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Old 14-06-2017, 12:16 PM   #1
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Question Question on output for microphone

Hi everyone,
Currently trying to double confirm on the setup for my microphone on whether its work or not? (AVR & TV never come with mic input)

Normally in movie/music i will be using the "TV" mode (ARC) for the audio to pass-thru to my AVR.
So for karaoke setup i still unsure that does connecting TV 3.5mm output --> mic mixer --> input AVR will this work for my microphone?
so i wonder where my input RCA going plug in?

Or should i use optical audio output from my TV to the mixer and into the AVR? (TV to mixer will be using a converter)

Example:
1: TV 3.5mm output (Green) [3.5mm/RCA cable] --> Mixer --> [RCA/RCA cable] --> AVR (from here which RCA input i can use?)
2: TV optical audio-out [Optical cable] --> Digital/Analog Converter Adapter --> Mixer input RCA --> AVR (from here not sure into optical input or?)

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Old 14-06-2017, 06:28 PM   #2
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Looks like you're just overthinking things
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Old 14-06-2017, 06:35 PM   #3
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Looks like you're just overthinking things
I just wanna find a way to setup in either those way or if you got any other better way?
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Old 14-06-2017, 07:07 PM   #4
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One key info is whether you have surround sound coming from TV to AVR via HDMI

If you're only interested in stereo while in your karaoke mode, then both methods you mentioned work fine.

If you're trying to surround sound from TV to AVR and still somehow inject a second source (the mixer's output), you can't do that with HDMI. Unless your AVR actually has mixing capability to playback two inputs simultaneously which is doubtful.

There are solutions... But let's see if we need it first. Karaoke boxes come in 7.1 sound formats?
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May I know what are you trying to setup?
Lip sync singing along with movies/show from TV show?
This not possible, KTV one usually you need a
karaoke box.

Mixer wise is only if you want to sing/broadcast your voice.
For this setup, just simple
Microphone -> Mixer -> AVR will do

So what setup are you looking at?
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Old 14-06-2017, 11:42 PM   #6
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One key info is whether you have surround sound coming from TV to AVR via HDMI

If you're only interested in stereo while in your karaoke mode, then both methods you mentioned work fine.

If you're trying to surround sound from TV to AVR and still somehow inject a second source (the mixer's output), you can't do that with HDMI. Unless your AVR actually has mixing capability to playback two inputs simultaneously which is doubtful.

There are solutions... But let's see if we need it first. Karaoke boxes come in 7.1 sound formats?
I not really get you what u mean, but as mention I just wanna sing using those either method and I won't be using surround of cause for karaoke.. The karaoke music will be coming out from my Smart TV as normal to AVR in ARC using TV mode switch..

Now the question is how the last step (INPUT) I need to plug in from the 2 methods in order to play the music and also sing along with my voice mix in?

/////// /////////////////
Example:
1: TV 3.5mm output (Green) [3.5mm/RCA cable] --> Mixer --> [RCA/RCA cable] --> AVR (from here which RCA input i can use?)
2: TV optical audio-out [Optical cable] --> Digital/Analog Converter Adapter --> Mixer input RCA --> AVR (from here not sure into optical input or?)
//////////////////////////

The last part as u see I asking the input, as diagram show above?
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One key info is whether you have surround sound coming from TV to AVR via HDMI

If you're only interested in stereo while in your karaoke mode, then both methods you mentioned work fine.

If you're trying to surround sound from TV to AVR and still somehow inject a second source (the mixer's output), you can't do that with HDMI. Unless your AVR actually has mixing capability to playback two inputs simultaneously which is doubtful.

There are solutions... But let's see if we need it first. Karaoke boxes come in 7.1 sound formats?
May I know what are you trying to setup?
Lip sync singing along with movies/show from TV show?
This not possible, KTV one usually you need a
karaoke box.

