AMD Ryzen NB Discussion| Lenovo Thinkpad E495/E595/T495/X395 Well-rounder performance CPU + GPU

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Can what

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Oh now can already. Just now tried at 8am it says no models available.

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vega 8 < mx150 right? seems like 10-20% difference

sure it's 1.75kg in 15.6"? hard to beat this weight/screen ratio

Yes but take note for lappy with Mx150.
On default is Intel HD, geforce only kick in during game and etc.
AMD wise one chip and on default is Vega 11 so no switching.
 

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I have a slight concern on the heat dissipation issue with AMD processor too. I am looking at the 14" one. I wonder why the 256GB SSD which should hold the Win 10 OS is installed as 2nd drive while the 1st drive is left empty. Isn't the system drive is always installed as 1st drive? Anyone here can enlighten me?

I went AddOn at Bugis Junction this afternoon, trying to take a look at the actual notebook. But I was told it is only available online.
 

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any known heat issues with ryzen 5?

Not bashing Intel.
Try using a Intel H 6 core with 1050 graphic lappy.
That lappy is have is really hot.
Ryzen 5 is 15watt APU so unlikely to have hot issues since it is low wattage.
U can read review on laptop based on it, they did not mention about overheating.
 

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I am more concern with the battery life. It's 45w only so does it last at least 5 hours ?
Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)

Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64

Display Type
15.6" HD 1366x768 TN AntiGlare

Memory
8GB DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM

Graphics
AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics

Hard Drive
None

Warranty
1 Year Depot or Carry-in(Local + International)

Pointing Device
NO Fingerprint Reader, Black Cover

Second Hard Drive
256GB Solid State Drive PCIe OPAL2.0 M.2 2280 (16GT/s)

Battery
3 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 45WH

Wireless
QCA QCNFA435AC with Bluetooth Version 4.1

Take note:
Panel best to go for Full HD
RAM if possible go for Dual Channel not single
HDD wise up to you but try not to get only HDD.
Windows 10 can run really slow on HDD.
 

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seems like HP might bring in AMD specs as well.
 
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I have a slight concern on the heat dissipation issue with AMD processor too. I am looking at the 14" one. I wonder why the 256GB SSD which should hold the Win 10 OS is installed as 2nd drive while the 1st drive is left empty. Isn't the system drive is always installed as 1st drive? Anyone here can enlighten me?

I went AddOn at Bugis Junction this afternoon, trying to take a look at the actual notebook. But I was told it is only available online.

Heat problem or not, we will only know if we try it. This is running a 15W processor which I feel should not be a big concern with the thick chassis on this ThinkPad.
I think it is just a perception that if it is AMD, it will run hot. To give you a little comparison, my Lenovo Miix 720 with a i5 7200U could hit over 80 degs under load.
 

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Heat problem or not, we will only know if we try it. This is running a 15W processor which I feel should not be a big concern with the thick chassis on this ThinkPad.
I think it is just a perception that if it is AMD, it will run hot. To give you a little comparison, my Lenovo Miix 720 with a i5 7200U could hit over 80 degs under load.

Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.
 

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Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.

For those who assume AMD is hot.
Do not based on the preception of Ideapad 720s as that one
is Lenovo lazy design.
As they recycle the design from Intel version and think it
will work but it failed.
 

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I have a slight concern on the heat dissipation issue with AMD processor too. I am looking at the 14" one. I wonder why the 256GB SSD which should hold the Win 10 OS is installed as 2nd drive while the 1st drive is left empty. Isn't the system drive is always installed as 1st drive? Anyone here can enlighten me?

I went AddOn at Bugis Junction this afternoon, trying to take a look at the actual notebook. But I was told it is only available online.

You can read the previous gen Thinkpad A275 based on AMD Bristol Ridge.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...256GB-Laptop-Review.274232.0.html#toc-verdict

No mention about overheating except slow system performance.
The 2500U is 15Watt TDP so unlikely to overheat.
Unless processor like Intel H series 6 core rated at 45watt TDP,
the temp under load can go as high as 80 degrees.

If we are talking about processor with 45W TDP than perhaps but
it is 15Watt TDP.
Anyway for those who think AMD is slow and hot don't get it.

Not citing AMD still have the issue if you are not comfortable
or confidential in AMD laptop than just get Intel.
Most Intel laptop comes with Intel UHD and optional graphics
like Geforce/Radeon which means more $.

AMD Ryzen based laptop is one chip with decent CPU and Vega graphics.
On default for AMD laptop will be Vega while Intel is the crappy UHD.
That is why most laptop for Intel usually comes with discrete graphic
as Intel UHD is CMI.

Intel UHD have to be enabled to save power especially on battery.
 

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You can read the previous gen Thinkpad A275 based on AMD Bristol Ridge.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...256GB-Laptop-Review.274232.0.html#toc-verdict

No mention about overheating except slow system performance.
The 2500U is 15Watt TDP so unlikely to overheat.
Unless processor like Intel H series 6 core rated at 45watt TDP,
the temp under load can go as high as 80 degrees.

If we are talking about processor with 45W TDP than perhaps but
it is 15Watt TDP.
Anyway for those who think AMD is slow and hot don't get it.

Not citing AMD still have the issue if you are not comfortable
or confidential in AMD laptop than just get Intel.
Most Intel laptop comes with Intel UHD and optional graphics
like Geforce/Radeon which means more $.

AMD Ryzen based laptop is one chip with decent CPU and Vega graphics.
On default for AMD laptop will be Vega while Intel is the crappy UHD.
That is why most laptop for Intel usually comes with discrete graphic
as Intel UHD is CMI.

Intel UHD have to be enabled to save power especially on battery.

Just ordered one @ $815.03 this morning for my daughter as her Acer Aspire 5 is getting old and we would not want to have sudden failure in notebook interrupting her course work. Chosen 2x4GB ram, 65W charger and Win10 Home since her don't play games and her course work has no video editing, should not be too taxing on memory and processing power. Just hope everything goes well.
 

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Review on Ideapad 720S which is also fitted with Ryzen 5 2500U indicate inadequate cooling leading to throttling of processor under heavy load. Let's hope Lenovo has learnt the lesson and made necessary improvement on these new models.

I've not seen the chassis used by the ThinkPad, but realistically, any thin profile laptops tend to suffer from throttling. It is just a matter of how much it gets throttled. The same applies to Intel's 15W processors too. Case in point, my Lenovo Miix 720.

Even assuming that thermals is not the issue, 15W processors will still throttle because of the low power limit. This is especially the case when you are gaming because both the CPU and GPU are under load.
 

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Just ordered one @ $815.03 this morning for my daughter as her Acer Aspire 5 is getting old and we would not want to have sudden failure in notebook interrupting her course work. Chosen 2x4GB ram, 65W charger and Win10 Home since her don't play games and her course work has no video editing, should not be too taxing on memory and processing power. Just hope everything goes well.

One thing do take note is after you got the unit.
Do a fresh install of the OS than load all the driver properly.
Out of the box OS usually are slow and bloated with junks.
 

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One thing do take note is after you got the unit.
Do a fresh install of the OS than load all the driver properly.
Out of the box OS usually are slow and bloated with junks.

I don't do this. For me, I will just go in an remove all the bloatware that I don't use and run a registry cleaner, e.g. CCleaner. Even Win 10 itself will install rubbish like Candy Crush and a bunch of other games.

Nowadays with SSDs, slowness due to too many apps is not that apparent as those mechanical drive days where I will always format my PC/ laptops annually to spur it back to a "speedy" state.
 
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