The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

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Hi bro, probably a 1.67 index lenses with blue filter lenses. But since your astig is above -2.00. You are probably looking either at an extended cylinder/astig lenses or else a customised lens(rx). Which would cost more.
1.67 is so your lenses won't be too thick/heavy
Blue filter lenses to reduce the glare from screen.

Any recommendations of lens for someone with myopia of ~6xx, Astigma ~2xx and faces screen(hp, pc) very often?

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Hi bro, probably a 1.67 index lenses with blue filter lenses. But since your astig is above -2.00. You are probably looking either at an extended cylinder/astig lenses or else a customised lens(rx). Which would cost more.
1.67 is so your lenses won't be too thick/heavy
Blue filter lenses to reduce the glare from screen.
Thanks for the info! :) Any idea about the cost of the lens roughly?

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Hi GANGSTERKIA,

What recommendations of lens for person with myopia of ~3xx, Astigma ~2xx, currently using transition, with progressive len. What would be the cost like?
What is your thought about "MATRIX PROGRESSIVE" len, a local brand?
The quotation I got was slightly less then 400

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Morning bro, I shall start off with the Matrix brand progressive lens.
Yes it is a local lens brand, price of the lens is pretty affordable. Lens reading area depending on your expectation is imho a tad bit small.
There are many lesser known brands in the market e.g. stellify comfy, ao easy/synchrony, asahi etc etc. But i feel that if you/i am going to wear something on to help myself see clearer at work or other area, i would want to wear something more comfortable.

Thus which gets me to the second point, I believe Progressive lenses which a user ftpo mention in the past has this trueform/freeform design technology. It gives the user sharper vision at distance, also wider reading area at the lower area of the lenses. Lenses e.g. hoya trueform premium/ID lifestyle/ID, Essilor Physio, S design, Zeiss superb asiana, precision superb, individual 2, Shamir autograph 1/2/3. These that you see me mentioned are the brands that you should probably hear quite often spoken by optometrist/opticians/sales personnel. Those designs that i mentioned are among the better ones. Cost of these lenses will be around 500-1k(before less) and adding of the transition.

I understand many people and new cx will ask me. Why so expensive? i go blahblah places can get so cheap! High index somemore. But i can safely say, once you compare blahblah brand and those that was recommend, you will see the difference. And of course once convince and they try, they will understand.(100% true so far lol). To be fair there are other lens brands i have not mentioned, but thats because of the success i had with these brands so far that i know easily it should work for most consumers.

Back to your degree, its pretty low and the progressive lenses limit will be able to cover for your astigmatism even, So the index you are looking at is probably 1.5/1.53/1.6. The highest being the thinnest, 1.67 or 1.74 is a nono(too overkill) and your power might not fit the range given.(save more money too.) Unless you are choosing a Half frame or else 1.5 index is suitable for you. Half frame then you require a higher index(impact resistance lenses e.g. 1.53(trivex) / airwear(polycarbonate) or 1.6 and above.(price will increase too)

I would say with transition and all, you are looking at probably 750-1000 depending on which lens you choose. BUT, it be worth it to get a more reputable brand with a better lens design. Correct me if i'm wrong guys! But it's what i encounter so far so just sharing my thoughts.

Hi GANGSTERKIA,

What recommendations of lens for person with myopia of ~3xx, Astigma ~2xx, currently using transition, with progressive len. What would be the cost like?
What is your thought about "MATRIX PROGRESSIVE" len, a local brand?
The quotation I got was slightly less then 400

Thank you in advance
 
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High Astig Prescription

Hi optical experts!

Any advice for a good optician to get high astig corrected well?

- right: -3.25 CYL, 100 AXIS
- left: -3.75 CYL, 85 AXIS
- both: -1 to -1.5 SPH

I have tried a few opticians but it has been challenging to get the prescription just right. A very obvious test for me is to hold a smartphone or tablet at arm's length and it will be out-of-shape and not properly or evenly rectangular.

It causes a lot of depth and angular issues, like when looking down at a table or floor and seeing that it is tilted instead of being level/straight. This is driving me crazy.

