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Old 25-09-2017, 09:12 PM   #766
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Dont go for brand. Go for ryzen friendly sticks, those with samaung b die. Look for Vengeance rgb 3466.
I rather go for something i can enjoy visually than going for the almost intangible performance gain...
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Old 26-09-2017, 09:00 AM   #767
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I rather go for something i can enjoy visually than going for the almost intangible performance gain...
I admit gskill rgb looks better with d light but Vengeance rgb is not bad either. Its a matter of whether u will compromise abit for d performance (i would say by some distance for scenario hynix afr vs samsung b die) instead of goin all out for d look. Vengeance rgb is more affordable too.
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Old 26-09-2017, 10:17 AM   #768
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Got my 1600 stable at 3.80GHz@1.4V (cannot rise any higher liao cuz exceed my 70 degree limit liao ) stress load cap @ 73 degree but gaming wise cap around 60s

also switch from (2800 CL14-14-14-25-1T) to (2933 CL14-14-14-34-1T)

Still refuse to load 3200 even on CL16-16-16-36-1T o well
2933 at those timings should already be giving you solid performance. Anyway, if you still wish to experiment with 3200, run at 2T with Geardown disabled, and/or loosen tRCD and tRP to 18 cycles.
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Old 26-09-2017, 12:13 PM   #769
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2933 at those timings should already be giving you solid performance. Anyway, if you still wish to experiment with 3200, run at 2T with Geardown disabled, and/or loosen tRCD and tRP to 18 cycles.
16-18-18-18-36 also no go mine is an hynix ram so i am content with my current timing
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Old 26-09-2017, 01:01 PM   #770
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16-18-18-18-36 also no go mine is an hynix ram so i am content with my current timing
Thing is asus b350 strix was not so hynix friendly in my opinion. Not sure with d latest bios (agesa 1006a/1006b) but back then 1006 doesnt give much head room to my afr sticks. Hemce i jumped to another brand n never look back.

But like others pointed out its d real world performance that matters. if 2933 can go 14 14 14 1t all d way then just stick to it. Not every board can do 14 17 17 1t @ 3200 with hynix sticks.
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Old 26-09-2017, 01:29 PM   #771
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Thing is asus b350 strix was not so hynix friendly in my opinion. Not sure with d latest bios (agesa 1006a/1006b) but back then 1006 doesnt give much head room to my afr sticks. Hemce i jumped to another brand n never look back.

But like others pointed out its d real world performance that matters. if 2933 can go 14 14 14 1t all d way then just stick to it. Not every board can do 14 17 17 1t @ 3200 with hynix sticks.
If ppl just turn off the fps counter no one will really notice the difference ;p
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Old 26-09-2017, 01:29 PM   #772
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Hi all,

Thinking of getting a R5 1400 due to its cheaper price among the R5 family. Seen a few bundles with MB for below SGD 400 and am spoilt for choice so would like some recommendations..This PC would be mainly for home use.
Would be playing games such as LoL, CSGO, DOTA2. Doing some programming also.
Leaning towards the Asus b350m-A at the moment

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msi b350m mortar

Looking to pair tgt with a 1050ti/8gb RAM/1tb HDD

Many thanks!!!!

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Old 26-09-2017, 01:33 PM   #773
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Asus B350 Plus for ATX
Asrock AB350M Pro4 or MSI B350 Mortar/Bazooka for MATX.

Really cannot squeeze that $100 for 6 core R5 1600? Also, if you have external HDD, consider changing the 1TB internal HDD to SSD.

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Old 26-09-2017, 02:03 PM   #774
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[QUOTE=singupingu;110482918]Asus B350 Plus for ATX
Asrock AB350M Pro4 or MSI B350 Mortar/Bazooka for MATX.

Really cannot squeeze that $100 for 6 core R5 1600? Also, if you have external HDD, consider changing the 1TB internal HDD to SSD.


I could top up for the 1600 but am skeptical if I might "overkill" especially for what I would be using this PC for..
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Old 26-09-2017, 08:24 PM   #775
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[QUOTE=dharennath;110483424]
Asus B350 Plus for ATX
Asrock AB350M Pro4 or MSI B350 Mortar/Bazooka for MATX.

Really cannot squeeze that $100 for 6 core R5 1600? Also, if you have external HDD, consider changing the 1TB internal HDD to SSD.


I could top up for the 1600 but am skeptical if I might "overkill" especially for what I would be using this PC for..
1600 is for multi-task+gaming+streaming at the same time. if you are not doing these settle for 1400 as 1500x are not worth it.

for me 1050ti not worth it sia, rather you try and get 1060 3gb ver
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Old 26-09-2017, 10:20 PM   #776
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What is overkill when Intel is going 6 cores i5 and i7 for their upcoming Coffee Lake? You're future-proofing the specs, or so they say.
If your programming stuff can leverage multi-core performance, it's worth it. There's reason why 1600 is the most value for money buy out there.

Nonetheless, can't force you either. If you think it's pointless, 1400 is the next good buy.

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Old 27-09-2017, 08:15 AM   #777
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I feel R5 1400 is still a good CPU. For the same amount of money, you can only get an i5 that is 4c/4t and no chance to OC. The socket for Intel is also a dead end, which means you must change mobo in order to upgrade in the near future. All AMD chips allow overclocking, so you can still squeeze some performance out.
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Old 27-09-2017, 09:08 AM   #778
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I feel R5 1400 is still a good CPU. For the same amount of money, you can only get an i5 that is 4c/4t and no chance to OC. The socket for Intel is also a dead end, which means you must change mobo in order to upgrade in the near future. All AMD chips allow overclocking, so you can still squeeze some performance out.
You might want to compare against intel's kopi i3 since it will be 4c/4t as well
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Old 27-09-2017, 09:19 AM   #779
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We are now on a paradigm shift where more and more applications will take advantages of multiple cores and threads. Like today's news, firefox quantum.

https://www.techspot.com/news/71150-...x-quantum.html

I predict that 6 cores will be the new 4 cores.
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Old 27-09-2017, 09:31 AM   #780
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You might want to compare against intel's kopi i3 since it will be 4c/4t as well
You don't have to wait till Coffee Lake. The current Kaby Lake i5 should give you a good idea how it performs against the Ryzen 5 chip. However, going Coffee Lake means you need to get a new Z370 motherboard, which will not be cheap since it is not the Budget chipset.
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