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Calibration:
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1.3a is good enough for HDMI and 3D
http://www.cedia.com.au/index.cfm/pa..._detail/id/217
Comments were put together by CEDIA members David Meyer (Kordz) & Michael Heiss 3D WILL run through existing HDMI cables. However we do believe that 3D will ‘up the ante’ in terms of quality of cable, but from a bandwidth perspective, nothing changes... yet. Virtually all currently deployed HDMI over 5m in length (generally) are NOT High Speed, rather Standard Speed certification level, but with sufficient headroom to enable 1080p operation. Note that these cables are only certified to 720p/1080i (provided they are certified at all!), and used without compliance to 1080p level. Most installers don’t really care about certified performance, just “whether it will work” – unfortunate, but fact. This will however become more of an issue moving forward. 1. 3D from Blu-ray has been mandated at an initial maximum of 1080p/24 per eye, meaning effectively 1080p/48 combined data rate – less than the current 2D standard of 1080p/60. So if the HDMI cable supports 1080p/60 fine now, it will also support 3D from Blu-ray no problem. Note: it is insufficient to talk resolution without referencing frame rate as it does not otherwise define the data rate. Gaming has been defined under the new specification 1.4a (out just last week) that 720p/60 per eye be supported, but gamers will likely want 1080p in due course. When this happens I predict that we’ll see gaming go to 1080p/60 per eye, meaning nearly 9.0Gbps – DEFINITELY High Speed and nothing less – currently cables that support 1080p/60 in 2D, but without High Speed certification, will NOT support 1080p/60 in 3D. In the meantime though, support for such high res/frame rate has not been made mandatory, and is merely speculative. 2. It is NOT necessary to upgrade to a so-called “HDMI 1.4” cable to enable 3D support. Also, any cable which is referred to by the manufacturer as “HDMI 1.4” is in fact non-compliant due to its breach of the HDMI Logo & Trademark guidelines. So, should you care if a cable is simply mislabelled? Absolutely! Labelling the cable in a compliant manner is the easy part; making the cable to perform in a compliant manner is actually the really hard part. If a manufacturer can’t get the small stuff right, how can they be trusted with the big stuff? 3. For broadcast, the HDMI 1.4a specification mandates support for 720p & 1080i @ 50/59.94/60 refresh rates (NOT 1080p at all), using “over and under” and “side by side” 3D formats. This means both left and right eye images share the same frame, keeping bandwidth the same as current 2D equivalents, but effectively halving the resulting resolution per eye when displayed on screen. Bottom line, Standard Speed HDMI is fine for broadcast 4. So will HD Set top boxes need to be HDMI 1.4 compliant to handle 3D? This all depends on whether the set top box will have any requirement to know that an incoming broadcast signal is 3D, and flag it as such. If so, then firmware will need to be upgraded, effectively changing the device to HDMI 1.4a compliance (I suspect this will be the case). If it’s just a slave and throughputs the signal passively, with the broadcaster flagging the content for a display to recognize it as 3D and do its thing, then the boxes wouldn’t need an upgrade and 1.3 spec is fine (highlyunlikely). Either way there will not be any hardware change, at least not specifically for the 3D feature. That is, it is expected that all devices will require 1.4a compliance to support 3D, but that does not mean having to buy all new devices – some will simply be firmware upgraded. Sony are already offering this with some of their Blu-ray players. As for HDMI Ethernet Channel (HEC), this is an optional extra feature of both devices and cables, with the latter requiring the additional label “...with Ethernet” on cables. As Michael says, HEC is not used at all for 3D – this is absolutely true. The Audio Return Channel will use the HEC for best results, but can also still work in “Single Line” mode through cables without the Ethernet Channel. So choosing a HDMI cable with Ethernet Channel opens up support for distribution of Ethernet over HDMI, and the most robust operation of Audio Return Channel. It is NOT required for 3D. So, suffice to say that HDMI cables that currently support 1080p/60 can continue to be used for 3D from all sources, but with new installations, upgrading to true certified High Speed will certainly give a far superior degree of “future proofing”, especially when considering where gaming is likely to go. We hope this helps answer some of the mysteries out in the industry. |
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Using that calibration disc
For the average consumer who takes a new LCD or plasma TV out of the box, what is the best way to set it up for home use? What is the name of the DVD used for adjusting and fine tuning?
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/scottw...ut_of_the_box/
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Display Myths Shattered: How Monitor & HDTV Companies Cook Their Specs
A very useful article before you buy that LCD / LED TV with the fancy specs instead of a plasma.
How not to buy into the specs and marketing: Display Myths Shattered: How Monitor & HDTV Companies Cook Their Specs http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...red?page=0%2C0 |
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Calibration discs
Too many discs can add confusion to new buyers and newbies to HT.
