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Old 28-08-2013, 10:15 AM   #31
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Btw, what is JW? Jesus Weekend?

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Later on, I got to know a Christian girl and she invited me to JW for Sunday afternoon service... the whole thing seemed too commercial to me (people in suits escorting the cash offering etc).... the girl and I broke off so I got away a second time...
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either it means Jurong West.. CHC's last time building (the one with titanium platings on the outside one..)


or Jehovah Witness
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Old 28-08-2013, 10:17 AM   #32
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either it means Jurong West.. CHC's last time building (the one with titanium platings on the outside one..)[/QUOTE]

Not last time.

It still is chc building.

Hope they close down
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Old 28-08-2013, 10:27 AM   #33
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Actually all these pastor very greedy, if i am the pastor, i tell myself the limit is one mth 30k in my pocket from the church money legally, ok liao. Makan so much money for fark, too risky and ppl will know... what live in sentosa cove, drive big car etc... Take a bit here and there from the church, 30k enuf to lead a comfortable life, very good liao.
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Old 28-08-2013, 10:33 AM   #34
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i was "forced" to attend CHC for a while, from my 1st visit, i already felt something amiss.
born into a christian family, i've only know christianity all my life and i was disgusted by their constant asking for money.
i was also taken back when i saw ATM looking machines where u could "offer" your offerings if you dont have cash. basically a total opposite from an ATM.
that plus the constant taunting from the members there sealed the deal.
never went back and never will.
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Old 21-09-2013, 03:45 PM   #35
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Deposit machines? Wah for real?
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Old 21-09-2013, 03:59 PM   #37
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if u observe the past week court sessions, the defence damn power. hope the judge come to a fair verdict, base on evidence, and not smooth talk.
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Old 30-09-2013, 10:00 PM   #38
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latest confession - more funny stuff revealed? :



Kong Hee, Tan Ye Peng, and John Lam - Let's look at how amateurish, audacious, opportunistic and crafty they are through the sagas of Galaxy Capital loan and Glory Capital loan.

I will not go into the details of the plundering of the $138,000,000 (approximate) Arise and Build Funds that led to the need to borrow $50,000,000 Galaxy Capital loan to purchase the additional 19.2% stake in Suntec in August 2012.

A brief background:

In March 2010, City Harvest Church announced a $310,000,000 “deal” to be a co-owner of Suntec Convention Center and to use part of the space (around 44%) for its religious services on weekends for 10 years.

City Harvest Church officials were tight-lipped on the details of the “deal”, citing a Non-Disclosure-Agreement (NDA) with the vendor, an Indonesian consortium who had just bought 80% of the Suntec Convention Center from ARA Asset Management, owner of the Suntec REIT.

Why is the deal shrouded in secrecy?

Unknown to the congregation, the “deal” only involved the purchase of a mere 20% stake of Suntec Convention Center for $43,800,000, valuing the property at $219,000,000.

The balance $266,200,000, which is more than the entire value of Suntec Convention Center, was for:

a) A 4 + 6 years deal to rent 44% of the space, of which the rental cost is around $15,000,000 each year.
(The projected return from the 20% stake was around $2,000,000+, giving a yield of 4+% each year.)

b) A hefty shifting budget.
During the first year in Suntec Convention Center, the shifting cost was around $15,000,000, cleverly broken into four parts to make it less conspicuous.

c) A one-off Audio-Visual equipment cost that was reported to be around $13,000,000.

d) A $5,500,000 rental deposit, minor renovations, and services for Audio Visual Installation.


At that time, the Arise and Build Fund had raised around $100,000,000 (approximate) but it was so depleted that a bridging loan (paying 9% interest rate) was even needed to pay for part of the $43,8000,000 purchase.

In August 2011, the Indonesian consortium decided to cash out with a hefty Internal Rate of Return (IRR) of 64.8% or Equity Multiple of 2.2 times. To the Indonesian consortium, City Harvest Church was a Santa Claus as City Harvest Church is paying top dollars for rental and keeping the facilities 98% leased.

Suntec REIT, who already owns a 20% stake, was given the First Right of Refusal for the 60% stake put up for sale by the Indonesian consortium.

Suntec REIT shrewdly offered 19.2% of the stake to City Harvest Church at $54,000,000, just to give City Harvest Church a 49% minority stake in the vehicle that owned 80% of Suntec Convention Centre.

The Arise and Build Fund had raised around $123,000,000 (approximate) by 2011. But it was so depleted that City Harvest Church needed to borrow $50,000,000 to pay for the additional 19.2% stake at $54,000,000.

Why buy an additional 19.2% when there is no more fund while tithes and offerings were falling?

After the CAD's raid in May 2010, Kong Hee and gang knew that they could not hide behind the NDA anymore.

There would be an uproar if the congregation knew that the “deal” dubbed “Our Promised Land” had only a 20% ownership costing only $43,800,000.

City Harvest Church is willing to pay $310,000,000 just to own a 20% stake in Suntec Convetion Center, and use 44% of the space for weekends only for10 years. The valuation of the property at the purchase price was only $219,000,000!

