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Old 01-06-2016, 01:34 PM   #1
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Hi all,

just wanted to share some information and details about what I've learnt about mech kb.

this is something that I think everyone should at least give a try. truly life changing.

I almost don't understand how I lived thru all those years using the membrane kb, but to be honest, I only knew of expensive mech kb (-+$200), and wasn't until recently that I found out they are getting rather accessible ($60 upwards).

in this short time (3 mths), I've managed to try and used a few different branded kb and switch combo. and starting to understand what people mean when they say this switch is "mushy", "too light", and even "too hard".

I have also found out there are almost unlimited version of everything and the sky is truly the limit.

I would like to recommend that everyone maybe give one a try, at least. I don't work for any shops or stores that sell these items, but I feel is, if this is one of the 3 items (mouse and hp being the other 2) that I have to use daily to complete tasks, be it work or play, I think it is worth spending a little more on them to make the experience better/ more shiok.

my knowledge of mech kb are still somewhat limited compared to the pros here, as I only have 2 mech kb.


here are some information I have to share.


I am currently using the Team Wolf Zhuque ten key less keyboard, with tai hao doubleshot abs keycaps, with gateron brown switches. feels really snappy, and I like the feedback of the tactile bump minus the click. it comes with full led though, not rgb or single color, every row is a different color. I use this kb in the office so I turned off the lights, which makes this a very subtle kb, considering the combination. I also used rubber o rings for my keycaps to keep the slightly quieter. the kb feels sturdy, it is usb wired. and has a small footprint on my work desk.

this keyboard came stock with othemu brown switches, which in comparison, felt very mushy. slow to respond, and almost feels sticky. and it came with abs translucent keycaps, for the lights to shine thru. this kb some with hotswappable switches, so I managed to purchase some gateron to try on them. I might consider getting other switches and using this as a test bench of sorts.

I also have a varmillo va87m with brown cherry switches. they feel fast and smoother then the gateron browns, and they also feel sturdier, not that the team wolf kb is fragile by any means, but the va87m just feels more solid, and better build.

for your information, I purchase both my kb (team wolf zhuque, varmillo va87m) from taobao, direct.

I will update this with pictures of what I have and how it looks. but this is roughly what I have for now.

to anyone out there, especially the pros, please share and contribute to this thread.

hope I am contributing to the forum which has provided me with help and information about a lot of stuff. my small way of giving back.


Team Wolf Zhuque

IMG_0462 by chewyicecube, on Flickr

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link for the varmilo

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id...82&toSite=main

link for the team wolf zhuque

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id...=3170743802485
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:34 PM   #2
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Varmillo Va87M

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keycap profile reference.

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Old 01-06-2016, 01:59 PM   #3
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People can say what they want about the superiority of a mechanical keyboard over the cheap typical membrane and rubber dome keyboards as long as they don't make claims about them being more reliable and longer lasting.

My Ducky keyboard has already had one faulty switch after about a year of use. This never happened on any of my rubber domes or membranes.
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Old 01-06-2016, 02:05 PM   #4
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Currently using a VA87M with ergo clears, unsoldered and swapped out the springs myself. I have 90 first generation 65g Zelios sitting in the storage for my next build, a Korean custom from winkeylesskr. Zelios are switches designed by the geekhack community, basically the best of both worlds from Cherry and Gateron, using Cherry mx clear stem designs (better tactile feedback), and Gateron housings (less wobbliness).

Glad to see others appreciating mechanical keyboards.

Typed this on my Pok3r with MX browns at work.

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Old 01-06-2016, 02:18 PM   #5
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but the amount you spent to upgrade makes it not worth it, I read quite a few reviews saying the stock switches are no good.

*currently using poker 2 with dolch pac keycaps, purely for aesthetics.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:35 PM   #6
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any budget TKL mechanical key board you guys would recommend for around $100-$150 range?

don't need any backlit lighting
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any budget TKL mechanical key board you guys would recommend for around $100-$150 range?

don't need any backlit lighting
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:50 PM   #8
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I put o-rings over my cherry brown keys .... overall the keypress I don't feel any improvement or advantage over my $10 cheapo keyboard that I used for 7 years straight

but can feel the quality build of the keyboard , very solid no flex , heavyweight doesn't push around on the desk
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I put o-rings over my cherry brown keys .... overall the keypress I don't feel any improvement or advantage over my $10 cheapo keyboard that I used for 7 years straight

but can feel the quality build of the keyboard , very solid no flex , heavyweight doesn't push around on the desk
I put O-rings on my Pok3r at work to dampen the sound, it worked at first, but now as the O-rings get seasoned, I feel like it doesn't help much anymore.

Generally I prefer to use my keyboard without O-rings, so there's more of a "clack", did you add O-rings so you could get a more mushy feel?
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Any good recommendation for Mechanical Keyboard (Backlit, No need to be RGB) ?
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Any good recommendation for Mechanical Keyboard (Backlit, No need to be RGB) ?
Any preference as to whether it should be TKL (no numpad), full size, colour of leds etc.?
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I put O-rings on my Pok3r at work to dampen the sound, it worked at first, but now as the O-rings get seasoned, I feel like it doesn't help much anymore.

Generally I prefer to use my keyboard without O-rings, so there's more of a "clack", did you add O-rings so you could get a more mushy feel?
for sound reason , late night very audible
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but the amount you spent to upgrade makes it not worth it, I read quite a few reviews saying the stock switches are no good.

*currently using poker 2 with dolch pac keycaps, purely for aesthetics.
stock switches are not fantastic, but a good place to start. and i am kindda using this kb as a "test bench", for new switches, or keycaps, and what not, as this is hotswappable, which is imo, totally perfect for this reason.

and they also do sell the kb bare, like without switches or keycaps, albeit, not too much cheaper.
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I put O-rings on my Pok3r at work to dampen the sound, it worked at first, but now as the O-rings get seasoned, I feel like it doesn't help much anymore.

Generally I prefer to use my keyboard without O-rings, so there's more of a "clack", did you add O-rings so you could get a more mushy feel?
i added o rings to try, as i've never had them with before, (paid $3 for 100pcs of black rubber o rings). so i thought why not. i won't say i love it or hate it, but i do like how it is not as audible.
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Recommendations for 60-100 range? U said 60 upwards

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