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Old 06-03-2017, 09:40 PM   #6083
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just to check, kyoto gets dark earlier right? around 5pm?
how about osaka/tokyo?

These prefectures are similar.

Depending which month you going, Nov/Dec can be 4:30pm to begin sunset.

because i've booked 3 days hotel for osaka, will be allocating 2 day trips to kyoto. i heard the fastest is via shinkasen? 15mins with ard $15/pax? correct?
first train to kyoto is 6am?

Really need to reach Kyoto as early as possible? Can just take local line or rapid line to save some money.

You staying at Shin-Osaka station area?
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