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Old 18-04-2016, 09:03 PM   #31
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Hmm I couldn't see but I assume it's US stock? It's not a bad deal and given it can charge with normal USB-C chargers, it's decent... but a lot of the reviews have not necessarily painted it in great light other than for the great AMOLED screen. I'm surprised there's no MicroSD expansion nor any other ports which I guess makes it more comparable to an iPad rather than a Surface Pro.

I am interested as it would make a great computer to give the missus... and it's more powerful than my previous Surface 3. Viewing angles sound a bit funny though.
It's from Hong Kong. I think the key thing about this is the OLED screen and being able to use it as a tablet. Otherwise, Samsung Notebook 9 is a better choice with better i5 processor, bigger 13.3 inch screen, higher 256GB SSD & 8 GB RAM, better keyboard, lighter weight (840g) and the various ports (USB, Micro HDMI, SD Card). But will need to get from overseas as not available locally.
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Old 24-04-2016, 10:18 PM   #32
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S$1700? That's a joke. Even compared to buying in Australia at A$1499 RRP before negotiation (S$1526) and you get the GST back when leaving the country. Hard pressed to choose this over the SP4 now where in Australia the M3 version is A$1349. Yes the keyboard isn't included but I think once you add it in, they're the same price anyway so there's negligible savings (if any) offered by going Samsung.

Edit: didn't realise SG model is the LTE one but still seems pretty pricey.
I'm guessing the release of the LTE only version in Singapore (and at close to $1,700) is just a marketing move.... because with the release of the LTE version only, Samsung will be able to work and bundle with telco partners for promotions.

Telcos normally bundle free laptops / tablet with fibre broadband subscription during mid of the year promotions (somewhere around the PC show timing), and when it's pricey out in the market, telcos are more able to convince consumers they're getting a darn good deal when they sign up for 2 years fibre broadband contract. Either Singtel / Starhub is probably already negotiating the deal as we speak.

Otherwise, I just can't fathom any other reasons as to how many sets of Tab Pro S did Samsung expect to sell in Singapore at $1,700 within the 1st 12 months of launch...

But it's just a prediction, don't flame me if it doesn't materialize.

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Old 27-04-2016, 12:27 AM   #33
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I'm guessing the release of the LTE only version in Singapore (and at close to $1,700) is just a marketing move.... because with the release of the LTE version only, Samsung will be able to work and bundle with telco partners for promotions.

Telcos normally bundle free laptops / tablet with fibre broadband subscription during mid of the year promotions (somewhere around the PC show timing), and when it's pricey out in the market, telcos are more able to convince consumers they're getting a darn good deal when they sign up for 2 years fibre broadband contract. Either Singtel / Starhub is probably already negotiating the deal as we speak.

Otherwise, I just can't fathom any other reasons as to how many sets of Tab Pro S did Samsung expect to sell in Singapore at $1,700 within the 1st 12 months of launch...

But it's just a prediction, don't flame me if it doesn't materialize.

Yes, too pricy for a tablet while too low specs & too few ports for a notebook.
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Old 27-04-2016, 09:16 PM   #34
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It's on display at Samsung stores, Challenger, and Best Denki.

Nice build quality, more compact than the SP4 but it does have a slightly smaller display, and very light without the keyboard attached. No pen on display sadly.

And yes, S$1698 (LTE version only available)!!! No way I'm paying that for this. It's ridiculous pricing compared to US, even taking into account tax and LTE.

Hopefully available from other street stores at a lower price like their Android devices.
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Old 28-04-2016, 11:18 PM   #35
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Shopping around today. Noticed that, for the same money, you can get the Lenovo Miix 700 with Core m5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 2 USB ports, MicroSD slot, and includes the keyboard and pen!

Looks and feels really nice as well, just a little larger in all dimensions.

Hoping the Huawei Matebook is out soon to compare.
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Old 29-04-2016, 12:40 AM   #36
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Shopping around today. Noticed that, for the same money, you can get the Lenovo Miix 700 with Core m5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 2 USB ports, MicroSD slot, and includes the keyboard and pen!

Looks and feels really nice as well, just a little larger in all dimensions.

