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Old 13-09-2017, 02:45 AM   #1
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What's BEST for your SSD & HDD ?

I know now SSDs basically do not need defragging anymore.

But I still use the old PerfectDisk 11 to defrag all my mechanical HDDs, which sees significant improvements after defrag.

However, latest versions of Diskeeper and PerfectDisk boast improvements to defrag SSDs as well.

What are your opinions?
PerfectDisk used to rule the defragging market, but now ?
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Old 13-09-2017, 06:56 AM   #2
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it probably runs trim which you can do using windows defrag utility > optimize
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Old 13-09-2017, 07:47 AM   #3
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I know now SSDs basically do not need defragging anymore.

But I still use the old PerfectDisk 11 to defrag all my mechanical HDDs, which sees significant improvements after defrag.

However, latest versions of Diskeeper and PerfectDisk boast improvements to defrag SSDs as well.

What are your opinions?
PerfectDisk used to rule the defragging market, but now ?
Are you using mechanical drives for the OS and softwares? Typically, if you are not using mechanical drives for the OS, I don't see much point defragging it.
There is nothing much for you to maintain on SSDs since they should run TRIM on their own and with a significantly low seek time as compare to a mechanical drive, you will not experience any significant slowdowns after years of usage. Defragging does not work with SSDs because unlike mechanical drive that writes on any immediate empty space, data written to SSD gets allocated by the SSD controller and could be anywhere on the drive (my understanding is quite shallow here). Defragging your SSD will also kill it faster with the unnecessary writes.

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I though must disable optimize for ssd in os property. ?
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Old 13-09-2017, 10:29 AM   #5
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I know now SSDs basically do not need defragging anymore.

But I still use the old PerfectDisk 11 to defrag all my mechanical HDDs, which sees significant improvements after defrag.

However, latest versions of Diskeeper and PerfectDisk boast improvements to defrag SSDs as well.

What are your opinions?
PerfectDisk used to rule the defragging market, but now ?
You will end up FRAGGING your SSD if you defrag it.

As mentioned by someone else earlier. If OS is in SSD, you should not need to defrag it.
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Defrag in SSD achieves nothing. TRIM achieves the equivalent outcome but works differently.
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I though must disable optimize for ssd in os property. ?
Optimize for SSD is TRIM not defrag. It's useful to optimize once every few months to maintain performance.
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Old 14-09-2017, 03:23 PM   #8
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You will end up FRAGGING your SSD if you defrag it.

As mentioned by someone else earlier. If OS is in SSD, you should not need to defrag it.
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Old 14-09-2017, 03:40 PM   #9
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Are you using mechanical drives for the OS and softwares? Typically, if you are not using mechanical drives for the OS, I don't see much point defragging it.
There is nothing much for you to maintain on SSDs since they should run TRIM on their own and with a significantly low seek time as compare to a mechanical drive, you will not experience any significant slowdowns after years of usage. Defragging does not work with SSDs because unlike mechanical drive that writes on any immediate empty space, data written to SSD gets allocated by the SSD controller and could be anywhere on the drive (my understanding is quite shallow here). Defragging your SSD will also kill it faster with the unnecessary writes.
Yes, I only defrag mechanical drives with OS.

The following are mechanical drives:
1) Self D.I.Y. Gaming PC - i7-3770k, VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB 10kRPM SATA HDD, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
2) Self D.I.Y. Kids' PC - Intel Core2Duo E8400, Western Digital VelociRaptor(HLFS) 150GB 10kRPM SATA HDD 16MB, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
3) Notebook - Acer 1820PTZ Tablet(touchscreen): Intel® Pentium® processor SU4100, 500 GB HDD, Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
4) Notebook - Dell Vostro 3750, Intel Core i5-2410M, 500GB 7200rpm SATAII hard-disk, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

The following is SSD with OS:
1) Notebook - Dell Latitude E5450, Intel® Core™ i5-5300U, 16GB DDR3L rams, Samsung PM871 SSD 256GB, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

The following is Hybrid SSHD:
1) Notebook - Dell Inspiron 14 7447, Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ, 8GB DDR3L rams, Seagate 1TB 5400rpm Hybrid SSHD 2.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive 8GB SSD, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

I believe for Hybrid SSHD, I need to defrag right?
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