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Old 13-02-2018, 11:10 PM   #61
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Give you a football analogy - doesn’t mean you can score 50 goals in the S - league means you can score the same number of goals in EPL.

Look at dwight gayle from Newcastle. He scored so many goals in the championship but now in the epl he is struggling. Shows that his cep is cap at championship.
Haha good anology 😅
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Old 13-02-2018, 11:11 PM   #62
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maybe... but performance will always influence your judgement about a person's potential....over time we generally feel more optimistic (rightly or wrongly) about someone who has been performing well...and honestly majority of people in workplace will not have sufficient foresight to identify and recognise potential/talent...
another thing. performance could be short sighted. potential is looking far ahead.
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Old 13-02-2018, 11:13 PM   #63
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yeah. reminds me of wayne rooney. when he first played for everton, u know that his CEP is gonna be damn high. after join utd, he became the club's all time top scorer. if he stays at everton, I dun tink he can reach where he is rite now.
CEP high also no guarantee for success...like Joe Cole or Joe Hart...get worse and worse over time...we thought they are good...in the end actually overrated...
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Old 13-02-2018, 11:14 PM   #64
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CEP high also no guarantee for success...like Joe Cole or Joe Hart...get worse and worse over time...we thought they are good...in the end actually overrated...
Lololol. why suddenly we divert to football. hahahaha.
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Old 13-02-2018, 11:15 PM   #65
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CEP to a large extend is a fluffy thing, especially more peasant like the bulk of us.
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Old 13-02-2018, 11:19 PM   #66
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Key Difference – Potential vs Performance

Potential and performance are two words that often go together although there is a key difference between these two words.

Potential refers to the capabilities of an individual that can be developed. On the other hand, performance refers to completing various tasks that have been assigned to the individual.

In the working environment, employees who have high potential are able to perform at a higher level than other employees. But does the same rule apply to high performers as well? It is in this context that the key difference between potential and performance emerge. In most situations, although high potential guarantees high performance, high performance does not guarantee high potential.
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:31 AM   #67
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CEP to a large extend is a fluffy thing, especially more peasant like the bulk of us.
so true.......
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:36 AM   #68
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So it’s fixed ?

Determined when you are hired for the job?

Based on academic performance and whatever job experience up to the point when they hire you?


Your immediate boss may not know your CEP.
But from your initial postings and how fast you rotate, and rotate to where, you probably can guess roughly are you on fast track.

btw CEP is not adjusted up and down like stocks based on short term performance.
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:51 AM   #69
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Does that means that in the coming future, you will get promoted faster?

Can HR experts clarify here?
yes.. but also means more work and also means you will be graded to a higher standard.
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:52 AM   #70
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can we know whats our CEP then? will our boss reveal to us?
only if you ask very nicely.
finding out your own CEP is like a hidden mission in the role playing game. the time it takes you to find out indicates your sarkiness
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:54 AM   #71
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what do u mean by CEP is not adjusted up and down? u mean its a rare occurence to have CEP adjusted up/down?
generally yes. maybe in first few years it moves.. but would be very strange for someone who has spent quite a few years in an organisation to suddenly shift CEP. either he or she pulled off some amazingly difficult task or else they screwed up spectacularly.
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:56 AM   #72
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CEP is more or less fixed when you reach 35. And you will probably hit your CEP grade by 45.
45? no lah.. not when retirement is 67.
in fact most people never actually hit their ultimate CEP.
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Old 14-02-2018, 06:59 AM   #73
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CEP can only generally go down and that's if you screw up.

It usually stays where it is, and that's pretty much decided from the day you sign on the dotted line.

Never heard of it going up before.
no lah.. not true.. a lot of ataff who join with low CEP often will see it revised up after a few years of proven performance. it is only the scholars and graduates who tend to have a cast in stone CEP.
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Old 14-02-2018, 07:01 AM   #74
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i always find the idea of CEP a bit funny. How could things like your university, GPA etc be more important than your recent performance?
there is already a performance grading system to reward current / recent performance. CEP is about estimating potential.. where can this individual ultimately end up in the organisation.
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Old 14-02-2018, 07:04 AM   #75
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but shouldn't better performance also kinda eventually build up to higher potential?

this is not like pokemon go leh. higher IV means more powerful. lol
someone can be a super high performing technician, doesn't mean they have the potential to be director.

in fact that was the problem previously in my opinion. they equated performance to potential and promoted people who really were much better suited to stay at their previous role into higher management roles when they were not managers..

it is called the Peter's principle. you get promoted to the level of your incompetence.
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