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Old 07-12-2017, 08:27 AM   #1
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Why isn't Singapore manufacturing cars?

(There are manufacturing plants for aircraft parts and armored fighting vehicles so is not manufacturing capability issue.)

I mean, other countries, when they want to boost the sales of their own companies, they impose an import tax. While Singapore with its ultimate corrup -I mean control of car population for the good of the country, we already have an ARF of 100%-180%.

With the flexibility to shift goalposts change laws on the fly for the well-being of the country, like when they suddenly realized that somehow after 50 years Singapore needs a Malay president again, they can easily create a local car company that does not need to pay ARF. And with ARFs so high, the local company can be twice as expensive and still remain competitive price-wise.

Then all the millions of $, instead of going to Japan and Germany, will go to our politicians and FTs. And our mechanical engineering grads can finally get proper jobs. It's win-win.

Or unless we are not competitive even if our cars get a 100% price advantage? But then that would mean something about our buses and trains... and armored fighting vehicles...
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:29 AM   #2
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Mrt cannot even fix

Want to build cars

Should make more mental health centres for people like ts
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:30 AM   #3
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Need a lot of land space for a product tt works by volume not profit margin. Can't work for Singapore
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:32 AM   #4
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against car lite policy.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:34 AM   #5
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Sometimes I wonder if ppl can tell where are the goal posts before accusing gov of shifting them......
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:36 AM   #6
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Sg engineers are too stupid and expensive

Cause lhl fugtard loves to import abn dogs with fake degrees
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:36 AM   #7
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Dumb Question. Car need 24 production. We already shortage of 12 hour security guards and cleaners..
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:39 AM   #8
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Nobody registered? Not worth the investment i guess. They canít just setup factory here and sell overseas loh, the labour here so exp.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:41 AM   #9
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why do we need that when we can manufacture something called COE and charge higher than the production of car?

Look at proton and our invincible COE...
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Cos we dont have comparative advantage in labour...

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Old 07-12-2017, 08:43 AM   #11
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Some drivers here are noob, google map nor waze also don't know how to use.

Better import and let our gahmen tax and earn
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:20 PM   #12
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This question hits me like a wham on my face. Sobering truths...

Singapore lacks the infrastructure, market, government enthusiasm, favourable economic terrain to provide material resource, labour and talent.

Apart from that, the existing global competition is too stiff. We will head down the same way as the UK when their former glorious car makers have all been taken over by Asian giants to generate more sustainable profits & operating results.

Manufacturing industries are quickly taken over by cheaper and rapidly improving markets. China with decades of experience in manufacturing has nurtured sufficient talent, built strong connections to tap on innovating countries like Germany, Japan and US. A wide population demographic of various trained people makes it easier for China and India to tap on these resources to produce cars.

We have difficulty securing these foreign investments and keeping them here for the manufacturing industry to survive already, let alone thrive. How can we even dream of a car building industry especially when the government has never thought of going that way?

Malaysia has to introduce import tax to stifle the competition so as to promote the domestically produced Proton and Perodua to the local market. our country does not have enough land to accommodate the cars to create a sufficient market size. And our government has a 'car-lite' obsession even when we have problems with our public transport. So this tax will not help much.

Going overseas? Realistic external challenges aside, we know that Singapore has never been a country where innovation is supported. Innovation is one of the pillars to ensuring a proper engineering that helps to promote our products' selling point into the market. Bosch Lenksystem had this self parking assist way back in the last decade quickly replicated by their competitors. LuK has this radially suspended flywheel to help dampen rotary vibration protecting driveline lifespan quickly incorporated by ZF into the torque converters lock up clutch as well in a different manner. Now, Mazda is challenging combustion quality with the new HCCI engines to produce cleaner emissions against the downsized, force charged engines produced by their competition in Europe. Innovation war is fast and cut throat, all trying to outdo each other in the shortest possible time to put them ahead of the game.

We don't even have a reasonable patent system to encourage innovation or when a patent claim is disregarded, a proper explanation to the public to justify the action. (google Dr Ting Choon Meng) On top of that, the foreign worshipping culture of local management continues to impede the determination of locals to come forth and innovate.

Without cheap labour to produce parts that can be easily replicated by another country, without continuous innovation and strong engineering to make us continuously exclusive and wanted in the market to justify the cost, We are neither able to survive with our puny domestic market nor have the support to go overseas. Singapore building cars is just a dream that will never come true unless we overhaul ourselves.

Sadly this conclusion comes after I have spent 15 years of my working life in the automotive industry in various positions from MRO to Manufacturing automotive parts, RMA processes, auditing APQP, QMS, processes, assisting in design etc.... And no, I don't work for a local company. A local company will never give me the opportunity to scale greater heights.
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Singapore should make own handphone! Just like Nokia company!
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:24 PM   #14
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not many places can do r&d test track. you see each automaker's home test tracks fking big


think only ST can feasibly do niche production of land vehicles.. they sure can get permit to use those armour's playgrounds
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(There are manufacturing plants for aircraft parts and armored fighting vehicles so is not manufacturing capability issue.)

I mean, other countries, when they want to boost the sales of their own companies, they impose an import tax. While Singapore with its ultimate corrup -I mean control of car population for the good of the country, we already have an ARF of 100%-180%.

With the flexibility to shift goalposts change laws on the fly for the well-being of the country, like when they suddenly realized that somehow after 50 years Singapore needs a Malay president again, they can easily create a local car company that does not need to pay ARF. And with ARFs so high, the local company can be twice as expensive and still remain competitive price-wise.

Then all the millions of $, instead of going to Japan and Germany, will go to our politicians and FTs. And our mechanical engineering grads can finally get proper jobs. It's win-win.

Or unless we are not competitive even if our cars get a 100% price advantage? But then that would mean something about our buses and trains... and armored fighting vehicles...
R u trolling???

a pathetic MRT network also can't handle!

u wanna them to build car!
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