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Old 12-02-2016, 08:22 PM   #46
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Old 12-02-2016, 08:36 PM   #47
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Looking at the current G3, G4 battery life, I'd be surprised if G5 can achieved 4hr SOT. I suspect it can only do 3 - 3.5hr SOT because of the large screen and high resolution. Unless the 820 is really so efficient but it still depends alot on the screen. Quick charge is already supported on G4 with Qualcomm 2.0, I dont know if G5 support the QC3.0 or not. And I do hope LG supply the QC charger instead of the regular one like they do on G4. I feel they are missing these small things that pisses people off with the G4 without even having wireless charging on stock casing like the G3. Moving backwards??
The battery is only as good as its display. So long its not amoled screen which is energy efficient. Bigger battery only bring about unnecessary weight.
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Old 12-02-2016, 08:42 PM   #48
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Yeah! Better wait at least 6 months to check whether LG upgraded the bootloop to ver 2.0. I will be skipping this phone and shall wait for the G6 with bootloop ver 3.0 instead!
No thanks to bootloop upgrade. Lol.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:35 PM   #49
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The way I see it.

- Users affected by the G4's bootloop issue would definitely be very very sceptical over LG new offerings for phones.

- 'Always On' notifications mean bigger battery drain I think.

-Probably it will be wise to wait around 6 months after launch..since we never know if we will be getting a 'ticking time bomb'.

-Dual sim is already possible. How about dual microsd?
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:50 PM   #50
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LG still refused to use amoled in their main display. Only V10 tiny secondary display had that. I rather the S7 even though the battery is non removable. S7 should have dual sim with the 2nd sim slot microSD compatible this time round.
I think the main reason is that LG itself produces IPS LCD screen under its subsidiary, LG Display.
By sourcing from themselves, they saved some $$$ by not relying on other displaying manufacturer and they can show the latest IPS LCD tech they have.

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Old 13-02-2016, 01:29 AM   #51
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I think the main reason is that LG itself produces IPS LCD screen under its subsidiary, LG Display.
By sourcing from themselves, they saved some $$$ by not relying on other displaying manufacturer and they can show the latest IPS LCD tech they have.

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Regardless how great the LCD, the future is amoled screen. LCD only advantage is only realistic colors and nothing else.
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Old 13-02-2016, 05:38 AM   #52
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Regardless how great the LCD, the future is amoled screen. LCD only advantage is only realistic colors and nothing else.
The question is, how many would like to see natural
colours instead of unnatural vibrant colours that are
too saturated as in the Galaxy S5?

LCDs always-on information on the display with very
low power draw has the better advantage.

It's not really an advantage for AMOLED with its
saturated colours. So to conclude that it is better
than LCD is misleading.

"AMOLED makes images pop out" is not always the
consumers' preference for realistic natural colours.
Many consumers would agree that they prefer LCD
screens with its new IPS technology though.

One thing for sure is that there is no need to use
design app for power consumption.

Moreover every consumers' values are different in
areas of consistency, budget, realism and even things
like "lack of burn-in".
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Old 13-02-2016, 12:02 PM   #53
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No thanks to bootloop upgrade. Lol.
Indeed. LG reputation is already gone! G4 users affected by the bootloop issue will never touch their so-called latest and greatest phone ever again! It will takes a lot of efforts and a long time before they could redeem themselves as an inferior quality manufacturer as compared to Samsung! Nobody is going to pay premium price for non premium quality phone.. Good riddance!
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Old 13-02-2016, 12:05 PM   #54
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The question is, how many would like to see natural
colours instead of unnatural vibrant colours that are
too saturated as in the Galaxy S5?

LCDs always-on information on the display with very
low power draw has the better advantage.

It's not really an advantage for AMOLED with its
saturated colours. So to conclude that it is better
than LCD is misleading.

"AMOLED makes images pop out" is not always the
consumers' preference for realistic natural colours.
Many consumers would agree that they prefer LCD
screens with its new IPS technology though.

One thing for sure is that there is no need to use
design app for power consumption.

Moreover every consumers' values are different in
areas of consistency, budget, realism and even things
like "lack of burn-in".
The main benefit for amoled is energy efficient. Not to mentioned deep blacks although there is a blue tint under certain angle. Battery had not advanced with the other components, thus efficiency would meant longer usage before charging or battery changing.

I think there is screen calibration to reduce saturation for that matter. Good thing there are other phone manufacturers that also use amoled instead of only Samsung which used to dominate in display tech. Moto, BB and Huawei already had theirs.

Its a joke LG can only afford a thinny tiny second screen thats amoled. Why they even make oled TVs? No matter how energy efficient, the always on feature will drain battery no matter.
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Regardless how great the LCD, the future is amoled screen. LCD only advantage is only realistic colors and nothing else.
Whatever it is LCD or amoled, I think these are not deal breakers. Personally I like amoled more than LCD but this alone has never stopped me from getting an LCD phone like the G4, V10 or even the G Pro2.