To make this deal that made no financial sense more palatable to the congregation, Kong Hee and gang gladly committed to buy the additional 19.2% stake at $54,000,000 when there was no fund left in the Arise and Build Fund.

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Old 30-09-2013, 10:01 PM   #39
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Galaxy Capital Loan:

To raise the fund, Tan Ye Peng and John Lam went around to borrow from the banks but were unsuccessful.

It was not just the ongoing investigations that turned the bank off.

There were four tranches of outstanding “super-low-interest unsecured loans” given to AMAC Capital in the form of Special Opportunity Funds, amounting to $17,935,000, that spooked the banks.

These four tranches (Tranche 13, 14, 16, and 18) of unsecured “loans” were lent to AMAC Capital from November 2009 to May 2010, just prior to the CAD’s raid on 30 May 2010. These unsecured “loans” had been rolled over since August 2011.

In other words, these loans were already in default.
However, during the rounds with the banks, Tan Ye Peng and John Lam learnt something.

1) Front-end fee. This is a one-off and negotiable fee usually used by the banks to charge an additional 0.5-1.0% fee just to improve the margin.

2) Private Equity Fund will lend to a high-risk client like City Harvest Church for a hefty interest rate of 15% per annum, if the loan is fully secured by collateral.

When Tan Ye Peng managed to convince an ultra-high net worth church member, who is related to the Indonesian consortium, to help set up and arrange for Galaxy Capital to lend $50,000,000 to City Harvest Church at 10% per annum over three years, Kong Hee and gang saw an opportunity.

Knowing that the market rate is 15% as City Harvest Church was having such a bad publicity, Kong Hee and gang did the following:

1) Incorporate 3%, 4%, and 5% front-end fees for the amount of outstanding loan in the beginning of year 1, 2, and 3 of the Galaxy Loan. That is $1,500,000, $1,600,000, and $1,500,000 respectively. A total of $4,600,000 to be paid as front-end fees to an unknown party.

2) They told this ultra-high net worth member that the mark-up was needed to help pay for the $20,000,000 + “loans” secretly borrowed from other churches and individuals to redeem the Xtron and FIRNA bonds after the CAD raid in May 2010.

The continuous plundering weighed on the finances of City Harvest Church. It was so bad that the progress payment for Galaxy Loan could not be repaid in Year 2.

John Lam, despite his suspension by COC, worked on and put up a refinancing proposal.

The new Investment Committee recommended against the refinancing proposal as hefty multi-year front-end fees were again incorporated for the 5-year deal.

In the financial markets, a 3-5% and multi-year front-end fee is highly suspicious and inappropriate, especially when it is not clear on who is actually receiving the fees.

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Glory Capital Loan:

After the failed attempt at refinancing, Kong Hee and gang then bypassed the new Investment Committee and put Bobby Chaw as the front person to do the Glory Capital Loan.

Kong Hee and gang craftily structured the Glory Capital Loan to achieve the following:

1) “Legitimize” the questionable multi-year front-end fee as if it is a normal practice in the financial industry.

2a) Artificially boosted the value of Suntec Convention Center to $500,000,000 by giving it a conversion price of $46,000,000 for the 9.2% stake to be forfeited by Glory Capital; should City Harvest Church default on the loan.

2b) The actual conversion price is only $33,000,000 as there is an irrevocable front-end fee of $13,000,000 to be paid to Glory Capital even if the forfeiture takes place. This will give Suntec Convention Centre a valuation of $358,700,000.

2c) City Harvest Church acquired the 39.2% stake at $97,8000,000, valuing Suntec Convention Centre at $249,500,000.

However, Suntec REIT carried out a $180,000,000 Asset Enhancement Initiative to give Suntec Convention Center a facelift, the liability of City Harvest Church’s 39.2% stake in Suntec Convention Center is $70,560,000.

3) In essence, City Harvest Church will most likely retire the outstanding $42,000,000 of the non-performing $50,000,000 Galaxy Loan by forgoing a 9.2% stake in Suntec Convention Center.

This is after paying at least $30,000,000+ in fees and interest to both Galaxy Capital and Glory Capital.

4) Eventually, City Harvest Church will retain a 30% stake in Suntec Convention Centre, projected to yield a dividend income of $3,000,000 - $5,000,000 a year.

City Harvest Church also assumed a liability of $54,000,000 for the $180,000,000 renovation loan taken up by Suntec REIT.

In summary:

1) It is unlikely that the initial NDA in 2010 was the initiative of the vendor (Indonesian consortium) as the cost of shifting, equipment, and minor renovation did not concern the vendor at all.

Motive:
Kong Hee and gang used the NDA to “mask” the true composition of the $310,000,000 “deal”.

It is absurb that City Harvest Church asked the congregation to progressively pay up $310,000,000 just to own a 20% stake in Suntec Convention Center and rent 44% of the space on weekends only for 10 years; when the property was valued at only $219,000,000 at the time of purchase!

