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Toby88 · 29-09-2009, 12:19 PM

wow. johnny. promoting 310! steady la! didnt c this thread till now. oh yeah, how come your stuff is now at the back shelf, no longer at the glass top?

stacipher · 29-09-2009, 09:29 PM

You have a shop in heeren is it?

scasi · 30-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Hi Toby, got a lot of theft lately, so move to back,

Shop own by my leather guru, i learn from him.

scasi · 30-09-2009, 01:46 PM

rage05 · 30-09-2009, 02:06 PM

scasi wrote:

I believe for a good leather product, itself must be in the following

1. Good Cut
2. Hand stitch
3. Using best portion of the leather

Good cut, a lot of major brands, after they goes into mass production, uses machine to do the cutting, well in business sense yes it is necessary, but if the leather artisan can use hand cut and achieve machine quality, that is superb quality

hand stitch, if you uses leather sewing machine, you will see that both side of the stitches is not the same, where's only when you use hand stitching, the effect is similar. This is due to the machine limitation.

Best Quality of leather. In a cowhide, the best part is the lower back portion, those branded products we see are using emboss leather, which is very costly. So a good laether artisan normally can sacrifce and entire piece of leather just to cut out the lower back portion (Of course they do not throw the rest away....)

Some leather if you take good care, it will age well in process and provide a good shine.

For that 2 link i provide, it does not compare with the major brands. It a style of its own, and in JP, there are quite a few of them...

Well, if machines cut is good and constant, can i say that hand cut is not an advantage comparing with machine cut?

I am just curious

blackvice · 30-09-2009, 02:42 PM

rage05 wrote:

Well, if machines cut is good and constant, can i say that hand cut is not an advantage comparing with machine cut?

I am just curious

hmm imho , in this term there should not be advantage or not comparison ...if the hand cut of the artisan is same as machine cut considering the output ...it certainly reflects a certain skill level of the artisan which is why justified this quality and cost of product .

scasi · 30-09-2009, 11:51 PM

rage05 wrote:

Well, if machines cut is good and constant, can i say that hand cut is not an advantage comparing with machine cut?

I am just curious

Same like buying a ready made suit or shirt compare going to a tailor.

The same suit probably have about couple of hundreds similar in the street people are wearing, but those that is tailor, is definitely 1 of it kind

Machine cut 100% accurate. But when is handmade, it carries a premium.

Same like those exotic cars, each vehicle are signed by a single engineer that assemble them, and which is why cost higher because of the man hour taken.