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Old 25-08-2017, 11:35 AM   #16
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There are many ways to counter insomnia. If you decide to take the antidepressants, do it very carefully. I would suggest you do it the natural way rather than taking these drugs which may be long term and has many side effects.

One of my family members was very desperate when he could not sleep for weeks. He then took the psychiatrists advice and tried many type of drugs antidepressants, mood disorder, sleeping pills, tranquilizers and even psychotic ones. His condition worsened from simply insomnia to "depression"and was unable to work/socialise for about 3 years. Some even made him feel suicidal. These drugs merely sedate him and he was "sleeping" for about 15 hours a day but still did not feel alright as these are not natural sleep after all.

At the end of 2 years, he gave up on the drs' advice and sought advice from this forum http://survivingantidepressants.org/ and after a year of closely following up with the forum moderators, he is now almost back to his normal form. He is also back to work. This forum saved his life!

Melatonin at 3mg is actually quite a high dose as our body produces much less than this amount. Try with a smaller dose eg 0.5mg, monitor and slowly increase after every 3-5 days. Besides this, you also need to be very disciplined, quit all coffee/caffeine related produce/drinks, go outdoor exercise. For me, I personally find drinking Chamomile tea in the evening helps me to sleep better.

There are a lot of helpful information here, so do check it up: http://survivingantidepressants.org/

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Old 31-08-2017, 08:33 PM   #17
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:50 AM   #18
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Hi,

There are many ways to counter insomnia. If you decide to take the antidepressants, do it very carefully. I would suggest you do it the natural way rather than taking these drugs which may be long term and has many side effects.

One of my family members was very desperate when he could not sleep for weeks. He then took the psychiatrists advice and tried many type of drugs antidepressants, mood disorder, sleeping pills, tranquilizers and even psychotic ones. His condition worsened from simply insomnia to "depression"and was unable to work/socialise for about 3 years. Some even made him feel suicidal. These drugs merely sedate him and he was "sleeping" for about 15 hours a day but still did not feel alright as these are not natural sleep after all.

At the end of 2 years, he gave up on the drs' advice and sought advice from this forum http://survivingantidepressants.org/ and after a year of closely following up with the forum moderators, he is now almost back to his normal form. He is also back to work. This forum saved his life!

Melatonin at 3mg is actually quite a high dose as our body produces much less than this amount. Try with a smaller dose eg 0.5mg, monitor and slowly increase after every 3-5 days. Besides this, you also need to be very disciplined, quit all coffee/caffeine related produce/drinks, go outdoor exercise. For me, I personally find drinking Chamomile tea in the evening helps me to sleep better.

There are a lot of helpful information here, so do check it up: http://survivingantidepressants.org/

i been taking melatonin for a couple of years, the daily dose is 10mg..
even that, I had difficulties in getting to sleep at times.

my mind is too active, can't put to rest
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:41 AM   #19
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:41 AM   #20
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I've been suffering from insomnia (now considered chronic insomnia) for almost a month already.. I usually get about 3-5 hours of sleep every 2-4 days..

while type this post, I've been awake for about 36 hours or so already..

I'm currently prescription with vortioxetine 15mg in the morning. 15mg mirtazapine at night.. but mirtazapine now only makes me hungry at night.. doesn't make me sleep.. so I've also currently prescribed with hydroxyzine 50mg, lorazepam 1mg and diazepam 10mg...

usually after taking the mirtazapine + hydroxyzine + diazepam I will unknowingly KO in around 1 hour. I mentioned unknowingly because there was once after I took those meds.. I went to toilet to pangsai.. and KO on the toilet bowl. when I woke up it was 3.5hours later.

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Old 06-09-2017, 08:45 AM   #21
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to add on.. other that prescription meds.. I am also taking vitamin D3, chelated magnesium, potassium citrate, taurine, l-arginine and a good quality 2:1 DHA EPA ratio fish oil daily.. no calcium supplement as I drink milk everyday

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Old 06-09-2017, 08:58 AM   #22
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Agree, this is a better and more holistic way to counter insomnia.

