i finally got the 65X85D..delivered in 2 days, $4200 all in from BD , used a foldable arm wall mount, and got FOC not so good rapoo wireless keyboard, but squeeze a Sony touch remote from the sales person because he told me inside box got but when delivered, don't have.. Yes, the blacks look a bit grey when all lights off at night, the sound was so tiny without bass that i had to buy add on sound bar ht-790ct at $729, but the pic quality when watching android app 4k video on youtube was mindblowing ..overall the android was well integrated and smooth i feel...happy with purchase , hope it last close to 10yrs, i upgraded from xseries 40 inch from 9yrs ago(still working very well, gave to friend)