Question abt ICA Specialist

[cloudnim]

Anyone know if even u got degree still can apply as jo? Since so is harder to get in

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[chocolatetissueprata]

Anyone know if even u got degree still can apply as jo? Since so is harder to get in

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That's what I did. Submitted yesterday, status is In Process today. I know people might think I shouldn't but heck. XD it doesn't mean we will definitely get in too.

 

[cloudnim]

That's what I did. Submitted yesterday, status is In Process today. I know people might think I shouldn't but heck. XD it doesn't mean we will definitely get in too.

Thanks for reply. But did u declare you have a degree in your application? I also dun mind work from bottom to the top that kind but i have a degree now

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[chocolatetissueprata]

Thanks for reply. But did u declare you have a degree in your application? I also dun mind work from bottom to the top that kind but i have a degree now

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Yep. I bet they'd know I have a degree from my previous unsuccessful SO application too.

 

[kaixin18]

what r u doing currently. I got a feeling my unsuccessful reply will come ard mid aug after the 8 weeks consideration period is up.

I am finishing my Kaplan Murdoch degree by end of this year and probably will only have official graduation next year march.The closing date of ICA SO is end dec 2016, do you think i should apply?

I used to be SCDF paramedic assistant during my NS stint.

Hi guys, just to let you all have more information on the timeline, hope this helps!


SO Application

Education: NTU
Date of application: 26 APR 2016
Got an email about a month later, around end May to inform about document submission
Date of first round assessment & document submission: 02 JUN 2016
Got a call and email two or three days earlier to inform about interview
Date of interview: 09 JUN 2016
Date of call received for successful application: 25 JUL 2016

currently waiting for their email

training starts end Aug.

Anyone know if even u got degree still can apply as jo? Since so is harder to get in

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That's what I did. Submitted yesterday, status is In Process today. I know people might think I shouldn't but heck. XD it doesn't mean we will definitely get in too.

Why would you want to sign on with ICA to breathe in exhaust smoke at the checkpoint for so little salary? Do you know that If you work as a security guard you can earn more than an ICA specialist or police sergeant? Please wake up your idea.

 

[chocolatetissueprata]

Why would you want to sign on with ICA to breathe in exhaust smoke at the checkpoint for so little salary? Do you know that If you work as a security guard you can earn more than an ICA specialist or police sergeant? Please wake up your idea.

It's our own choice, and for me, it's not about the money. (Well not too much emphasis on it)

 

[kaixin18]

It's our own choice, and for me, it's not about the money. (Well not too much emphasis on it)

so you want to sit down on a chair at woodlands checkpoint or stand under a canopy in the hot sun and check a thousand vehicles entering Singapore to see if there are drugs, contraband or bombs inside? and you have to breathe in the exhaust smoke and you earn so little and you have almost 0 family time because by the time you reach home you are so tired.

How can you call this a career?

and then you look at your CISCO colleagues who are working OT everyday who are stationed in better posts in the checkpoints who earn higher salary than you and their organisation is not so rigid like yours? but you look down on them cos you are under government but they are semi-government but actually deep down they look down on you cos they earn better salary than you.

How does this benefit you?

You work as a security supervisor at a condominium you can earn $110 daily after CPF and if you work as a security guard you earn $90 after CPF.
$110 x 26 days =$2860
$90 x 26 days = $2340

 

[cloudnim]

so you want to sit down on a chair at woodlands checkpoint or stand under a canopy in the hot sun and check a thousand vehicles entering Singapore to see if there are drugs, contraband or bombs inside? and you have to breathe in the exhaust smoke and you earn so little and you have almost 0 family time because by the time you reach home you are so tired.

How can you call this a career?

and then you look at your CISCO colleagues who are working OT everyday who are stationed in better posts in the checkpoints who earn higher salary than you and their organisation is not so rigid like yours? but you look down on them cos you are under government but they are semi-government but actually deep down they look down on you cos they earn better salary than you.

How does this benefit you?

You work as a security supervisor at a condominium you can earn $110 daily after CPF and if you work as a security guard you earn $90 after CPF.
$110 x 26 days =$2860
$90 x 26 days = $2340

Wa so fierce. U got bad experience sibo? Civil serpent got more AL and medical coverage what. Not all about money.

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[chocolatetissueprata]

so you want to sit down on a chair at woodlands checkpoint or stand under a canopy in the hot sun and check a thousand vehicles entering Singapore to see if there are drugs, contraband or bombs inside? and you have to breathe in the exhaust smoke and you earn so little and you have almost 0 family time because by the time you reach home you are so tired.

How can you call this a career?

and then you look at your CISCO colleagues who are working OT everyday who are stationed in better posts in the checkpoints who earn higher salary than you and their organisation is not so rigid like yours? but you look down on them cos you are under government but they are semi-government but actually deep down they look down on you cos they earn better salary than you.

