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Old 25-01-2006, 07:47 PM   #31
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Japanese Association at Lornie Rd has Jap language classes too. Anyone tried?
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Old 26-01-2006, 11:10 AM   #32
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In reference to ender51244 on the case of Keigo. Personally, it might appear freigtening since one has to learn another formal form of japanese. But in my experience in dealing with japanese, keigo is used more on emails and documentation. Speech wise, keigo was kept to the minimal. In fact, my boss (a japanese) once remind me not to be too polite in case it is mistaken as 慇懃無礼inginburei which translate to hyprocritical formality....haha it's important to strike a balance. And yes, japanese can be a rather difficult lesson to being with at the start. I always describe it as a concave curve. The difficulty keeps on increasing to a peak, and once u cross that peak, u will find it a whole lot easier.
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Old 26-01-2006, 03:32 PM   #33
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agreed.

keigo, may not be used so much on the office, but when you speak to clients, you will need to use it right ? and in Japan, keigo is everywhere. in the trains, at the malls and so on. it is confusing to learn but ... it is a necessity to do so. and somehow there's 3 forms of keigo. which makes things worse. ><'''
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Old 26-01-2006, 05:01 PM   #34
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agreed.

keigo, may not be used so much on the office, but when you speak to clients, you will need to use it right ? and in Japan, keigo is everywhere. in the trains, at the malls and so on. it is confusing to learn but ... it is a necessity to do so. and somehow there's 3 forms of keigo. which makes things worse. ><'''
haha but do not be burdened by the confusion. It is already confusing enough at the start when one starts to learn all the basics. Just get a solid foundation, have passion for the language, then worry about keigo later. As time goes by, with some getting use to it, you may start to enjoy it more than just a burden. Learn to walk b4 worry about running.
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Old 26-01-2006, 06:53 PM   #35
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lol. thanks for the advice. i'm half-way through my jcs course... still managing pretty okay. though i have alot of catch up on keigo, demo atashi wa kanarazu ganbarimasu. =)
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Old 30-01-2006, 02:06 PM   #36
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any where in the central for secondary students anot ? play com til sian already wanna try somthing new .. charges and date ?
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:37 PM   #37
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which course are you in ?

hi, which course are you in ?

elementary ?

wanted to join the elementary for the normal course which is 1 year but i will miss 4 lessons and have reservist in feb and march, will miss more lessons, so decided to sign up for the intensive elementary course in june, and in the meantime, will try to be very disciplined to memorise my hiragana and katakana so that i can improve faster till the JCS course start

by the way, does anyone know how much are the courses at JCS and is it true that if you miss a lesson, there is no make up ?



lol. thanks for the advice. i'm half-way through my jcs course... still managing pretty okay. though i have alot of catch up on keigo, demo atashi wa kanarazu ganbarimasu. =)
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Old 14-02-2006, 11:22 AM   #38
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I'm currently having lessons at Bunka, I see they focus more on grammar and speech. Will probably make up for what they lack with some self study.

IMO the best and all rounded Japanese lessons should be from MOE language centre. It's free too! Unfortunately it's not a public school and I regretted quiting few years ago. Can't go back there now.
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Old 16-02-2006, 11:32 AM   #39
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hi, which course are you in ?

elementary ?

wanted to join the elementary for the normal course which is 1 year but i will miss 4 lessons and have reservist in feb and march, will miss more lessons, so decided to sign up for the intensive elementary course in june, and in the meantime, will try to be very disciplined to memorise my hiragana and katakana so that i can improve faster till the JCS course start

by the way, does anyone know how much are the courses at JCS and is it true that if you miss a lesson, there is no make up ?
i'm in advanced classes now.

for JCS courses, there is a price increase as you move up the levels and you can split the payment and pay part of the school fees first. or you can pay the whole year's school fees in full through your one time registration. but i would suggest you to split up the school fees because if you feel like quitting, at least you will just lost that 3 month's school fees. its not an offence to you or anything, it is just that throughout my schooling years in JCS, i have seen the classes emptying out by more than half by the end of the year.

Since its your first time there, you have to pay for the registration fee, textbook and school fees. i think it is around 200 to 250 (sorry can't remember the price). but the subsequent 2 payments are less than 200 for the first year. so all in all, you will pay less than 600 for the first year.

make-up lessons are possible, provided you write a letter to the principal early, stating your reason of absence for the particular date and would like to make up at another class. There are even make-up exams, meaning that if you can't make it on the allocated exam time slot given to you, you can write a letter to request for a change of examination date / time.

JCS enforces strict discipline. if you are absent for 3 lessons (written on a piece of paper given to you on your first lesson) without a valid reason, you are barred from taking classes/exam. but there's a loophole involved. so if you are absent, you can write a letter explaining your reason of absence, and they will treat it as you taking "leave". but its better not to do that so often, otherwise you won't be able to catch up.

JCS elementary classes are rather simple. for the first few weeks you will learn hiragana (you will only learn katakana in the next level) and the teachers undstand that students don't exactly revise, so they will do a mini revision first, before continuing with lessons.

most students would find it easy for the first few weeks, and stayed in that stage. but as weeks progress on, lessons become harder and people find it difficult to catch up (based on students doing NO or LITTLE revision each week) as they have gotten used to the easy stage. Japanese is hard because the grammar, sentence structure is different from english and chinese. Most Japanese words changes forms when dealing with expressions and their particles and action words are different from the languages we learn here. for example, there are 15 different Japanese form changes while there are only 4 form changes in English.

well when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Patience and hard work are just some of the key factors to studying Japanese.
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Old 16-02-2006, 11:40 AM   #40
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eh heguhegu,

is that the BLACK CAT anime you are watching ? *points to the avatar*
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Old 22-02-2006, 05:20 PM   #41
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lol. thanks for the advice. i'm half-way through my jcs course... still managing pretty okay. though i have alot of catch up on keigo, demo atashi wa kanarazu ganbarimasu. =)
ot a bit.....atashi tte.....kimi jousei? haha
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Old 23-02-2006, 10:40 AM   #42
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nanda ? dame nan no ? *fufufufufu*
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Old 23-02-2006, 11:53 AM   #43
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いや.別にはは hahaha
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Old 25-02-2006, 09:10 AM   #44
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とにかく、皆さん日本語を勉強頑強して下さい !!!
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Old 26-02-2006, 12:51 AM   #45
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eh heguhegu,

is that the BLACK CAT anime you are watching ? *points to the avatar*
yup!......
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