Mixer wise is only if you want to sing/broadcast your voice.
For this setup, just simple
Microphone -> Mixer -> AVR will do

So what setup are you looking at?
No I mean I'm opening a ktv app from my android TV, I wanna use either 2 methods see which one should work as I will be using tv as source, mixer for my microphone input and avr that connect to my speakers which produce both the song and my voice mix in it..

As I post my avr diagram above, both method last step which input jack do I need to use to make them all work?
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Your AVR is what model... and got what input...?

Generally it doesn't matter which RCA input you use. They may call themselves Tuner / CD / Network / Recorder - these are the 4 on my amplifier, they all work the same. Only phono is different.

ADD: I think I see the source of confusion... hence...

Stereo music from TV goes to mixer
Mic goes to mixer
Mixer outputs stereo signal of music + mic. At this point, you can treat this signal like a normal stereo signal like a CD player output or handphone output or etc.
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Your AVR is what model... and got what input...?

Generally it doesn't matter which RCA input you use. They may call themselves Tuner / CD / Network / Recorder - these are the 4 on my amplifier, they all work the same. Only phono is different.

ADD: I think I see the source of confusion... hence...

Stereo music from TV goes to mixer
Mic goes to mixer
Mixer outputs stereo signal of music + mic. At this point, you can treat this signal like a normal stereo signal like a CD player output or handphone output or etc.

Every audio and video from htmi thru ARC so that why i need to switch to "TV mode" in order for my music or show to past on the signal.

So what you mean is when i setup mixer/microphone into my AVR thru either RCA inputs then got sound come out when talk? Without switching the mode to "DVD"?
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Your AVR is what model... and got what input...?

Generally it doesn't matter which RCA input you use. They may call themselves Tuner / CD / Network / Recorder - these are the 4 on my amplifier, they all work the same. Only phono is different.

ADD: I think I see the source of confusion... hence...

Stereo music from TV goes to mixer
Mic goes to mixer
Mixer outputs stereo signal of music + mic. At this point, you can treat this signal like a normal stereo signal like a CD player output or handphone output or etc.
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All the sources are connected to the TV? If so, then

Audio out from TV to mixer
Mixer to AVR's CD in
Switch AVR to CD input whenever you want to karaoke
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All the sources are connected to the TV? If so, then

Audio out from TV to mixer
Mixer to AVR's CD in
Switch AVR to CD input whenever you want to karaoke
Hmm then how about the htmi ARC audio goes or will it just still show the video without the audio from htmi, if i do another audio out is for the mic to the mixer from the TV (Input confirm will be one of RCA to my AVR)

If i switch to CD input then my TV screen lyrics and word still can see meh?
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Hmm then how about the htmi ARC audio goes or will it just still show the video without the audio from htmi, if i do another audio out is for the mic to the mixer from the TV (Input confirm will be one of RCA to my AVR)

If i switch to CD input then my TV screen lyrics and word still can see meh?
So troublesome, if got budget go Audio house and check Karaoke Box.
Like this which I happened to saw but forget the price.

https://www.pioneer.com.sg/my/produc...oduct=SA-Z500A
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Old 15-06-2017, 11:21 AM   #14
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So troublesome, if got budget go Audio house and check Karaoke Box.
Like this which I happened to saw but forget the price.

https://www.pioneer.com.sg/my/produc...oduct=SA-Z500A
For another preamp I need 1 pair of speakers which I don't have much space to put leh sianz, that why I wanna poke the mic using a mixer but in the end I still confused the input if plug in to either RCA will I still get both music and voice come out to my speaker using TV mode as the app is installed in my TV..
Some mention can and some mention can't..
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For another preamp I need 1 pair of speakers which I don't have much space to put leh sianz, that why I wanna poke the mic using a mixer but in the end I still confused the input if plug in to either RCA will I still get both music and voice come out to my speaker using TV mode as the app is installed in my TV..
Some mention can and some mention can't..
We are also confused cuz most will just use a Karaoke box
and done.
I think if you want, you can pop by Audio house see
what type of advice they can give you.

These type of app thing is very confusing.
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