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Old 09-09-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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Honda FIT RS

hi guys,..anyway driving a FIT RS...can any wan share more on the different btw FIT and FIT RS..in terms of performance and FC....and is it worth tat price?

cos if for 70K might as well get a version R..tat is more powerful..

correct me if i am wrong


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Old 10-09-2009, 12:48 AM   #2
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Fit is 1.3 SOHC i-VTEC
Fit RS is 1.5 SOHC i-VTEC

Fit has about 98bhp
Fit RS has about 120bhp

Fit has only AT (CVT) and no paddle shifter
Fit RS comes in MT and AT (CVT paddle shifter)

Fit has front disc brakes and rear drum brakes
Fit RS has 4 disc brakes, all sides

You're buying a Honda, naturally you're paying for quality and the brand, hence why it's expensive.

CVR cheaper. I don't know... to me 1.5 TC the engine may not last long.

Depends what you want. Fit/Fit RS has handling while CVR can blast away on the straights.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:22 PM   #3
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Fit is 1.3 SOHC i-VTEC
Fit RS is 1.5 SOHC i-VTEC

Fit has about 98bhp
Fit RS has about 120bhp

Fit has only AT (CVT) and no paddle shifter
Fit RS comes in MT and AT (CVT paddle shifter)

Fit has front disc brakes and rear drum brakes
Fit RS has 4 disc brakes, all sides

You're buying a Honda, naturally you're paying for quality and the brand, hence why it's expensive.

CVR cheaper. I don't know... to me 1.5 TC the engine may not last long.

Depends what you want. Fit/Fit RS has handling while CVR can blast away on the straights.

something is not right ...
FIT RS has 2 front disc brake .... and rear drum brakes ...
unless u upgrade to the S version ...
den u will get HID lights factory default and 4 disc brake ...
if not .. it is normal H4 lights ... with 2 front disc brake and 2 rear drum brakes
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:53 PM   #4
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My bad for not making it clear. I was referring to the manual version for the 4 disc brakes.

Forgot to include the S-Package and the normal AT one. I've got a friend driving the MT version, that's why.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:19 PM   #5
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Fit in terms of pickup slower, but for RS is faster and RS driver seat comes with armrest.

The structure of the air intake for fit is a mistake so if u needs more responsive u will needs to change to aftermake cold air-intake or the air intake hose.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:41 AM   #6
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The structure of the air intake for fit is a mistake so if u needs more responsive u will needs to change to aftermake cold air-intake or the air intake hose.
I beg to differ.

If you actually look at the setup of the engine bay of the Fit, it's rather cramped, hence giving the impression that there is the lack of space for air to circulate into the intake.

However, Honda engineers are pretty smart. Given the lack of room in the engine bay for the air intake to work properly, they decided to mount a small plastic air scoop underneath the bonnet, on the top right side. This air scoop will then channel air directly to where the air intake is mounted, on the aft right side of the engine bay.

This in a sense, works as a semi-open pod already. IMO people who change to aftermarket open pods or CAI are asking for trouble, especially in the low rev range, given that open pod or CAI setups on AT cars are already a big NO NO.

If need be, just change the stock air filter in the stock airbox to aftermarket ones. Don't bother modding anything to do with CAIs or open pods for AT cars. You'll lose your low end terribly.

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------------------ Two vent holes above here ^ ^


----------------------------------------------------------------------- The air scoop above here ^

Note that in these pictures on the front right side of the engine bay (1st picture), the front grille has two vent holes, while the left side has none. These vent holes exist to channel incoming air into the air scoop underneath the bonnet when closed (2nd picture, the black 'box' on the right side), and the air goes towards the aft right side of the engine bay, just behind the battery, where your air intake hose is located.

Honda is smart. No point changing to an CAI or Open Pod setup and lose low end because your ECU is not tweaked to take advantage of the extra air.
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Old 13-09-2009, 01:01 AM   #7
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I beg to differ.

