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Old 01-01-2016, 10:28 AM   #61
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Also why is sharing of alternate forums not allowed? It's not violating any law right, like some people also share gaming or product URL. It's just to provide an option to other members.
Other boards do not attract members through HWZ or vice versa. The only traffic they have is through HWZ. Prob that's why?

They are free to advert anywhere else to attract their traffic. It's like someone advertising their blog entries for additional traffic here, not violating any law but considered an ad nonetheless.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:16 PM   #64
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Hi everyone,

Sounds like there have been a number of sudden misunderstandings that have escalated with emotions riding high. Let me try to help clear up some of these matters to the best of my knowledge as I would like everyone to have a smooth 2016.

Donít say we never say!


1) I've noted on the handful of infraction messages that were inappropriate. I've addressed this issue with the team and to be more mindful and tactful in their future messaging.

I apologize on behalf of the team for any misunderstandings that came about from that incident.


2) Sudden concern on the choice of words.

Let's be clear on this matter - if your purpose is to ridicule, cause hurt, pass off lewd comments, etc. Ė youíll be infracted. However, donít equate that with censoring words altogether. We're not unreasonably that you can't kickback at all. For example, cursing out of frustration or just exclamation, we've long ignored all of these to give the community a little room around the rules. If we go by the rules blindly, there's really no leeway for that. But, we understand there needs to be some allowance.

But what we'll not tolerate is directing these unacceptable words at someone as that's clearly contravening the rules. Please refer to general member rules, clause 5.2 and 6.2

http://sph.com.sg/legal/member_conditions.html

Also, kindly refer to this old post of mine:-
http://deluxeforums.hardwarezone.com...d-1733312.html

On a related note, Iíve considered the term ďAtb Ö..Ē - a term that some of you were upset about being infracted on. After careful consideration, Iíve concluded that it has no other meaning other than what itís supposed to mean and thus, offensive. That word will now join the ranks of it being bleeped out of the system. Which means to say, if you try to beat the system, you will be infracted.


3) Posting photos of others or ladies.

We get it. You guys enjoy sharing nice photos of others.
Nothing wrong with that Ė this has been ongoing for a very long time and we don't disallow it.

The exception is when you go overboard with lewd comments, be prepared to get infracted. What happened to the days when people just +1 because they liked a photo or pass decent compliments? Often the comments are really demeaning. If you canít abide by the said rules above, throwing a fuss about it only makes it worse for you as youíre in the wrong to begin with. Yes, we probably havenít infracted everyone else for similar offences, but neither are we screening every post in the forum. That means youíre already given a hall pass despite the forum rules. If youíre warned/infracted, just take note and move along.

Apart from commenting, if youíre aim of posting someoneís photo is to ridicule or cause harm to them, then weíve all rights to remove the post or the discussion, again thatís in accordance to the rules. Itís also common sense, no? Yes, the photo (and related info) may be publicly available, but your intention of starting a particular topic with regards to that content is the key issue. Letís take an example of a knife Ė itís easily accessible to anyone and you typically use it to cut meats or other equivalent food. Itís harmless, until you intend to use it to stab someone. See the difference?

Does that mean you can automatically post any publicly available photo? Not really.

i) Someone might write in to object the use of their photo in the discussion because they arenít comfortable with the association of the discussion or just any public exposure. You might say itís on the internet, but the user may not have secured his/her social profiles and related image banks, for which we do advise them at the time of complaint to keep such publicly accessible content private. This is related to the intention and use of the image by the threadstarter.

ii) If you post riske, naked, close-to-naked, provocative or pornographic related images, they will be removed and you will be infracted. Thereís a limit to whatís tolerable and decent. This forum board is meant for all walks of life and age and we would appreciate if can respect this. If you require adult entertainment, there are other boards to use.



4) Generally, rules are present to be a guide.

