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Old 07-08-2007, 11:46 AM   #16
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The higher frequencies are directional, hence you can localise the sound, bass comes from everywhere, but it seems to emerge from the rear due to the higher frequencies.

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But shouldn't I get that effect as well since I'm using the speakers, specially since from what you seem to be saying is that its not the sub at all? That's the part you have me lost at.
My friend does have a feedback force baringer ( or something like that ) to tune the sub, is that what is giving that bass effect?


PS: We're both using bipolar def tech speakers.

PPS: Sorry for the OOT. I wouldn't say I'm new to this but neither am I an expert so hope you don't mind me trying to find out.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:49 AM   #17
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There is more to it than just the same speakers, setup and room treatment makes a whole lot of difference.
How you assign the various settings and even the BFD also helps.
See xtremehometheater, there are a few guru setup pros there

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=31.0
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:11 PM   #18
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There is more to it than just the same speakers, setup and room treatment makes a whole lot of difference.
How you assign the various settings and even the BFD also helps.
See xtremehometheater, there are a few guru setup pros there

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=31.0

I think its the BFD la. ( Probably the svs sub helps as well ) I visit xtremeplace often too! Too bad I can't make use most of the tips there. My room's hell to plan and subjected to a very strict pwf. ( parents acceptance factor, they want a pretty room, too bad it didn't turn out too pretty, i'm no interior designer for sure ) lol! Whenever design permits I try to squeeze in something to get better audio.
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:42 AM   #19
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Basics of HT

A good link to getting started:


http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...e/ht_need.html
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Old 13-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #20
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Shops

There are many shops which give good service and prices

Keep points:

a- dont be a typical Singaporean and ask lots of questions at one shop then go somewhere elsewhere to get a few dollars discount

b- Adelphi has more 'audiophile' shops which cater to more esoteric brands and since there is less competition, the mark up maybe higher. For those looking only for the best bargains, don't compare the small shops on the higher floors to the typical bargains for computers. Sim Lim Square carries more budget brands and since more shops carry these, they offer more competitive prices. Auditioning can be a bit tricky esp during weekends.

Many shops just stock stuff recommended in What Lo Fi. Its best to use your own ears and AUDITION, rather than post and ask for tons of opinions and hope for the best price on something you don't really know will fit.


Bring your own material, something you know so well you can hum to it. Make sure it carries enough dynamic range for testing the system.

As for actual shops, I will give some recommends on shops I like later

** I have no financial interest in any of these shops **
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Old 13-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #21
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Alternate places for hi fi are People's Park and smaller establishments outside the usual belt, such as in Bukit Timah Plaza.

Some carry specific brands which have no other sellers in Singapore and make it hard to compare prices, some thrive on good service and others just mark up

A few shops will be well known for good service and reasonable prices, others will need to be avoided.
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Old 14-08-2007, 06:49 AM   #22
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Room setup for speakers

A nice pdf file on room setup:


http://www.cardas.com/pdf/roomsetup.pdf
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Old 19-08-2007, 08:39 AM   #23
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Budgets

After blowing away half the house mortage on your system, what next?

Actually some points:

- spend the max you can on the system
- don't end up saving peanuts only to blow it away on frivilous spending on tweaks which don't do a lot
- do budget for cables - about 10% will be fine - there is really no use buying a $1k cable for a budget 1k system

- you may wish to spend in stages, see how it sounds, find out what the system lacks, then spend again to satisfy that 'itchy backside' since few people can stay content for that long

About 1/5 each for source, 2/5 for amps and 2/5 for speakers
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Old 19-08-2007, 08:50 PM   #24
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Budgeting Your Home Theater

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Top Ten Loudspeaker Gimmicks to Avoid

http://www.audioholics.com/buying-gu...eaker-gimmicks
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Old 20-08-2007, 12:37 PM   #26
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More HT primers here

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/in...?topic=41820.0
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Old 20-08-2007, 10:22 PM   #27
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This is a simple article on why we should avoid those cheap and nasty DVD players:


http://www.smh.com.au/news/reviews/c...e#contentSwap1

"So why would you spend $300 or more on a DVD player when the discount houses have them from $69? It's an easy answer and it's just two letters long: HD. High-definition screens don't just show up the abilities of a good DVD player, they also expose the weaknesses of a bad one, often very painfully.
The picture quality of a cheap DVD player may be fine on the 51cm television in the kid's room but on your 127cm HD flat screen in the living room you'll note the poor handling of rapidly moving images, the rainbows that form around densely packed lines, the colour bleed that makes the definition horrible and the fuzziness. And if you have a good sound system, you'll certainly notice the poor audio quality.

Premium DVD players do more than handle all of this comfortably - they also have features that the cheapies simply can't match, such as video upscaling to take standard-definition images up to simulated HD. It's not as good as the real thing but it's not bad. Many have HDMI connectivity, using just one lead to handle what would normally require four or five. They can work with compressed DivX files downloaded from the internet and burned onto a DVD, and play a wide range of both video and audio disc formats.

Audio quality is a big point. The makers of cheap DVD players pay little attention to it and if you use the machine for playing CDs the result can be most disappointing. Some more expensive DVD players have such good audio quality they even do justice to the premium audio formats of super-audio CD and DVD audio.

But more than this, they're far better built. You'll notice the disc drawers slide in and out smoothly and almost silently and there's no audible mechanical noise when the disc is spinning up. They're built to last and they won't develop lots of tolerable but still niggling problems as the warranty approaches expiry - or pack it in for good shortly afterwards."
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Old 26-08-2007, 05:08 PM   #28
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Subwoofer tips

Placement:


http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/sp...ment%20article

Bass management:

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/ge...gs-made-simple


BTW this applies to most types, but I would not call the PC based unit that came with those computer speakers a subwoofer though.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:14 PM   #29
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ALLOCATING YOUR BUDGET

This is a simple guide IMO:

35% speakers
25% amp
25% source
10% room
5% cables


And spend gradually, no doubt buying it all from one shop helps the price, but you will not enjoy the benefit of knowing what improvements are needed and you still get that itchy backside within a few months again.

Buy the best you can, so you don't waste money on small upgrades which are not cost effective.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:52 AM   #30
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Choosing speakers

A good article by Robert Harley who also write a good book on this


http://www.avguide.com/news/2007/08/...t-loudspeaker/
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