Universities Ranking for 2009

[callingmedog]

2009 World Rank School Name Country Overall Score

1 HARVARD University United States 100.0
2 University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom 99.6
3 YALE University United States 99.1
4 UCL (University College London) United Kingdom 99.0
5= IMPERIAL College London United Kingdom 97.8
5= University of OXFORD United Kingdom 97.8
7 University of CHICAGO United States 96.8
8 PRINCETON University United States 96.6
9 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M... United States 96.1
10 California Institute of Technology (CALT... United States 95.9
11 COLUMBIA University United States 95.6
12 University of PENNSYLVANIA United States 94.2
13 JOHNS HOPKINS University United States 94.1
14 DUKE University United States 92.9
15 CORNELL University United States 92.5
16 STANFORD University United States 92.2
17 AUSTRALIAN National University Australia 90.5
18 MCGILL University Canada 90.4
19 University of MICHIGAN United States 89.9
20= University of EDINBURGH United Kingdom 89.3
20= ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of T... Switzerland 89.3
22 University of TOKYO Japan 88.9
23 KING'S College London United Kingdom 88.5
24 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong 87.5
25 KYOTO University Japan 87.1
26 University of MANCHESTER United Kingdom 85.7
27 CARNEGIE MELLON University United States 85.6
28 Ecole normale supérieure, PARIS France 85.4
29 University of TORONTO Canada 85.3
30 National University of Singapore (NUS) Singapore 84.3
31 BROWN University United States 84.0
32= University of California, Los Angeles (U... United States 83.5
32= NORTHWESTERN University United States 83.5
34 University of BRISTOL United Kingdom 83.4
35 HONG KONG University of Science and Tech... Hong Kong 83.3
36= University of SYDNEY Australia 83.1
36= ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE France 83.1
36= University of MELBOURNE Australia 83.1
39 University of California, BERKELEY United States 82.7
40 University of BRITISH COLUMBIA Canada 81.2
41 University of QUEENSLAND Australia 80.7
42 Ecole Polytechnique Frale de LAUSA... Switzerland 80.6
43= TRINITY College Dublin Ireland 80.1
43= OSAKA University Japan 80.1
45 MONASH University Australia 80.0
46 The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 79.6
47= SEOUL National University Korea, South 79.0
47= University of NEW SOUTH WALES Australia 79.0
49= University of AMSTERDAM Netherlands 78.9
49= TSINGHUA University China 78.9
51 University of COPENHAGEN Denmark 78.8
52= PEKING University China 78.4
52= NEW YORK University (NYU) United States 78.4
54 BOSTON University United States 77.8
55= TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan 76.3
55= Technische Universitaet Muenchen Germany 76.3
57 HEIDELBERG University Germany 76.2
58 University of WARWICK United Kingdom 75.7
59 University of ALBERTA Canada 75.4
60 LEIDEN University Netherlands 75.3
61= The University of AUCKLAND New Zealand 74.7
61= University of Wisconsin-Madison United States 74.7
63= AARHUS University Denmark 74.5
63= University of ILLINOIS, Chicago (UIC) United States 74.5
65 Katholieke Universiteit LEUVEN Belgium 74.2
66 University of BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom 73.9
67= LUND University Sweden 73.7
67= London School of Economics and Political... United Kingdom 73.7
69 KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Scie... Korea, South 72.6
70= University of YORK United Kingdom 72.4
70= UTRECHT University Netherlands 72.4
72 University of GENEVA Switzerland 72.3
73= Nanyang Technological University (NTU) Singapore 72.0
73= WASHINGTON University in St. Louis United States 72.0
75 UPPSALA University Sweden 71.9
76= University of TEXAS at Austin United States 71.5
76= University of CALIFORNIA, San Diego United States 71.5
78 University of NORTH CAROLINA, Chapel Hil... United States 71.3
79 University of GLASGOW United Kingdom 71.2
80 University of WASHINGTON United States 71.1
81 University of ADELAIDE Australia 70.8
82 University of SHEFFIELD United Kingdom 70.6
83 DELFT University of Technology Netherlands 70.5
84 University of WESTERN AUSTRALIA Australia 70.3
85 DARTMOUTH College United States 70.1
86 GEORGIA Institute of Technology United States 70.0
87= PURDUE University United States 69.8
87= University of ST ANDREWS United Kingdom 69.8
89 University College DUBLIN Ireland 69.7
90 EMORY University United States 69.6
91 University of NOTTINGHAM United Kingdom 69.4
92= University of ZURICH Switzerland 69.2
92= NAGOYA University Japan 69.2
94 Freie Universitaet BERLIN Germany 69.0
95= University of SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom 68.9
95= National Taiwan University (NTU) Taiwan 68.9
97 TOHOKU University Japan 68.6
98 Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München... Germany 68.4
99 University of LEEDS United Kingdom 68.3
100 RICE University United States 68.1

http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...rsity-rankings

[bfarty]

nus winning ucb

[yodatan]