If you actually look at the setup of the engine bay of the Fit, it's rather cramped, hence giving the impression that there is the lack of space for air to circulate into the intake.

However, Honda engineers are pretty smart. Given the lack of room in the engine bay for the air intake to work properly, they decided to mount a small plastic air scoop underneath the bonnet, on the top right side. This air scoop will then channel air directly to where the air intake is mounted, on the aft right side of the engine bay.

This in a sense, works as a semi-open pod already. IMO people who change to aftermarket open pods or CAI are asking for trouble, especially in the low rev range, given that open pod or CAI setups on AT cars are already a big NO NO.

If need be, just change the stock air filter in the stock airbox to aftermarket ones. Don't bother modding anything to do with CAIs or open pods for AT cars. You'll lose your low end terribly.

ADDED:


------------------ Two vent holes above here ^ ^


----------------------------------------------------------------------- The air scoop above here ^

Note that in these pictures on the front right side of the engine bay (1st picture), the front grille has two vent holes, while the left side has none. These vent holes exist to channel incoming air into the air scoop underneath the bonnet when closed (2nd picture, the black 'box' on the right side), and the air goes towards the aft right side of the engine bay, just behind the battery, where your air intake hose is located.

Honda is smart. No point changing to an CAI or Open Pod setup and lose low end because your ECU is not tweaked to take advantage of the extra air.
u need to read up more in CAI...FJC is a good forum.. all info are there.. and all those are feedbacks from owners who had spend or waste much money into intake setup ranging from open-pod to semi to CAI or open-pod with CAI..

one thing i am sure is CAI will not affect pickup whether its manual or auto... it's on my brother-in-law GE6 (CVT) and mine 4G City (CVT)
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Old 13-09-2009, 01:34 AM   #8
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No doubt aftermarket air filters are good. I'm just sharing on the benefits and the ingenuity that Honda engineers have already provided.

After all, TS has not mentioned if he plans to 'zhng' his car. I'm just sharing what I know about the stock Honda parts and the already given benefits.

There are many conflicting theories regarding CAI or open pods. If I must say, visit Kinokuniya at Takashimaya and take a look at the Japanese tuner magazine 'Option' or if avail for the Honda Fit, the 'Hyper Rev' magazine to understand more.

Take note of the air intake setups described inside, especially open pod. It is not just 'plug & play'. It is more to that than just installing and getting increased butt-dyno. There are also many factors hidden from plain sight to get real advantage of the CAI or open pods.

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Old 14-09-2009, 01:04 AM   #9
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No doubt aftermarket air filters are good. I'm just sharing on the benefits and the ingenuity that Honda engineers have already provided.

After all, TS has not mentioned if he plans to 'zhng' his car. I'm just sharing what I know about the stock Honda parts and the already given benefits.

There are many conflicting theories regarding CAI or open pods. If I must say, visit Kinokuniya at Takashimaya and take a look at the Japanese tuner magazine 'Option' or if avail for the Honda Fit, the 'Hyper Rev' magazine to understand more.

Take note of the air intake setups described inside, especially open pod. It is not just 'plug & play'. It is more to that than just installing and getting increased butt-dyno. There are also many factors hidden from plain sight to get real advantage of the CAI or open pods.

Cheers.
mag is another channel which u can dig info from.. do bear in mind most of the mag are adverts which are meant to promo the product. Just take those info as a pinch of salt.. nothing beats from personal reviews and personal experiences...

I do agree with u that honda or car manufacturers, are way better than us (buyer) as the cars are built by them... As long as u do minor mods, no extensive changes to your engine... like cam shaft/pistons.... u are 'ok'...

Every driver mod with their own needs and requirements... some prefer high-end, some wan his car to be more torquery or better in mid end... it's entirely up to individual...
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Old 14-09-2009, 01:20 AM   #10
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Bro, you should try reading 'Option'. Though fully in Japanese, the information I'm referring to here inside the magazine are tuner reviews, not adverts like you mentioned unfortunately.

Cannot compare 'Option' with 'Hot Stuff'. Impossible to compare, one is heaven the other one is earth.

