Singaporeans get government they deserve. I don't want to hear anymore complains.

zeebrugge

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Yah... Sinkies complain about high housing price, CPF policies, but still vote for PAP... Omg

People's Action Party is centre right, it is only natural that most human beings in Singapore vote PAP. If you count the number of people who are right handlers, usually people either have no fixed preferred hand, or they choose to write with their right hand. This being the case, whether consciously or subconsciously ballots can get cast in favour of PAP.

This differs from the Malaysian Democratatic Action Party which is basically a hybrid form of Singapore government founded by Devan Nair. The DAP is centre left. Usually there can be such a major swing from a far right government till centre left because of too much evil in the ruling party. I would imagine Malaysia divided into two by now, like East and West Germany, North and South Korea. Pahang and East Malaysia on one side, West Malaysia on another side. Even after they won the elections, UMNO the right wing conceded defeat in favour of a centre right Dr Mahathir. The conflict between PPBM and its allies Keadilan and DAP is actually more complicated than before.

In Singapore's case, it is less than likely that such a anarchism happen because the ruling party stays centre and tilting right e.g. USA-ish.

One of the crucial reasons why PAP can last is because in times of challenges they have a known succession system. :)

In Malaysia this was how everything did not work out, because Mahathir clung on and he did not understand how his cling-y influence affected Anwar, Badawi and Najib.

Nearly 30 years have passed and Anwar still is not allowed by Mahathir inheriting the prime minister role, all because Mahathir refuses taking a back seat when LKY had the wisdom of.
 

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People's Action Party is centre right, it is only natural that most human beings in Singapore vote PAP. If you count the number of people who are right handlers, usually people either have no fixed preferred hand, or they choose to write with their right hand. This being the case, whether consciously or subconsciously ballots can get cast in favour of PAP.

This differs from the Malaysian Democratatic Action Party which is basically a hybrid form of Singapore government founded by Devan Nair. The DAP is centre left. Usually there can be such a major swing from a far right government till centre left because of too much evil in the ruling party. I would imagine Malaysia divided into two by now, like East and West Germany, North and South Korea. Pahang and East Malaysia on one side, West Malaysia on another side. Even after they won the elections, UMNO the right wing conceded defeat in favour of a centre right Dr Mahathir. The conflict between PPBM and its allies Keadilan and DAP is actually more complicated than before.

In Singapore's case, it is less than likely that such a anarchism happen because the ruling party stays centre and tilting right e.g. USA-ish.

One of the crucial reasons why PAP can last is because in times of challenges they have a known succession system. :)

In Malaysia this was how everything did not work out, because Mahathir clung on and he did not understand how his cling-y influence affected Anwar, Badawi and Najib.

Nearly 30 years have passed and Anwar still is not allowed by Mahathir inheriting the prime minister role, all because Mahathir refuses taking a back seat when LKY had the wisdom of.

Do u know the next successor to lhl? Isit CCS?
 

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Do u know the next successor to lhl? Isit CCS?

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Screenshot source: https://mothership.sg/2018/09/nas-daily-pm-lee-hsien-loong/


Me suspects LKY probably left word before he died that CCS, his blue eye boy, always cared for LKY publicly during NDP etc when LKY was old and frail should be the PM.

Won't be surprised if LKY's choice of blue eye boy would be as disastrous as the Lee family feud over 38oxyley road after death of LKY but 38 OR is a good guide and this time, the repercussions would be on a much greater scale.
 
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I'd vote for anything except this british accent yellow fag. I dont support pap but this guy is really worse
 

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Since its what sinkies voted for, PAP represents the will of the people. Its democracy, its not perfect, but it is what it is.
It's not democracy, and nothing is perfect, but one should be conscious and deliberate about achieving proportional representation and replacing first-past-the-post. Oh yes, GRC system also Uniquely Singapore...

If multiracialism is a must-have in Parliament, a proportional representation system can ensure that the important percentages are built-in when inviting parties to submit their candidates for representation. The GRC system is superfluous and a non-solution.
 

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I'd vote for anything except this british accent yellow fag. I dont support pap but this guy is really worse
I'd vote favourably the moment some conditions are met, non-exhaustive.

1) Electoral Commission is independent, with half the members the respective Sec-Gens of all registered political parties. I don't know how to ensure non-partisanship for sure though, so I'll let others make more suggestions.

Rationale for independence: no leeway for gerrymandering by using Singstats, no leeway for setting election timing based on "insider info" and pre-planned propaganda strategies.


2) Members of registered political parties are immune to lawsuits of libel/slander/calumny OUTSIDE of election campaigning period. How to discourage that... feel free to make suggestions. How to define that.... also feel free to say.



I don't want to touch on laws regarding illegal gatherings and such, because the big picture is on public safety, no disruption to economy blah blah... again, feel free to discuss how else to protect public society while not chilling the political scene with implied threats.
 

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Voting Lol

First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The **** they shovel around every 4-5 years doesn't mean a **** thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote white, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into parliament who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote them am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.”
 

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I beg to differ. Imo representation shld be proportionate to %won not winner takes all...

Oppo win 30% get 30% seats etc.

System is broken not democracy

Yalor. I think that's much better. proportionate of the seats.
Singapore is too small statistically to be broken into GRCs. There are science to such grouping mechanism to resist flipping.
 
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