Firstly, understand the controls on your TV, amp or speakers. Go through the basic terms like speaker placement, SPL meters, color, brightness, contrast etc first before you venture further. Then you will need to see if you use your TV in 2 settings – day and night. Then you may need to use 2 different settings for each light condition. For video, the main thing is optimising your settings to give you the best picture quality (PQ) and similarly for sound, the ideal setting to make you feel part of the sound. For video, it should have the basic brightness, colour, contrast and tint sections, then it may have test screens to centre the picture, and further tests of alignment, bleed, interlacing etc, but the first few should be present. Good test discs also have realistic scenes after test screens to show what real skin tones look like. Discs should be easy to navigate, understand and also have explanations for each section. Sound testing can be done after basic setting up of the speakers, measuring their distances and also using the built in auto-EQ functions like Audyssey, YPAO, MACC etc first. There should be a sound sweep through all the speakers, and not all discs cover 7.1 channels, so take note. Then there should be a frequency sweep from low to high, and there should be enough breaks between each frequency and each of sufficient duration (or you can advance the section) so you can take readings. First the free: Tests screens on TV: Sure it is in SDTV and depends on your reception, but it is a good start. Few things come free, but the THX labelled discs all come with basic color and sound calibration, which can be very useful. http://www.hometheatermag.com/advicefromtheexperts/407cali/ Radio: The BBC male voice is an excellent test of how natural your centre speaker sounds, does it really sound like someone is in front of you? And when you use the 7 channel stereo mode, do all the voices reach your ears at the same time? Life – BBC On Disc 1 there is a setup for Hi Def tune up which is as simple as you can imagine and IMO, excellent and even better than some of those fancy AVIA or DVE discs! Those that cost $$: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6463_7-5085739-3.html#3 Sound and Vision Calibration DVD – Simple with many explanations, good for beginners. Joe Kane’s DVE- available in BR and DVD. Oldie and goodie, covers most of what is needed but the ease of use isn’t too great, especially for beginners. AVIA - available in BR and DVD. Newer version of an old hit – comprehensive and pretty easy for newbies – good for mid to high level users. The Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark Blu-ray Edition If you bought a Oppo BD 83, this comes free and is good for beginners to mid – level. HD HQV Benchmark Blu-Ray Disc http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hqv-benchmark.html This is a mid to high level test disc, but it is not too hard to use. Last edited by petetherock; 06-11-2010 at 01:07 PM.. |
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Taking your first steps into Hi Def?
Getting a new Blu Ray player? Then take note of these steps: - what is your viewing distance? Take some time to read the thread above on this and if you sit pretty far away from the tiny 40", say > 2m then you are not really using the full benefits of a Full HD tv. - what is your viewing diet? If you are trying out BR, then the majority of your viewing will still be free to air channels which can be as bad as VCD quality. Then that Full HD LCD will only make it worse. Otherwise sit closer to enjoy full HD and move back for SD TV. - Are you watching BR solely? I use a HD Ready 50" plasma for SD TV at 3m. The images are great. I use a Full HD 50" plasma for all my BR at 2.3m. The details are awesome. Sit any further and you won't appreciate the details. If you use it at the same distance for SD TV, it will be too close. So a compromise is needed. I don't think many of our members use their single TV in the hall for all Hi Def viewing. So where you place your chair is important as a halfway point to allow you to appreciate Hi Def whilst not making Channel 5 look bad. YMMV... but don't follow blindly and upgrade to a new Full HD TV for nothing. Also the video chips / scalers will differ. If you watch BR on a Full HD TV, you won't want any processing - use the "Direct" mode. I have previously posted in this thread on scalers & video chips, it will be worth your while to read it and explore. Cheap Full HD TVs will have lousy video chips, so if you need the video processing, then it matters. It gets used in SD TV, DVDs, your ripped to hard disk videos, and even for PC work. There is no free lunch, and going cheap will mean compromise somewhere. Choose wisely instead of listening to those who recommend Full HD blindly. Let your eyes be the final judge. |
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HDMI:
This is an excellent link: http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/kb.aspx?c=7#49 Note that the terms 1.3 and 1.4 are no longer in use, so beware if someone is trying hard to sell you a cable based on this. There is only "Standard" or "High Speed". The main difference is the former is good up to 1080i. Q. What is the difference between a “Standard” HDMI cable and a “High-Speed” HDMI cable? |
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[Article] HardwareZone's HDTV Buying Guide Essentials
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[Video] Your Guide to Smart TVs
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Just sharing some thoughts on buying big ticket items. To many, putting a few thousand down takes careful deliberation, and the last thing you want is a lemon...
With the advent of the lemon law soon, we can expect some protection from errant vendors. However, it pays to do some homework on the various sellers. Most new items will either work well - majority of cases or you can have a defective set, in which case you want to try and get a replacement. This should not be too hard technically. But herein lies the issues with the smaller vendors. They are more nimble, and can offer very competitive prices, and deliver the goods soon after their come onto the market or even before. But in situations like that, when you need a replacement, this is when it pays to go to a big vendor. They offer a 7 day one to one return policy for defective panels, and this is vital when you get something that is defective. So kudos to HN, BD and other big vendors, in giving a no questions asked return policy, even ahead of the lemon law. At most, they will ask you to contact the repair crew to verify that there is an issue with the TV, then they will work to get a new one into your hands. Bravo and IMO, stick to the trusted vendors, who may charge a little more, and get the extended warranty, for those instances of trouble. Extended Warranties: Also do note that not all warranties are the same. Each of the vendors offer an extended warranty, which essentially covers the period after the warranty from the makers run out. In most TVs, it is three years from the makers, then another two from the sellers. You can also get AIG or an insurance company to provide such a service. However it is important to check the finer details. Most will cover repair costs. But when the set is found to be beyond repair, then this is what differentiates the sheep from the lambs. Some will replace the spoilt set with a new one if it os beyond repair. Others only refund you a percentage of the cost, whereas others will give you a new set from the current range. So the costs are different and you should examine the fine print carefully.
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What exactly is a Smart TV and what makes them smart? In this video episode, we'll get down to that by taking a look at various implementations of this growing Smart TV platform from LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony to better understand and manage your expectations. 