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11062010, 04:37 AM

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Hymnody wrote:
Ahh..the brave souls of uolexternal, taking BME.
/salute.
Just a little to add on, this degree allows good opportunity for further studies if done well. Most specialised post grad studies require economics and quantitative background and this degree definitely demonstrates that a lot.
Indeed.. honestly I think this BME is even harder than some of the MSc. course at LSE...



11062010, 11:50 AM

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Mathemagician going for Phd after Masters at LSE?



11062010, 02:57 PM

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Rushifaa wrote:
Mathemagician going for Phd after Masters at LSE?
I will see how well I perform for my MSc. dissertation first



12062010, 10:40 PM

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13062010, 01:47 AM

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yep that one... the only textbook that you need for EOE.. just a gentle reminder, the exercises in the textbook are not UOL exam type questions.. but you can use that to gain more understanding of the topics. The subject guide contains the solution to the exercises.



22062010, 08:58 PM

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EOE is easier than other maths courses because it is not abstract.. try to read third year maths modules subject guide.. you will pull your hair and scream [/QUOTE]
do you mind explaining what abstract is?



27072010, 11:24 AM

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guidance needed!
I am interested in taking up this course, is there any requirement needed to get in? Besides this, i have 3 others consideration in mind: Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Economics and Finance; Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Banking and Finance and Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Accounting and Finance.
I would like to clarify as of what Mathemagician have posted regarding what BME will do in first year which is Maths Proofing, what's maths proofing about? Anyone can show me some examples of the kind of questions and solutions given. I would appreciate it if someone can help me by showing me different type of questions according to module that would be covered in the process of the course.
The purpose of me wanted to get into this course is because I have a strong passion in Mathematics since young and that has become my strength as well. Furthermore, I am intending to take Actuarial exams to become an actuary next time. Hence, the career i have in mind is to deal with lots of mathematical problems in finance/investment sector.
In addition, people in this course, do you all mind sharing with me your background? (Which school and what course/subject you took before moving on to this degree course)
Thank you very much guys!! Please help me out!



27072010, 04:56 PM

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th3pr0tk3r wrote:
I am interested in taking up this course, is there any requirement needed to get in?
There is almost no requirement for this degree except the willingness to think abstractly .
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
I would like to clarify as of what Mathemagician have posted regarding what BME will do in first year which is Maths Proofing, what's maths proofing about? Anyone can show me some examples of the kind of questions and solutions given. I would appreciate it if someone can help me by showing me different type of questions according to module that would be covered in the process of the course.
Apologize for not writing clearly.. You wont see lots of proof in year 1.. basically first year is almost the same for every degree.. Introduction to Economics, Maths 1 & 2, Stats 1 & 2, and any other foundation units.. The contents of Maths 1 & 2 are just calculus (differentiation and integration), linear algebra (matrix), simple ordinary differential equation, and some optimisation problems which involves Lagrangian equation.
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
The purpose of me wanted to get into this course is because I have a strong passion in Mathematics since young and that has become my strength as well. Furthermore, I am intending to take Actuarial exams to become an actuary next time. Hence, the career i have in mind is to deal with lots of mathematical problems in finance/investment sector.
How do you define Mathematics? If you think you deal with lots of numbers then you will be dissappointed. The idea of mathematics from LSE maths department is about giving proper definitions and justifying things rigorously. Everyday is about n,m, x,y, z, alpha, beta, and gamma.
If you want to become an actuary you should be looking for a degree which deals heavily with statistics which unfortunately this degree does not.. but if you really want to give it a try, then you can take Statistics 1 & 2, Elements of Econometrics, Advanced Statistics : Distribution Theory and Advanced Statistics : Statistical Inference which should provide a solid grounding for your actuarial skill.
In terms of direct application of mathematics, you wont see much from this degree because it is quite theoretical and if you ever wonder why ? This is what they told me , "There is nothing quite as practical as a good theory" ~ Einstein



27072010, 10:51 PM

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Mathemagician wrote:
There is almost no requirement for this degree except the willingness to think abstractly .
Apologize for not writing clearly.. You wont see lots of proof in year 1.. basically first year is almost the same for every degree.. Introduction to Economics, Maths 1 & 2, Stats 1 & 2, and any other foundation units.. The contents of Maths 1 & 2 are just calculus (differentiation and integration), linear algebra (matrix), simple ordinary differential equation, and some optimisation problems which involves Lagrangian equation.
How do you define Mathematics? If you think you deal with lots of numbers then you will be dissappointed. The idea of mathematics from LSE maths department is about giving proper definitions and justifying things rigorously. Everyday is about n,m, x,y, z, alpha, beta, and gamma.
If you want to become an actuary you should be looking for a degree which deals heavily with statistics which unfortunately this degree does not.. but if you really want to give it a try, then you can take Statistics 1 & 2, Elements of Econometrics, Advanced Statistics : Distribution Theory and Advanced Statistics : Statistical Inference which should provide a solid grounding for your actuarial skill.
In terms of direct application of mathematics, you wont see much from this degree because it is quite theoretical and if you ever wonder why ? This is what they told me , "There is nothing quite as practical as a good theory" ~ Einstein
Thank you for clarifying my doubt. I wonder if the open house this coming 25 sept is useful to understand more on this course? Because i won't be able to attend as i will be having overseas training.
So since you said that there is no degree deals heavily with statistic offered in LSE, does it mean to becoming an actuary in future and to go for actuarial exams, picking up either Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Economics and Finance; Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Banking and Finance and Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Accounting and Finance too make not much a difference?
At the same time, what's the timetable schedule like for BME? I heard from my friend that studying fulltime there is about 3 hours a day only which allows me to have free time to work? I see that this course is not offered in part time and I, financially have difficulty in settling the course fees so I need to work for the money.
I like the part where you say that its dealing with x,y,z,etc because previously in secondary school I like studying A and E maths. So lastly, do you have exam papers or notes which you can send me? I would like to see the types of questions itself inorder to know if this is really the course I am looking for. Because coming from an irrelavent course in polytechnic, really make me suffer a lot just because of a sudden curiousity after O level. I should have just chose JC.
Again, thanks for picking time to answer all my questions!



