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Old 19-11-2003, 06:48 PM   #61
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Originally posted by zippo1979


so the procedure is:

1. connect only SATA hdd, NO optical NO PATA... then install Win XP..

2. install XP liao.. then connect Optical and PATA..

but u never answer my question on how to differentiate between the PATAs if they are similar... how to see under Windows which one is the master, which is the slave?
No optical?
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Old 19-11-2003, 06:49 PM   #62
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No optical?
provided your winXP installation is on your hdd.. lol. buey sai lerrr must have one optical to boot from
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Old 19-11-2003, 06:53 PM   #63
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Originally posted by tommyx
good job floppy ( although i hate to praise u :laugh: )

anyway any diff in performance for true sata and 'fake' sata hdd ??
Let me quote this from storagereview whom I think has answered this question in the best way.

Originally written by Storage Review
Though converters usually exact a performance penalty, high-level performance remains the ultimate arbiter. All other things being equal, if a bridged design outperforms another that uses a native setup, it should be the obvious choice- as always, it's bottom-line rather than module-level performance that matters.
This thread is very infomative. Good job floppy.
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Old 19-11-2003, 06:57 PM   #64
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Assuming I start from ground zero, wanna create a Raid 0 (striping) on 2 SATA...

1) Create Raid0 Array on booting first
2) Fdisk and format
3) Set CDROM bootable and insert Winxp and reboot.
4) On Bootup, select 3rd party RAID drivers [(if not onboard) , (if onboard, see if installation can detect?)]
5) Install Winxp, what have u etc etc
6) Plug in your IDE Raid, IDE drives, SCSI drives, Optical drives, USB drives, Parallel port drives and whatever left drives...

Any steps wrong or missing?
Please advise.
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Old 19-11-2003, 07:00 PM   #65
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Originally posted by Tboz
This thread is very infomative. Good job floppy.
yep. i read there before. but as far as we all know no IDE or sata hard drive can saturate ATA100 yet, let alone ATA133/150.
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Old 19-11-2003, 07:01 PM   #66
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Originally posted by kelvin25
Assuming I start from ground zero, wanna create a Raid 0 (striping) on 2 SATA...

1) Create Raid0 Array on booting first
2) Fdisk and format
3) Set CDROM bootable and insert Winxp and reboot.
4) On Bootup, select 3rd party RAID drivers [(if not onboard) , (if onboard, see if installation can detect?)]
5) Install Winxp, what have u etc etc
6) Plug in your IDE Raid, IDE drives, SCSI drives, Optical drives, USB drives, Parallel port drives and whatever left drives...

Any steps wrong or missing?
Please advise.
if you raid, almost confirm must F6. scsi no ned plug out. only take out the PATA hard drives in your primary and secondary ide channels. or alternatively you can just disable the respective primary/secondary ide channels.
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WinXP performance should improve on Raid 0 drives right?
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Old 19-11-2003, 07:43 PM   #68
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Originally posted by kelvin25
WinXP performance should improve on Raid 0 drives right?
striping allows you to read and write to 2 drives at a time, of course it'll be faster
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Old 19-11-2003, 11:52 PM   #69
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Originally posted by floppy
striping allows you to read and write to 2 drives at a time, of course it'll be faster
though higher risk of losing all your data
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Old 19-11-2003, 11:54 PM   #70
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Originally posted by serverxeon
MSI 865 PE FIS2R Raid 0 and 1. Check it out here.
This RAID 1 provided by Promise chipset.....which sits on the PCI bus = higher cpu utilisation and slightly slower than if SATA provided by southbridge (ICH5R)
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Originally posted by Mohawks

This RAID 1 provided by Promise chipset.....which sits on the PCI bus = higher cpu utilisation and slightly slower than if SATA provided by southbridge (ICH5R)
only abit and the intel 875PW1E has Raid 1 integrated in the ICH5R
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Old 20-11-2003, 08:46 AM   #72
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Didn't test win98se, fdisk and format, huh?
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Originally posted by LxIxVxE
Didn't test win98se, fdisk and format, huh?
not yet. will do when i have time.
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Old 20-11-2003, 02:18 PM   #74
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Originally posted by floppy


striping allows you to read and write to 2 drives at a time, of course it'll be faster
Yah man... that's like dual channel harddisk!!

Btw... must say this is a great thread... i've managed to get my new system up and running with some trial & error... and realised that what u posted is all my findings as well!! *thumbs up*...

But sad things is i only know about this threads after i bought... so ended up with SATA Maxtor 120GB instead... = (
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Old 20-11-2003, 02:28 PM   #75
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Btw... i'm using an AMD XP 2500+ with Abit NF7-S Dual Channel with 2 x 256MB DDR400 ram.... which suppose to run at 800Mhz... which I don't see this number anywhere....

So does anyone overclock their AMD chip here? could u feedback the results??
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