NUS, university of melbourne/queensland better than warwick and LSE?

[patryn33]

already have thread helping ppl to go Ivy League Uni..
if Uni like DARTMOUTH an ivy ranked so low.. perhaps a ivy league degree isn't that hard to get.
seem like every GO8 uni is better than that low ranking Ivy Uni.
why go UWA to do DL, when one can go Dartmouth and seek for need blind aid!

[bigrockshow]

*sniff sniff* no murdoch uni *sobz*

[raz0r032582]

any1 got any idea on the top 500 univs?

[patryn33]

Originally Posted by yodatan

NUS, university of melbourne/queensland better than warwick and LSE?

according to the method... ya better!

http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...imple-overview

Academic Peer Review Composite score drawn from peer review survey (which is divided into five subject areas). 9,386 responses in 2009. 40%

Employer Review Score based on responses to employer survey. 3,281 responses in 2009. 10%

Faculty Student Ratio Score based on student faculty ratio 20%

Citations per Faculty Score based on research performance factored against the size of the research body 20%

International Faculty Score based on proportion of international faculty 5%

International Students Score based on proportion of international students 5%

[yodatan]

Originally Posted by patryn33

according to the method... ya better!

http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...imple-overview

u know, the way they write what ratio score here ratio score there makes it sound so cheem... i went to read the page in detail...

personally ah, i feel the employer review should be higher or at least equal to academic peer review what, afterall we are looking at employability of graduates also wad right.

then they themselves say this:

"student facultyStudent Faculty Ratio is, at present, the only globally comparable and available indicator that has been identified to address the stated objective of evaluating teaching quality. Clearly it is not a satisfactory as a qualitative classroom evaluation as might be considered for a domestic teaching assessment, but it does speak to the notion of "commitment to teaching", which ought to correlate strongly, if not compltely with the level of teaching quality."

then they go on to give it 20% weighting, same as citations per faculty (which i feel is a meaningful measure).

then the international students part also like dun make sense lei, we all know international students get into universities easier everywhere because they pay higher school fees, no?


no wonder people always say to take the rankings with a pinch of salt!!! i think generally we shouldn't be following these rankings too closely... as evidenced by NUS/university of melbourne/queensland being higher than LSE or warwick. does anybody really think they are better?? at most on par ba...

Originally Posted by raz0r032582

any1 got any idea on the top 500 univs?

i think they only rated the top 200 for 2009... they havent rate the next 300 yet. but u can see 2008's one though

[lovechiogirl]

U of T got up pretty much

[mozzie]

Originally Posted by lovechiogirl

U of T got up pretty much

this is probably Australian biased! ALL 8 Unis from Aussies' Group of 8 in the top 100?!?

UofMel, ANU and Uof Syd = Top 100, Yes
UWA, UNSW, U Monash, UAde, UQ = Top 100, questionable, doubtful. Perhaps100+ ranked

[Petrelli_83]

My 2 centst worth, ths obsession with university rankings is going a bit too far. True, you can be from cambridge, but you'll still be a salaried employee. The richest people didn't climb to the top with a top class degree. Many lessons can be learned from the girl tammy, who opened a blogshop and progressed to own 2 physical shops and she's already taking in 8-13k a month at the age of 17, all that while still schooling.

Instead of wasting all that money on trying to get a top degree so you can go back to being another salaried worker with no guarantee that the top class degree will pay good dividends, why not put all that energy and money to more meaningful things?

I know this sounds like the ranting from someone who's eating sour grapes because he didn't make it to an "elite" university, but i honestly think too many Singaporeans are joining in the paper chase with unrealistic expectations of whatever that will come out of it. This obsession with university rankings is really incomprehensible.

