TPG the new Telco Discussion

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Anyone got more news about the new telco?
Will there be better and cheaper fibre plan?
 

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TPG, Australia ISP. Most notably they formerly acquired Internode and IINet, which are some of the major high-end players in Australia.

[No 1 Telecom] Telstra == Singtel
[No 2 Telecom] Optus (Singtel) == Starhub/M1
[MVNO, No 2 ISP] TPG/IINet/Internode == ViewQwest/MyRepublic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPG_Telecom
 

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The license they bid is for mobile service right? Bot saying that they will not venture into ISP service but I guess their main focus now is the mobile since they have a target set by the authority to meet.

They are ISP providing both mobile and ISP services so technically they shld not have problem doing so.

Anyone got more news about the new telco?
Will there be better and cheaper fibre plan?
 

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feedback on reddit doesnt sound good. said to have non existent customer service in aussie land.
 

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TPG, Australia ISP. Most notably they formerly acquired Internode and IINet, which are some of the major high-end players in Australia.

[No 1 Telecom] Telstra == Singtel
[No 2 Telecom] Optus (Singtel) == Starhub/M1
[MVNO, No 2 ISP] TPG/IINet/Internode == ViewQwest/MyRepublic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPG_Telecom

If you are tiering with VQ and MR , then we should be expecting the same crap.
 

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Let's wait and see how our big 3 torture newcomer...

If same plan and same service as big 3, who want to jump?
If reduce the price and want to fight big 3, do you think big 3 will just standby and watch?
Otherwise after being tortured, then confirm bye2 and closed down.
 

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Should this news be in the mobile forum instead? Just thinking out loud.

Bye bye to unlimited mobile broadband data

Just enjoy while you can
 

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Singtel and Starhub are ripping huge profits. Singapore's mobile and ISP is a way lucrative market more than European and Austrialian ISPs.
In fact, each additional telco bring in additional competition.
For example,
M1 always try to be the most affordable. They always try to play with "unlimited" plans.
Viewquest integrates VPN into their internet services at one of the lower prices.
Starhub is the one that introduced per second billing when they enter the market years ago. It only become a norm after many years.

If there are no competition, we will still be bound to Singtel. Even now, Singtel is usually the latest to come out with their promotions. They usually "react" instead of "act. For example, they are the last to allow 5 subscribers in mobile phone plan discounts. M1 provide bundled discounts up to 5 subscribers first, starhub follow suit, then Singtel about 1year++ later.
That is probably why our gov't want to bring in the 4th telco.

TPG will probably have a hard time. Many of the network infrastructure, they will have to rent from Singtel first before they can built their own....

TPG will have to change and adapt to Singapore's environment. Hope they can bring in some disruptive changes that is beneficial to consumers. :)
 
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Don't expect TPG to cut prices much. They paid $105M for the license. Another few hundred millions are needed for infrastructure.

And it will be many years before its coverage is comparable to other players.

With rising interest rates, saturated market, I am afraid consolidation might happen instead.
 

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Don't expect TPG to cut prices much. They paid $105M for the license. Another few hundred millions are needed for infrastructure.

And it will be many years before its coverage is comparable to other players.

With rising interest rates, saturated market, I am afraid consolidation might happen instead.

Totally agree. It's a revenue exercise for govt because I think they need money to do smart nation. Seriously everyone think govt care about competition among telcos meh. If that is the case, why is your cable tv and epl so expensive ?

Don't harbor any hopes tpg will be good. Responses from Australia users r bad.
 

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Totally agree. It's a revenue exercise for govt because I think they need money to do smart nation. Seriously everyone think govt care about competition among telcos meh. If that is the case, why is your cable tv and epl so expensive ?

Don't harbor any hopes tpg will be good. Responses from Australia users r bad.

I guess TPG is very unlikely to offer lower price because their bid is a bit high and they are new and do not have their own infra unless they pump in lots of extra cash to do their own infra. Their price is Australia is not cheap so they are very unlikely to offer cheap price here. Waiting to see their offer next year.
 

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They only have like 350k subscribers in Australia or maybe max 400k.