It is not the bible, nor can the moderators perform a thorough moderation to stick to the rules - unless otherwise all posts are screened, which is impossible given the volume. So moderation falls upon the task of a few who are here to assess reported posts and generally help facilitate the use of the forum. We'll try to maintain better uniformity, but we'll also need the help of forum users to report on matters they come across that doesn't fit within the broad rules of the forum.



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Having said the above, if you feel strongly against something or a given infraction/warning, please drop us a note in the feedback forum? There really is no point stirring threads in EDMW to voice your justification Ė youíre not going to get an answer unless the issue has been taken note and investigated. Post your concerns in the right place Ė the feedback forum. We will not condone threads rallying for your cause.

It is far easier for us to track matters in this manner and communicate appropriately. That said, youíll need to keep an open mind. An appeal or demand doesnít mean youíll get your way and itís just a step towards finding out why youíve been warned or infracted. If you feel youíve been unfairly treated, bring this up to a higher level of moderators, or PM the admins. But at all times, please stay level headed and be open to the fact that you may have been in the wrong. Else, no level of appeal would help because youíve pre-determined that your way is right. This is the cause for most misunderstandings and spreading misinformation.

I would like everyone to also note that moderators are members of the forum as well Ė with additional duties. They are just like the rest of you with feelings and opinions too. However humans arenít perfect and occasional slip-ups can occur. Give them a chance to explain in the feedback forum and donít mistake or misinterpret their intentions.

Weíve reviewed actions taken in the past when itís voiced in the right place and channel Ė so please continue with this as we continually learn and improve the way we moderate, more so because we now have more new folks whoíve joined the team.


TL;DR version Ė Nothing new, everything has been covered in the TOS and in the existing stickies. This is more like a reminder.


Thank you for you kind understanding guys and Happy New Year.

p.s. All posts/threads that promote/support alternative boards will be removed. I don't need to draw the dots to tell you why. I've also received a lot of complaints on members promoting it via PMs too. Action will be taken and if I've not taken any, it's just because I'm in the festive mood.

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Old 01-01-2016, 04:14 PM   #65
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So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message? I hate repeating myself, but I think this question has been asked a lot of times and is an important question to restore any sort of confidence in the moderation team, especially the junior mods as due to a lack of information/transparency, many are suspecting that a junior mod was involved. Till date the only reply I've got is a generic "we will look into it and improve where we can" type of response, without any indication on whether the mod has been disciplined or removed and what kinds of actions has been taken.
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So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message? I hate repeating myself, but I think this question has been asked a lot of times and is an important question to restore any sort of confidence in the moderation team, especially the junior mods as due to a lack of information/transparency, many are suspecting that a junior mod was involved. Till date the only reply I've got is a generic "we will look into it and improve where we can" type of response, without any indication on whether the mod has been disciplined or removed and what kinds of actions has been taken.
say so many times liao. jr mod give infraction will use their name. not hwzadmin.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:55 PM   #67
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As per my New Year note, I've informed the moderating team that such messaging should not be done. It's a learning point for the team.

So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message?
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:03 PM   #68
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As per my New Year note, I've informed the moderating team that such messaging should not be done. It's a learning point for the team.
So nothing else done to the mod?
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Old 01-01-2016, 08:17 PM   #69
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From what I see, some individuals still trying to stir shyt and bait the mods...?
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From what I see, some individuals still trying to stir shyt and bait the mods...?
Why you huan lo again ?
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Old 01-01-2016, 08:25 PM   #71
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Why you huan lo again ?
serious thread here you know...
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:00 AM   #72
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serious thread here you know...
Asking for transparency and equal standards, you huan lo?
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:26 AM   #73
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Asking for transparency and equal standards, you huan lo?
Why, not happy ah ?
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Old 02-01-2016, 01:54 PM   #74
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Happy new year Vijay !


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Old 02-01-2016, 02:19 PM   #75
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Vijay kor kor, when am I going to be made mod

I promise I won't abuse authority (too much)
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