE isn't the one employer around. but i feel really disappointed when MOE didn't recognise my qualifaction as i've longed to be a teacher. (i did email moe enquiring if my degree is recognised even before i took up the DL deg. their reply was "Rather than recognise any list of degrees, MOE looks at each application in totality." which i think to a large extent isn't true.
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well, if you need the $$$ then you should be grateful that the govt is still hiring so much in this climate. still complain so much?
pls allow me to correct myself, i was doing relief teaching before i joined MFA.. and RT pays higher than MFA. i should have said i needed the experience.
i was offered other temp jobs with much higher salary. then again, i've choosen to join mfa (due to several other reasons).
thus i wasn't complaining. i'm just bothered/sadden by the fact that my DL deg wasn't recognised.
(esp now that i'm considering if i should take up another local degree...with the intention of joining teaching)
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