How does this benefit you?

You work as a security supervisor at a condominium you can earn $110 daily after CPF and if you work as a security guard you earn $90 after CPF.
$110 x 26 days =$2860
$90 x 26 days = $2340

Thanks for the long composition. Don't find the need to explain myself to you, an outsider, though.

 

[lycheehello]

Why would you want to sign on with ICA to breathe in exhaust smoke at the checkpoint for so little salary? Do you know that If you work as a security guard you can earn more than an ICA specialist or police sergeant? Please wake up your idea.

dis is knowledge base forum......we are all here to get help or help others on ns/uniformed group related matters......not for u to take a dump on the aspirations of others.....no matter how illogical it may seem to you.....u can always go to edmw to bash on ICA......respect and peace......

 

[kaixin18]

Wa so fierce. U got bad experience sibo? Civil serpent got more AL and medical coverage what. Not all about money.

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I have friends in CISCO posted at checkpoint. They tell me everything i need to know and more. The turnover rate has to be high for ICA and police. If not why do they keep recruiting?

We need to be frank about these things. Most of our youths who're not from elite backgrounds or did not go to elite schools will jump at these type of jobs for 'civil serpent got more AL and medical coverage' weak argument.

This is a forum to share opinions. You don't have to agree with me and vice versa. But don't belittle me just because I'm saying something contrary to the agreed consensus.

Sitting down on a chair to breathe in exhaust emissions from vehicles entering Singapore everyday is no joke. Standing under a flimsy canopy under the scorching sun everyday to check lorries entering Singapore is no joke too.

Thanks for the long composition. Don't find the need to explain myself to you, an outsider, though.

You have nothing to explain to me cos you know your points are invalid. The better choice would be for you to go and study and upgrade your qualifications and then assess which government jobs are suitable for you.

Ask yourself. Will a scholar sit on a chair at the checkpoint to breath in exhaust emission from vehicles entering Singapore everyday? Obviously not! He will be in an air conditioned office sitting on a comfortable chair and staring into his computer screen.

dis is knowledge base forum......we are all here to get help or help others on ns/uniformed group related matters......not for u to take a dump on the aspirations of others.....no matter how illogical it may seem to you.....u can always go to edmw to bash on ICA......respect and peace......

Don't be silly. We need to be realistic. It has nothing to do with 'taking a dump on the aspirations of others'. We must call it as we see it. As I've said above, why must a Singaporean youth sit at on a chair and breathe in exhaust emission from vehicles entering Singapore?

Answer me this if not don't bother answering at all.

 

[chocolatetissueprata]

I have friends in CISCO posted at checkpoint. They tell me everything i need to know and more. The turnover rate has to be high for ICA and police. If not why do they keep recruiting?

We need to be frank about these things. Most of our youths who're not from elite backgrounds or did not go to elite schools will jump at these type of jobs for 'civil serpent got more AL and medical coverage' weak argument.

This is a forum to share opinions. You don't have to agree with me and vice versa. But don't belittle me just because I'm saying something contrary to the agreed consensus.

Sitting down on a chair to breathe in exhaust emissions from vehicles entering Singapore everyday is no joke. Standing under a flimsy canopy under the scorching sun everyday to check lorries entering Singapore is no joke too.



You have nothing to explain to me cos you know your points are invalid. The better choice would be for you to go and study and upgrade your qualifications and then assess which government jobs are suitable for you.

Ask yourself. Will a scholar sit on a chair at the checkpoint to breath in exhaust emission from vehicles entering Singapore everyday? Obviously not! He will be in an air conditioned office sitting on a comfortable chair and staring into his computer screen.



Don't be silly. We need to be realistic. It has nothing to do with 'taking a dump on the aspirations of others'. We must call it as we see it. As I've said above, why must a Singaporean youth sit at on a chair and breathe in exhaust emission from vehicles entering Singapore?

Answer me this if not don't bother answering at all.

Of course I know my points are invalid. Why would a degree holder wanna join as specialist if he is not desperate? I'm no scholar btw. I know it all too well and didn't wanna argue.

Appreciate your input and passion at this topic though. Will see how it goes.

 

[kaixin18]

Of course I know my points are invalid. Why would a degree holder wanna join as specialist if he is not desperate? I'm no scholar btw. I know it all too well and didn't wanna argue.

Appreciate your input and passion at this topic though. Will see how it goes.

Don't look for an easy way out and sign on because you think it's glamorous to work 'government job'. If you sign on in ICA, its a 12 hours job. They will not give you an immediate posting of chopping people passport in the air con environment. They will definitely post you to sit with your colleagues on a row of plastic chairs in the open area at the checkpoints and you have to breathe in all the vehicle smoke for the whole 10 hours after you minus your meal breaks. If you are a smoker, you won't even have the appetite to smoke a cigarette cos of all the vehicle smoke you have inhaled.