They are only a $800m company in Australia, not if sure if they have the financial backing to put millions into the infrastructure and earn back quickly. For sure they will not win too much market share like MyRepublic. Say maybe 4-5%, sure they will bleed for 3-5 before starting to earn back the profits. In a way, they need to move out of Australia as deployment will be easier in SG due to the proximity.

Let's hope they can keep the promos coming and get the incumbents in check. Or better still, maybe work with MyRepublic to get them to be be a MVNP but just wishful thinking.
 

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They only have like 350k subscribers in Australia or maybe max 400k.

They are only a $800m company in Australia, not if sure if they have the financial backing to put millions into the infrastructure and earn back quickly. For sure they will not win too much market share like MyRepublic. Say maybe 4-5%, sure they will bleed for 3-5 before starting to earn back the profits. In a way, they need to move out of Australia as deployment will be easier in SG due to the proximity.

Let's hope they can keep the promos coming and get the incumbents in check. Or better still, maybe work with MyRepublic to get them to be be a MVNP but just wishful thinking.


actually, giving extra data allowance is not a big ask. It's the speed that causes issues not how much each person uses per month
 

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actually, giving extra data allowance is not a big ask. It's the speed that causes issues not how much each person uses per month

Hahaha giving more data basically encourages higher usage for most people, which leads to congestion in the limited data pipe, hence speed issues.

You are basically saying that we should be like SingTel in the past, giving 12GB per plan but making it unusable during off peak hours at orchard road.

Having said the above, Singapore companies are stupid in negotiation. Only pushes cost to consumers without learning how to bargain with supplier. Look at SingTel bidding for EPL broadcasting rights you know already.
 

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Singtel and Starhub are ripping huge profits. Singapore's mobile and ISP is a way lucrative market more than European and Austrialian ISPs.
In fact, each additional telco bring in additional competition.
For example,
M1 always try to be the most affordable. They always try to play with "unlimited" plans.
Viewquest integrates VPN into their internet services at one of the lower prices.
Starhub is the one that introduced per second billing when they enter the market years ago. It only become a norm after many years.

If there are no competition, we will still be bound to Singtel. Even now, Singtel is usually the latest to come out with their promotions. They usually "react" instead of "act. For example, they are the last to allow 5 subscribers in mobile phone plan discounts. M1 provide bundled discounts up to 5 subscribers first, starhub follow suit, then Singtel about 1year++ later.
That is probably why our gov't want to bring in the 4th telco.

TPG will probably have a hard time. Many of the network infrastructure, they will have to rent from Singtel first before they can built their own....

TPG will have to change and adapt to Singapore's environment. Hope they can bring in some disruptive changes that is beneficial to consumers. :)


that's why we need to vote WP to keep PAP working hard!!
 

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Hahaha giving more data basically encourages higher usage for most people, which leads to congestion in the limited data pipe, hence speed issues.

You are basically saying that we should be like SingTel in the past, giving 12GB per plan but making it unusable during off peak hours at orchard road.

I think is how Local telco design their network. The design for the 3G network was lousy. It design before Iphone 3G and smartphone arrived Singapore. It was never planned or made to have thousand of people connecting to the network for Data.

They learn the lesson and spend more $$ on 4G infra which they decided to increase the data for 4G so that they can recover the setup cost back. (That my personal view). Now they are are selling upsize data plan to make money before TPG coming out some crazy data to kill them.

Take a look at other countries like Thailand, HK and Tw. they have more users and hardly you face slow down on their 3/4G network. So I felt like this is a design issue in SG telco.
 

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I think is how Local telco design their network. The design for the 3G network was lousy. It design before Iphone 3G and smartphone arrived Singapore. It was never planned or made to have thousand of people connecting to the network for Data.

They learn the lesson and spend more $$ on 4G infra which they decided to increase the data for 4G so that they can recover the setup cost back. (That my personal view). Now they are are selling upsize data plan to make money before TPG coming out some crazy data to kill them.

Take a look at other countries like Thailand, HK and Tw. they have more users and hardly you face slow down on their 3/4G network. So I felt like this is a design issue in SG telco.


Japan, HK, Korea all I went before..


All have more population than Singapore..


All have better 3G/4G that SG.


But really. 4G feels a lot better now. No issues faced compared to the 3G era.. And with 2G spectrum shutting down soon, its more going into 3G/4G too.
 
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