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Old 25-05-2016, 05:39 AM   #31
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just to up this enquiry, if it possible now to convert a postpaid plan to prepaid and retain number?
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Old 25-05-2016, 11:18 AM   #32
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just to up this enquiry, if it possible now to convert a postpaid plan to prepaid and retain number?
even if the number is prepaid to postpaid, seems like its still not possible to get it back to prepaid.

unless u can trick the system by doing number porting back to prepaid via another provider.
no clue on the success. since i dont think anyone will even attempt such feat.
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Old 25-05-2016, 11:25 AM   #33
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just to up this enquiry, if it possible now to convert a postpaid plan to prepaid and retain number?
Not possible... IDA said demand not there yet...


We would like to share that IDA has put in place Number Portability requirements to enable consumers to retain their numbers when they switch mobile service providers (i.e., allows pre-paid or post-paid mobile customers to port their numbers within the respective service offerings). This is in recognition that our consumers would choose mobile services based on their needs and most would likely stay as a pre-paid or post-paid mobile customer when they switch service providers. The intent of Number Portability is to ensure that there is no barrier to switching service providers because of the number.

In a competitive market environment, IDA leaves it to the mobile service providers on what services they wish to offer to their own customers. Hence, whether a service provider allows its customers to convert from post-paid services to pre-paid services (while remaining with the same mobile service providers), or vice-versa, is left to market forces.

Notwithstanding, IDA had reviewed the demand for porting of post-paid services to pre-paid (and vice versa) by surveying consumers and found that the demand for such services to be rather niche at this juncture. Considering that the cost of implementing this feature may not be commensurate with the current demand, IDA has not required mobile service providers to implement the feature. Nonetheless, IDA notes that mobile operators have made a commercial decision to offer pre-paid to post-paid number retention services. We will continue to monitor the developments in this area.

We hope this clarifies. Thank you.

https://www.ida.gov.sg/Policies-and-...er-Portability

Let all contact IDA on policies related to Full Mobile Number Portability from above link
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Old 25-05-2016, 02:37 PM   #34
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Demand not there? what kind of reasoning is that?

I am waiting too for postpaid to prepaid - retain number.
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Old 25-05-2016, 05:22 PM   #35
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Not possible... IDA said demand not there yet...
Cost is only a excuses. Singtel can do it for Singtel pre pay to Singtel post pay as I had did it once. All you need is to pay for the new sim card.
So after all, Singapore is not a smart city. But cost city!
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Old 25-05-2016, 11:02 PM   #36
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Demand not there? what kind of reasoning is that?

I am waiting too for postpaid to prepaid - retain number.
Then write to IDA (info@ida.gov.sg) and see if they give you the same template reply ?
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Old 17-08-2016, 03:14 AM   #37
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Prepaid to postpaid = lower demand, can!
Postpaid to prepaid = higher demand, cannot!

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IDA really thinking no one wants to downgrade, only upgrade? Have they even done a survey to back their claim? The reason why we're asking on this thread is because there's a demand!
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:08 AM   #38
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Prepaid to postpaid = lower demand, can!
Postpaid to prepaid = higher demand, cannot!

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IDA really thinking no one wants to downgrade, only upgrade? Have they even done a survey to back their claim? The reason why we're asking on this thread is because there's a demand!
iDA didn't mandate the downgrade from Postpaid to Prepaid, nor any intra-carrier porting. They also mandate inter-carrier porting (e.g. SingTel to M1).

Any intra-carrier porting is based on the carrier's decisions, and that is not under iDA control.

As usual, for the Big Three, profitability is key. They won't allow downgrade since it can cause serious strain on their ARPU (and earnings per customer). At least now they have the SIM-only plans, which is still more expensive than prepaid for some (low usage group), but at least better than nothing. ~$15 for voice/text/data on Postpaid was totally unheard of, but now have liao.


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Old 24-11-2016, 03:55 AM   #39
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Not possible... IDA said demand not there yet...
Number portability: MDA should stop being in cahoots with telcos to rob people's $$$.

The title of the forum letter reveals how unreasonable/ two faced MDA is...

Even if MDA wants to protect telcos bottom line and does not want people who trade in hp 'golden' numbers to exploit cheaper pre-paid card options just in order to hog certain hp numbers for a low maintainence charge, MDA should permit every Singaporean to transfer at least one phone number from postpaid to prepaid if the person has been using the postpaid number for at least 2yrs (full contract) and does not own any other prepaid hp line (I.e. for retirees/ those who do not need the expensive postpaid packages but still want to be contactable to old friends @home/abroad). No more than one such conversion per year per person may be allowed. In any case, current laws do not allow individuals to register for anything more than 3 prepaid hp numbers.

MDA should focus on helping poor people to keep in contact with their relatives/ friends and not focus on helping telcos profit @ citizen's expense.