2) The Arise and Build Fund was cleverly mandated to pay for the rental of premises also. This is a financially imprudent practice of matching a recurring long-term rental expense with an extraordinary ad-hoc income of Arise of Build Campaigns.

It is clear that the stated goal for the investment in Suntec Convention Center to self-sustain cannot be achieved. ($3,000,000 to $5,000,000 dividend income versus $15,000,000 - $30,000,000 in rental/shifting/service fees)

Motive:
This frees up more than $10,000,000 from the general operating budget of City Harvest Church. Kong Hee and gang can then freely allocate these funds in the general operating budget to “Mission Donations” with little transparency and accountability.

A case in point, City Harvest Church donated $3,000,000 to City Harvest Church KL.

We understand that the City Harvest Church KL only got to keep $300,000. The balance $2,700,000 was promptly distributed as follows:

a) $1,700,000 was distributed to Mark Kwan and Henry Chee.
b) $1,000,000 was distributed to Sun's “Singaporean supporting crew” in USA as “hardship allowance”.

3) The non-permanent nature of the premises at Expo Changi and Suntec Convention Center entailed constant shifting each year.

Motive:
Hefty mark-up in shifting costs when hundreds of volunteers helped out with the moves. Some people are getting very rich. Just ask Henry Chee.

4) There is so much “fat” built into the $310,000,000 “deal”. After the acquisition of an additional 19.2% stake at $54,000,000, the “deal” still stands at $310,000,000.

Aries shamelessly thanked that people who are doing the shifting for their hard work to make the “savings” possible.

Motives:
This will give Kong Hee and gang the means to fleece the church while making the yearly Arise and Build Campaign a necessity for a long time to come
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Old 30-09-2013, 10:02 PM   #41
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To my dear brothers and sisters in City Harvest Church:

You might have been told that the leadership had “Right Motives, Wrong Methods.”
You might have been told that God had given Kong Hee a vision to reach out to the lost souls through cultural mandate.
You might have been told all the siphoning and unlawful acts are to fulfill God’s vision given to a man of God.
I will leave it to you to decide what you want to do.

The funds that are being round-tripped and debated in Singapore court recently; at least now we know where these monies ended up - funding the lavish lifestyle and personal ambitions of Kong Hee and Sun.

But there is at least another $10,000,000 to $20,000,000 of God’s money that was/is being siphoned off each year through mark-up in procurements and services provided to City Harvest Church, and dubious “Mission Donations” with little transparency and accountability.

Whose pockets did these monies end up in?

What is Kong Hee’s net worth?
No one really knows but some in the know guess it is in the region of $40,000,000 to 70,000,000.
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Old 30-09-2013, 10:03 PM   #42
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Recently, many OMs and MMs watched Reverend Bobby Chaw on stage trying in vain to convince them that the borrowing of $50,000,000 (12.5-15% interest rate + a total of $17,600,000 in irrevocable front-end fees) to buy an additional 19.2% stake of Suntec Convention Center was such a shrewd investment (3-4 +% dividend yield).

Reverend Bobby did not even bother to explain why the Arise and Build Funds were so depleted in the first place.

Many of these members must be thinking:
Is this the guy that I want to lead myself and my family in our spiritual walk?

Kong Hee and gang are going to kick start another round of Arise and Build in October 2013, with 6, 7, or 8 more to come.

If you think Kong Hee and gang should be exposed, please forward this article to any member of City Harvest Church that you know, or anyone you think that may know a member of City Harvest Church.

God bless.



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Old 30-09-2013, 10:09 PM   #43
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dont need to post about CHC liao this man is condemned as a failure, a liar, a cheat and also a god that is mightier than the one he believes in i hope his son grows up to understand his parents' misdeeds and not follow in their footsteps
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Old 30-09-2013, 10:25 PM   #44
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some more hanky panky being unearthed.

Looks like more money is unaccounted for and many more people involved.
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Old 30-09-2013, 10:29 PM   #45
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To my dear brothers and sisters in City Harvest Church:

You might have been told that the leadership had “Right Motives, Wrong Methods.”
You might have been told that God had given Kong Hee a vision to reach out to the lost souls through cultural mandate.
You might have been told all the siphoning and unlawful acts are to fulfill God’s vision given to a man of God.
I will leave it to you to decide what you want to do.

The funds that are being round-tripped and debated in Singapore court recently; at least now we know where these monies ended up - funding the lavish lifestyle and personal ambitions of Kong Hee and Sun.

But there is at least another $10,000,000 to $20,000,000 of God’s money that was/is being siphoned off each year through mark-up in procurements and services provided to City Harvest Church, and dubious “Mission Donations” with little transparency and accountability.

Whose pockets did these monies end up in?

What is Kong Hee’s net worth?
No one really knows but some in the know guess it is in the region of $40,000,000 to 70,000,000.
even if he sentenced guilty i doubt they'll make him cough out all those money back...

so in the end ultimate winner is that sun ho..........

and after a few years of prison life kong hee still can come out enjoy....
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