Could it be because of the optician's skill level? Or because the machine works better only for the common population? Using the traditional method of shining a light would be better? Really have no idea.

Tried going to an eye specialist but the optician said the specialist's prescription cannot be used because the measurements were made under clinical conditions (pupils were dilated, etc.), so back to the optician's way to prescribe.
 

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Good evening bro,

may i know if you have any current pair of glasses?
And if you do, how long have you been wearing them?

From my experience so far, individuals with high astigmatism tend to have issues adapting to their new glasses should their degree increases, and that will lead to what you are experiencing which is tilted screens(monitor) or wavy/distorted visions. Usually reducing the power or getting used to the new power is the option. But of course there might be a chance that the power was measured wrongly(but for the benefit of the doubt), we will put that as the last option.

AFAIK, under cyclopegic/dilation refraction situations, the degree will not vary too much. Just need to refine the prescription usually again from my experience. It surely can be used, if cnt be used then no point seeing the doctor right? On the prescription given by the optoms from the clinic/specialist usually they put/tick the box PLEASE refine the following prescription or else is FOLLOW the prescription.

Hi optical experts!

Any advice for a good optician to get high astig corrected well?

- right: -3.25 CYL, 100 AXIS
- left: -3.75 CYL, 85 AXIS
- both: -1 to -1.5 SPH

I have tried a few opticians but it has been challenging to get the prescription just right. A very obvious test for me is to hold a smartphone or tablet at arm's length and it will be out-of-shape and not properly or evenly rectangular.

It causes a lot of depth and angular issues, like when looking down at a table or floor and seeing that it is tilted instead of being level/straight. This is driving me crazy.

Could it be because of the optician's skill level? Or because the machine works better only for the common population? Using the traditional method of shining a light would be better? Really have no idea.

Tried going to an eye specialist but the optician said the specialist's prescription cannot be used because the measurements were made under clinical conditions (pupils were dilated, etc.), so back to the optician's way to prescribe.
 
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Hi Gangsterkia, I would like to give a big thank you to you for helping to answer my (very, very noob) questions! :o:s22: You are very knowledgeable and helpful! :)

I am under 30 so by your explanation, guess I do no need progressive lens. haha. =:p

I recently went to do an eye checkup to order contact lens, and the optometrist told me my current spectacles (14 years already hahaha) is over-powered! and it is not good for my eyes. To be honest my current pair is not comfy judging by the years of usage, the coating is off hence the lens are blur due to scratches. Hence, I want to get a new pair.

Yesterday, I happily bought a pair of spectacles frame at Orchard ION. It weights 9g. The dimension reads: 52-18-140-138 (I do not know how to tell from the numbers, but I finally found something I like!) :s12:

The blue light lens they offer are:

Hoya Stellify:
1.55 = $150
1.60 = $210

Zeiss DuraVision:
1.56 = $215
1.60 = $295
1.67 = $375

I didn't agree to do the lens with them but only purchased the frame.

I intend to do the lens in neighbourhood shop, and was quoted the following:

Crizal Prevencia:
1.56 = $170
(not sure what this number is) = $210
1.60 = $230
1.67 = $300

Crizal Eye Zen (they told me this is the latest one, price difference compared to Crizal Prevencia is only $50)
1.56 = $220
(not sure what this number is) = $260
1.60 = $280
1.67 = $350
1.74 = $500

Hoya (not sure which model) (but big price difference than Hoya Stellify as above at ION Orchard)
1.60 = $460
1.67 = $610


My contact lens degree reads:
Right is D = 4.25, CYL = 0.75, Axis = 180
Left is D = 5.25, CYL = 0.75, Axis = 010
I have astigmatism.

Q1) Based on the spectacles frame size above, and my eyes degree, I intend to take Crizal Eye Zen, 1.67 at $350, do you think you can tell if the lens will come out as bulky?

Q2) What would you say about Crizal Eye Zen? (Hoya is sooooo expensive, although I feel like using this brand... trust the Japanese lol, but do not wish to spend over $350 for the lens because what if I need to change spectacles in a few years again)

Q3) As I also do graphic design works (stare at computer a lot), I understand objects will become yellowish color when I see with blue light coating lens. Wonder if people or your customers have express their concerns with colors after wearing it and what would you say or advise to them? Neighbourhood optometrist actually told me to think about it



Hi, Good afternoon.
Is your current pair still clear and comfortable for you? In terms of far/near?