Melatonin taken at a high dose may not mean it will induce deeper sleep, try a lower dose at 1mg it may work better.

Medications have several side effects, so do your research carefully before you decide to take these.

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Old 08-09-2017, 12:28 PM   #23
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I suffer from Insonmia quite suddenly too last 2 year but ok now..my lifestyle or diet didnt change so i am stress out when suddenly cant sleep. Went TCM. Exercise? In fact i cut down exercise like sports and do low activities.. stay away fried food and eat light. Dinner kept to minimum. Do breathing exercise few mins before sleep..on 92.4fm...do stretching exercise..bit the fear of not able to sleep creeps in every night..lucky my office time allows me to take a nap else think i will suffer heart attack. Sometimes wake up after dooze off and get heart papitation..also i lower my aircon 1 degree colder..am still not completely cure but now i understand my body better..hard exercise strenous type...heavy dinner..and stress from work or family or worrying about something will get me into some insonmia..i still take 2 cup of kopiO daily one in morning and one by 4pm..any junk food i will take during lunch time..last time i also take muscle relaxing pills given by doctor..yes make me tired and sleep..but next day feel tired..not the same as natural sleep..

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Old 09-09-2017, 02:49 AM   #24
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Think I'm coming back insomnia club tonight again after 15 days doctor prescribed Melatonnin.

Slept less than half hour and wake up. Feeling dizzy but my mind control me not to sleep.

Not sure why I suffer again after 15 days, even more exercises daily.

Could be I ate fried food at afternoon???
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Old 09-09-2017, 02:52 AM   #25
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Agree, this is a better and more holistic way to counter insomnia.

Melatonin taken at a high dose may not mean it will induce deeper sleep, try a lower dose at 1mg it may work better.

Medications have several side effects, so do your research carefully before you decide to take these.

The doctor said Melatonin has no side effects, you sure the sentence is true?
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:43 AM   #26
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melatonin is more for travellers who experience jetlag often.. melatonin is produced by your body to regulate your body clock so it's just sold as a supplement and not considered a medicine.

it is available OTC without prescription. I used to buy them from iherb in 5mg strength but it's no use.

currently 50mg hydroxyzine + 10 - 15mg is the only combo that can knock me out.

previously on lorazepam but the sleep inducing feel is very short lasting.. even after my doctor raised the dosage from 0.5mg to 1mg.. as long as I manage to fight pass the short drowsy period, the effect will more or less disappear totally.

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Old 09-09-2017, 04:49 AM   #27
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Think I'm coming back insomnia club tonight again after 15 days doctor prescribed Melatonnin.

Slept less than half hour and wake up. Feeling dizzy but my mind control me not to sleep.

Not sure why I suffer again after 15 days, even more exercises daily.

Could be I ate fried food at afternoon???
try to consult your doctor if you are suitable to take hydroxyzine (atarax) instead. it is a type of antihistamine usually used for treatment of allergy.. but psychiatrist often prescribe this for relieve of anxiety and insonmia which initially worked quite well for me.. psychiatrist preferred prescribing this in place of benzodiazepines like lorazepam xanax or diazepam as it is not habit forming and addictive as benzos.

but sadly for me the hydroxyzine didn't help me for too long and I had to go the benzo route.

melatonin is totally useless from people who suffers from clinically diagnosed insonmia.

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Old 09-09-2017, 10:05 AM   #28
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The doctor said Melatonin has no side effects, you sure the sentence is true?
Did I say melatonin is a medicine?

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side...s-of-melatonin

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Old 10-09-2017, 02:54 AM   #29
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https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melatonin[/url][/QUOTE]



Really scary but what else can solve insomnia pain?
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:18 AM   #30
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I still can't sleep at night but often slept in morning or afternoon (may be 1-2 hrs respectively), but this is really affected my daily activities.

So if my current medicine melatonin and mirtazapine are no longer help, shd i go to lorazepam?

Now i really very stressful when the night is coming. Try to sleep but my brain not cooperate even taking medicine.

When is the best timing to take medicine before sleep? half hr before sleep?
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