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Old 02-03-2017, 12:37 PM   #1
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Exclamation AMD Ryzen Preview - HEDT Type R... For The Rest Of Us?





Confessional
This write-up is admittedly a really rushed job, the CPU sample was late, the mobo sample was even later... but more importantly, almost everything is now here and what a revelation Ryzen is!

Updates should come along as other test components arrive... video card and thus gaming benches are yet to be finalised, soon hopefully.


PC World photo coverage of the official Ryzen launch Feb 22, 2017, AMD CEO Lisa Su... the face of exceeding joy and accomplishment.






You can also watch the official AMD video if you can have the time and patience.







To be continued...

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Old 02-03-2017, 12:41 PM   #2
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AMD Type R... Ryzen!
All hail AMD... think they have really done it this time.

After years of selling budget middling CPUs, AMD have now gone straight for the throat firmly targeting the performance desktop market, just wow!

For those unfamiliar with the Battle Royale of AMD vs Intel, many would think the world of Intel and dismiss AMD as a poor 2nd choice or a has been. For the past decade and more, Intel has beaten AMD decisively at desktop CPUs so much so that AMD is nearly forgotten for many.

Now finally, a brand new AMD 8 cores 16 threads HEDT* CPU for way less... AMD have gone high end performance with low end pricing - AMD Ryzen is here. (* HEDT definition)

Everything is so hush hush and secretive that sample AMD Ryzen was delivered to me in a little non-descript green box.

And the really beautiful sample Asus mobo also came without any serial markings, i/o plate or most accessories along with dire warnings about NDAs and VX baby oils, gulp!




Do note that this sample chip is an earlier Engineering Sample stepping 1 which has been superseded by newer improved steppings and is thus not identical to the retail chip. This hurried preview is definitely not definitive, serving more as an introduction to Ryzen.

And after tiresome years of being served non-metal thermal interface material beneath the IHS by Intel.. see what TIM is given to Ryzen as demonstrated by der8auer. At the prices charged, did it beat around the bush and go cheap like the competition? Not!






* Type R cos it is powerful, fast and just as important, affordable ie. definitely not exorbitantly priced like you know who...



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Simi type-r? Got evo or wrx bo? Lol...
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Black cat or white cat also can, as long as it catches the mouse says Chairman Deng. All good as long as one doesn't keep feeding those fat cats in Intel.



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Crucial MX300 SSD | WD Black HDD | Antec Kuhler 920 | Corsair HX850 | Win 10 x64 Anniversary

Open air caseless, SG ambient 27C

PS: Present GPU installed is just a place holder, one tired old Radeon HD6670 waiting to be swapped out for something more modern. Ryzen 7 chips do not have any iGPU.



Notes

  • Time constraints meant running the ES Ryzen at stock clocks - it idles at 1.3GHz (0.4V) and boosts to 3.9GHz (1.55V, wah!) due to XFR (Extended Frequency Range) working well on the Asus.
  • Time constraints also meant non optimized voltages applied and inadequate breaking in of thermal grease consequently affecting temperatures reported
  • XFR boosted voltage of 1.55V can be reduced using a negative offset.
  • Presently only Asus models accommodates your current AM3 coolers since Asus specifically provides AM3 plus AM4 mounting holes.
  • DDR4-2933 C16 seems to run stable enough in benching but cold starts may happen, needs more tweaking... DDR4-2666 C14 is more forgiving and seems just as fast at lower voltages. Asus advises using 2 DIMMs and slots A2/B2 for higher RAM clocks.
  • Watt meter says 30W at idle, 75W running Fritz Chess Benchmark.
  • Photos and more sharing of the Asus Crosshair VI used are scheduled to come later. Oh yeah, the mobo is great to tinker with too!

Asus proposes this guide to choosing a Ryzen motherboard
Which motherboard for Ryzen?



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Old 03-03-2017, 02:02 AM   #5
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Note: Added just a couple of sample runs at DDR4-2666 to see the significance, if any.


CPU-Z

Straightaway, we see the problem but it is definitely not AMD's though. This shouldn't be happening, at stock this 8 core budget chip is already killing the competition's 10 core HEDT prized cow.

DDR4-2933



DDR4-2666




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Note: Added just a couple of sample runs at DDR4-2666 to see the significance, if any.


CPU-Z

Straightaway, we see the problem but it is definitely not AMD's though. This shouldn't be happening, at stock this 8 core budget chip is already killing the competition's 10 core HEDT prized cow.

DDR4-2933



DDR4-2666




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6950x shld have 20 thread?
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Photos of the Crosshair VI coming later.

A mere 2-3 days test time allocation means top priority goes to installing a fresh OS and getting some results out first. Crazy test timeline this round...


6950x shld have 20 thread?
Yes, 10C/20T as reflected in the CPU-Z screenshots shown.

Still benched significantly lower in CPU-Z than Ryzen 8C/16T.
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Cinebench R15
Again, it is consistently fast... for both single and multicore crunching. Wow!


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My stronk CPU look sad when the 6950x came out now it looks even worse

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Any temperatures bro? Or the temperature sensor reading not fixed yet?
Let me repost the last screenshot in full res, click to zoom in.



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Passmark Bench
Not bad at all, CPUMark actually beats 99% of PCs out there with its score, what's there not to like?





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ps, interrupt your thread. need to clarify/confirm 1 point

Presently only Asus models accommodates your current AM3 coolers since Asus specifically provides AM3 plus AM4 mounting holes.
If you can confirm that Asus PRIME X370-PRO has AM3 mounting holes. Thanks!

update, the above board has no AM3 mounting holes

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Old 05-03-2017, 12:38 AM   #15
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Get the Crosshair VI if you die die want AM3 mounting holes, it definitely has both AM3 and AM4.


Geekbench 4 CPU Bench
Great bang per buck results vs i7-6900K?




SuperPi 1M
The age old AMD bugbear abolished? Sure, looks like it.




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