Hoping the Huawei Matebook is out soon to compare.
Speaking of price comparison, imagine getting 2 Acer Switch Alpha 12 Surface clone with i3 / i5 processor for the price of 1 Samsung Tab Pro S.... It's using a so-called liquid cooling loop so it's able to use the usual Intel i3 / i5 / i7 processor instead of Core M without any fans, I'm looking to see the reviews from Cnet / Engadget first because the verdict is still out on whether this so-called "loop cooling technology" is a decade old technology given a marketing twist with a brand new name, or really new innovation and able to keep the CPU cool as they said it would. Price for Acer Switch Alpha 12 starts at USD$599 (probably for the i3 version)
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It's on display at Samsung stores, Challenger, and Best Denki.

Nice build quality, more compact than the SP4 but it does have a slightly smaller display, and very light without the keyboard attached. No pen on display sadly.

And yes, S$1698 (LTE version only available)!!! No way I'm paying that for this. It's ridiculous pricing compared to US, even taking into account tax and LTE.

Hopefully available from other street stores at a lower price like their Android devices.
Its just too expensive
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Old 30-04-2016, 02:38 PM   #38
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Its just too expensive
They are giving away a USB-C multiport adaptor (to USB & HDMI) and a one year Microsoft Office 365 personal subscription worth $236.

I think it's expensive because of the OLED screen, probably first Windows tablet/notebook with OLED screen. Without a USB port or SD card slot, very inconvenient to be used as a notebook, especially with just 128GB SSD onboard. Hence, better to be used as a tablet.

The 12 inch screen aspect ratio is 3:2 instead of 16:9. Hence, the height is actually longer than a 13.3 inch 16:9 laptop. Hence, not too bad, compared to a 13.3 inch for browsing.
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They are giving away a USB-C multiport adaptor (to USB & HDMI) and a one year Microsoft Office 365 personal subscription worth $236.

I think it's expensive because of the OLED screen, probably first Windows tablet/notebook with OLED screen. Without a USB port or SD card slot, very inconvenient to be used as a notebook, especially with just 128GB SSD onboard. Hence, better to be used as a tablet.

The 12 inch screen aspect ratio is 3:2 instead of 16:9. Hence, the height is actually longer than a 13.3 inch 16:9 laptop. Hence, not too bad, compared to a 13.3 inch for browsing.
Must admit, the OLED display is really nice but not that much better than the best quality IPS panels to justify the price hike. It just isn't good value for money for the specs you are getting.

The SP4 is better value, and the Lenovo and Acer are even better yet.

I like the 3:2 ratio, nice compromise for media consumption and productivity. Personally, I feel 12" is a little too large for a tablet but just right for a laptop. I would have preferred 10" but I guess the tech isn't quite there yet to fit Core m chips into that size.

Think I'll wait for the Huawei Matebook as that is even more compact than this and hopefully should be cheaper and has more configurations. Unless the TabPro S becomes available for $300 less.

Street price for Samsung Android phones and tablets always around $200 cheaper than RRP but for some reason their Windows devices are never available from other sources.
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Old 30-04-2016, 03:29 PM   #40
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Telco price released and it's not attractive at all. 128GB space is too little for windows, and no expansion is a deal breaker
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Old 30-04-2016, 03:34 PM   #41
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Must admit, the OLED display is really nice but not that much better than the best quality IPS panels to justify the price hike. It just isn't good value for money for the specs you are getting.

The SP4 is better value, and the Lenovo and Acer are even better yet.

I like the 3:2 ratio, nice compromise for media consumption and productivity. Personally, I feel 12" is a little too large for a tablet but just right for a laptop. I would have preferred 10" but I guess the tech isn't quite there yet to fit Core m chips into that size.

Think I'll wait for the Huawei Matebook as that is even more compact than this and hopefully should be cheaper and has more configurations. Unless the TabPro S becomes available for $300 less.

Street price for Samsung Android phones and tablets always around $200 cheaper than RRP but for some reason their Windows devices are never available from other sources.
The mobile phone shops are focusing on android & iOS devices and not windows. Hence, they may not carry this windows tablet. Also, for the free gifts that come bundled together now, I doubt these mobile phone shops will have it.