For blue light lenses, as you know by now, it helps to reduce the amount of blue light entering your eyes. Most lens brands now come with them, Hoya-Bluecontrol, Essilor-prevencia, Zeiss-Blue protect. EnergizeMe is a type of antifatigue lens from Zeiss. Antifatigue lenses are made in such a way that is similar to a progressive lens BUT, the power at the bottom is meant to help to relax your eyes.
Normal progressive lenses lower segment is to help you for reading purposes and computer thus the reading power can be from +1.00 all the way to +3.00. Take note reading power and distance power is not the same! I can explain more about it if you all are more interested.

To your Questions:
Number 1- In the past, Zeiss was usually the Go To Brand but of course at a higher price, but recently they have repriced themselves thus the prices are more competitive with the other brands. IMHO, i feel that hoya has now reached the similar standards and thus are fine between both of them. The hoya lenses that is quoted to you is called stellify, for 1.67 STOCK lens level, you cannot make blue control with it as blue control for stock lenses only goes til 1.60 index. If you want 1.67 lenses with blue control then you have to pay slightly more to customize the lenses.

Number 2- Depending on your AGE group and your lifestyle, progressive may/may not benefit you. Usually when you are above 40++ then you will need to use progressive. Digital lenses are very similar to anti fatigue lenses, differences is between the extra power at the bottom used to relax your eyes. Digital lenses has a higher power reduction choice as compared to Anti-Fatigue. Transition lenses(lenses that turn dark when UV light comes into contact with the lens)... If you go outdoors alot then it is good for you to choose so it can help to reduce the glare when you are outdoors. If you are thinking of using it when you drive then dont bother as our car windscreen already has UV protection thus the lenses will not turn dark as no UV is passing through. Thus the main thing is, i need to know your lifestyle, age and also any particular difficulties you have with your vision right now to decide what kind of lenses is better for you!

Number 3- Crizal is a coating of the lens from Essilor. They are a well known lens company so dont worry! 300 for 1.67 i assume is together with Prevencia(blue light coating). All those prices that were quoted to you earlier on is the RRP Thus, there should be discount added in later on.

Number 4- Not to worry. You can find a frame that you like in shop A and make lenses in B as all lenses comes in a ''round shape mould'' that has room for edging(cutting).
What i mean is that it comes in maybe a BIG size lens then the edger will size it down. Shouldnt be an issue, if you want the lenses to be thinner, you can request the lens to be done in minimal edge thickness(METS) BUT only if you are Hyperopic(+power) and not like majority of us who are myopic(-power). Earlier on i mentioned before, The important thing to take note of when choosing a frame to ensure that lenses are not too thick ,would be the frame size. The bigger/longer the frame, the thicker the lenses will be. Then of course choosing a higher index lens 1.67 would reduce the thickness considerable!

Should you still have any questions regarding the lenses, feel free to ask here or pm!
 
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Hey Audrey,

Regarding the crizal lenses that you are not sure what was it, i believe it's the airwear series, which is the polycarbonate material for the lenses.
Meant for individuals doing sports e.g. ball games and all, as the lenses are more impact resistance. However the clarity of the lenses though are not as sharp as the other indexes.

So what are these index 1.5,1.53,1.6,1.67,1.74?
In layman terms, its the thickness of the lenses. The higher the value, the thinner the lenses. Thats why individuals with higher degree are often recommended to use higher index lenses. But that does not mean someone with -1.00 degree can use a 1.67 lens, as certain index of lenses have a minimum degree to start off with e.g. 1.67 iirc starts at -3.00 unless you specially customized the lens which would cost more!!

Eyezen is basically an antifatigue lenses whereby the power at the lower half of your lenses is reduced by about +0.8 degree. E.g. your degree is -4.25, the lowest part of your lenses the power will be around -3.40 to -3.50. The reduction is believe to help your eyes relax when doing near work e.g. document reading/computer. Other brands anti fatigue lenses that i know of is Zeiss(energize me Or Zeiss digital lens), Hoya(trueform nulux active(what i am using now)(i'm also below 30:p) , Shamir(shamir relax). It comes with a blue filter coating, or in other brands e.g. blue control, blue protect, blue glacier zero.

