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Old 06-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #2191
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why still stick to 433?

can just go back to 442? we dun have the players to play 433 after cesc left.
3 in middle of the park already struggling.
How to play 2 ?
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:17 PM   #2192
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But if its wrong for a player to be disloyal to a club.....

Is it wrong for a club to be disloyal to a player then?

I mean, clubs nowadays have no qualms about importing players from either other clubs or overseas to boost their squad, rather than giving their youngsters chance. In that sense, have the club betrayed the youngsters who aspire to one day don the club's 1st team jersey, but not given a chance to do so?

It sounds similar to employers nowadays isn't it?
It's all for the good of the club.
If the home grown youngsters will be as good as the import in a few years, then maybe the club and fans should show some patience.
But if everyone knows the youngsters will never be able to make it, then just forget it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:38 PM   #2193
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stats dun lie.
Arsenal's defensive record this season is worst in 28 years (since season 83/84) , 47 goals conceded in 37 games.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:16 PM   #2194
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If I'm not wrong, assuming Chelsea wins the CL and is out of the top four,

Top three of BPL will auto qualify and the fourth team will have nothing(maybe have the Europa League spot?). Liverpool currently already in the Europa League for winning the League Cup.
seems like everyone has a different take on whether 3rd in the league or Chelsea (assuming CL winner) is required to play qualifier for next season's Champ's League.

Can only hope tonight's results to go Arsenal's way to secure 3rd, followed by a Bayern victory at home for best case senario. Can't overstate the importance of CL auto qualification for Arsenal next season, in retaining and attracting quality players and pre season preparations after Euros!

Arsenal pls win the last game to at least give us a chance for next season...
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:45 PM   #2195
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The winners of the 2011–12 UEFA Champions League, i.e., the title holder, are given an additional entry if they do not qualify for the tournament through their domestic performance; however, because of the restriction that no association can have more than four teams playing in the Champions League, if the title holder is from the top three associations, this additional entry will come at the expense of the fourth-placed team of their association
just checked

So it's confirmed that should Chelsea win the CL, only the top three teams of BPL will be in next season's CL and Chelsea do not need to play the qualifiers. And yes the question still remains if the third-placed team has to play the qualifiers.

If Chelsea win and finish outside top four in league

Because of the restriction that no association can have more than four teams playing in the Champions League, the fourth-placed team of the 2011–12 Premier League, which would have entered in the 2012–13 Champions League play-off round, will be moved to the 2012–13 UEFA Europa League. In this case, the allocation system for the Champions League will be changed in the same way as above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2...ampions_League
From the above and looking at the Group Stage header, the top three teams of BPL are automatically qualified.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:19 PM   #2196
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vermaelen is quality, but his positioning sense is really jialet.

He can be good but off late he has lost some focus. Was very poor last night.
More determined to go forward than to stay back and defend.
On current form, Kos is better than him.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:00 PM   #2197
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He can be good but off late he has lost some focus. Was very poor last night.
More determined to go forward than to stay back and defend.
On current form, Kos is better than him.
That's becos there is no defensive coach telling him how to play properly.
He is just playing on instinct.
The commentators always say we got very good individual defenders but collectively as a unit they are rubbish.

Just promote Steve Bould from youth coach to first team coach and let him take care of the defensive department.
It that is not enough, rope in Keown to help as well.

Won't cost much except Wenger losing face.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:03 PM   #2198
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Yesterdays result really spoil my whole day, & the persistent rain doesn't help either.

Very terrible feeling & I can imagine the pain of Spurs fan mocking us for at least one season if we lost CL place & finish below them.

And how we retail RVP, & attract other big players to join us.

Podoski joining us, with RVP, we have a good attack & full of promise for next season, if only RVP can stay.

On a side note, yesterday, Cologne (where Podoski played) lost & are relegated with a lot of violent in the stadium.

Bugenesliga quite interesting also, you can have big club from main city like Frankfurt (which my colleague describe as a lousy club with a very nice stadium), & now Cologne in the lower divisions.

I will be supporting FC Munich (which have by far the biggest fan base in Germany) for the Final obviously.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:06 PM   #2199
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verm likes to disposses and intercept the ball from his opponents more. Yest match and in the past his mistakes has been the most evident, not the first time he met with strikers who can out play him..Koscielny more of the old fashion tackle no nonsense defender..think norwhich do a through study on our CBs and look at how they play along with verm..

in the past cesc says wenger match prep is crap, they dun do video analysis, guess yest kinda says it. Their positioning really needs some ironing..wenger is really to inherit George G CBs
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:41 PM   #2200
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verm likes to disposses and intercept the ball from his opponents more. Yest match and in the past his mistakes has been the most evident, not the first time he met with strikers who can out play him..Koscielny more of the old fashion tackle no nonsense defender..think norwhich do a through study on our CBs and look at how they play along with verm..

in the past cesc says wenger match prep is crap, they dun do video analysis, guess yest kinda says it. Their positioning really needs some ironing..wenger is really to inherit George G CBs
personally, i think the player that is crap should be song and gibbs. i think song has lost his mojo and discipline. as a DM, he shld be staying back and protecting the back 4. how many times this season have we seen him venturing in the opposition's penalty area trying to be cesc? he's not doing his primary job and tat's the biggest mistakes. when arteta is ard, he's experience enough to know that this clown hair guy likes to push forward, so arteta will sit back and protect. when u look at the games when arteta were not playing, how exposes are the back 4? and why?? because the player did not do his job. he can't rely on ramsey to do wat arteta does because 1) he's too young and not experience enough to see the danger 2) he's a bloody attacking player for god's sack.

when song thinks he can contribute more in attacking sense then fulfilling his primary role, our defence are basically gone. moreover, ytd he was like not interested. he's not in the right state of mind or his body language just shows he doesn't wanna challenge for any 50-50 ball against nor-witch players. he was lazy in tracking back, half hearted challenges and not good enough.

next, kieran gibbs. for how many gazillion times had he left our left flank area exposed. although he's quick, but he is horrible in recoverying the situation. poor in reading the danger and time and time again, goes too much forward leaving our CBs having to cover the empty slots. his defensive ability is not gd enough for a club like arsenal and this should be rectified. althou santos likes to go forward as well, he's more able to recover the situation and get a tackle in. u can see gibbs will only track back and stay to his man, while doing nothing to make a challenge and win the ball back.

credit to norwich players, although they are greatly help by yet another incapable referee, they played that it meant more to them than the team. which is really disappointing, knowing the stakes at risk. if we rlly ends up in 4th spot, i think the culprits will have to be made accountable of their sins.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:38 PM   #2201
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We just threw 3rd place out of the window after 4 games without a win.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:00 PM   #2202
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Surprisingly nobody is blaming SZ13.
First goal was entirely his fault and no one else.
Even an s league keeper could have saved that.
3rd goal he mad no attempt to save at all.

No point blaming DM or defence if your keeper was leaking goals like that.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:27 PM   #2203
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Newcastle vs Citeh match will be interesting for us.
Newcastle win means jeorpady to our CL place.
Citeh win means most likely they will win the BPL and lan lan we have to see the cb face of Na$ri celebrating............
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:29 PM   #2204
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Newcastle vs Citeh match will be interesting for us.
Newcastle win means jeorpady to our CL place.
Citeh win means most likely they will win the BPL and lan lan we have to see the cb face of Na$ri celebrating............
best draw. win win for us.
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