[suminotro]

You don't make any sense. Just because "the richest people" did not depend on educational degrees to make it to the top means we should not care about which university we go to? Why don't you just tell everyone not to bother with university education then? Obviously you can't, because you got a degree yourself. What a hypocrite.

Nobody here is trying to be "the richest people". Ask around. Are we all trying to be some revolutionary entrepreneur? No, most of us are aiming for salaried jobs. There are many different kinds of salaried jobs, with vastly different pay. A janitor is salaried. So is a top executive in a multinational. You stupidly frame all salaried jobs as second-class and automatically undesirable compared to being "the richest people", and from there dismiss the value and advantage of going to elite institutions. Yes, going to Cambridge is no guarantee of making it to the very top, but going to Cambridge WILL give you a higher-paying salaried job than going to some unknown university. Just because you can't be No.1 doesn't mean you don't try to be No. 100 instead of No. 1000000.

No wonder you didn't make it to an elite university.

[Petrelli_83]

Yo bro, cool it man. I have never said a degree is not important, and i have never said one should just go to any university. ANd most importantly, i have never said a salaried job is a second class occupation. what i really meant was a lot of people cannot find satisfaction in a 9-5 salaried job. How many of you can tell me they wake up each morning eagerly anticipating going to work? And before u apply to that big gun university, have u truly considered your end goals? Why put words in my mouth? And is that a need to resort to using personal attacks to add weight to your argument?

If you've miscontrued my meaning, feel free to clarify. Making personal attacks and quoting your own inferences as my statements serves to benefit no one.

[acanthophis]

Originally Posted by mozzie

this is probably Australian biased! ALL 8 Unis from Aussies' Group of 8 in the top 100?!?

UofMel, ANU and Uof Syd = Top 100, Yes
UWA, UNSW, U Monash, UAde, UQ = Top 100, questionable, doubtful. Perhaps100+ ranked

Nope. Go8 research publication track records. UQ = part of interuniversity effort for cervical vaccine. There are many international research collaborations going on between those universities. WHO is involved in some research with them....

And what has NUS and NTU inspired internationally lately? Nothing. I don't see them popping up much in HIGH IMPACT refereed journals (only alot in ****ty ones which I can't even use) ..... even Hongkong and Taiwanese universities pops up in my area of public health more than NUS ... oh the shame of it all. I was thinking Singapore is so advanced BUT they have not published anything other than ...what? SARS? overdone... of course , I am speaking in terms of my area.

NUS in no. 30 ...ok lah ...take it as a compliment . NTU in the top 100 is a big freaking joke when it has limited faculties.

And let's talk about potential bias here...slot in international high impact refereed journals and watch the rankings roll. THEN we talk. I can publish crap under faculty name and still count it towards citation ...easily skewed. Which student or lecturer likes to complain about the university when even in Singapore voters can be tracked via voting paper? LOL ....maybe 1 or 2 but definitely not the majority.

[acanthophis]

Originally Posted by suminotro

You don't make any sense. Just because "the richest people" did not depend on educational degrees to make it to the top means we should not care about which university we go to? Why don't you just tell everyone not to bother with university education then? Obviously you can't, because you got a degree yourself. What a hypocrite.

Nobody here is trying to be "the richest people". Ask around. Are we all trying to be some revolutionary entrepreneur? No, most of us are aiming for salaried jobs. There are many different kinds of salaried jobs, with vastly different pay. A janitor is salaried. So is a top executive in a multinational. You stupidly frame all salaried jobs as second-class and automatically undesirable compared to being "the richest people", and from there dismiss the value and advantage of going to elite institutions. Yes, going to Cambridge is no guarantee of making it to the very top, but going to Cambridge WILL give you a higher-paying salaried job than going to some unknown university. Just because you can't be No.1 doesn't mean you don't try to be No. 100 instead of No. 1000000.

No wonder you didn't make it to an elite university.

Going to an unknown university and getting a higher salaried job .....now that requires entrepreneurship and some originality...something sorely lacking in the rote learning system of Singapore. When there are 'learning modules' called teaching 'creative thinking' and 'how to date' , you know something is wrong with the system.

Who say you need to be No. 100 just because you are from an unknown university.....No.1 universities will confer all sorts of honorary crap degrees on you if you get as rich as Bill Gates , Rupert Murdoch etc...

Moral of the story: Money talks. Degrees don't.