I got the 13.3 inch Samsung Notebook 9 from Amazon (all in about $1.5k including shipping & GST)and very happy with it because of its lightweight (840g), nice PLS screen with very good colours & contrast (ie. Samsung's IPS) and a very nice keyboard to type (but battery life is about 6 to 8 hours only).
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The mobile phone shops are focusing on android & iOS devices and not windows. Hence, they may not carry this windows tablet. Also, for the free gifts that come bundled together now, I doubt these mobile phone shops will have it.

I got the 13.3 inch Samsung Notebook 9 from Amazon (all in about $1.5k including shipping & GST)and very happy with it because of its lightweight (840g), nice PLS screen with very good colours & contrast (ie. Samsung's IPS) and a very nice keyboard to type (but battery life is about 6 to 8 hours only).
Read about the Samsung Notebook 9. It's an incredible laptop. Almost perfect and unbelievably light. If I was after a laptop this would be it, no questions. It's a shame they stopped selling the laptops in Singapore.

Personally, I'm after a desktop+tablet replacement 2-in-1 as opposed to a laptop+tablet 2-in-1. I never do any work whilst travelling but need the mobility to take my system with me. When I'm actually travelling I need something good for videos, browsing, reading and emails.
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Old 30-04-2016, 11:20 PM   #43
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Read about the Samsung Notebook 9. It's an incredible laptop. Almost perfect and unbelievably light. If I was after a laptop this would be it, no questions. It's a shame they stopped selling the laptops in Singapore.

Personally, I'm after a desktop+tablet replacement 2-in-1 as opposed to a laptop+tablet 2-in-1. I never do any work whilst travelling but need the mobility to take my system with me. When I'm actually travelling I need something good for videos, browsing, reading and emails.
If I understand you correctly, you mean you don't need to use it on your lap. If that is the case, if you don't mind the thickness, you can also consider the Surface Pro 4.

This Tab Pro S can be used on lap or table and the 60 degree angle take up very small table space but a bit too vertical for good viewing. The 30 degree angle (though not traditional) is still a quite comfortable view but will take up much more space on the table than probably the Surface Pro 4.
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Old 30-04-2016, 11:50 PM   #44
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If I understand you correctly, you mean you don't need to use it on your lap. If that is the case, if you don't mind the thickness, you can also consider the Surface Pro 4.

This Tab Pro S can be used on lap or table and the 60 degree angle take up very small table space but a bit too vertical for good viewing. The 30 degree angle (though not traditional) is still a quite comfortable view but will take up much more space on the table than probably the Surface Pro 4.
Thanks for the info. Yes, you are correct. I don't need an actual laptop.

SP4 seemed to have a lot of issues since it came out but it sounds like a lot of them have been resolved. It's still an option.

What attracted me to the TabPro S is the more compact dimensions and lower weight, as well as the lovely OLED display. Makes for a nicer tablet experience.

Don't need to purchase just yet, can wait another month or two. So hopefully will see if the Huawei Matebook arrives here or any other alternative. TabPro S price may well come down. Maybe some rumours of SP5 will surface
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Thanks for the info. Yes, you are correct. I don't need an actual laptop.

SP4 seemed to have a lot of issues since it came out but it sounds like a lot of them have been resolved. It's still an option.

What attracted me to the TabPro S is the more compact dimensions and lower weight, as well as the lovely OLED display. Makes for a nicer tablet experience.

Don't need to purchase just yet, can wait another month or two. So hopefully will see if the Huawei Matebook arrives here or any other alternative. TabPro S price may well come down. Maybe some rumours of SP5 will surface
Personally, I think from a ergonomic point of view, this Tab Pro S is more suited for leisure and tablet use. Firstly, I can imagine the 60 degree is more for a laid back (leaning back on chair) relaxed view so that you head is lower and your view is more perpendicular to the screen (rather than at sharp angle when you sit up straight). Secondly, the 30 degree is more of a sitting forward view eg. with elbow on table, hand supporting head kind of posture so that you don't get neck-ache. Thirdly, the keyboard height is much shorter than SP4 (allowing you to be closer to the screen), making it much more comfortable to use as a touch screen tablet without your hand/finger reaching too far.

I wonder if Samsung or any third party will come up with a keyboard with eg. 45 degree angle for more serious notebook work. Maybe just one 45 degree angle will do.
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