In 'Option', there are plenty of reviews by various drivers such as Keiichi Tsuchiya, Nobuteru Taniguchi and so forth. These drivers drive the many tuned cars such as Honda's Spoon, J's Racing, Top Fuel, etc... they give very frank opinions on how these tuned cars feel compared to against another tuner brand.

They also give the editorial comments on why the tuner bosses decide on their various setups to get their desired results. In this, there is a lot about why it is important to fully understand that Open Pod/CAI is not desirable in certain conditions.

HyperRev for each car is lagi more 'biblical'. It explains from head to toe, the host of aftermarket parts, and the various tuners that tune and creat PURELY for each particular car that HyperRev creates a volume about. Likewise with 'Option', both are purely Japanese books and have illustrations and reviews on the various tuned cars, for in this case, purely Honda Fit.

There is no fear with doing any extensive modding at all. Provided that your car is in the right set of hands and the usage of replicas are minimised.

For example, if you want to tweak your air intake to open pod, do bear in mind while you do have a large amount of air going into your intake, is your fuel injectors capable of doing the same? No point having more air while the amount of fuel being injected remains the same.

Then this brings more factors into mind, fuel rail? Fuel pump? ECU?

Hope you understand what I'm talking about.

Anyways, we're going way OFT. Back to TS and his personal decision whether he wants to get a Fit or Fit RS.

Cheers.
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Old 14-09-2009, 02:38 AM   #11
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Bro, you should try reading 'Option'. Though fully in Japanese, the information I'm referring to here inside the magazine are tuner reviews, not adverts like you mentioned unfortunately.

Cannot compare 'Option' with 'Hot Stuff'. Impossible to compare, one is heaven the other one is earth.

In 'Option', there are plenty of reviews by various drivers such as Keiichi Tsuchiya, Nobuteru Taniguchi and so forth. These drivers drive the many tuned cars such as Honda's Spoon, J's Racing, Top Fuel, etc... they give very frank opinions on how these tuned cars feel compared to against another tuner brand.

They also give the editorial comments on why the tuner bosses decide on their various setups to get their desired results. In this, there is a lot about why it is important to fully understand that Open Pod/CAI is not desirable in certain conditions.

HyperRev for each car is lagi more 'biblical'. It explains from head to toe, the host of aftermarket parts, and the various tuners that tune and creat PURELY for each particular car that HyperRev creates a volume about. Likewise with 'Option', both are purely Japanese books and have illustrations and reviews on the various tuned cars, for in this case, purely Honda Fit.

There is no fear with doing any extensive modding at all. Provided that your car is in the right set of hands and the usage of replicas are minimised.

For example, if you want to tweak your air intake to open pod, do bear in mind while you do have a large amount of air going into your intake, is your fuel injectors capable of doing the same? No point having more air while the amount of fuel being injected remains the same.

Then this brings more factors into mind, fuel rail? Fuel pump? ECU?

Hope you understand what I'm talking about.

Anyways, we're going way OFT. Back to TS and his personal decision whether he wants to get a Fit or Fit RS.

Cheers.
in jap huh?? 4get it..

i dont mind get my hand on those 1 or 2 books...just for reading purposes...

Of crs i trust those tuning wkshops.. i'm a J's racing fan, and have couple of stuffs inside... For me.. light mods nia... nothing more..

Anyway, L15 series is never a engine to start off... they usually tune the K series

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Old 14-09-2009, 06:04 AM   #12
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in jap huh?? 4get it..

i dont mind get my hand on those 1 or 2 books...just for reading purposes...

Of crs i trust those tuning wkshops.. i'm a J's racing fan, and have couple of stuffs inside... For me.. light mods nia... nothing more..

Anyway, L15 series is never a engine to start off... they usually tune the K series
The legendary B Series is sooo much better...
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oh. i just recently sat in a B20 ek9.

simply lovely.
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oh. i just recently sat in a B20 ek9.

simply lovely.
ek9 is rare in SG..
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