Number porting: Is it low demand if option is unavailable?
PUBLISHED NOV 22, 2016, 5:50 PM SGT

Besides the concerns raised by Dr Gil Simon Schneider ("2G network shutdown will be costly for users of basic phones"; Nov 14), there is another practice by telcos which is not favourable to the weaker segment of society.

This is the portability of mobile phone numbers from post-paid to pre-paid plans.

Currently, telcos allow number portability only when there is an "upgrade" of services, such as from pre-paid to post-paid, but not for a "downgrade".


Ms Ann Chan of the then Media Development Authority has said that telcos are not required to implement post-paid to pre-paid porting, as the demand is low and the cost of implementation may be passed on to consumers, leading to higher charges ("Low demand for post-paid to pre-paid number porting"; Forum Online, Oct 7).

However, I wonder if demand really is low, given that consumers are not offered that option at all.

I understand that some administrative costs will be incurred, but most consumers would not mind paying a small fee for such portability.

With uncertain economic conditions and ageing populations, subscribers have to prioritise their spending, including phone use.

The infrastructure to port numbers is already there. Consumers should be offered the option to port numbers from post-paid to pre-paid.

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Whole load of bullsh!t ¢rap from IMDA director: just read for yourself and see that the director is just folding her arms and saying: "IMDA would let mobile service providers offer this service option commercially, in response to market demand.": she is basically in cahoots w money faced telcos and cannot see the prejudice of the one way street offered by the telcos...

I do hope that the same silly IMDA director will reply to the latest forum letter by Ong See Fong... might not make any difference though considering that these sock puppet civil servants might be looking forward toward a cushy, overpaid directors post some day in our listed telcos I guess...

Allow customers to keep mobile number when converting to pre-paid plan
PUBLISHED. SEP 21, 2016, 6:31 PM SGT

While mobile subscribers are able to retain their phone numbers when they convert from a pre-paid plan to a post-paid plan, they cannot do so when converting the other way.

I hope the Infocomm Development Authority will work with the telcos here to enable this mobile number portability.

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http://www.straitstimes.com/forum/le...-pre-paid-plan
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Low demand for post-paid to pre-paid number porting
PUBLISHED. OCT 7, 2016, 4:04 PM SGT
The Infocomm Media Development Authority (IMDA) requires mobile service providers to offer post-paid to post-paid number porting and pre-paid to pre-paid number porting between service providers ("Allow customers to keep mobile number when converting to pre-paid plan" by Mr Lim Tong Wah; Forum Online, Sept 21).

This requirement has been in place since 1997 and 2008 respectively. It allows consumers to switch service providers with greater ease, as well as facilitate competition.

IMDA notes that the current demand for post-paid to pre-paid number porting (and vice versa) is low.

Hence, if IMDA requires that mobile service providers implement post-paid to pre-paid number porting when the demand is low, the cost of implementation may be passed on to consumers, leading to higher charges.

Thus, IMDA would let mobile service providers offer this service option commercially, in response to market demand.

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Number porting: Is it low demand if option is unavailable?
PUBLISHED NOV 22, 2016, 5:50 PM SGT

Besides the concerns raised by Dr Gil Simon Schneider ("2G network shutdown will be costly for users of basic phones"; Nov 14), there is another practice by telcos which is not favourable to the weaker segment of society.

This is the portability of mobile phone numbers from post-paid to pre-paid plans.

Currently, telcos allow number portability only when there is an "upgrade" of services, such as from pre-paid to post-paid, but not for a "downgrade".


Ms Ann Chan of the then Media Development Authority has said that telcos are not required to implement post-paid to pre-paid porting, as the demand is low and the cost of implementation may be passed on to consumers, leading to higher charges ("Low demand for post-paid to pre-paid number porting"; Forum Online, Oct 7).

However, I wonder if demand really is low, given that consumers are not offered that option at all.

I understand that some administrative costs will be incurred, but most consumers would not mind paying a small fee for such portability.

With uncertain economic conditions and ageing populations, subscribers have to prioritise their spending, including phone use.

The infrastructure to port numbers is already there. Consumers should be offered the option to port numbers from post-paid to pre-paid.

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http://www.straitstimes.com/forum/le...is-unavailable
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Old 29-11-2016, 04:49 PM   #41
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How do they know its "low demand" when its not allowed?
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Until now still cannot port from postpaid to prepaid.
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Old 19-10-2017, 12:41 PM   #43
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Old 19-10-2017, 01:41 PM   #44
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Until now still cannot port from postpaid to prepaid.
Singapore is very slow in this area. Dont qualify to be a smart country especially in telco area.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:21 PM   #45
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Trying to do similar post to pre, did a Google search and found this thread.

Unfortunately I found a clause in M1 saying this is not possible
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