28072010, 12:41 AM

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th3pr0tk3r wrote:
Thank you for clarifying my doubt. I wonder if the open house this coming 25 sept is useful to understand more on this course? Because i won't be able to attend as i will be having overseas training.
Open house of which university? SIM ? It depends on who is giving you the information.. if the person is an exstudent of BME then yeah otherwise probably not..
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
So since you said that there is no degree deals heavily with statistic offered in LSE, does it mean to becoming an actuary in future and to go for actuarial exams, picking up either Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Economics and Finance; Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Banking and Finance and Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Accounting and Finance too make not much a difference?
Here at the LSE, they have a specialised Bachelor of Actuarial Science wherein most of the modules are statistics. But this degree is not offered externally. I can safely say BnF and AnF wont help much, but EnF and MnE will definitely help.. for your case I would recommend taking EnF instead of MnE, use your electives to choose the statistics courses Advanced Statistics Distribution Theory and Statistical Inference.. but if you think you may consider doing MSc. Statistics or Finance or anything in the future, choose BME instead..
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
At the same time, what's the timetable schedule like for BME? I heard from my friend that studying fulltime there is about 3 hours a day only which allows me to have free time to work? I see that this course is not offered in part time and I, financially have difficulty in settling the course fees so I need to work for the money.
offered full time means that the (maths) classes are all in the morning and afternoon.. unless you have a weird working hours then yeah
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
I like the part where you say that its dealing with x,y,z,etc because previously in secondary school I like studying A and E maths. So lastly, do you have exam papers or notes which you can send me? I would like to see the types of questions itself inorder to know if this is really the course I am looking for. Because coming from an irrelavent course in polytechnic, really make me suffer a lot just because of a sudden curiousity after O level. I should have just chose JC.
Again, thanks for picking time to answer all my questions!
You can get the past exam papers from this website
http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/curr...ers_2009.shtml
The units that you should look for are the following (dont worry about the zone A and B, just choose any of them)
First Year
02 Introduction to Economics (full unit)
04a Statistics 1 (half unit)
04b Statistics 2 (half unit)
05a Mathematics 1 (half unit)
05b Mathematics 2 (half unit)
And 1 more full unit elective from group F(i) (F for foundation)
Second and Third Year
40 Game Theory (half unit)
41 Advanced Mathematical Analysis (half unit)
42 Optimisation Theory (half unit)
43 Mathematics of Finance and Valuation (half unit)
65 Macroeconomics (full unit)
66 Microeconomics (full unit)
116 Abstract Mathematics (full unit)
117 Advanced Calculus (half unit)
118 Advanced Linear Algebra (half unit)
120 Mathematical Economics (full unit)
133 Advanced Statistics: Distribution Theory (half unit)
134 Advanced Statistics: Statistical Inference (half unit)
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28072010, 10:45 AM

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so by saying lesson is in morning and afternoon, it means it will be the entire day? do you mind sharing your timetale now of different module.
to know more about the class itself and the social life there,
how many people are there in your class and what kind of background did most of them come from?
is it easy to be top in the class?
is there time for you to join other CCA activities in school?
in class what's the ratio of guys to girls?
since this course is a very tough course, i feel that those who choose it are those who always face the book everyday so to actually know, what are those kind of people inside? nerdy, sporty, outgoing, introverted, etc?
Sorry to ask so many questions, because i have determined that BME is going to be my choice of study. So have to know all this. haha



28072010, 04:14 PM

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th3pr0tk3r wrote:
so by saying lesson is in morning and afternoon, it means it will be the entire day? do you mind sharing your timetale now of different module.
No, the class is in the morning or afternoon for only 3 hours after that you are free.. I graduated last year, so hopefully any current BME student who is still studying can help you with this..
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
to know more about the class itself and the social life there,
how many people are there in your class and what kind of background did most of them come from?
Back then in my batch there are only 30+ people in the maths classes.. For the economics classes there will be many other students from the other degrees
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
is it easy to be top in the class?
It depends on who your classmates are...
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
is there time for you to join other CCA activities in school?
Yes
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
in class what's the ratio of guys to girls?
Ratio does not matter, what matters is whether there exists any hot chick in the course
th3pr0tk3r wrote:
since this course is a very tough course, i feel that those who choose it are those who always face the book everyday so to actually know, what are those kind of people inside? nerdy, sporty, outgoing, introverted, etc?
Not every individual is the same.. There are very smart people who spend only 34 hours per day studying and pass with flying colours while less intelligent people like me have to camp in the library from am to pm just to survive the course..



28072010, 04:35 PM

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29072010, 06:58 AM

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29072010, 09:09 AM

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