Ultimately it's features like removable battery, expandable storage, a great camera and UI that determines my choice.
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Old 13-02-2016, 12:13 PM   #56
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I think the main reason is that LG itself produces IPS LCD screen under its subsidiary, LG Display.
By sourcing from themselves, they saved some $$$ by not relying on other displaying manufacturer and they can show the latest IPS LCD tech they have.

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How about oled then? Those on their premium TVs not produced by themselves?
If thats the case, they are still way behind Samsung.

They can do an QHD oled phone right?
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Whatever it is LCD or amoled, I think these are not deal breakers. Personally I like amoled more than LCD but this alone has never stopped me from getting an LCD phone like the G4, V10 or even the G Pro2.

Ultimately it's features like removable battery, expandable storage, a great camera and UI that determines my choice.
Aftersales service is very often overlooked as one might not think their phone may break someday within the warranty window. What if customer service is like sluggish, never update customer, exorbitant price for parts, readiness to void warranty if possible, etc?
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Old 15-02-2016, 02:32 PM   #58
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My 2 cents, Despite suffering the bootloop issue im not instantly boycotting G5. At the moment im still in the middle of a samsung boycott cos i really dont want a glass phone with no microSD and there are very few brands left on market.

The bootloop issue was highly isolated so i can still believe LG didn't suddenly turn all their whole device portfolio into potential would-be bricks like 64bit iphones with 1970 date

My main hesitation on G5 is cos it looks to be 5.5" again and after 1 year of G4 i kinda wannt to go back to 5 inch. Also magic slot and always on screen are gimmicks to me so its not must have

Toby's comment on waiting i think is wise, not necessarily due to bootloops cos that is a touch wood case that can strike any device, but i find that LG devices drop price faster over time versus other brands
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Old 15-02-2016, 03:37 PM   #59
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Whatever it is LCD or amoled, I think these are not deal breakers. Personally I like amoled more than LCD but this alone has never stopped me from getting an LCD phone like the G4, V10 or even the G Pro2.

Ultimately it's features like removable battery, expandable storage, a great camera and UI that determines my choice.
Aftersales service is very often overlooked as one might not think their phone may break someday within the warranty window. What if customer service is like sluggish, never update customer, exorbitant price for parts, readiness to void warranty if possible, etc?
My 2 cents, Despite suffering the bootloop issue im not instantly boycotting G5. At the moment im still in the middle of a samsung boycott cos i really dont want a glass phone with no microSD and there are very few brands left on market.

The bootloop issue was highly isolated so i can still believe LG didn't suddenly turn all their whole device portfolio into potential would-be bricks like 64bit iphones with 1970 date

My main hesitation on G5 is cos it looks to be 5.5" again and after 1 year of G4 i kinda wannt to go back to 5 inch. Also magic slot and always on screen are gimmicks to me so its not must have

Toby's comment on waiting i think is wise, not necessarily due to bootloops cos that is a touch wood case that can strike any device, but i find that LG devices drop price faster over time versus other brands
These are valuable feedbacks for LG next move to produce
what the customers want and not to go into too much of
dream land of innovative ideas that won't be popular in the
long run.

As a matter of fact, those who are using Pro 2 are finding
the screen size very suitable and will not be so keen to have
the v10 and the smaller G5.

We are looking for bigger screen, more Ram, faster
processor and improvement on the UI will be wonderful.

Finger sensor and whatever will increases the cost of
production and consumers have to pay a higher price.

For sure, LG must retain the removable battery because it is
the winning combination for high-end users who usually
have two or more spare batteries when the phone is needed
to be used as a camera or for doing videos.

For those with such purpose the LCD screen is a must for its
realistic colours. Hopefully it will also have the f/1.8 or maybe
the f/1.4 lens for its manual camera.

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For those with such purpose the LCD screen is a must for its
realistic colours. Hopefully it will also have the f/1.8 or maybe
the f/1.4 lens for its manual camera.
Unless youre a professional who uses his phone to do serious photo/video editing, the 'downside' of realistic colours is trivial.

What people value more is brightness under daylight, its one of the Asus zenfone recurring weaknesses and reviewers constantly point it out.

imo, the f/1.8 aperture is already good enough. If you've really used the G4's camera before manually, you'll know that it's not the aperture that critically needs improvement, but rather...

- the OIS, which has too strong a wobbly jello effect when video recoding.

- the metering, which seems to be stuck at spot or centre-weighted (not sure which but im certain you cant change it)

- the noise reduction under lower ISOs, which is so strong it gives a watercolour effect when shooting indoors.

- the abnormally high amount of RGB noise when shooting auto at low light, which they try to sidestep by making the camera app force HDR when it's too dark, even when you disable HDR

- the camera driver which is somewhat proprietary (try downloading any 3rd party camera app and see if you can change the WB whether anything happens)

But i guess if you think the G4's bokeh capabilities not power enough and still want to squeeze out more DOF in the upcoming G5 then f/1.whatever becomes a big deal........

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