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Old 11-05-2005, 11:05 AM   #61
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btw do you want to do the power cable for me?? still thinking about it as the hissing still there.. i went to the creativex and that guy told me its because i turn my pc volume to full tts why i get the hissing sound.. at first i believe and tried.. but then even when my pc is off .. there is still that sound..
No problem BUT I canít guarantee it will resolve your hissing problem.

What a shielded power cord will do is to minimised noise interference from external source like your AC adaptor & etc. However if the problem starts from the upper chain like your power-strip, you have not address the root of your problem.

Try this. Unplug your interconnect from the PC to your sub & try again. This will eliminate the possibility of a ground loop from your PC side. If it still hiss, use a long extension cord & try other 3 pin wall sockets. If the hiss is still there, the problem most probably your powercord.

Not that I don't want to earn your $$$ but I also want a satisfied customer.

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Old 11-05-2005, 11:36 AM   #62
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For those who are thinking of changing their speaker cables and want it cheap, here is a tip for cheap and good cables: Remember our cat 5e cables? They are really cheap.

http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/triple_t_e.html
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Old 11-05-2005, 11:44 AM   #63
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What you said is true too because e impact of noise will be higher. But other than that, the longer speaker cable has far more problems on top of this. Anyway, there are many school of thoughts involved. But at the end of the day remember there is no pointing spending too much on MM speakers because they are not meant for serious listening.

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Actually, speaker cable length doesn't really matter unless you are talking about very long lengths. I was talking about lengths like 2-5m of speaker cables. Are you referring to cables of 20-30m long?
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Old 11-05-2005, 11:52 AM   #64
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OMG, your cables & plugs are badly oxidised. Plus algae are growing too.. This is bad man..

I will need to check whether the speaker cable is damaged. If those green **** grows inside the cable. Its time to say bye bye to it.

For a start you might like to clean up all your binding post with contact cleaner.

I will recommend re-terminating the speaker cable with solder type banana plugs.

If u have the budget I will recommend new speaker cable using Canare 4S11 biwire cable with special quad star geometry. $5/m. Used by many 3rd party branded cable out there.

The interconnect looks pretty ok. Just some polishing will do. But if u want to try some inexpensive model. Can try out e Belden 89259 terminated with Canare F10. Material cost start at $42 for 1m pair.

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yo bro... can gimme a quote for the re-termination of my speaker cables? assuming no need to replace them... what solder-type banana plugs is good and would not oxidise one? i can meet u to pass u the cables
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:01 PM   #65
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If you are too loaded.. can get the super branded one like those rhodium Cardas plug. But since its a 4s11, I would recommend affordable gold plated plug. I'm using some I got from Farnell & it has not oxidised even after 3 years.

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I go for performance/price ratio. Are the bananas and spades from Farnell solderable ones?

I have seen your work on the DIY powerstrip,very nicely done.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:23 PM   #66
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Actually, speaker cable length doesn't really matter unless you are talking about very long lengths. I was talking about lengths like 2-5m of speaker cables. Are you referring to cables of 20-30m long?
I'm speaking in general.

yo bro... can gimme a quote for the re-termination of my speaker cables? assuming no need to replace them... what solder-type banana plugs is good and would not oxidise one? i can meet u to pass u the cables
For e time being I will charge $10 flat rate for service charge for 2 piece or less. The more cables, better economic of scale, less transport & etc so will be cheaper.

Real gold plated one will do. Would recommend those from Farnell. Cost around $3 or less per piece if I remember correctly.

I go for performance/price ratio. Are the bananas and spades from Farnell solderable ones?

I have seen your work on the DIY powerstrip,very nicely done.
Farnell got both type. If the wire is thick then use crimp type, else I recommend solder, more durable contact & helps to prevent e copper from oxidising. Thanks for your compliment.

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Old 11-05-2005, 01:03 PM   #67
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ok bro.. me onz... so mine will be 2 speaker cables and 8 banana plugs... so my cost will be 30+? can help me get contact cleaner as well?
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:08 PM   #68
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ok bro.. me onz... so mine will be 2 speaker cables and 8 banana plugs... so my cost will be 30+? can help me get contact cleaner as well?
I will PM you with the exact quote once I confirm the price of the banana plugs. BTW, you will need 12. I don't recommend bear wire at the amp side. Because its going to toast your amp if the wire become lose & short circuit. But the choice is yours. Let me know again.

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Old 11-05-2005, 01:10 PM   #69
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I will PM you with the exact quote once I confirm the price of the banana plugs. BTW, you will need 12. I don't recommend bear wire at the amp side. Because its going to toast your amp if the wire become lose & short circuit. But the choice is yours. Let me know again.

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oh yah.. forgot abt the other side.. only counting the speaker side . will wait for ur pm
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No problem BUT I canít guarantee it will resolve your hissing problem.

What a shielded power cord will do is to minimised noise interference from external source like your AC adaptor & etc. However if the problem starts from the upper chain like your power-strip, you have not address the root of your problem.

Try this. Unplug your interconnect from the PC to your sub & try again. This will eliminate the possibility of a ground loop from your PC side. If it still hiss, use a long extension cord & try other 3 pin wall sockets. If the hiss is still there, the problem most probably your powercord.

Not that I don't want to earn your $$$ but I also want a satisfied customer.

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if i change the interconnect cables.. will it help?? if yes what brand should i buy??
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:34 PM   #71
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Correct me if i'm wrong.. but its due to the quality of components used in the MW550 itself that causes the hiss.
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:05 PM   #72
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if i change the interconnect cables.. will it help?? if yes what brand should i buy??
What you need to do now is to troubleshoot to isolate the root of e problem before u consider the remedy. U can overhaul all the cables but it does not address the issue if they are not the culprit. Plus very soft hissing is normal for all speakers. But if you can hear it 1 to 2m away then I think something is wrong.

Correct me if i'm wrong.. but its due to the quality of components used in the MW550 itself that causes the hiss.
Hissing is a complicated problem. There are many reasons why speaker hiss. Noisy power supply, ground loops, interference, loose or corroded contacts are just some of the possibilities.

Recently my center hiss too but it goes away after I switch my speaker off.

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Old 11-05-2005, 03:54 PM   #73
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hmm ..let me clarify.. my spearkers dun hiss when i off.. i have already rearranged my speakers.. they are no longer on my table.. it is 2 m away from me.. still can hear the hiss when mw control is at three leds on..
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:00 PM   #74
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my mw do hiss when i listen closely...
when 1-2m away cant hear it....
with 3leds on too
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:44 PM   #75
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hmm ..let me clarify.. my spearkers dun hiss when i off.. i have already rearranged my speakers.. they are no longer on my table.. it is 2 m away from me.. still can hear the hiss when mw control is at three leds on..
U mean off your PC?

That is not right for sure.

Based on your description, sounds like the hissing originate from your source.

Try this.. disconnect the stereo pin from the PC & connect to your walkman. discman, MP3 & etc etc. Does it hiss?

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