Hoya lenses that you werent sure why was the price suddenly higher is because of the coating. Hoya stellify is using the HVP coating which is an older version whereas the new one that you saw is using the HVLL coating which is more resistant in many aspects e.g. dirts, scratches and all compared to HVP(stellify).

So regarding your Qns...

52= the size of your lens (length)
18=bridge(Distance between your lenses)
140= Your temple length, the long part which holds the spectacle from the hinge to your eye.
130=probably the colour code/model code of your frame.


Q1) Based on the spectacles frame size above, and my eyes degree, I intend to take Crizal Eye Zen, 1.67 at $350, do you think you can tell if the lens will come out as bulky?

ANS: A 52size lens when edged out might be alittle thick at the side But coupled with a 1.67 index lenses, it should look fine honestly so i believe it will not be too thick as long as the edger(one cutting your lenses) knows how to guide the edging(cutting proccess) of your leneses. Dont worry! But just curious, is your frame very thin? If it is thin then you will surely see some lens thickness protruding for sure. (Frame thin meaning , the frame front)

Q2) What would you say about Crizal Eye Zen? (Hoya is sooooo expensive, although I feel like using this brand... trust the Japanese lol, but do not wish to spend over $350 for the lens because what if I need to change spectacles in a few years again)

ANS: For hoya, their version of Crizal eye zen is the trueform nulux active or also known as hoya REMARK(last time), for zeiss it would be their Energize me lenses. Hoya is surely more expensive due to their coating quality(imo) and also their clarity. I am using a Hoya(anti fatigue lens) too. If you do not wish to spend that much then Eyezen would be able to serve you well!

Q3) As I also do graphic design works (stare at computer a lot), I understand objects will become yellowish color when I see with blue light coating lens. Wonder if people or your customers have express their concerns with colors after wearing it and what would you say or advise to them? Neighbourhood optometrist actually told me to think about it[/QUOTE]

ANS: Ah.. the comment dilemma, yellowish or not. Depending on your own individual preferences, many designers(interior/graphics) opt not to do get the blue filter lenses as they feel their colour perception is being changed. Some still do though...But good news for you is that, you can actually request for the Lenses be ordered without the blue filter coat. But IIRC, essilor eyezen recently cannot be ordered this way. My Hoya trueform nulux active comes without the blue filter and i have order for customers, zeiss digital lenses and energize me without blue filter too. So your worries can be resolved!

So hope these informations helped, and please correct me if i'm wrong guys!
Thanks!
 

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Is Hoya good?

First time hear this brand

Now got package


Last time I always take crizal or essilor one
 
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Hi gurus, my current pair of spectacles are about 4 years old and some spots are appearing which cannot be wiped away. I think the coating must be wearing off. How long do the coating usually last for? I only wash my specs with tap water and wipe them with the microfiber cloth provided.

I am now looking for a new pair of specs. My current lenses are from Crizal and I would like to change brands to see if there's a difference. With a budget of $500 would it be possible to get something like Zeiss? I don't wear contact lenses and do office work. Would the digital lenses be more suitable for me? For the frame I am looking at something like Alexander from Mykita but it is out of budget for me. Would there be cheaper brands with a similar look?

Prescription from 4 years ago is <-5.00 SPH , CYL -1.00 and AXIS at 160 for both eyes.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Went to kwong shin ytd. saw chen liping and her hubby there.The optician attending to me told me they are regular customers. got other local celebrities always go there too. :O
 

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Went to kwong shin ytd. saw chen liping and her hubby there.The optician attending to me told me they are regular customers. got other local celebrities always go there too. :O

Wah sure or not so high profile? Or sg dont have many good old optical shops already?
 

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Just made a new specs after 5 years with crizal uv 1.74 lens cost $530

Degree 950/800
Astig 200/150

Is it overprice or consider ok? Not really sure Since I haven't change a specs close to 5 years..
 
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