The only way you can improve your life choices is to upgrade your education qualifications. If you need money, go and do your security licence. It's a one week course and it costs $98 but you don't have to pay for it. You can use your credit skills of $500 which our fantastic government gave to everybody.
http://www.ktree.com.sg/
http://www.ntuclearninghub.com.sg/Security

Once you get your licence, you can work as a security guard in the night shift at those relaxed places like warehouse and factories. Your salary is about $80 to $85 after CPF. Since it's so quiet and cooling at night in the air con room, you can do your own reading or studying. Once you have saved enough money, you can go and sign up for a recognized diploma and then go and do your degree.

I could be wrong but I think you only have O levels or Nitec?

(A)
If you use O levels to sign on in ICA, you earn maybe $1700, you must sit on a row of plastic chairs with your colleagues at the checkpoint and have to breathe in the vehicle smoke all day long.

(B)
But if you sign on in ICA with a degree, you earn about close to $3500, sit in an air con office and stare into your computer screen the whole day. So you tell me. Which one is more better? (A) or (B)?

This is Singapore. Earning $1700 monthly before CPF is peanuts. If you're a guy earning this amount, no sane girl will want to be with you cos they know that with this type of salary you can't do much. How are you going to get married, pay for a house, pay for renovations, buy a car, pay the hospital when your wife gives birth?

So help yourself, love yourself and think carefully. Don't throw your youth away and in the process **** your life up.

 

[chocolatetissueprata]

To kaixin18, this will be the last time I'm acknowledging your presence, ok bro? Thanks for your long replies.

To cloudnim, did you apply? Let's keep in touch here.

 

[kaixin18]

To kaixin18, this will be the last time I'm acknowledging your presence, ok bro? Thanks for your long replies.

To cloudnim, did you apply? Let's keep in touch here.

I see. Looks like i'll be seeing u and your colleagues sitting on the row of plastic chairs at the checkpoint breathing in all the smoke from the vehicles entering Singapore.

 

[cloudnim]

To kaixin18, this will be the last time I'm acknowledging your presence, ok bro? Thanks for your long replies.

To cloudnim, did you apply? Let's keep in touch here.

Applied waiting for news too. So far i saw the checkpoint booth is with aircon

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[kaixin18]

Applied waiting for news too. So far i saw the checkpoint booth is with aircon

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you must really be very silly. the checkpoint booths with aircon you are talking about is the one where the ICA officers will chop passport for those who are driving into Singapore by cars.

you will not get to be posted to those aircon booths because you are a new bird. you will be posted to the heavy vehicle section. in that section there is no air conditioned booths. you and your colleagues will sit on a row of plastic red or grey chairs in an open area and wait for buses and lorries to enter singapore.

your job will be to enter the buses and lorries to check for drugs, duty unpaid cigarettes and other things which are not allowed to be brought into singapore. once you finish the check you will then get off the bus or lorry and go back to sit on your red or grey plastic chair. and all this time you will be breathing in all the vehicle smoke from the buses and lorries.

you maybe only have N or O level or basic nitec and you want to choose the easy way out by joining ICA because its a government job but the salary is so low and people resign every year from not just ICA but most uniformed groups. and nobody will tell you the truth about ICA jobscope because if they do that who will join ICA in the first place???

even if your ask your recruitment officer this question they will just say that this is secret issue and cannot be discussed openly. but actually they can tell you but they won't cos if they tell you, you will not sign the contract.

 

[McFadden]

I see. Looks like i'll be seeing u and your colleagues sitting on the row of plastic chairs at the checkpoint breathing in all the smoke from the vehicles entering Singapore.

you in ica before?

 

[CinderFizz]

you maybe only have N or O level or basic nitec and you want to choose the easy way out by joining ICA because its a government job but the salary is so low and people resign every year from not just ICA but most uniformed groups. and nobody will tell you the truth about ICA jobscope because if they do that who will join ICA in the first place???

What about those with honors degree? An information on the jobscope? I understand that SO only requires a general degree, and my degree is in Computer Science.

Thanks.

 

[kaixin18]

you in ica before?

did you not read my previous post from one or two pages ago? you are exactly the type ICA wants. blur blur, like to ask repetitive questions and head inside maybe got half a brain. cos people with your DNA are bound to work and stay in ICA until you are 60 years old.

i have friends from CISCO who are posted to checkpoint. they tell me what i need to know.

What about those with honors degree? An information on the jobscope? I understand that SO only requires a general degree, and my degree is in Computer Science.

Thanks.

from what i know it really depends on luck, how many officers have left ICA in recent months and where can ICA slot you in. but i do know that if you join ICA or any uniform group as an officer with an entry degree then your life is easy.

the silly ones are those who join ICA with N, O level and basic Nitec. The salary is so low. How can you survive with $1500 before CPF in Singapore?